How To Test Motorcycle, ATV, & UTV Starters

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  • @brucelee9243
    @brucelee9243 6 років тому +8

    My motorcycle stopped turning over one day. I tested the starter solenoid and the pulse generator coil. They were okay, so I took out the starter and tested it exactly as shown in this video. It sparked a ton and there was no movement. I'll be replacing (rebuilding if possible) the starter & my bike should be back on the road.
    Thank you for the helpful video!

    • @Silverserpent141
      @Silverserpent141 Рік тому

      That's exactly what just happened to me. Did your bike start up after a new starter?

    • @waynedavis9951
      @waynedavis9951 Рік тому

      ​@alexus335i7 any luck with yours?

  • @brianspencer9806
    @brianspencer9806 4 роки тому +28

    Just because a starter turns does NOT mean it is still good. The real question is how much torque will it produce and to test that you need a dial type torque wrench a vice and most difficult to obtain, the max torque spec for your starter. Then connect the shaft to the torque wrench and clamp the starter in the vice and bump the starter with a 12 volt car battery and see what the reading is. They may spin but still won't turn the engine over for several reasons.

    • @thefishingreel1449
      @thefishingreel1449 2 роки тому

      Hi Brian
      That is such a good replie. I have the same problem. Srarter spins but I can stop it within a second with a gloved hand. Is that normal for a 1200cc MC starter motor.

    • @integr8er66
      @integr8er66 2 роки тому +1

      @@thefishingreel1449 That might still be ok since the starter has a very small gear and the driven gear is larger thus you get mechanical advantage, but I can't say for sure. I did lean a lot more when researching for my problem and I found my arctic cat has an internal automatic compression release, and if the intake valve lifter clearance is any more than 3 thousands it won't open the valve the little bit required to relieve the compression on startup and even with a new starter, solenoid, and a car battery it would not turn over. adjust the intake valve to .003 and boom, fixed it.

    • @russellcool5276
      @russellcool5276 Рік тому

      Russell 79TuLlpLN

    • @boum
      @boum Рік тому +1

      Finally the comment I was looking for, agreed that just checking the starter spins with no load isn't representative of real-world conditions. Thanks Brian.

    • @Nikosakii
      @Nikosakii Рік тому

      What’s your alternative then

  • @markcregger4433
    @markcregger4433 6 років тому +6

    Can you do that with it connected or do you have to removeit from machine ?

    • @AndrewMan1445
      @AndrewMan1445 4 роки тому

      Need to remove it from the machine, to make sure that you can eliminate JUST the starter being bad.

  • @razvancristiano
    @razvancristiano 6 місяців тому

    Hello! My starter is turning when tested on the table, but not mounted in the ATV.The current consumption is over 20Amp on the table and 28Amps the stall current.

  • @jims7813
    @jims7813 8 місяців тому

    In my application, there is an intermediate gear which then drives the Flywheel? on the engine. This intermediate gear only transmits power in one direction. In the other direction , it just free wheels (maybe using pawls or a"clutch"). I can hear the motor running, but no engine rotation. So can the starter motor be running in reverse and just spinning the intermediate gear?? Because, if in the correct direction, the flywheel/crankshaft would be turning. A bench test of the motor shows it running freely. I don't know any torque figures.

  • @steventhorkelsen6478
    @steventhorkelsen6478 3 місяці тому

    2015 Kawasaki Mule 600
    When trying to to start it just clunks .
    Any info on how to fix would be great

  • @billbrown5813
    @billbrown5813 5 років тому +9

    Hahaha,,, I know you are being serious here, but I find this funny.
    touch the post with hot,
    if it spins,,,,, starter good
    if it don't spin, starter bad
    Makes for a good video, but not always the case.
    You can have a different results, for example
    if starter is under a load or
    starter hot vs cold
    I have seen cases in the above where a starter appears to be good, but was actually bad.
    Don't get me wrong here,,, I love you guys, keep it up.

    • @kusayhameid1987
      @kusayhameid1987 4 роки тому +2

      Bill Brown i agree. Same thing happened to me. Tested my motor and got it cranking but thats easy when its not under a load. So it wasnt able to spin while being installed on the bike. So it was bad

    • @billbrown5813
      @billbrown5813 4 роки тому

      @@kusayhameid1987 This was a lesson I learn the hard way. You never forget those lessons. Good Luck on your bike.

  • @BeardedOmen
    @BeardedOmen Рік тому

    Is there a way test for the amount of torque that is being given off? 92 HD Sport Glide and I'm thinking it's going bad and that's why it can't get the engine to turn over.
    Like the torque that's being put out isn't enough to engage the clutch.

  • @dineshkumarnkdinesh1197
    @dineshkumarnkdinesh1197 4 роки тому +1

    Sir i have same starter you used and i connect terminals you have connected like that but it create sparks at battery and also motor

  • @victorreyes8852
    @victorreyes8852 3 роки тому

    Need to know the starter for a Raptor 1700 is located on the scooter?

  • @CbrF4i600cc
    @CbrF4i600cc Рік тому

    Can the starter break and cause grinding sound on the inside? I hear grinding noise and can't shift gears.. I thought the grinding was coming from differential but maybe it's the starter?

  • @ronenronen9411
    @ronenronen9411 2 роки тому

    Hello . I connected the starter relay to the battery and it starts and stops
    It means not good.
    But when it is connected to the motorcycle and tries to start it spins. Thanks for the help

  • @xzouix
    @xzouix 2 роки тому

    This is supercool and very helpful!! Thank you for putting out these short video tutorials.

  • @dyt7899
    @dyt7899 3 роки тому +2

    cleaned my starter and resembled it, now it turns in wrong direction, how do i revert the polarity to run correct rotation?

    • @bourridh
      @bourridh 3 роки тому

      hi , i got the same problem how did you solve it?

  • @Herco28
    @Herco28 2 роки тому +3

    Work flow should be negative to starter body then negative to battery. Positive to battery then positive to starter motor. Otherwise you might the sparks before you have time to put on the safety glasses 😁. Thank for the vid. You guys make great and very helpful content.
    👍🇿🇦👍

  • @thecam280show2
    @thecam280show2 3 роки тому

    just wondering if there should be continuity from the positive terminal to the negative?

  • @ratneshchandel
    @ratneshchandel 3 роки тому +1

    what is the ampere rating of motor

  • @kidambikrishnan5027
    @kidambikrishnan5027 3 роки тому

    Thank you I felt by connecting to the body it may earth and there will be problem I will try this

  • @squiretaylor963
    @squiretaylor963 4 роки тому +1

    When the spark plugs out it turns over great but in it gets a half a turn?

    • @brianspencer9806
      @brianspencer9806 4 роки тому

      I have the same problem and I have replaced everything other than the starter and even followed one stupid wild goose chaste to adjust my valves so now I have just purchased a new starter as well. If this doesn't get it IDK where to go next.

  • @PILATUS1968
    @PILATUS1968 2 роки тому

    yeah but what if you apply some pressure to the shaft and dont turn after turning while free? does that tell me that is bad?

  • @ljg0889
    @ljg0889 3 роки тому +1

    Hey i have a starter... i have testet it with 12 volts but its not working. But sometimes i tapp the starter with a hammer it work.
    And 1 min after it dont work.

    • @xzouix
      @xzouix 5 місяців тому

      Stuck brush(es)?

  • @WoWhacka
    @WoWhacka 4 роки тому +1

    What about a starter motor that works fine on a bench test and works fine in ATV without spark plug in, but once the starter is under load (in the ATV cranking under compression, starter motor makes a loud screeching noise and appears to have lost it torque? Any ideas?

    • @brianspencer9806
      @brianspencer9806 4 роки тому +1

      if you have tested the battery, and cable and cable connections and starter solenoid then I'd say the starter

  • @cameronlambert8946
    @cameronlambert8946 4 роки тому +2

    I go to test my new starter that I just bought to see if it will turn over and After I ground the cable to the starter and I apply the positive cable to it I just see sparks fly and it doesn’t turn over why is this ?

    • @brandonatkins9087
      @brandonatkins9087 4 роки тому +1

      I'm having the same problem. Did you find out why

    • @davidgoble2236
      @davidgoble2236 2 роки тому

      @@brandonatkins9087 did you find out why lol

  • @prmhighflr69
    @prmhighflr69 3 роки тому +1

    The most sensible and most easiest way to check your starter thank you for the video

  • @earlcrump7858
    @earlcrump7858 2 роки тому

    I have a 1997 Yamaha fzr 600R. I laid my bike down a while back on the right side ever since that happened now when I push the button to start my bike it won't start but I can push started with no problem. I did everything you said in the video and my starter is good at first I thought it was a starter before I tested it so I bought a new one I even bought a new solenoid and it still won't start when I push the button what could be the problem when I push the button a red light comes on indicating oil I don't understand my oil level is perfectly fine. Please help I'm tired of push starting my bike it weighs 515 lb

  • @tuansuthrorassdeen7447
    @tuansuthrorassdeen7447 2 роки тому +1

    Thanx,I got the info I was looking for.

  • @dipeshkumar9615
    @dipeshkumar9615 2 роки тому

    My 10mm wire goes to burn so advise for that

  • @keithstephens756
    @keithstephens756 4 роки тому

    Starter is grounded from the positive to the housing. One of the graphite holders is made on the housing and the other is insulated. Is it normal

  • @WoWhacka
    @WoWhacka 4 роки тому +1

    My ATV starter motor struggles to crank past the compression stroke, cranks perfectly without a spark plug in, any ideas?

    • @keeganfoster1792
      @keeganfoster1792 4 роки тому

      Matt Lee weak battery?/try wacking the starter with hard object if it helps speed it up starters wore. If not batterys probably weak

    • @brianspencer9806
      @brianspencer9806 4 роки тому

      @@keeganfoster1792 Could be a resistive connection too, a bad cable, or the starter itself even if it looks fine inside and spins on the bench, mine has been open twice, all components cleaned, bushes are good and free and still the same issue, all other components have been replaced and still the same problem, I think the permanent magnets may lose their magnetism. My 2008 Arctic cat does this and it only has about 500 miles on it, so it definitely isn't worn out.

  • @haugndog
    @haugndog 2 роки тому

    I am getting a nasty noise occasionally when starting the quad. We just replaced the starter clutch and it is still doing it. I checked compression, check the bottom end with the spark plug out and it feels great when rotating.it only happens when cranking over.
    All drive gear from the starter to the tarter clutch look great.
    Starter cranks over great, but we are getting that intermittent noise.
    Any ideas?
    I am tempted to change the starter just to eliminate it.
    Any help is much appreciated.

  • @jakeg4595
    @jakeg4595 5 років тому +1

    What if you have a good battery and you start the bike and it cranks over really slowly and the positive cable gets hot? I have that problem on my 2006 Husqvarna TC450

    • @cristianmoreno7000
      @cristianmoreno7000 3 роки тому

      did u figure out what it was going thru same thing thinkin its a bad starter solenoid

    • @kaanaydogan5130
      @kaanaydogan5130 3 роки тому

      Bad connection somewhere making resistance

  • @troyeager8877
    @troyeager8877 5 років тому

    I got a brand new battery. Two months later with minimal use it would not start. I replaced starter relay. Pulled out starter and tested with battery charger. It worked fine. Went back to auto part store got the battery replaced. It started up. Next day it wouldn't start. Any ideas? I do have a permanent trickle charger and winch hooked up. If that matters.

  • @nzbarbers3868
    @nzbarbers3868 2 роки тому +1

    I love the way you explained it, which is fast and easy. Thanks alot.

  • @JC-Joshua
    @JC-Joshua 3 роки тому

    Could I connect this to my bike battery charger instead of the bikes battery

  • @marcculliford9022
    @marcculliford9022 4 роки тому

    I'm having issues with my bike battery is full but it turns over like its dead. really slow how to test if its pulling to much power

  • @Indianuntoldstories
    @Indianuntoldstories 6 років тому +7

    hello sir
    i am from india
    can we use this type motor for making fan using fan blade

  • @XanCraft21
    @XanCraft21 5 років тому

    Can i use a smaller power source if it uses 12 volts dc? I’m trying a motor similar to that one with two 6 volt batteries and i get nothing, i doubled the voltage and still nothing. Is my motor bad or does my generic 12 volt power source need more amps?

  • @900bz
    @900bz 4 роки тому +3

    My starter sometimes clicks sometimes just makes a spinning sound depending on the voltage on the battery

  • @waterfordMARTIN
    @waterfordMARTIN 2 роки тому

    My starter motor has 9 volts on the body when tried to start my yamaha..something is wrong

  • @999benhonda
    @999benhonda 5 років тому +25

    as we all know, safety glasses always protect you from sparks...lol

    • @turtleb01
      @turtleb01 3 роки тому +2

      This kind of "low" current electric sparks won't burn your flesh, if that is what you are concerned about. The only risk is that those sparks might start a fire if you have something easily flammable nearby.

    • @gabe5360
      @gabe5360 2 роки тому +1

      @@turtleb01 WOOOOSH

  • @ponylifestyle5995
    @ponylifestyle5995 6 років тому +1

    How do I connect it ?

  • @loriessing5275
    @loriessing5275 4 роки тому

    What tool is needed to remove starter from yamaha 2000 1100 v star

  • @akbarhussain1767
    @akbarhussain1767 3 роки тому

    Hi Rocky Mountain, thank you for your fine tips for testing Starter Motor's, thank you ..

  • @johnsxn661
    @johnsxn661 4 роки тому +4

    You can do the same test by using a screwdriver and placing it on top of both connections on the starter relay and a spark will appear and the starter should turn or not depending if its good

    • @PrevailArmy
      @PrevailArmy 2 роки тому

      If it don't turn does it have to mean the starter is faulty. Could it be anything else

  • @elizabethasher8232
    @elizabethasher8232 2 роки тому

    What if the starter turns over once with the battery and the cables and when I double checked doing the same steps as the first time theres nothing

    • @rmatvmc
      @rmatvmc  2 роки тому

      You probably have a dead spot. This can happen if there is poor contact, a short or open at the commutator (Several metal tabs on the armature that the brushes ride on inside the starter). Sounds like it's time to replace it. Some starters can be rebuilt, but for most people, I would recommend replacing the whole thing to save some headache. -Charles

  • @397coney7
    @397coney7 4 роки тому +1

    My starter has three posts on it. I’m I feeling lucky?

  • @Nick10114
    @Nick10114 3 роки тому

    Mine makes a weird spinning noise when I touch the wire to the starter solenoid and never stops any idea what the problem is? I replaced the solenoid and and I’m about to install the starter.

    • @Pint76
      @Pint76 3 роки тому

      Bearing shot

  • @JoshuaRodriguez-i8y
    @JoshuaRodriguez-i8y Рік тому

    My starter makes the noise when I try turning bike on but won’t crank

  • @Smalltechguy
    @Smalltechguy 3 роки тому

    Nice explanation and simple. I have done a few of these but though maybe on these Kawasaki 300 that the connection might be backwards. But even just trying to turn the gear by hand, it still won't budge. It's brand new....grrrrr

  • @vincyboy5233
    @vincyboy5233 3 роки тому

    Hey Guys my ATV is not starting I think the starter motor was not mad for it 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ I wanna know what size starter motor to use 🤔

  • @jefferyyoung5401
    @jefferyyoung5401 5 років тому +1

    I tested my starter after rebuild and it seems to be working g properly, when I installed it the motor sounds ike it spins but does not engage the flywheel to crank the engine over. I am at my wits end!

    • @dennisbeck7892
      @dennisbeck7892 5 років тому

      Make sure your battery is fully charged. Usually the culprit. If battery is charged and good, you could have a ground issue.

    • @technologyguy101
      @technologyguy101 4 роки тому

      Worn-out Bendix

    • @guillermokmendoza3404
      @guillermokmendoza3404 4 роки тому

      Jeffery Young try fliping the magnets, its turning the opposite way

  • @davesmith6359
    @davesmith6359 7 років тому

    Sportsman won't start. I can start it by jumping the solenoid. Replaced the starter solenoid combo and same problem. Ignition?

    • @rvelandi1919
      @rvelandi1919 5 років тому

      Dave Smith. If you direct jump the solenoid and still have the same problem then the problem might be the ignition switch or the kill switch.

    • @dennisbeck7892
      @dennisbeck7892 5 років тому

      First make SURE your battery is fully charged. Second, check that all of your grounds are tight.

  • @demijoker4160
    @demijoker4160 4 роки тому

    I try to start the bike and all you hear is the starter but no turn over. Loud starter noise but passes starter test. What's wrong?

    • @rmatvmc
      @rmatvmc  4 роки тому

      It's hard to say. I would recommend checking your machine to make sure your engine is getting fuel and spark next.

  • @MIXMAKER108
    @MIXMAKER108 4 роки тому

    SIR THIS 12V MOTOR WORK IN 24 V BATTERY

    • @brianspencer9806
      @brianspencer9806 4 роки тому

      Not for very long. A field wound starter works well like that but not a permanent magnet motor.

  • @LimothySmith
    @LimothySmith 4 роки тому

    What if your starter motor is chrome plated?

  • @samsonkeishing6346
    @samsonkeishing6346 5 років тому

    hi brother thanks you showing to how does starters work so I will understand explain

  • @preachingjesusministry7201
    @preachingjesusministry7201 7 років тому +1

    Thanks for showing this video so that really means I have a bad starter

  • @jimmysbarandgrill524
    @jimmysbarandgrill524 3 роки тому

    Starter working good when spark plugs are out..... When I put the spark plugs back in..... Starter seems like it can barely turn the motor over

  • @Benaamtv1
    @Benaamtv1 3 роки тому +1

    Rpm?

  • @whisperproductions9880
    @whisperproductions9880 2 роки тому

    I accidentally took my starter apart, I put it back together and now it just spins and my bike doesn't turn on. 2017 kawasaki zx6r.

  • @adityadevtarase7256
    @adityadevtarase7256 3 роки тому +1

    NiCe Thanku Good Information

  • @ProTurbo1988
    @ProTurbo1988 5 років тому

    what is the ohm reading ?? between the positive and negative

    • @brianspencer9806
      @brianspencer9806 4 роки тому

      very very low since the motor is not turning it's just the resistance of the windings which is less than one ohm

  • @adisviewpoint3174
    @adisviewpoint3174 6 років тому

    How much time does a battery last if I use starter motor continuously ??? Please reply to my answer earlier

    • @dennisbeck7892
      @dennisbeck7892 5 років тому

      Depends on the battery. Under a load, depending on the load, batteries will vary.

  • @stevepowell4946
    @stevepowell4946 4 роки тому +1

    Thanks

  • @mauromorgado651
    @mauromorgado651 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks from Brasil

    • @rmatvmc
      @rmatvmc  6 місяців тому

      De nada! Obridago por assistir nosso video. Esperemos que vc tenha gostado!

  • @chaseflynn9263
    @chaseflynn9263 7 років тому

    My atv is turning over but will not start. It will only make a zzzzzing noise. Any suggestions?

  • @geegrafix
    @geegrafix Рік тому

    Big problem doing what he said. It works great if your starter is good. But since the idea is to test if it's bad, this is not good. If the starter has gone bad due to an internal short, you may as well be touching both sides of the battery terminals with your hand...

  • @djmobn
    @djmobn 5 років тому +2

    Dustin d legend respect

  • @mahendrasingmahale68
    @mahendrasingmahale68 4 роки тому

    Great information

  • @webersongalvani1880
    @webersongalvani1880 7 років тому +1

    Coloca legenda em português nos vídeo

  • @russelleavers201
    @russelleavers201 15 днів тому +1

    Russell

  • @cylenbrandt8812
    @cylenbrandt8812 4 роки тому

    Starter test good but don't turn on the bike what can be the problem than

  • @joet6990
    @joet6990 5 років тому +1

    Does anybody here actually answer any of the questions in the comments? What would happen if you used a higher voltage battery?

    • @Chocoboranger
      @Chocoboranger 5 років тому +1

      This kills the starter (if its not rated for higher voltages)

    • @brianspencer9806
      @brianspencer9806 4 роки тому

      He's right, you can't get more power out of the same size starter, power is heat, and the heat has to be dissipated.

  • @Gabriel-er8pp
    @Gabriel-er8pp 5 років тому

    my voltmeter doesn't even work.

  • @juanguevara6729
    @juanguevara6729 3 роки тому

    My same how to fix? What wrong!

  • @nickni610
    @nickni610 5 років тому

    Проверил, блин! Дети в саду так моторчик проверяют-крутит или нет!? Показал бы ещё фокус с реверсивным пуском. Деградация аудитории

  • @russellcool5276
    @russellcool5276 Рік тому +1

    Russell 79TuLlpLN

  • @said8756
    @said8756 Рік тому

    If i do the same and starter starts but after a few seconds sticks and makes weird noise it means that it is dead?