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- In his conversation with Skip Bayless and Joy Taylor, Shannon Sharpe breaks down why Julio Jones is a better MVP choice than Antonio Brown
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Shannon Sharpe explains why Julio Jones is a better MVP choice than Antonio Brown | UNDISPUTED
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Do you agree with Shannon?
Definitely, Julio is the best wideout
Julio Jones all day
Give me A.B. he can single handedly take over a game from any yard line on the field.. one catch can take it to the house and he doesn't need a 50 yard bomb pass to do it.. Greatness!!
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED yeah
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED AB gets more targets so course the stats will be in his favor
Julio gets no respect it’s disrespectful 🤦🏽♂️
Shimm G0d Gaming if he got no disrespect that would be respectful
Rusty Hussler lmao
Exactly, mfs tried to say OBJ was better. Julio is built like a linebacker and playing reciever.
Julio has never cried for not getting the ball
Julio Jones isn’t a state guy
He said himself he doesn’t care if he doesn’t get the ball aslong as the team gets the W
He doesn’t cry like Antonio Brown
Cam I've noticed that abolition. He's a man of few words.
Cam does that make him a better receiver or a better player? The argument isn’t who is the better overall player the argument is who is the best receiver which is AB
Brandon Bailey Julio is better has 3 plus 250 plus yard games something ab dont have
Cam AB doesn’t cry he just got frustrated on one play and now everyone’s calling him a diva
Cam I know AB got more 100 yards games than Julio so?????
If Julio got the targets Antonio got, this wouldn’t be a conversation
He did in '15 and lead the league in catches and yards we were a terrible team but Julio had a great season
Exactly
Phonso they tied in receptions.. he led in yards by 34.. and ab led in tds
Excuses. Maybe if Matt Ryan trusted Julio he would get them. He should stop dropping balls and be more consistent.
Zach Clover so with that logic aj green the best receiver he never get the ball thrown to him even less than Julio
Question: who’s the best wr?
Skip: dak Prescott
Or Sean Lee
@@mg19cal came here to say this
@@504gucci4 he LITERALLY swears by that dude for some reason
If the falcons didn’t choke Julio should have won super bowl mvp for that catch
Til dis day I ponder on what the falcons would have been if they won that SB
Arturo Garcia nothing without shanhan
Fax
Nah devonta freeman would’ve won it
Nah bro Matt Ryan had a passer rating of 144.1 and is the QB. And that catch was unreal but so was the throw.... Julio only had a few catches that game
Greg is wrong. Watch that super bowl again. Right before atlanta threw themselves out of game-winning field goal range, matty ice forced it to julio on the right sideline. He made a straight up stupid catch over and around a db, got his feet down, and got out of bounds. If atlanta runs it three times and kicks that field goal, julio would have been lauded for making one of the clutchest plays in an sb by a wideout ever.
No it wouldn’t be the clutchest play In a super bowl that would be Santonio Holmes vs Arizona SB 43
Owen Weston he said one of
timberwolfe338 id take david tyree or santonio holmes.
he threw the ball basically out of bounds over the defender and Julio still catches it. Greatness
timberwolfe338 that wasn’t a force bro Matty ice was under a ton of pressure but still Julio was the most open guy on the field and Matty ice knew he could make that throw since he was making them all the time that year during his mvp season
Here's something you can say about Julio, that you can't say about AB. He showed up against the Patriots.
TRU!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL!
And in all playoff games, Brown only has 2 touch downs in 9 playoff games, both in the same game too.
Nashawn Howard damn got him there lol
Um apparently neither can the falcons did you not watch the sb?
Josh Espinoza Julio was limited but still made key catches and had 5 catches for 87 yards
If julio gets fed the same way ab does he would have 2k season already
Baoweezzy this is facts. I told my homeboy Julio doesn't cry for the ball and somehow still have these 250 yard games soon as falcons decide to do it lls
Keyword "if" we talking about what's happening not what could happen
He has already had a 1900+ season
Baoweezzy 🎯
John Hawthorne yeah and that was the year where the falcons only had Julio. Roddy white and hardy couldn't make seperation at all that year. Julio was double to triple covered every game
It's crazy how Calvin Johnson was even BIGGER than Julio Jones.
Harry Bush i miss Megatron bruh
Megatron was probably the most athletic wr ever.
nitricdx Megatron 6'5 and what 230ish and yet for his size dude was incredible
Crazy huh
Julio is better than Megatron sorry.
Is anyone else watching this a few years later when AB is out of the league for going crazy and Julio is still consistent and balling out? Time is the true test😂😂😂😂
yeah was went from riviling julio jones to logan paul
Too be fair he’s not out because of his ability as a wr that being said I still think Julio better
And AB now caught a TD in the superbowl and has a ring :)
@@ATTACKERGAMING HAHAHA sheesh I came back to find this comment 🤣
Anyone watching this now that AB has a ring and Julio spent half the season injured
Skip really hates the Falcons smh
Cam no it’s just ab is better than julio
zone Julio is better than ab do everything he can do time 10
He's just salty the Falcons went to the SB over the Cowboys.
Skip hates everyone that isnt Tom Brady
@@jackdizon3286 or Cowboys lol
How about we agree they are both better than OBJ
DG obj is overrated. Id take edelman or demarious thomas over him
Chronic Kid I agree he is overrated but bro..... Thomas and edleman aren’t even top 10 receivers
Ive seen more out of edelman than obj😂
There we go someone that respects Demaryius Thomas
Chronic Kid lmao okay kid
Matt Ryan spreads the ball around so he's not getting the ball nowhere near as much
Exactly! When they double Julio they leave sanu opens doors gets targeted. They double ab they still feed ab regardless.
Makaveli X then how come I see juju get the ball a lot and bryant some as well? Not to mention le'veon Bell? I see the ball spread around just fine.
www.steelers.com/team/statistics.html.
Check the WR stats
lmao. bell has 61 rec. hes like another receiver for us. not to mention our 2nd wr is only 13 rec away from sanu, and hes missed a couple games and is a rookie. lol -
9:41 that comment did not age well Skip 💀
Julio James is the goat (look at the poll 😂)
Julio Jones is the best wr in the league, coming from a dolphins fan 🤝🐬.
Julio. AB is great, I think he’s 2nd. But I think a lot of his numbers look better cause of the way the Steelers use him. They force him the ball (mainly on Ben), whereas Matt Ryan just looks for the best possible match up or whoever may be open on any play. That could be cause Ben doesn’t trust his other WR’s as much as Ryan trusts his, but they’re both great. Clearly the best and 2nd best WR’s in the game. But 6’3, 220lbs, 4.3 40 speed with great hands and can run the entire route tree, wide catch radius, good perimeter blocker, great RAC..... that’s just hard to pick against.
100% agree, this is the same argument I was trying to make in earlier comments. The Falcons and Steelers are different teams with different schemes...
THISSS 100% agree. If Julio is targeted like AB he'll destroy Calvin's record. The man is not human. He's almost as dominant as Calvin
Al Rooker Too bad he'd get hurt with the same production... Your best ability is availability. He's hurt too much...
Matt Ryan look for the best time to throw INT lol
Aquil S AB is consistent, that’s why he gets the ball a lot, and he doesn’t drop wide open game winning passes
Julio is the clear cut best current receiver.
Chris Brown nope
Stats say otherwise
Chris Brown finnaalllyy someone smart who has sense I been lookin
Even though Antonio Brown's stats are better?
People honestly just look at Julio’s freak athleticism. They don’t look at technique which AB blows Julio away
Julio James is the best WR in NFL history!!!!! 110% for sure!!!
No. Jerry Rice is.
Sheer talent alone? Randy Moss
If we talking about catching the ball I give it to larry Fitzgerald.
I wouldn’t say best in history but he’s if definitely top 10
@@avianturnip if we consider who his QB's were i think he's top 5 easily. He is top 3 at the very least to me.
Randy moss had better QB's for longer than Larry. That's saying something because randy didn't have the best QB's but Larry had them even worst
Let me find out that Skip is 5'6, 142lbs on tv talking all loud...
Blake Patterson 😂😂😂 im done
HE IS 5'10"...
Look at photos of him next to Shannon and Magic and others. He is around 5'10". But maybe he wears lifts, and it was interesting that Shannon said Skip is 5'6" and Skip didn't even protest it.. hmmm
Why would he protest it? It doesn't matter.
I’m in 7th grade 6;0 150 😂
I'm a steelers fan so this may be biased. But other than the locker room incident & the incident where he was wide open on a 3rd down; what has warranted AB as a "diva"? For the past 5 years AB is the most consistent & productive WR in the NFL today, & it's not even close. 5 straight 100 catch seasons. 5 straight 1,200 yard seasons (6 total). 8+ TD's 5 straight seasons. AB has better hands & yard after the catch ability... AB is doing what all 6'2+ receivers should be doing & he's only 5'10. Not to mention if you follow him on social media he is by far one of the most hardest working WR's off the field. Julio is amazing, yes. But you don't have to shade AB to praise Julio.
RihannasBabyDad he complains about not getting the ball every drive lol
Luke Haslam false you assume that based off one play in one game but so does every other person who needs to dig for a reason why AB isnt the best
Actually watch Antonio Brown during the games. He's always whining and complaining about everything, he doesn't throw big tantrums, but when he doesn't get the ball he always makes some kind of scene
lmaoo julio has less catches and damn near as many yards
Preebs not really impressive if any receiver with over 700+ yards had that game they would’ve reach 1000 easily and AB still over 100 yards ahead
Watching this back years later "ABs cool he ain't Odell" oh how badly this aged 😂
Looking back this is even better
Julio
1. class act
2. Speed, size , strength
3. Doesn't cry like a baby
4. Doesn't drop passes
5. Doesn't care about stats
6. eats Wings ....
7.Carried falcons for the last 6yesrs
Julio doesn't even get the ball as much as Julio but Julio is the all time leader in yards per game! Julio is the best hands down!
U sound stupid asf read what u wrote
I meant Julio doesn't get the ball as much as AB. Chill out little kid!
Typical Julio fan. They can't even write coherent sentences let alone judge wide receivers. L
Sideline Spotlight shut your mouth little kid!
Calling me a kid is childish. Ironic.
that julio Superbowl catch. Antonio disappears in the playoffs but not julio
ken buck Facts
ken buck lol but what happen in the super bowl ? Ok then.
zone lol 617 strong here guy. i love the pats. he did everything right in the game. but they've got the choker in Matt Ryan
ken buck Matt Ryan and Julio both didn't choke the coaching staff did and the pats just played out of their mind in the 4th
zone you obviously didn't watch the game, because anyone trying to downplay Julio's catches in that game doesn't know what they're talking about
Who’s here now when ab isn’t even in the nfl, trying to have a boxing match. while Julio out here beastin
Lol when Shannon said "you little too" to skip had me dead 😂💀
Julio is better hands down. AB gets waaaay more targets, Ben is forcing it too much. The numbers I care about are playoffs numbers:
Julio Jones:
6 games, 55 tgt, 43 rec, 639 yds, 5 TD, 78% catch
AB:
9 games, 70 tgt, 44 rec, 705 yds, 2 TD, 62,8% catch
In 3 games more played AB has just 1 more rec, and 66 more yds. Julio has 3 MORE TDs, and way better %, and is an athletic freak.
We not gonna talk about how AB was a third string WR his first year in the playoffs? 🤔🤔
Pablo Juan he sucked that much? Wow.
Pablo Juan Don't count AB's first playoff appearance and the gap is even bigger.
You’re cherry picking stats, bruh. Overall, over the course of their careers, AB gets an average of 5 more targets a season than Julio, 131 to 126. That’s nothing - less than 1 target over every three games. But again, you’re using the fact that AB gets open more often to propose that JJ is a better receiver. Doesn’t make sense.
Plus, AB catches 67% of his targets, JJ 64%.
Pablo Juan The fact that AB wasn’t the first option his first two years makes it even more impressive that he has the most receptions in NFL history over his first six years and is the fastest receiver in NFL history to 650 and 700 receptions.
julio jones best WR in the NFL
U cant say just because hes a physical freak you take that outta the equation ? Makes no sense. Hes antonio brown route tree and doesnt need 10 catches a game to get same yard sticky gets. 3 different 250 yd games
The point about Matt Ryan not forcing the ball makes a lot of sense, and Big Ben is a gunslinger. I'll take Julio.
10:40..."What about that 300. That don't tell you he gotchu?" Lmbo🤣🤣🤣 Preach!!
JULIO EASY! Julio said doesn't care about stats. He just wants to win, any way possible. Plus forcing the ball could
be bad.
Zig Zag the thing is AB wins more so Julio should try and figure out some of what AB ddoes
DrugLord Tyrone Julio don’t care about stats??? I didn’t know you spoke with Julio and he said that tf damn near all elite players cares about getting their numbers up he just quiet don’t push narrative that’s not true
Funfun6000 you obviously hasn't watched any of he's interview he has said several times he doesnt care if he's not getting the ball as long as we get the W. All he cares about is getting the win. Julio job is not to just make plays and get TDs he also draws coverage away from the many other weapons we have and he knows it. He knows we have other guys that can get the ball in the end zone. He has said it several times unlike AB when he doesn't get the ball Julio knows he's team didn't forget about him
Just about every receiver says that. Not saying it's not true, but watch him start complaining if he doesn't get those targets anymore or the ball isn't going his way.
Zig Zag Antonio has better stats and his team has a better record. Your argument is invalid and stupid.
Julio Jones has weeks where he is a non factor. Antonio brown will consistently put up 100 yards for you and is the ultimate clutch receiver with one of the best hands, quickness and the best sideline toe taps ever, not to mention extreme durability and he's leading his team to a winning record.
Navraj Goraya Julio is always a factor. Watch the All-22 after games. Coverage is always tilted towards his side of the field. Always. That means other guys get Man to Man opportunities. That’s a huge factor for an offense. And again, Matt Ryan doesn’t think like “I’m throwing it to Julio regardless of what coverage they’re playing or who else may be open.” Ben approaches the game that way at times.
Aquil S yes. They literally go into games where they just use Julio was a decoy. Some of those multi int games Big Ben has is because he tries to force AB the ball.
Navraj Goraya that's what happens when u play in the weak was afc and cry for the ball
Aquil S AB gets double covered every game? Sometimes even triple covered? So what exactly is your argument again?
To julio an OK game is about 90 yards but when he has a good game he has about 250 , 300 when has antonio had 300 ...what was that? Never ? Oh ok 👌
look at Antonio now, lmfaooo julio is the best damn receiver to ever play the game!
So since Julio's rookie year until ABs last year w Steelers AB leads in nearly every category and almost doubles him up in TDs, what's the discussion?
Antonio Brown is more consistent. But for a 1 game scenario I'm taking Julio he's just too big and fast to guard for a whole game
So y’all gonna tell me that if Julio was a steeler and AB was a falcon that Julio wouldn’t of put 90 plus catches and 10 plus TDs every year so the stats you can’t compare cuz Matt doesn’t force feed Julio 20 targets a game like Ben do AB
Kyle Ferguson u get it. Julio Jones is a freak. It's mind boggling how he doesn't cry for the ball and has all these nfl wr records
Kyle Ferguson facts bro!
Yea but even when you know he's getting the ball you can't stop him. Julio has been a non factor in some games this season. AB is consistent.
Marquise Johnson not a non factor, the games you say non factor our other players have better games, HES A DECOY MOST GAMES AND STILL Has many NFL RECORDS
Kyle Ferguson
Time for Shannon To address his hate for Pittsburgh this been brewing for awhile now. I love Shannon tho #SteelersNation
deangelo williams he played for the Ravens of courae he hates Pittsburgh, just like he hates kansas city and Oakland cause he was a bronco
I’m taking AB all day. Business is bOOmin’
What makes Julio Jones one of the greatest wr in the game is his deep beliefs in being a terrific teammate while putting in work himself. This young man has to be the most humbled human being in all of sports hands down. #Leadership💯
My current dream WR corp would be Julio Jones, AJ Green, and Fitz. Amazing receivers, but also they are not anywhere close to selfish. Antonio is great obviously. 2nd best WR in the league, but what Julio does baffles me. When you see games where he doesn't go off for monster numbers, he still makes an impact. You literally see almost the entire defense shift over to his side! He makes the other receivers better and obviously, Matt Ryan better. And also Julio got them to the Super Bowl, and his amazing catch should've won that game. So he actually shows up in big moments
boy was Shannon right!!!
He explained Julio Jones perfect the best wide receiver ever
I agree with Shannon I think he's amazing and I also think he's a great role model. He's very professional and humble and a team player and he does the things that get you glory and the things that don't at the same level. He's not always producing the same each game but I think that also has to do with the difference in the way they play. Julio takes a lot of hits he runs extremely fast he jumps for nearly uncatchable balls etc. I think he takes more of a beating and that's why he can't produce the same every game but at the same time when he's fit he can do more than anybody.
As of today, AB leads Julio in career stats by exactly 1000 yards, 155 receptions, 193 targets, 16 touchdowns and a season since Julio started a year later with injuries causing him to miss games throughout his career...Julio, like AB shows up when he is called but no drama, and he doesn’t force Ryan to target him limiting his ability to pass the ball...I’ll take Julio as my guy
Julio Jones is the best since Calvin Johnson and randy moss idc wat nobody say Julio is the best
#RISEUP
28-3
last time I checked a pigeon has never been in the Superbowl lol
It's actually been a while since I saw someone comment 28-3. Silly me thinking people had moved on with their lives.
lol right and he ain't got a response haha
All of y’all saying Julio is struggling this year clearly haven’t watched Falcons games. Matt Ryan has been struggling to conduct this offense under Steve Sarkisian, there have been times where he’s thrown into double coverage to a 5’10 Taylor Gabriel and TE Austin Hooper.
This is for all of the people that think Julio is better than AB. AB was a 6th round draft pick and when he was a rookie the Steelers still had HINES WARD, EMANUEL SANDERS, AND MIKE WALLACE. He couldn’t just start right away. He had to work his way up to the starting spot. Julio Jones was a first round pick. He starting getting receptions right away. It’s crazy how AB is leading in all of these stats since he was a rookie. It just shows how great he really is. Everyone says Julio is better because he is bigger, stronger, and faster but AB is only 5’10 180lbs and still has better stats than Julio. AB has been the best receiver for the last 5 years no question. AB is so consistent. You know he will be clutch and have great numbers every game throughout the season. Plus he is a huge threat in special teams. He is just an all around better player. I wouldn’t be surprised if Julio has 50 yards next game. And don’t blame his bad games on the rest of their offense. They have the last years NFL MVP. AB has a QB that doesn’t even know if he wants to play anymore and retire. I’d take the future hall of famer, AB any day. #BusinessIsBoomin #CallGod 8x4=32...
Where were all these “julio is the best wr” comments the rest of the year? This is his first great game of the year and now he’s the best? lol y’all something else
Check falcons post game highlights on NFL YT channel. Always see them there
We’re were the “ab the best comments” last year when Julio was crushing him
Vinichi lll it was still said that AB was better just not by as much people. But we talking bout this year not last
- - AB was never better lmao stop it
Vinichi lll how was Julio crushing him?
Julio going down as one of the greatest ever . If he didn't get tripled covered ever other play his numbers would look like AB's also
Lisa Wilson 100% true
Lisa Wilson triple coverage only Happens in Hail Mary situations so therefore AB and Julio both get double covered
Great segment, barbershop talk. I love it.
If we're playing fantasy football, I would take Antonio Brown because of his usage and the team's game plan. If I were a coach building a team or needed a game winning drive, I would take Juilo over Brown any day. In reality, numbers don't tell the whole story in sports and least of all in football. Most RBs, QBs, and WRs like their own stats, but when you're splitting hairs like these guys said, stats are not how you judge the top 5 players at a position alone, that's what scouting is for, to see what they can do. Juilo > Brown.
Juilo is capable of bigger things than any WR in the league. Doesn't mean he does it every day because the falcons want to win. They'll use him to draw 3 guys away from a run. Or use him to block. Which he is pretty good at. He is just as fast. They both have great hands but Juilo has the bigger wingspan and harder to bring down when you hit him. What makes Brown great is his routes and how he creates separation with his speed and cuts. Juilo can do it all. He'll he can even tackle better if Ryan throws an INT. That's your best WR in the league guys
No one argues Julio the best all year you know why? Cause he is SO inconsistent compared to AB. The only time people are willing to argue it is when he has a 200+ yard. Give me AB all day cause he will CONSISTENTLY give you crazy plays, crazy catches, and game winning plays. AB is gonna be on the field every play and every game. Wait til they get older and when we see the speed disappear and AB is still getting open because of his route running and Julio falls off the map cause his physical attributes disappear this argument is gonna sound stupid
Very consistent guy I’ll take him any day
Matt Ryan doesn’t force the ball to him
Alright i guess it's impossible to understand that if Julio was thrown as much and wined as much when he didn't get the ball .. man goat seriously
Julio isn't inconsistent. He just doesn't get the targets that AB gets because he's not a drama queen like AB. Julio is the clone of Megatron.
If Julio gets the same amount of targets as AB, this wouldn't be a topic. The difference is Matty Ice doesn't force feed Julio like Big Ben does AB.
Julio James lmaoooo
To all those people talking about Ben forces the ball to AB, and that if he got Antonio targets, he'd get 2500+ yards and he'd crush Antonio. Except we've already seen this. 2015, Julio had 203 targets, 136 catches, 1871 yards, and 8 touchdowns. Same year, Antonio had 193 targets, 136 catches, 1834 yards, and 10 TDs. Not only that, AB is flat out better at catching the ball, with Antonio having 2 70% or more catch percentage seasons with above 100 targets to Julio's zero. Additionally, the last time Julio caught a larger percentage than Antonio was in 2013, and even that deserves an asterisk. I'm 2013, Antonio caught the ball 65.9% of the time compared to Julio's 69.5%. Except in 2013, Julio only played 5 games, with 59 targets and 41 catches. In comparison, Antonio had 167 targets and 110 catches. Basically, if you discount the season where he only played five games, Antonio has routinely caught more passes on higher targets, and the one season where Julio had more targets, he only had 37 more yards (though he did have more yards on the same amount of catches) and 2 less touchdowns with identical number of receptions. I like Julio. He's an excellent receiver. But let's face it. When it comes to actually being a receiver, Antonio is just better. What makes it even worse is that Julio is freakishly athletic and take than average for his position. AB is barely above average in height and weight for men period, with pretty average athleticism for his position, yet here we are debating who's better. If we're talking hypotheticals, if AB had Julio's physical gifts or if Julio had the same height, weight, and athleticism as Antonio, this wouldn't even be a debate. It'd be even worse if you switched their pre draft measurables.
watching this in 2020 this conversation is hilarious
Skip and Greg made literally zero sense on this topic.
skips playing the opponent to Shannon that's what this show is lol
I say AJ Green he is stuck with Dalton not saying bad about Andy but if AJ had Brees Luck Big Ben he would get 1800yds every year and 15+ tds
R C3 facts
R C3 not luck hee always hurt
Mashaun Montgomery he’s played the same amount of games as Julio that was only last season stop saying BS
I would take Julio over Green, But I would take Green over Brown.
R C3 Lmao
I’m taking Drew Brees over Tom Brady Idc
Facts!
Julio.. next question
Finally, someone who gets it.
ronny lopez AB
Lol you can't even argue that. Every Stat goes toward AB
JULIO over AB
Isiah Thomas nope
Stats...look at em
Parris Collazo-woods yes
Isiah Thomas #Facts
Prime Time stats ? Okay right so look at those 20 plus games AB has over Julio
Before Juju Smith-Shuster, who was the other wide receiver for Pittsburgh? AB was their main threat. Matt Ryan has an arsenal to spread the ball around to. He doesn't have to catch 11 balls to get 100 yards in a game.
As a football fan, I'm jus happy to witness two of the best WR in the game.
Sean lee is the best wide receiver in the nfl
As a pure receiver Julio prob better. But AB was the most productive and “greater receiver” in that stretch
julio has more yards per game in a career than anyone else
@@kevinharper9467and AB kills julio in TDs.
Kills Julio in TD’s in “20 less games played’
Julio Jones doesn’t get the ball as much as AB but still has amazing stats close to his. Julio is the perfect size, no drama, clutch, has speed. AB wants stats, Julio wants to win and doesn’t want to be the only player targeted. Julio is way more respectable he’s a great guy who does his job quietly.
People who support ab: statistics and consistency
People who support Julio: HE BIG AND FAST
"Julio reminds me of t.o. but faster" 😕WTF wrong with Shannon lately, he's out his mind. Dude plays nothing like t.o.
BlkLatin he meant body wise there similar TO 6'3 220ish Julio also 6'3 and around 220ish
Give me the silent assassin... Julio..
Everyone forgets how strong AB is. To make it to the AFC championship he stood his ground against 3 defenders and reached the ball across the plain. Showing strength and determination. He’s clutch, saying that Julio Jones is a monster but I don’t think he’s better than AB
I want them to revisit this segment.
So Julio is better than AB, but AB puts up better numbers every year🤔
Edit: For all of you saying AB gets targeted more, if he has more targets does that mean he gets open more than Julio? AB has 80 receptions while the other 7 receivers that have caught a ball from Ben on the Steelers have 170. Julio Jones has 65 receptions from Matt Ryan while the other 12 receivers who have caught a ball from Ryan have 179. That’s barely a difference for you people saying “the falcons spread the ball out more” And 4 of those falcons receivers have 2 or less receptions. That means the Steelers and Falcons spread the ball around almost EQUALLY and Pittsburgh has more rushing attempts and yards as well. In conclusion stop using the argument “AB is the only one Big Ben targets” because that information is false. Antonio Brown targets: 116, Julio Jones targets: 101. Basically a one game difference in targets. In conclusion although brown has 15 more targets (He gets open more in double coverage than Julio) he has been way more productive and consistent overall and both teams spread the ball about evenly. Brown>Julio.
Chrome not every year, but its not always about number
Maty ice Dos what do you mean it’s not about the numbers? How do we measure players success? By their numbers. Maybe if Julio had a little more attitude and pulled Matt Ryan aside during the Super Bowl and told him to throw it to him more, maybe they would’ve won the Super Bowl
MsMrapplepie no falcons still would have not won due to the shannnhan bad calls
MsMrapplepie you are dumb
+MsMrapplepie, Only an idiot that doesn't understand the game thinks numbers are all that matters when it comes to comparing players.
Fact check: AB has 126 targets compared to Julio's 101 and with 25 more targets he only has 150 more yards to show for it. If Julio had 25 more targets, assuming he kept the same catch rate (62%x25 targetsx15.7 yards per catch), he'd have 1,284 yards right now, almost 100 yards more than Antonio
If you do the same math for last season : Julio had 83 catches on 129 targets= 64% catch rate. 64%x 155 targets (How many target AB had) x 17 yards per catch (Julio's average per catch) you get 1,695 yards. That's more than 400 yards more than Antonio. Julio by the way, still led the league in receiving last year and had 200 yards more than AB despite the "best receiver" AB getting way more targets than him.
Julio produces more per touch than Antonio. That's because he's *more talented* than Antonio. Bigger, faster, stronger, can run every route as good as Antonio and can run better after the catch than Antonio. Julio can dominate games in a way AB can't, and that's no knock on AB because no one in the history of the league has done what he's doing. He has more 250+yard games than *ALL HALL OF FAME RECEIVERS COMBINED* . He averages the most yards per game *in league history* . He's been to two conference championships and put up 180 yards and 2 TD's in both of them, *the only player in league history to do that* . He has the most catches, yards, and 100 yard games in the first 90 games of a career. The guy walks his talk and sets records while he does it. Julio>AB
Mithrandir Damn this is a amazing post. All facts.
Mithrandir why do you think he has 25 more targets he gets open more than Julio does it’s not hard to understand. Every Julio fan just says “I would rather have the 6 foot 4 225 pound receiver over the 5 foot 11 180 pound receiver”. Antonio has been more productive and consistent for the past 5 years and he is on pace to make that 6. Plus he’s leading the NFL in receiving yards. They are both great but I would take AB over Wholio anyday 😂
@Gerardo Abrego AB gets more targets because because Ben forces the ball to him more. @ 4:23 both Greg Jennings and Shannon Sharpe agree that Matt Ryan doesn't force the ball to Julio as much as Ben does to AB. Jennings says "Matt Ryan, he doesn't force it to him. So I don't even think we will see the true greatness of Julio Jones because of that factor." That statement in itself is an admission that Brown gets the ball forced to him more. Julio wasn't even utilized to his fullest capability because he's a team player and realizes that spreading the ball around makes the TEAM better- oh and he STILL led the league in receiving. Ben misses Brown one time and he throws a temper tantrum on the sideline, and throws Ben under the bus in the process because Ben has to answer questions about why he missed Brown in the post game press conference.
Mithrandir a.b has more catches becuase hes open more even though he gets more double coverage than julio. Julio could have more catches had he catches the ball.
Jones can have thr yards but he doesnt score. A.b does. And .a.B gets yards
AB>jones
@ 4:23 both Greg Jennings and Shannon Sharpe agree Ryan doesn't force the ball to Julio as much as Ben does to Brown. Jennings: "Matt Ryan, he doesn't force it to him. So I don't even think we will see the true greatness of Julio Jones because of that factor."
One isn’t better than the other. They’re two different players that bring two different skill sets to the game and are both great in different ways.
Uncle Shay you are spot on!
Julio James for MVP
It's close but I'll take AB over Julio. Julio is only better at catching over a defender. Everything else AB is better. Julio has big 200 yard games, but AB is always good in every game and much more efficient.
MATT RYAN DOES NOT FORCE THE BALL TO HIM
Alexander Parker exactly. People don't get that Big Ben tried to throw to him all the time. He doesn't spread the ball as !uch as Matt does
Man julio has 38 100 plus yard games and he learned from Tony Gonzales and toddy white and is the most dominant receiver in the game and still broke 90 game receptions and yards julio all day
Tong Vang actually ab is a better jump ball catcher then julio
zone you on drugs
AB is better just because of the simple fact of the steelers offense and Le’Veon carries along with the fact that the man without Ben puts up the same numbers with backup quarterbacks ... we never seen Julio put up numbers without Matt Ryan
12:30 Shannon was thinking: "Damn, Joy you look good enough to eat!"
Me watching this Oct 2022 ... Idk why
I’d rather have a receiver who can get me to the 25yrd line/red zone in crucial moments. ( AB ) I’d rather have a receiver whome I can throw into my special teams and utilize him as a punt returner and give me a good spot to start my drive. ( AB ) I’d rather have a receiver who week in week out shows up and isn’t listed as questionable. Buisness is Boomin!!! 🔸♦️🔹
Like when it boomed against the Jags
Pimpsta Poe 19 targets 10 receptions 157 yrds and you call that boomed? 😂
... JJ > AB
albert horta 5 interception and you lost to the jags great stat padding lol
Wow. This actually was a great discussion
Julio averages 9.7 targets a game Antonio Brown averages 9.5 in their respective careers
I seen Julio come back on a bootleg and reach over 2 ny giants defenders to cath the rock I take Julio..
AB been consistent all year. Julio shows up one game and now he's MVP?
man ofsteel he’s top 3 in yards, so how has he only showed up once?
Brown was totally consistent against the Jaguars.
Not a Falcons fan but its clear you've never watched a Falcons game in your life.
Zach Williams Dude ab is more consintent than jones look at the number for last 5 years who has better number antonio does
Pimpsta Poe he was... 158 yards
It's just so funny how odell Beckham Jr QB was Eli Manning but when we bring odell in the conversation for best WR everyone says he didn't prove anything yet.
They are both pretty damn good.You can’t guard these guys 1on1
If I was an NFL CB Julio would put more fear in me than Antonio.
Zach Williams ok?
zone OBJ wouldn't put fear in anyone
Pimpsta Poe facts..with OBj all you have to do is get in his head, make him cry & get a tantrum lol.
And he would toast you😂
And you'd get torched by AB because he is nearly always open.
Julio Jones > Antonio Brown
If Calvin Johnson was still playing he definitely was the best wide receiver in the league by far
The ball is forced more to brown because the other receivers don't show up most game. Eli rogers, Vance MacDonald and Bryant have dropped crucial catches. Brown answers the bell especially in clutch situations. It's even more impressive that he's half the size and doing these things. Defenders know brown is getting it, they double cover him and yet he still makes plays.
The only reason AB has more yards is because Julio is not forced the ball as much because the falcons have more wide out weapons so the falcons don't need to only throw the ball to Julio may be a little biased since I am a falcons fan
DG the receivers on the Steelers are more expensive then the falcons receivers so that’s false in my opinion
Falcons don't have any weapons besides Julio.. Are u dumb
You can't have 1 great game and be better than the most consistent wr in the league foh
yall have to be dumb wr is based on how much YOUR THROWN THE BALL
SquidisLit THANK YOU! I’m not even a steelers fan
SquidisLit Julio dominat every fuccin year wat football y’all watch
SquidisLit thank you
SquidisLit One game? Well how come he's the only WR ever to have 3 games with 250+ receiving yards? Yeah AB is a bit more consistent but overall I think he's a very close second to Julio.
No GM, Coach, Offensive Coordinator, or Quarterback is going to take AB over Julio. That’s all the evidence you need!
I think it’s also important that the two QBs have different play styles. If Julio is a bigger man than that gives AB a disadvantage. I think AB is better but it’s soooooo close.