LPL has long praised Mul-T-Lock, their pin-in-pin design, combined with a mix of security pins makes it a real challenge to pick, he has often said they're an enjoyable challenge.
Dunno. LPL praised PacLoc in the past and I've yet to see one in a store. I remember he announced that they had a deal with Home Depot, but apparently that deal involves HD giving PL some money in order to keep shoving easy-open Brinks locks at customers.
I wonder what is the best lock he’s seen which has a common enough key type that you can get copied at your local hardware store. That’s going to probably be the best choice for a lot of people.
He makes that look WAAAAY too easy. Picking pin-in-pin locks is hellishly hard. It is SO damn hard to feel precisely where you are and what exactly you're pressing against.
@@u6uggg6hguiuggy Yessir. But while I have you on the horn, can you give me the address for the warehouse where you're storing all the Waifu Dolls you ceased at Boston harbour?
also it has GPS tracking though for someone to bypass the GPS would need to separate the electronic part from the metallic part without the metal contacts in the plastic touching the lock which would be hard to do in field environments as the lock would usually be against something such as a door of a shipping container making it harder to slide stuff inside and LPL said it would most likely be used with a hasp which would make it harder to unscrew the screws that join both the electronics and the lock together
I love how security conscious this guy is. Even though he would never use a lock in which he shows the key on camera, he's still careful not to expose the identifying information on the interior label of the tracker module 😎
I'm going to start a youtube channel that's all about tossing cookware around in the entranceway to a building. It'll be called "The Wok-Flipping Foyer".
2:44 oh wow its the subtle things. Like the slight reset at the start of this (1:43) but this.. this.. As you put the lock down you palmed and swiped it so your finger prints didn't show up on camera and so the lock its self didn't reflect you as now its all smudged... damn man that was smooth. again 3:43. not opening that flap all the way to not show the IMIE number on the sticker next to the sim card... subtle things.
Just for: "It doesn't make sense to develop a solution without fully understanding the problem." I suggest LPL for President. Plus, he would be able to get all of Congress out of their dead lock… and unlock our free future.
MUL. TI. Pass. “Yes it’s a multi pass! I think she’s got it.” Love that movie! One of the best movies I think that was ever made; and while the fan base is large: I still do not think it is appreciated enough.
It should be, but if you look at the video before he opens it and then after, the dimple in the shackle really does look like it lines up with one of the contacts, which seems a bit stupid to me, as removing the plastic tracking element, would presumably not trigger it, unless there is another contact somewhere that is NC on a different circuit
@@CaedmonOS Electric circuits are called NO for Normally Open where no current flows unless a contact is made. And NC for Normally Closed where current always flows unless the contact is broken. Some confusion comes about because you might think "open" means current flows like a water faucet when it's open, but in the case of electricity when the switch is "open" there is a gap that prevents contact and thus no current can flow through. When the switch is "closed" it does make contact and thus current can flow through the switch. It's physically closed contact to contact, not to be confused with "closed" in the sense that it prevents the flow such as when a window is closed to block the wind.
Oh that makes sense normally open to normally closed, I just didn't know the abbreviation NO and NC. I was actually thinking the exact same thing why is it normally open when it should be normally closed so you can't just pull it off of the thing without it tripping
Ring-ring: "Hello." Computer voice: "Your Mul-T-Lock is now being picked. You should....update, your Mul-T-Lock has been picked open and is now......We no longer have contact with your Mul-T-Lock."
"Your Mul-T-Lock has heard 'Nothing on one, click out of two'. We proceeded to break your insurance contract since it does not cover LPL picking attempts, sorry for the inconvenience."
I keep getting voicemail messages saying that the warranty on my Mul-T-Lock is about to expire and that I should call immediately to renew it. I wonder if the warranty covers LPL attacks.
Dave Jones from EEVBlog forced me to write this comment. _"Dave challenges The Lockpicking Lawyer to pick the lock on his new storage unit, an 11 disc Abloy Protec 2."_
I can't watch these videos anymore without thinking of the barking doorbell... just got to be one of the greatest things on the internet for a plethora of reasons
Another lock absolutely destroyed. You never fail to stimulate my lock picking lust and I am never left without an immediate response from my serotonin receptors when you break that locks cherry. Bravo.
I don’t know if you guys noticed, but after he picked the lock he used the palm of his hand to smudge over any fingerprints he would’ve left on the shiny lock surface. Man this guy is good, he thinks of everything.
When I heard talk of SIM cards and GPS, I felt a cold dread that this lock was going to be some Internet-Of-Things abomination designed to be opened with a phone app. I was pleasantly surprised.
Sure you could. Not saying its impossible or it is very well designed from a security perspective, but most people who worry about there locks being hacked have no clue how hard it is to hack something like that
I think it's more like that you know that the lock was picked, so you know where and what got stolen, in case you have multiple locks like that. And I bet there are insurance advantages.
Honestly, most uses of the GPS will be "is it on course?", followed by "where did the still-secure container get sent by accident?" Active attacks are not the common threat, in practice.
I figured it would work well for business purposes, such as when an employee or manager is given a key, that way if it is suspiciously opened during non-business hours and stuff goes missing, the boss knows why.
I think I see some potential security being left on the table, when it could be essentially done for (almost) zero dollars: Switching the "normally open" contacts in the digital nanny to a "normally closed" would make it be able to be tested--electrically--that the lock is closed. So even if the lock is 'compromised' via bolt cutters, which I don't think is the case as it is presented in the video. And, plus, it would work with any lock and not a special 'dimpled' lock. And, if they wanted to go a step further, making it both monitor the shackle and the metal body of the lock with another contact (ground? Body?) would allow them to know virtually anything about the lock they would want to know: Is the lock open normally? Then one contact will be be broken. Is the lock closed? Then both the 'ground' pin and the two 'inputs' would all be solidly connected. Is the lock saying it is closed, but the ground pin is disconnected? ALARM! Because that should be impossible to occur. I might be unaware of some more fine details of the installation/use of these locks... But I really think that changing from "Normally Open" to "Normally Closed" would be far superior.
So you would run a wire through the shackle and add a contact in the keyhole. When you put in the key, contact is closed and alarm doesn't go off, but lockpick wouldn't make the contact, so it would start. Then we need another wire going through the shackle all the way to the end and back as backup for the case where someone jams piece of metal in the keyhole and cuts the shackle. I think that wouldn't be that hard to make.
He finds the pins so easy! This channel made me buy a 5-pin practice lock and some picks and even that is hard to know where your tip is and what pin you're picking.
If someone shows up with a GPS jammer or is otherwise prepared to break this security, they most likely intended to breach this from the get go and have planned for it. It's very very hard to stop properly planned attacks, but these sorts of devices are pretty good as an added layer of security, against someone more opportunistic who may only have expected a normal padlock. If someone really wants to get though most of the locks shown here on the LPL channel, a battery powered angle grinder would make short work of them all. But then again if someone *really* wants to breach it, they'll most likely succeed.
Yep. Most real-world thieves aren't after the contents of a specific storage unit, they just look for the storage unit with the weakest security and steal whatever's in there.
many thanks after watching this , it took me five mins to pick an old lock in the shed . it had a broken key in it . but i have the second key . now i have a lock that i can use many thanks
If the lock is in a steel recess to protect the electronics, I wonder how that affects the cellular reception. I hope they designed the antenna for the inevitable application.
That would be an interesting test for the LPL. Put the lock in a steel box with one open side and see if the cellular works. Then try various Faraday shields to defeat it.
@@psirvent8 well a microwave is quite the well faraday cage by design. After all you wouldn’t want to blast your house with a few kilo Watts of microwave radiation every time you use it.
Yeah, like if a container that the lock is on is in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Perfect place to break into the lock...lol...open the container and find ...pencils...millions of pencils.
Solution: Add a shutter over the keyway that only opens when the lock has a solid cell signal and after the lock has sent a confirmed keyway shutter open message, and add a stopper that prevents opening when the keyway is turned, and only retracts if there is a cell signal, and only after it has sent a confirmed lock unlocked message. Dead battery solved with external power charge pins.
It still seems to be a good design and with a well type installation you would not be able to access the top of the lock. There are of course other ways in jamming a signal but I think that may be even more of a challenge as that signal won’t be sent until the lock has been opened. Great job with the pick as always and also working past that false gate
I think LOL got it right: the lock is used for mobile items. It appears the lock is sized to fit into the pockets on construction site tool chests- and the GPS would let you know if the chest started moving after you’ve gone home.
Kinda why I picked up the hobby, not only is it interesting and educational when it comes to security, but in a situation like that it's gonna be damn useful being able to walk through walls. After the last few years, I'm not taking any chances, if someone had described this timeline to me a decade ago I would have had them committed.
The military has a version of this one but the entire thing is inside of a metal case and what makes the whole military lock just a bit cooler is a door system that closes after you have the lock in place and then you have to pop-up the shackle to open the doors. The doors cover almost the entire shackle except for the area where it is connected to the hasp of the thing you want to lock up.
There are maybe a few hundred folk in the entire world who could open this lock in user 15 minutes, I'm hardly underskilled but it would take me that long. it's a good 'un
What if it is in contact all the time and only triggers the alarm when the contact is lost? The plastic shim would trigger it and also if you unplugged it from the lock trying to unplug the power.
The so called "dimple"/relief, is the determining factor here. When the lock is closed, the relief is breaking contact with the pin. This has the added benefit of using the battery more slowly over time, like turning a device off, than if the system was always in contact waiting for an interruption event. I hope that makes sense!
It's really pretty cool. I'd like to see the electronics inside the main lock body. Can't be that bad. My GPS works inside the car under a layer or two of sheet metal.
Hey LPL, just curious, is there an FCC ID on the lock electronics anywhere? Often, we can get an inside view courtesy of the feds w/o having to remove a single screw.
With a small faraday cage you could block it from sending a signal, so if you could find a way to pick it while it was inside that, you could pull it off.
He did mention using a shim on the shackle would probably avoid the user from being alerted that the lock had been opened... No real need to go that far.
I'd like to see verification about the possibility that a plastic shim would completely defeat the so-called "nanny". The most complete exploit would be one that would cause it to send a false signal that it's secure (along with the location), when it's actually been defeated and is not longer secure, which would garner the highest CVSS score. Interrupting the signal would only be a minor exploit, as that should result in an alert being sent to the owner by the receiver, which would be worth testing as well, as that would result in significantly lower CVSS score. Only ensuring that the device sends a false secure would earn the maximum CVSS score.
@@NOTNOTJON slight issue with that is that these are probably going to be strapped as something like a transport container so getting a faraday cage or box or bag into the site where you're trying to cut the lock is going to be a bit difficult
Jamming the signal might result in an "unknown" condition but I doubt it would be as serious as an assumed defeat. Whether it pushes or pulls it's status, I would jam it, pick it, remove the battery and access whatever it protects, destroy the nanny by applying a current limited high discharge to the sim contacts, then reassemble and relock. It appears to the owner then that the device failed, and all they have is an approximate timestamp.
After watching LPL I've learned to either just weld things shut or encase the valuables in a random location within a solid underground 20ftx20ft concrete block with lots of rebar support. I would also be sure to build a house on top of the valuables so they will never be stolen. You may ask how I plan to get the valuables back, and to that I will respond, the same way humans will walk on the surface of the sun, In a million years, maybe, hopefully...
Let me put it into perspective then: I've been picking for 5 years. About 3-4 hours a week on average. I'm a fairly good guitarist too, so my dexterity isn't sub-par. I take 10-12 minutes picking a lock similar to this (so 5 pin-in-pin style) if I haven't picked it in a while.... he is UNGODLY good.... The stuff he rakes, yeah sure, I can do that too. But he is 5-7 times faster with standard pin tumbler locks and easily 10-15 times faster with the exotic stuff.... That is, the exotic stuff I actually CAN pick. Some of the stuff he's picked has so nasty warding that I simply can't do it without constantly getting my pick stuck and end up giving up in frustration (I have a 30 minute time limit before I reset or put it away for the day).
@@andersjjensen You are making an assumption that LPL picks the lock in one try and in one take. Basically, the video you are seeing is the finished product. What really happens behind the scenes? How many times has he tried to pick the lock before filming it? How long did it really take to pick the lock the first time and how many failed tries? Does he already know exactly how to pick the lock before picking the lock again on video? Notice that he always already knows a lot about the lock at the beginning of the video. Does it seem like he is following a well prepared script?
@@richardswit6988 I've seen him unwrap custom pinned high security locks with the keys mummified and pick them cold in 60 seconds or less, and he has taken first place in a number of picking contests a number of times. Furthermore: he is an active participant on r/lockpicking and have done collabs with other well known and high profile lock pickers. I know all this because I'm a reasonably experienced picker myself and I have eyes in my head: I can SEE how perfect his pick placement and tension technique is.... So no, I'm not making any assumptions. He is considered god-tier by many pickers much better than myself. He doesn't need to rehears a lock of this difficulty level. It's "just" a medium security Mul-T lock.
Man the way he breaks into locks makes every lock I look at feel vulnerable. So I would love to see a video about recommendations for home use. If it’s been posted already please let me know the title. Either way great videos!!
Isn’t that “piggyback” supposed to make contact with the hasp? When the lock open the circuit will break and the “piggyback” will know the lock is open. I imagine the defeat is a metal shim / jumper not a piece of plastic. Am I correct?
There is also not knowing what the security app running in that hardware is actually looking for. It's possible it has a "known good" resistance value that's reading across the entire device, so a metal or plastic shim would push the value out of the acceptable range. You see it in more than a few high-end security systems watching datalines/conduit/etc..., and wouldn't be difficult to use the same principle on this module even with a "random" pulse timer to reduce long-term power draw
I think the peace of mind comes with that if you have information about the exterior tracker and maybe an interior beacon; then you have more information about the cargo container than just what the shipping company provides. If your exterior tracker fails while your interior beacon is active; likely you have a problem now.
00:57 *"So it doesn't make sense to develop a solution without fully understanding the problem"* LockPickingLawyer also being your LockPickingTherapist today.
Nice video - I'm worried my comments might sound otherwise. Thanks for this! Now - well it took YOU a while to pick it so despite a cheap toy loosely clipped on to the lock it argues a good lock. IMO if they are using electricity and sensors they should build it into the lock and: 1 - if there is messing inside the key entry and there's no chip in the key it detects a picking attempt - locks of the same brand would have a similar chip so not go to "Detects Picking attempt" but make note "Wrong Key" and give a few warnings first before - 2 - if there's breaking into the box, the lock body - picking attempt 3 - if the key is being turned but there are sensors that show there has to be pressure on two or three at once and these are changed between locks - picking attempt On a picking attempt the lock kills itself and sends an alarm out. I'd have a fuse with a second batch of powder a circuit hits and it cuts all the wiring to the electronics if any can be used to open it. For a mechanical lock there needs to be some kind of hole in the shackle a second solenoid - or again a pin and powder charge - can ram into it, re-locking it. The lock is then screaming for help via alarm and digital signal and is dead - but whoever tried to pick it only wrecked the lock and sent an alarm out. Bad news is the lock is ruined but this fail would cause any real thief to run like a bunny at a fursuit convention.
I've worked at a company where the coffemachine had a network connection, so the service company could get a message every time it needed a fill-up or a error message occur. The big downers, was the response time, when it was low on coffee.
Question: If this was attached to say a shipping container would it be as easy to pick? ie would there be room to get that Z bar in or would it not lift up far enough away from the container?
Typically, real world conditions are re-created by virtue of the fact that LPL has to maneuver his arms into an awkward around-the-camera move, but that's still a good question. Some hasps prevent the lock from being twisted more than is needed to insert the key.
You mentioned a "deep false set" here and in other videos. Exactly what does that mean and why is it used? If you already addressed this and other terms in a previous video could you let me know which video it is? I really enjoy your channel.
A false set is when the lock rotates more towards unlocking but does not unlock completely. Most of the time it's a sign that some pins are set and/or that some pins are spools and got stuck halfway (usually that's when you get counter rotation).
To expand on the comment above: A "set" is when you're picking a lock and a binding pin reaches the shear line, giving you a tiny rotation of the core (and causing another pin to bind). A "false set" is caused when a spool (cotton-reel) shaped driver pin is across the shear line and, due to its smaller diameter in the centre, permits a small rotation of the core despite not being at the shear line. Hence a "false set". You'll hear LPL and other pickers talk about "counter-rotation" when picking spool pins too - this happens when a spool pin in a false set is raised to the shear line. Its larger end diameter causes the lock to have to go backwards a little from the false set position so that the end of the spool driver pin can pass. These are one type of security pin, and they make picking substantially harder. You can find lots of videos on how lock picking works overall and how to pick spool pins online. Bosnian Bill, LockN00b and Deviant Ollam all have some, I think.
@@chemistrykrang8065 And we should note, spools tend to make it impossible to rake, zip or jiggle a lock open. Your only solution is single-pin picking like done here, or if the keyhole is big enough, use a comb pick.
@@DinnerForkTongue Yes... electric pick guns, bumping, or old school impressioning can work on spools, though. Comb picks only work if the driver pins are too short, if the pins are properly sized they wouldn't work however open the keyway.
"This seems to be designed as a solution for things like shipping containers in transit." Not likely. Pretty sure this is something that would get put on a victim's car to track their location. It's essentially a tracking device that the victim won't be able to remove easily. Very scary. Not sure how easy they are to get ahold of and use.
A pair of bolt cutters would do the trick. So would a cordless angle grinder. Also, cars generally don't have any hasps that this would fit... so where would you put it?
LPL had a series in the past where LPL received a couple of locks from bosnian bill that bosnian bill couldn't pick. Some of them LPL was able to pick, some he wasn't. The series was called something "box of shame"...
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I like how he always says “and WE got this open” as if the viewers did anything. I’m always so proud of us.
We’ve come a long way.
It's like Blues Clues
I personally listen for the clicks so I feel like I'm helping
We did it, chat!
@@7178543 I'm always watching for counter- rotation.
The plastic case is welded shut? That sounds like a job for Mrs. LPL. She seems to have perfected entry methods for such situations.
iykyk
She does seem to favor using the shop xray machine.
That is indeed her speciality
@@TacticallyGrumpy you mean the shop universal key aka a crowbar
@@Dj1Crook that works too. The shop x-ray is sometimes called a "hammer". It lets you see inside things when applied correctly.
1 minute pick, thats a safe lock to use
Yes
Yeah multilock is pretty stout
Bahahahaha soo true
@@freighter1097 Stealth is not optional for this mission.
He is one of the best lock pickers so I would say yes.
LPL called this thing “above average”. Brb, buying a shit ton of stock in this company after hearing that heavy-hitting endorsement.
LPL has long praised Mul-T-Lock, their pin-in-pin design, combined with a mix of security pins makes it a real challenge to pick, he has often said they're an enjoyable challenge.
They've been one of the better locks out there for years. Long before he gave them praise.
It's an ASSA brand, they're already the biggest name in the industry.
@@johndododoe1411 Assa just bought them, not made.
Dunno. LPL praised PacLoc in the past and I've yet to see one in a store. I remember he announced that they had a deal with Home Depot, but apparently that deal involves HD giving PL some money in order to keep shoving easy-open Brinks locks at customers.
So this was mildly challenging for LPL. I should buy one.
He has a video called Nastiest Keyways where he’s got some locks he actually haven’t been able to open I thought that was the craziest thing
I wonder what is the best lock he’s seen which has a common enough key type that you can get copied at your local hardware store.
That’s going to probably be the best choice for a lot of people.
@@shrimpypotato9564 combine those cores with the lock they had to use a 50 caliber on to open and you’re golden
@@shrimpypotato9564 Sad that they're all either custom production or out of production.
The Company: "WOOHOO! He called our lock above average!"
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Has this lock been tested in extreme cold weather?...even radios and flashlights and phones will not work if they get too cold
@@tenguken847 From the data sheet: Operating Temperature: -20°C to +60°C
Storage Temperature: -40°C to +85°C
Protection Rating: IP65
@@tenguken847 I dont think this will be used in siberia
@@Edigor100
they just pay bears to guard their bikes
"It doesn't make sense to develop a solution without fully understanding the problem." Sage advice.
Certain people I work with could use this advice.
@@ububox2087 Certain people I work _for_ could use this advice.
@@mmseng2 certain people could use this advice.
@@acters124 people could use this advice
@@bloodorange7428 Use this advice.
There's a whole community of people who know what a "Multipick dimple flag" is, then there's the rest of the world.
implying google doesn’t exist
@@septclues what's google?
@@isaiah9683 a number with 100 zeros, I think
@@danielleaman4034 That's googol actually.
@@macethorns1168 i prefer a tree
He makes that look WAAAAY too easy. Picking pin-in-pin locks is hellishly hard. It is SO damn hard to feel precisely where you are and what exactly you're pressing against.
Starting out in picking feels that way too. I had no idea what I was feeling even inside of a pos masterlock.
Making hard things look easy is the mark of a true master.
Yeah and then people call normal lock pickers trash cause they watched too much lpl , smh
You guys planning a robbery?
@@u6uggg6hguiuggy Yessir. But while I have you on the horn, can you give me the address for the warehouse where you're storing all the Waifu Dolls you ceased at Boston harbour?
Over 60 seconds for LPL to pick this!? TAKE MY MONEY
also it has GPS tracking though for someone to bypass the GPS would need to separate the electronic part from the metallic part without the metal contacts in the plastic touching the lock which would be hard to do in field environments as the lock would usually be against something such as a door of a shipping container making it harder to slide stuff inside and LPL said it would most likely be used with a hasp which would make it harder to unscrew the screws that join both the electronics and the lock together
Better fork it over, the padlocks are like $70 on Amazon
I love how security conscious this guy is. Even though he would never use a lock in which he shows the key on camera, he's still careful not to expose the identifying information on the interior label of the tracker module 😎
I'm going to start a youtube channel that's all about tossing cookware around in the entranceway to a building.
It'll be called "The Wok-Flipping Foyer".
Congratulations. You have won the interweb for today 😂
underrated comment
I'll bring some stones and a hammer into a theater.
The rock-chipping annoyer.
Pls
2:44 oh wow its the subtle things. Like the slight reset at the start of this (1:43) but this.. this.. As you put the lock down you palmed and swiped it so your finger prints didn't show up on camera and so the lock its self didn't reflect you as now its all smudged... damn man that was smooth.
again 3:43. not opening that flap all the way to not show the IMIE number on the sticker next to the sim card... subtle things.
Still, even when these proskills he cannot hope to defeat Mrs Lock Picking Lawyer
He is a professional security man.
Oh, I didn't know Tom had a secret identity? 🤷🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Just for: "It doesn't make sense to develop a solution without fully understanding the problem." I suggest LPL for President. Plus, he would be able to get all of Congress out of their dead lock… and unlock our free future.
"What do we do about Iran?" "Counter rotation on 2" "Mr. President... is this a test? Or a koan? Or did Assa Abloy send over free locks again?"
Campaign slogan: "Pick a Winner! Vote LPL!"
I'd vote for him before Biden.
Not that anyone voted for Biden...
It's a big club, and we've already seen what happens when someone gets elected who isn't in it..
One minute, six seconds to pick. High tier lock!
😆
Would it take longer if he didn't have the key which tells him exactly what is inside the lock? Basically picking it blind.
You should send the electric GPS tracker to BigClive for him to tear down
BigClive is just hilarious sometimes :)
I'd start with mildly soapy saline solution. That'd do wonders for the electronics. ;)
Yeah he coule figure out how the circuit works
he could open it with the vice of truth or the hammer of justice
@@amojak AvE's hammer!
I just keep hearing "Korben Dallas multipass."
MUL.
TI.
Pass.
“Yes it’s a multi pass! I think she’s got it.”
Love that movie!
One of the best movies I think that was ever made; and while the fan base is large: I still do not think it is appreciated enough.
@@josiahtasich6073 agreed. My dogs' names are Korben and Leeloo
i cant stop watching that movie.
But is it green?
@@perwestermark8920 supergreen
When LPL says "Aaaand we got this open" I'm like "Yay, we did it! Teamwork!"
Literally changed trades from master carpenter to locksmithing because of you. Never looked back. Happier than ever. Thank you!
I would think it’s more likely a NC type circuit so that when it opens, it triggers an event.
I tend to agree.
NO for safety, NC for security.
It should be, but if you look at the video before he opens it and then after, the dimple in the shackle really does look like it lines up with one of the contacts, which seems a bit stupid to me, as removing the plastic tracking element, would presumably not trigger it, unless there is another contact somewhere that is NC on a different circuit
What are you talking about
@@CaedmonOS Electric circuits are called NO for Normally Open where no current flows unless a contact is made. And NC for Normally Closed where current always flows unless the contact is broken. Some confusion comes about because you might think "open" means current flows like a water faucet when it's open, but in the case of electricity when the switch is "open" there is a gap that prevents contact and thus no current can flow through. When the switch is "closed" it does make contact and thus current can flow through the switch. It's physically closed contact to contact, not to be confused with "closed" in the sense that it prevents the flow such as when a window is closed to block the wind.
Oh that makes sense normally open to normally closed, I just didn't know the abbreviation NO and NC. I was actually thinking the exact same thing why is it normally open when it should be normally closed so you can't just pull it off of the thing without it tripping
The electronics don’t look particularly weather resistant. I wonder how prone the system is to either shorting out or giving a false open signal?
depends on the insides, if the circuit is covered in say epoxy it might be atleast somewhat water proof.
@@metalspoon69 think that might have been in reference to the contact dimple part
I wonder where it's intended to be used - less weather means also less radio reception.
I also think so that electronics in different pagoda conditions will not withstand, especially here in Russia
Shipping containers usually have a metal cover that hangs over the lock
These videos are so satisfying
Ring-ring: "Hello."
Computer voice: "Your Mul-T-Lock is now being picked. You should....update, your Mul-T-Lock has been picked open and is now......We no longer have contact with your Mul-T-Lock."
"Your Mul-T-Lock has heard 'Nothing on one, click out of two'. We proceeded to break your insurance contract since it does not cover LPL picking attempts, sorry for the inconvenience."
You then find out nothing was stolen except for the lock so LPL could take it home and play with it.
I keep getting voicemail messages saying that the warranty on my Mul-T-Lock is about to expire and that I should call immediately to renew it. I wonder if the warranty covers LPL attacks.
Dave Jones from EEVBlog forced me to write this comment. _"Dave challenges The Lockpicking Lawyer to pick the lock on his new storage unit, an 11 disc Abloy Protec 2."_
Shots allegedly fired
I have some Abloy Protec locks and I feel secure with them but if anyone could get them open, this guy would be the one.
Pretty sure TPBBAIM already has grooves enough to reach an 11 disc detainer.
I can't watch these videos anymore without thinking of the barking doorbell... just got to be one of the greatest things on the internet for a plethora of reasons
interesting... nvr have though if this,!. maybe a shotgun sound with a hey get off my porch
A smooth swipe of the hand removes any pesky and potentially identity compromising finger prints. Nice.
Another lock absolutely destroyed. You never fail to stimulate my lock picking lust and I am never left without an immediate response from my serotonin receptors when you break that locks cherry. Bravo.
Wow....that took an unusually long time to pick into. That's a pretty solid core by LPL standards.
LPL has always been a fan of the brand
"... it doesn't make sense to develop a solution without fully understanding the problem."
Yeah, but that never stopped anybody.
"Above average"
High praise indeed.
Always impressed with your speed and knowledge
I don’t know if you guys noticed, but after he picked the lock he used the palm of his hand to smudge over any fingerprints he would’ve left on the shiny lock surface.
Man this guy is good, he thinks of everything.
Nah you know what LPL? You've had this coming for a while, YOU have a nice day! 😊
When I heard talk of SIM cards and GPS, I felt a cold dread that this lock was going to be some Internet-Of-Things abomination designed to be opened with a phone app.
I was pleasantly surprised.
Even then, the GPS part was just badly tacked on.
Laugh all you want but LPL is not going to be picking Google's Nest deadbolt anytime ever.
@@johnrussell267 Only in the same sense that he didn't "pick" that TED Tooling screw lock.
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Why bother? I could simply hack the thing with a computer without being anywhere near the thing.
Sure you could. Not saying its impossible or it is very well designed from a security perspective, but most people who worry about there locks being hacked have no clue how hard it is to hack something like that
Honestly this is the best concept for electronics in a padlock I've seen on the show.
Well the GPS means you can at least find what hedge the lock is lying in after someone picks and throws it away...
I think it's more like that you know that the lock was picked, so you know where and what got stolen, in case you have multiple locks like that. And I bet there are insurance advantages.
Or they would re-lock it onto a random vehicle that could end up anywhere.
@@jaymassengill3340 smart 😄👍
Honestly, most uses of the GPS will be "is it on course?", followed by "where did the still-secure container get sent by accident?" Active attacks are not the common threat, in practice.
I figured it would work well for business purposes, such as when an employee or manager is given a key, that way if it is suspiciously opened during non-business hours and stuff goes missing, the boss knows why.
I come bearing a message.....Abloy Protec2? Don't kill the messenger. Thanks for the video
Let's be honest here, if it takes him 15+ seconds to pick a lock it's should be considered very good lock.
A lock the LPL doesn’t open with a matchstick or a soda straw has to be a pretty good one.
@@censusgary Please at least add a rake to that list :P
@@censusgary You forgot the old "shim made from soda can".
I appreciate that you thought enough to wipe your prints off the lock after picking it, As per usual great video.
I think I see some potential security being left on the table, when it could be essentially done for (almost) zero dollars: Switching the "normally open" contacts in the digital nanny to a "normally closed" would make it be able to be tested--electrically--that the lock is closed. So even if the lock is 'compromised' via bolt cutters, which I don't think is the case as it is presented in the video. And, plus, it would work with any lock and not a special 'dimpled' lock.
And, if they wanted to go a step further, making it both monitor the shackle and the metal body of the lock with another contact (ground? Body?) would allow them to know virtually anything about the lock they would want to know: Is the lock open normally? Then one contact will be be broken. Is the lock closed? Then both the 'ground' pin and the two 'inputs' would all be solidly connected. Is the lock saying it is closed, but the ground pin is disconnected? ALARM! Because that should be impossible to occur.
I might be unaware of some more fine details of the installation/use of these locks... But I really think that changing from "Normally Open" to "Normally Closed" would be far superior.
So you would run a wire through the shackle and add a contact in the keyhole. When you put in the key, contact is closed and alarm doesn't go off, but lockpick wouldn't make the contact, so it would start. Then we need another wire going through the shackle all the way to the end and back as backup for the case where someone jams piece of metal in the keyhole and cuts the shackle. I think that wouldn't be that hard to make.
This lock has a 75SLPLR security rating: 75 Seconds Lock Picking Lawyer Resistance
Ive been using a MulT padlock nearly 2-3 times a day for last 3 years and its been amazing.
I don’t think he could’ve opened it without ‘all’ our help 😉
Thanks for the great picking and awesome vid as always, cheers!
3:26 I think once contact is broken, it would trigger something. So you'd need metal shims, with a wire between the two so continuity isn't lost.
The concept looks interesting and the lock also seems decent.
Yeah although they barely tried with the GPS tracker
He finds the pins so easy! This channel made me buy a 5-pin practice lock and some picks and even that is hard to know where your tip is and what pin you're picking.
Awesome video LPL!😸
I know this joke has been done before, but I want to see LPL pick the reverse bear trap for Halloween.
When it's activated
That trap from saw?
@@idkidk4334 yes, that one
If someone shows up with a GPS jammer or is otherwise prepared to break this security, they most likely intended to breach this from the get go and have planned for it.
It's very very hard to stop properly planned attacks, but these sorts of devices are pretty good as an added layer of security, against someone more opportunistic who may only have expected a normal padlock.
If someone really wants to get though most of the locks shown here on the LPL channel, a battery powered angle grinder would make short work of them all. But then again if someone *really* wants to breach it, they'll most likely succeed.
Yep. Most real-world thieves aren't after the contents of a specific storage unit, they just look for the storage unit with the weakest security and steal whatever's in there.
Pulls out shoulder mounted RPG- "I intend on getting in...."
If you have a battery-powered angle grinder it's likely to be easier to cut the hasp or some other part of the container to bypass the lock entirely.
His skills are quite amazing.
many thanks after watching this , it took me five mins to pick an old lock in the shed . it had a broken key in it .
but i have the second key .
now i have a lock that i can use
many thanks
LPL: "Above average lock from Mul-T-Lock"
Me, who couldn't pick a Mul-T-Lock to save my life: ...
If the lock is in a steel recess to protect the electronics, I wonder how that affects the cellular reception. I hope they designed the antenna for the inevitable application.
That would be an interesting test for the LPL. Put the lock in a steel box with one open side and see if the cellular works. Then try various Faraday shields to defeat it.
@@hiltonian_1260 I did try putting my cell phone in the (unpowered) microwave and once the door was closed, service was gone.
@@psirvent8 well a microwave is quite the well faraday cage by design. After all you wouldn’t want to blast your house with a few kilo Watts of microwave radiation every time you use it.
I hope so too
Yeah, like if a container that the lock is on is in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. Perfect place to break into the lock...lol...open the container and find ...pencils...millions of pencils.
Solution: Add a shutter over the keyway that only opens when the lock has a solid cell signal and after the lock has sent a confirmed keyway shutter open message, and add a stopper that prevents opening when the keyway is turned, and only retracts if there is a cell signal, and only after it has sent a confirmed lock unlocked message. Dead battery solved with external power charge pins.
It still seems to be a good design and with a well type installation you would not be able to access the top of the lock. There are of course other ways in jamming a signal but I think that may be even more of a challenge as that signal won’t be sent until the lock has been opened.
Great job with the pick as always and also working past that false gate
I think LOL got it right: the lock is used for mobile items. It appears the lock is sized to fit into the pockets on construction site tool chests- and the GPS would let you know if the chest started moving after you’ve gone home.
His name is LPL, LPL. I mean LOL, LOL.
@@Bob3D2000 Would that be "Lock OPENING Lawyer?"
@@ottokiehl5413 Lock obliterating lawyer?
Why does it feel like LPL is preparing us for a dystopian/apocalyptic future where we'll all need to know how to pick locks in order to survive.
Kinda why I picked up the hobby, not only is it interesting and educational when it comes to security, but in a situation like that it's gonna be damn useful being able to walk through walls. After the last few years, I'm not taking any chances, if someone had described this timeline to me a decade ago I would have had them committed.
My building has MultiLock security locks, and watching you pick the equivalent open is truly amazing. Well done! 👍❤️😊
Your name is James Anderson but your pic is Smith
@@_BangDroid_ I get it all the time....Mr Anderson! That's why my avatar is agent Smith.
The military has a version of this one but the entire thing is inside of a metal case and what makes the whole military lock just a bit cooler is a door system that closes after you have the lock in place and then you have to pop-up the shackle to open the doors. The doors cover almost the entire shackle except for the area where it is connected to the hasp of the thing you want to lock up.
There are maybe a few hundred folk in the entire world who could open this lock in user 15 minutes, I'm hardly underskilled but it would take me that long. it's a good 'un
What if it is in contact all the time and only triggers the alarm when the contact is lost? The plastic shim would trigger it and also if you unplugged it from the lock trying to unplug the power.
The so called "dimple"/relief, is the determining factor here. When the lock is closed, the relief is breaking contact with the pin. This has the added benefit of using the battery more slowly over time, like turning a device off, than if the system was always in contact waiting for an interruption event.
I hope that makes sense!
So relaxing.
I did have a nice day thanks LPL!
Thats a cool idea by Multilock. You still make it look too easy picking it. :)
It is a 4min video! Very above average
It's really pretty cool. I'd like to see the electronics inside the main lock body. Can't be that bad. My GPS works inside the car under a layer or two of sheet metal.
Hey LPL, just curious, is there an FCC ID on the lock electronics anywhere? Often, we can get an inside view courtesy of the feds w/o having to remove a single screw.
LOL… I often look at FCC filings. They practically give you a roadmap for jamming wireless alarms and surveillance systems.
Nice hand print to smother the reflective surface of the lock as you finished picking :-)
I would love to see the creators of the locks reactions to your videos
That would be interesting to see if you can defeat the security: open it without triggering it (and without leaving a trace, so no jamming)
With a small faraday cage you could block it from sending a signal, so if you could find a way to pick it while it was inside that, you could pull it off.
@@Gkitchens1 Yeah but it would know it was open and broadcast it later.
Also, while inside the Faraday cage, the owner would loose its signal 🤷♂️
@@NicksStuff You assume to much! imo.
He did mention using a shim on the shackle would probably avoid the user from being alerted that the lock had been opened... No real need to go that far.
I'd like to see verification about the possibility that a plastic shim would completely defeat the so-called "nanny". The most complete exploit would be one that would cause it to send a false signal that it's secure (along with the location), when it's actually been defeated and is not longer secure, which would garner the highest CVSS score. Interrupting the signal would only be a minor exploit, as that should result in an alert being sent to the owner by the receiver, which would be worth testing as well, as that would result in significantly lower CVSS score. Only ensuring that the device sends a false secure would earn the maximum CVSS score.
plastic shim , cut the lock , leave it there ... no trigger , same locations .
was about to say the same: feraday bag, defeat lock, relock, take outside bag, leave...
@@NOTNOTJON slight issue with that is that these are probably going to be strapped as something like a transport container so getting a faraday cage or box or bag into the site where you're trying to cut the lock is going to be a bit difficult
Jamming the signal might result in an "unknown" condition but I doubt it would be as serious as an assumed defeat. Whether it pushes or pulls it's status, I would jam it, pick it, remove the battery and access whatever it protects, destroy the nanny by applying a current limited high discharge to the sim contacts, then reassemble and relock. It appears to the owner then that the device failed, and all they have is an approximate timestamp.
@@Shad2k8 Yeah, that's exactly what I expect. Cybersecurity people like to see practical demonstrations.
Could be an interesting tool for future use. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks LPL
“Cell phone and GPS jammers are common enough…” Next week LPL introduces a cell phone and GPS jammer that he and Bosnian Bill developed . 😀😀
@idicstinger666 so is picking a lock that’s not yours.
Highly?
After watching LPL I've learned to either just weld things shut or encase the valuables in a random location within a solid underground 20ftx20ft concrete block with lots of rebar support. I would also be sure to build a house on top of the valuables so they will never be stolen. You may ask how I plan to get the valuables back, and to that I will respond, the same way humans will walk on the surface of the sun, In a million years, maybe, hopefully...
Let me put it into perspective then: I've been picking for 5 years. About 3-4 hours a week on average. I'm a fairly good guitarist too, so my dexterity isn't sub-par. I take 10-12 minutes picking a lock similar to this (so 5 pin-in-pin style) if I haven't picked it in a while.... he is UNGODLY good.... The stuff he rakes, yeah sure, I can do that too. But he is 5-7 times faster with standard pin tumbler locks and easily 10-15 times faster with the exotic stuff.... That is, the exotic stuff I actually CAN pick. Some of the stuff he's picked has so nasty warding that I simply can't do it without constantly getting my pick stuck and end up giving up in frustration (I have a 30 minute time limit before I reset or put it away for the day).
@@andersjjensen You are making an assumption that LPL picks the lock in one try and in one take.
Basically, the video you are seeing is the finished product.
What really happens behind the scenes?
How many times has he tried to pick the lock before filming it?
How long did it really take to pick the lock the first time and how many failed tries?
Does he already know exactly how to pick the lock before picking the lock again on video?
Notice that he always already knows a lot about the lock at the beginning of the video.
Does it seem like he is following a well prepared script?
@@richardswit6988 I've seen him unwrap custom pinned high security locks with the keys mummified and pick them cold in 60 seconds or less, and he has taken first place in a number of picking contests a number of times. Furthermore: he is an active participant on r/lockpicking and have done collabs with other well known and high profile lock pickers. I know all this because I'm a reasonably experienced picker myself and I have eyes in my head: I can SEE how perfect his pick placement and tension technique is.... So no, I'm not making any assumptions. He is considered god-tier by many pickers much better than myself. He doesn't need to rehears a lock of this difficulty level. It's "just" a medium security Mul-T lock.
Just bought the genesis set from your website. Pretty excited.
Man I love Mul-T-Locks!!!!
I would love a video where LPL defines all his common terms, such as false set, bottom of the keyway tension, and the like
Always love your videos! Doubt I'll ever make it though all 1300+ but I'll try!
Ha ha. It doesn't take as long as you hope.
Man the way he breaks into locks makes every lock I look at feel vulnerable. So I would love to see a video about recommendations for home use. If it’s been posted already please let me know the title. Either way great videos!!
Great Video!
Isn’t that “piggyback” supposed to make contact with the hasp? When the lock open the circuit will break and the “piggyback” will know the lock is open. I imagine the defeat is a metal shim / jumper not a piece of plastic. Am I correct?
As I saw it, the contact sits in the dimple at the locked position, so is out of contact. As the shackle opens the contact hits the shackle
There is also not knowing what the security app running in that hardware is actually looking for. It's possible it has a "known good" resistance value that's reading across the entire device, so a metal or plastic shim would push the value out of the acceptable range. You see it in more than a few high-end security systems watching datalines/conduit/etc..., and wouldn't be difficult to use the same principle on this module even with a "random" pulse timer to reduce long-term power draw
And I was so sure there was going to be a magnet 🧲 involved.
An excellent moment for a collab between LPL and Big Clive!
I think the peace of mind comes with that if you have information about the exterior tracker and maybe an interior beacon; then you have more information about the cargo container than just what the shipping company provides.
If your exterior tracker fails while your interior beacon is active; likely you have a problem now.
When you call the lawyer to get out of jail and he comes with a Lock pick…
You must be new here
@@stevenpam No, they post the same joke on every single LPL video. I just report for spam.
@@abitofabitofabit4404 Oh, then it’s *me* who doesn’t read the comments in full!
Geez I thought maybe LPL got LOCKED OUT of his UA-cam account!
He would easily pick his way back into his account in a matter of seconds if that ever happens.
@@jvleugels In this case, lawyering might be the more important skill.
00:57 *"So it doesn't make sense to develop a solution without fully understanding the problem"*
LockPickingLawyer also being your LockPickingTherapist today.
Nice video - I'm worried my comments might sound otherwise. Thanks for this!
Now - well it took YOU a while to pick it so despite a cheap toy loosely clipped on to the lock it argues a good lock.
IMO if they are using electricity and sensors they should build it into the lock and:
1 - if there is messing inside the key entry and there's no chip in the key it detects a picking attempt - locks of the same brand would have a similar chip so not go to "Detects Picking attempt" but make note "Wrong Key" and give a few warnings first before -
2 - if there's breaking into the box, the lock body - picking attempt
3 - if the key is being turned but there are sensors that show there has to be pressure on two or three at once and these are changed between locks - picking attempt
On a picking attempt the lock kills itself and sends an alarm out. I'd have a fuse with a second batch of powder a circuit hits and it cuts all the wiring to the electronics if any can be used to open it. For a mechanical lock there needs to be some kind of hole in the shackle a second solenoid - or again a pin and powder charge - can ram into it, re-locking it. The lock is then screaming for help via alarm and digital signal and is dead - but whoever tried to pick it only wrecked the lock and sent an alarm out. Bad news is the lock is ruined but this fail would cause any real thief to run like a bunny at a fursuit convention.
A padlock with its own cell phone? It makes me nostalgic for simpler days, when only juice squeezers and coffee makers were Bluetooth-connected.
I've worked at a company where the coffemachine had a network connection, so the service company could get a message every time it needed a fill-up or a error message occur. The big downers, was the response time, when it was low on coffee.
Disappointed he didn’t mention both those tools are available on covert instruments 😞
That's like saying the sky is blue. Everyone knows that :)
Calm down boys it was a joke 😅
Great video
LPLs motions and dialogue would fit perfectly with that of a dentist! When picking the lock.
Question:
If this was attached to say a shipping container would it be as easy to pick?
ie would there be room to get that Z bar in or would it not lift up far enough away from the container?
Typically, real world conditions are re-created by virtue of the fact that LPL has to maneuver his arms into an awkward around-the-camera move, but that's still a good question. Some hasps prevent the lock from being twisted more than is needed to insert the key.
I see this more of an easy way to attach a GPS tracker. Like under a car
"It doesn't make sense to develop a solution without fully understanding the problem" - LockPickingLawyer 2021
Multi-pick vs Mul-T-lock. Love it.
You mentioned a "deep false set" here and in other videos. Exactly what does that mean and why is it used? If you already addressed this and other terms in a previous video could you let me know which video it is? I really enjoy your channel.
A false set is when the lock rotates more towards unlocking but does not unlock completely. Most of the time it's a sign that some pins are set and/or that some pins are spools and got stuck halfway (usually that's when you get counter rotation).
To expand on the comment above:
A "set" is when you're picking a lock and a binding pin reaches the shear line, giving you a tiny rotation of the core (and causing another pin to bind). A "false set" is caused when a spool (cotton-reel) shaped driver pin is across the shear line and, due to its smaller diameter in the centre, permits a small rotation of the core despite not being at the shear line. Hence a "false set". You'll hear LPL and other pickers talk about "counter-rotation" when picking spool pins too - this happens when a spool pin in a false set is raised to the shear line. Its larger end diameter causes the lock to have to go backwards a little from the false set position so that the end of the spool driver pin can pass. These are one type of security pin, and they make picking substantially harder.
You can find lots of videos on how lock picking works overall and how to pick spool pins online. Bosnian Bill, LockN00b and Deviant Ollam all have some, I think.
@@chemistrykrang8065
And we should note, spools tend to make it impossible to rake, zip or jiggle a lock open. Your only solution is single-pin picking like done here, or if the keyhole is big enough, use a comb pick.
Watch this video: DbpvTHQ46KM security pins make opening a bit harder for regular people.
@@DinnerForkTongue
Yes... electric pick guns, bumping, or old school impressioning can work on spools, though. Comb picks only work if the driver pins are too short, if the pins are properly sized they wouldn't work however open the keyway.
"This seems to be designed as a solution for things like shipping containers in transit." Not likely. Pretty sure this is something that would get put on a victim's car to track their location. It's essentially a tracking device that the victim won't be able to remove easily. Very scary. Not sure how easy they are to get ahold of and use.
Can’t they remove it easily by undoing the two screws that hold the gps backpack on, and flinging it into a river?
A pair of bolt cutters would do the trick. So would a cordless angle grinder. Also, cars generally don't have any hasps that this would fit... so where would you put it?
@@andersjjensen underneath clipped to the forward emergency tow hitch. Most cars have one.
Holy cow, that is the same style of key my gym uses on their doors, i had never seen one before and than LPL drops this in my lap.
This is a great idea! I'd love to see a closed shackle, beefed up version of this for motorcycle security
Has there ever been something you weren't able to pick lol
Yes I am curious as well. There has to be one that he had to spend more time on to develop tools etc
"if there's a hole, there's a way" also a hammer and magnet
Yes they're are a ton of locks he can't pick... "Yet"
There's one thing I can remember, he's unable to pick someone else's nose.
LPL had a series in the past where LPL received a couple of locks from bosnian bill that bosnian bill couldn't pick. Some of them LPL was able to pick, some he wasn't. The series was called something "box of shame"...