The main problem of pvp in this game is how fast characters move, you literally cant hit anyone using for example a katana unless its a running charge attack
i always thought they could slow down sprint speeds or at least accelerating. they did do it years ago but more of a buildup of speed would be nice to combat running away
Just skill issue, many ways to cripple then roll, cancel animation to get katana out of your roll, spam light attacks, you will touch most of time if you fast enough, Im on console and still able to cancel weapons animation when we have to press 3 différents buttons without missing to take a weapon during the roll animation. If you pc you just have 1 button to press during the roll
@@SynoGz That's awesome. Now, all you have to do is work on the other part. The game you say you quit left such an impression that you are still talking about it.
@@atenubi people are free to care about things and have opinions, and not playing doesnt mean he has to stop caring. this childish ultimatum type logic is very telling.
Making spear worse doesn't make the rest of the weapons better. They are still completely unviable due to poorly designed movesets (and, of course, the terribly balanced roll system).
As long as infinite stamina, no god bubbles, and everything being piss easy to get are still in the game, the game's busted and not worth the time investment. Shame too, game had great potential and had the best pvp out of all survival games.
no god bubble was a good change. too many unraidable bases. i would prefer every base being able to get wiped easily than a few busted base spots (like gutter)
bro couldnt have said it better myself. They ruined the game by fucking stamina. for no reason. GG one of the best game to ever exist. Bring back age of sorcery PvP
So many things could have been done to gradually refine the system that was already in place. Now we have combat with no combos, no grey stamina, no aiming... it's ridiculous.
Its nice to know that we will start to see other weapons arround again besides the spear, I dont mind too much about the lock target, many "good" players on CE use hacks, among them, maybe the oldest and hardest to detect, was the aimbot, not many players can realise how easy is to hack this days on CE, so for the lock target...just take it like For Honor and atleast we all have it regardless of if we chose to use it or not, I think it was a positive update after watching your video and its hard for me to say it because I trully think that funcom is one of the worst company that I know behind what could be the biggest survival sandbox out there so far, maybe after this they can fix the diference between heavy and light armors because I still see light armors taking more damage than heavy armors...I just cant belive that 2-5 players per server are hacking, im quite surprised cuz some reports I made were actually successful . Stamina I dont think is a problem, its diferent from before but I think everyone is used to it now and, in my opinion took the fighting to a higher level. Anyways I dont agree with your thoughts in many aspects, but thanks for the video, nice information and footage. Have a nice 1 :)
Massive disagree on stamina. The current stamina system makes rolling practically unpunishable. Nerfing spear doesn't make the rest of the weapon cast any better; they still have terribly designed movesets that are completely unviable in PvP. The only difference is now people will just go pure bow instead of bow-spear. They need to fix their roll mechanics to be punishable, and rework all weapon movesets to be viable at roll catching + vortexing opponents. Idk how they fucked up rolls this badly, just model the roll system after Ds3 and you have a punishable roll that still works as a strong defensive tool.
@@draelos8570 I think in my opinion they gonna change the rolling animation that adapts with the stamina system Just watch in a year Conan will be a replica of elden rings combine with for honor😂😂and I’m all down for it💪💪
@@draelos8570 To me the game is challenging in pvp, don't bother me at all the Stamina change because is the same to all, its equal to everyone, but if you want to use another weapon outside of the spear 80% chance you will lose and 80% I think is being your friend...I agree that the mecanics of many weapons should be reworked after age of war but the nerf on spear im happy about it. I don't really like to play spear and like me must be many that were forced to use it because there is no match for it atm in my opinion
Spears are top dog. Spears get nerfed. Not great axes are top dog. So they will nerf those next. Then daggers will be top dog. Then they will nerf daggers. Then 1hand axes and greatswords will be top dog. Then they will nerf those too. Soon there will only be punching
slowing spear heavy was necessary, it's been the number 1 consistent meta for at least the 4 years i've been playing the game. Being able to turn mid-attack didn't create the problem, it just exacerbated it. hate these latest changes to turning though, it's gonna feel fucking awful
Distance will always be meta. If you can hit someone while they can't hit you, it doesn't really matter how little damage you do. The problem with Conan is that even if you close the gap on someone using a spear, they aren't vulnerable like they would be realistically. Spear should be meta, but rely on precise strikes and maintaining enough distance between you and your opponent.
@@itskacey8444 Distance is only the clear, outstanding meta if speed isn't adjusted for, but now it finally will be adjusted for. Spear light doesn't have the same reach as spear heavy. Spear's no doubt still gonna be strong, and in teamfights it'll still be a key part of the meta, but it absolutely does not need to be the all-encompassing, universal meta that it is now and has been for years. Look at other pvp melee games: reach does not need to be the king, there's plenty of examples of other, more interesting shit out there that isn't "poke fast, accurately and from far away"
@Adam-th7qt other games have counters, weapon clashes, clear advantages and disadvantages to short range vs long range weapons, and pathways to make both successful. Conan's combat system is too rudimentary to properly balance range.
Look at Naraka: Bladepoint gameplay, and you'll see what I mean. Spears have reach you can play around, greatswords have slow, aoe attacks you can play around, dual blades have quick bursts you can play around. Every weapon has advantages and disadvantages. Combat in Conan basically just who can swing big stick to do damage and not get hit by big stick coming other way. Bigger stick is good. Stick that flies through the air is best.
amazing spear changes!!!! Been hating that freaking thing for yers! The only thing left is to remove infinite roll capability. Like what the hell is this? the game used to punish U for making a mistake and as a consiquence U had to roll, now game punishes U for attacking!!!
I hate so much, the new animation in what real History data spear use that circle attacks. How dump is new emotes. Spear meant to be a precisely front attack with reach and fast than many others weapons. Search on internet spear has to be meta as daggers
In that case claws should have movement as daggers they are useless too. Daggers still op and they don't see that. I mean.... I hate this changes like a lot
that wasnt really a cohesive sentence there bud. but, ill extrapolate. Spears historically win wars because they cost very little metal to make and can be given to a group on novices and be effective on a large scale melee due to the wall of pokey pokes. They also, do shit for damage compared to other weapons due to their use case and designe. they are also, extremely bad at close quarters combat and are individually very slow since most spears would be 8-16ft long. you wana see spinny spear stuff look at any asian short pole or spear fighting btw, its very comman what most would call "monk" stuff.
maybe this comment is out of date but I try to catch up! but I think combat as of todays date is very good for pvp ; when that is said I would like to see some spear changes i terms of making it somewhat viable again ; but I am glad to see other weapons in pvp now :)
Ok so spear is useless now like thing make good the rang in speed in no more speed it slow a lot I just use a 2 hand axe they get hard in are faster like all ways only whin they change weapon they make unusable
The spear isn't the problem it's little babies like you who suck. The stamina is the issue we need to go back to skill-based Conan when you have a penalty for running out of stamina
@@Thinking-Biblicallyno the spear is the problem. Its used by every good player for a reason. Its shouldn't 3-4 hit someone and do more damage than most 2 handed weapons that take far longer to do heavy attacks. I agree stamina system is dumb. Imo they need to go back to old school perk system.
@@SlamMyClam the spear is the same except for the light attacks as it always had been. What changed then? Unlimited stamina and cripple on every hit. Take the cripple away and make a penalty for staming out and everything would be fine and all weapons would be viable again
I'm just paste part of a comment of another user in another video: "seeing them being so clueless about their own game, you could literally see it on Dennis face during the stream when he apologized for not knowing what many of the changes were about because he also worked on other games(Dune), so he asked Andy to fill us all in while he probably was trying to read up on some of the changes... I mean come on, he is supposed to be the lead designer of Conan Exiles 😂", we don't know who decide this changes, at this point i suppose some incompetent guy from Tencent who just try to make CE lookalike The Elden Ring. Thumbs down, definitely.
lol back to getting q lock dagger spammed then nice and the god change was silly just let explo arrows go through bubbles and no building on ceiling nerf drawbridge hp
If spears wern't op then we'd see a far greater variety of weapons being weilded ig. When pratically every player is using a spear it gets visually boring more than anything else.
Spears weren't op. The stamina rework just made other weapons worse than they already were, because other weapons weren't adjusted to the increased movespeed of Quickfooted. Fix stamina, remove Quickfooted perk and other weapons become viable again.
They removed free aim basically 💀 didn't think funcom could fuck pvp anymore than what they did in chapter 2 but they sure showed me 😂😂 no wonder the game is dying badly and they gave us a new weapon animation that nobody asked for and nobody will ever use hahahaha
The "new" animation will probably become meta as Kacey said. I think its actually a good change to have low dmg fast and high dmg slow spears with quick light and slower but longer range heavy attacks. Definitely makes more sense than before. But you still have unlimited stamina and bow and greataxe damage is still too high, other than that I am not too negative on this change tbh.
you people. ha. like pve players playing on pvp servers arent the reason that the disparity is so large between players that funcom has to make pvp bot mode easy for all the whiners.
@@Borg-nh8ry You are completely ignoring the fact that 95%+ of the player base are console players (Funcom's data). That and the fact that the change is intentional as well as not a problem for console players is what makes your argument invalid. So, yes, you people... PC players.
TOTALLY IS FOR THE FINAL I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH TRASH!" 85GB OF SCRAP!" WHY YOU MESS IT UP SO MUCH IN THE END AND ONLY 1 CLOSED IT'S OVERFLOWED WITH OPPOSITES.....and CAMEL NO ONE NEEDS IT!" AND THEN SOME SUCH JUST SCRAP!" With the 85GB you could have enlarged SIPTAH or enlarged the large main map and and and but this is so boring and IDEAS GO, you can only puke in a BEAM!" TOTAL LUSTLESSNESS IN MATTER OF DEVELOPMENT AND GAMEPLAY
@@robrib2682 You get chunked in full heavy. I think the problem with the great axe is they have the armor pen or something miscalculated. You can get hit with a heavy with another weapon with more damage and pen and it doesn't do as much damage as the axe.
![Previously on 1961 [Official PVP Adventures] - Conan Exiles | Age of Sorcery](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/wuLsHsMO5LU/mqdefault.jpg)
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The main problem of pvp in this game is how fast characters move, you literally cant hit anyone using for example a katana unless its a running charge attack
i always thought they could slow down sprint speeds or at least accelerating. they did do it years ago but more of a buildup of speed would be nice to combat running away
The main problem in this game is the Devs nerfing things in PVP which also Destroy the PVE game for the Majority of players.
Just skill issue, many ways to cripple then roll, cancel animation to get katana out of your roll, spam light attacks, you will touch most of time if you fast enough, Im on console and still able to cancel weapons animation when we have to press 3 différents buttons without missing to take a weapon during the roll animation. If you pc you just have 1 button to press during the roll
Hopefully they do age of legacy and let people experience the old Conan again but it’s too much to ask for devs that ruin their own game
Yet, you still keep playing. THAT is what you are.
@@atenubi I don’t still play lol that’s the thing
@@SynoGz That's awesome. Now, all you have to do is work on the other part. The game you say you quit left such an impression that you are still talking about it.
@@atenubi ok
@@atenubi people are free to care about things and have opinions, and not playing doesnt mean he has to stop caring.
this childish ultimatum type logic is very telling.
Making spear worse doesn't make the rest of the weapons better. They are still completely unviable due to poorly designed movesets (and, of course, the terribly balanced roll system).
Exactly, everything but great axe and bow are still unviable in most situations.
Was there another patch on testlive? I swear I could turn during spear attacks...
Yes, there was another patch and it removed the ability to turn.
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That game has so much potential but the lack of content and patches and the toxic cheating community makes that game suck
Your just trash
I agree it sucks how u got to deal with cheaters
The FOV it's like a 90s skateboard compilation 💀💀💀💀💀💀
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Lmao! I've been testing some graphics changes for future informational videos for better viewing. Hopefully you'll enjoy! 😁
As long as infinite stamina, no god bubbles, and everything being piss easy to get are still in the game, the game's busted and not worth the time investment.
Shame too, game had great potential and had the best pvp out of all survival games.
they said they have a stamina fix for next update, just gotta wait another 3 months lol
@@Char1998-f8j Sure, we'll wait. We just won't be playing it whilst waiting xD
Rust has great pvp
Funny
no god bubble was a good change. too many unraidable bases. i would prefer every base being able to get wiped easily than a few busted base spots (like gutter)
learn your moves. Pick you desired moveset from the options. Jeez you all want your meta easy fights. Git gud and learn to actually fight.
Tell me you are a PvE player thinking he knows PvP, without telling me you are a PvE player thinking he knows PvP : ^
bro couldnt have said it better myself.
They ruined the game by fucking stamina. for no reason. GG one of the best game to ever exist.
Bring back age of sorcery PvP
So many things could have been done to gradually refine the system that was already in place. Now we have combat with no combos, no grey stamina, no aiming... it's ridiculous.
Thank you man, how can I get the new sweeping spear?
Kingslayer polearm for craftable or warspear of the black circle from legendary chests.
Thanks a lot@@itskacey8444
Its nice to know that we will start to see other weapons arround again besides the spear, I dont mind too much about the lock target, many "good" players on CE use hacks, among them, maybe the oldest and hardest to detect, was the aimbot, not many players can realise how easy is to hack this days on CE, so for the lock target...just take it like For Honor and atleast we all have it regardless of if we chose to use it or not, I think it was a positive update after watching your video and its hard for me to say it because I trully think that funcom is one of the worst company that I know behind what could be the biggest survival sandbox out there so far, maybe after this they can fix the diference between heavy and light armors because I still see light armors taking more damage than heavy armors...I just cant belive that 2-5 players per server are hacking, im quite surprised cuz some reports I made were actually successful .
Stamina I dont think is a problem, its diferent from before but I think everyone is used to it now and, in my opinion took the fighting to a higher level. Anyways I dont agree with your thoughts in many aspects, but thanks for the video, nice information and footage. Have a nice 1 :)
He just trying to find a way to complain😂😂😂he is never happy unless funcom do what he wants😂😂😂😂
Appreciate your opinion! I agree, hopefully we get some more weapon variety on officials, but I suspect it will be great axe 90% of the time.
Massive disagree on stamina. The current stamina system makes rolling practically unpunishable. Nerfing spear doesn't make the rest of the weapon cast any better; they still have terribly designed movesets that are completely unviable in PvP. The only difference is now people will just go pure bow instead of bow-spear. They need to fix their roll mechanics to be punishable, and rework all weapon movesets to be viable at roll catching + vortexing opponents. Idk how they fucked up rolls this badly, just model the roll system after Ds3 and you have a punishable roll that still works as a strong defensive tool.
@@draelos8570 I think in my opinion they gonna change the rolling animation that adapts with the stamina system
Just watch in a year Conan will be a replica of elden rings combine with for honor😂😂and I’m all down for it💪💪
@@draelos8570 To me the game is challenging in pvp, don't bother me at all the Stamina change because is the same to all, its equal to everyone, but if you want to use another weapon outside of the spear 80% chance you will lose and 80% I think is being your friend...I agree that the mecanics of many weapons should be reworked after age of war but the nerf on spear im happy about it. I don't really like to play spear and like me must be many that were forced to use it because there is no match for it atm in my opinion
now i will with spears
Spears are top dog. Spears get nerfed. Not great axes are top dog. So they will nerf those next. Then daggers will be top dog. Then they will nerf daggers. Then 1hand axes and greatswords will be top dog. Then they will nerf those too. Soon there will only be punching
All they had to do was nerf lock on, not even remove it just make it how it used to be along with fixing stamina
Yeah, just revert the game, and it's fixed, haha. But Dennis is too bigheaded to admit he's messed up.
slowing spear heavy was necessary, it's been the number 1 consistent meta for at least the 4 years i've been playing the game. Being able to turn mid-attack didn't create the problem, it just exacerbated it. hate these latest changes to turning though, it's gonna feel fucking awful
Distance will always be meta. If you can hit someone while they can't hit you, it doesn't really matter how little damage you do. The problem with Conan is that even if you close the gap on someone using a spear, they aren't vulnerable like they would be realistically. Spear should be meta, but rely on precise strikes and maintaining enough distance between you and your opponent.
@@itskacey8444 Distance is only the clear, outstanding meta if speed isn't adjusted for, but now it finally will be adjusted for. Spear light doesn't have the same reach as spear heavy. Spear's no doubt still gonna be strong, and in teamfights it'll still be a key part of the meta, but it absolutely does not need to be the all-encompassing, universal meta that it is now and has been for years. Look at other pvp melee games: reach does not need to be the king, there's plenty of examples of other, more interesting shit out there that isn't "poke fast, accurately and from far away"
@Adam-th7qt other games have counters, weapon clashes, clear advantages and disadvantages to short range vs long range weapons, and pathways to make both successful. Conan's combat system is too rudimentary to properly balance range.
Look at Naraka: Bladepoint gameplay, and you'll see what I mean. Spears have reach you can play around, greatswords have slow, aoe attacks you can play around, dual blades have quick bursts you can play around. Every weapon has advantages and disadvantages. Combat in Conan basically just who can swing big stick to do damage and not get hit by big stick coming other way. Bigger stick is good. Stick that flies through the air is best.
amazing spear changes!!!! Been hating that freaking thing for yers! The only thing left is to remove infinite roll capability. Like what the hell is this? the game used to punish U for making a mistake and as a consiquence U had to roll, now game punishes U for attacking!!!
I hate so much, the new animation in what real History data spear use that circle attacks. How dump is new emotes. Spear meant to be a precisely front attack with reach and fast than many others weapons. Search on internet spear has to be meta as daggers
In that case claws should have movement as daggers they are useless too. Daggers still op and they don't see that. I mean.... I hate this changes like a lot
that wasnt really a cohesive sentence there bud.
but, ill extrapolate. Spears historically win wars because they cost very little metal to make and can be given to a group on novices and be effective on a large scale melee due to the wall of pokey pokes. They also, do shit for damage compared to other weapons due to their use case and designe. they are also, extremely bad at close quarters combat and are individually very slow since most spears would be 8-16ft long.
you wana see spinny spear stuff look at any asian short pole or spear fighting btw, its very comman what most would call "monk" stuff.
maybe this comment is out of date but I try to catch up! but I think combat as of todays date is very good for pvp ; when that is said I would like to see some spear changes i terms of making it somewhat viable again ; but I am glad to see other weapons in pvp now :)
Ok so spear is useless now like thing make good the rang in speed in no more speed it slow a lot I just use a 2 hand axe they get hard in are faster like all ways only whin they change weapon they make unusable
... thats... words i think..
nerf nerf nerf... when will give up on this game and just make Conan in UE5 that works!!!
Its about time they nerfed the spear.Its been Op since day 1.Time for other weapons.Test the hitbox,i think they nerfed it as well.
The spear isn't the problem it's little babies like you who suck. The stamina is the issue we need to go back to skill-based Conan when you have a penalty for running out of stamina
@@Thinking-Biblicallyno the spear is the problem. Its used by every good player for a reason. Its shouldn't 3-4 hit someone and do more damage than most 2 handed weapons that take far longer to do heavy attacks. I agree stamina system is dumb. Imo they need to go back to old school perk system.
@@SlamMyClam the spear is the same except for the light attacks as it always had been. What changed then? Unlimited stamina and cripple on every hit. Take the cripple away and make a penalty for staming out and everything would be fine and all weapons would be viable again
Back to dagger spam baby 😂
@@SlamMyClam spear was not meta before stamina rework. it was one of the better "chase down" tools but not good for fighting.
Daggers for win again.
Great axe for the win
great axes fights are fun.@@itskacey8444
@@itskacey8444 bow dominates great axe 100% of the time dagger will be the only counter to the bow cos of the speed 😂
@acerions5932 Yeah, bow absolutely wins against great axe. Most players would rather ooga booga swing big axe than learn how to shoot, though 😅
I'm just paste part of a comment of another user in another video: "seeing them being so clueless about their own game, you could literally see it on Dennis face during the stream when he apologized for not knowing what many of the changes were about because he also worked on other games(Dune), so he asked Andy to fill us all in while he probably was trying to read up on some of the changes... I mean come on, he is supposed to be the lead designer of Conan Exiles 😂", we don't know who decide this changes, at this point i suppose some incompetent guy from Tencent who just try to make CE lookalike The Elden Ring. Thumbs down, definitely.
lol back to getting q lock dagger spammed then nice and the god change was silly just let explo arrows go through bubbles and no building on ceiling nerf drawbridge hp
I like the Glaives
If spears wern't op then we'd see a far greater variety of weapons being weilded ig. When pratically every player is using a spear it gets visually boring more than anything else.
Spears weren't op. The stamina rework just made other weapons worse than they already were, because other weapons weren't adjusted to the increased movespeed of Quickfooted. Fix stamina, remove Quickfooted perk and other weapons become viable again.
They removed free aim basically 💀 didn't think funcom could fuck pvp anymore than what they did in chapter 2 but they sure showed me 😂😂 no wonder the game is dying badly and they gave us a new weapon animation that nobody asked for and nobody will ever use hahahaha
Yep! Basically! 😂
The "new" animation will probably become meta as Kacey said. I think its actually a good change to have low dmg fast and high dmg slow spears with quick light and slower but longer range heavy attacks. Definitely makes more sense than before. But you still have unlimited stamina and bow and greataxe damage is still too high, other than that I am not too negative on this change tbh.
Dayummm no more role poke? Bet
You people made this possible and I'm glad.
you people. ha.
like pve players playing on pvp servers arent the reason that the disparity is so large between players that funcom has to make pvp bot mode easy for all the whiners.
@@Borg-nh8ry You are completely ignoring the fact that 95%+ of the player base are console players (Funcom's data). That and the fact that the change is intentional as well as not a problem for console players is what makes your argument invalid. So, yes, you people... PC players.
TOTALLY IS FOR THE FINAL I'VE NEVER SEEN SUCH TRASH!" 85GB OF SCRAP!" WHY YOU MESS IT UP SO MUCH IN THE END AND ONLY 1 CLOSED IT'S OVERFLOWED WITH OPPOSITES.....and CAMEL NO ONE NEEDS IT!" AND THEN SOME SUCH JUST SCRAP!" With the 85GB you could have enlarged SIPTAH or enlarged the large main map and and and but this is so boring and IDEAS GO, you can only puke in a BEAM!" TOTAL LUSTLESSNESS IN MATTER OF DEVELOPMENT AND GAMEPLAY
I wish they would nerf great axe.
Why? All the other weapons are terrible. They should revert the changes that made every other weapon useless and buff weapons that are still weak.
@@robrib2682 No it doesn't
@@robrib2682 You get chunked in full heavy. I think the problem with the great axe is they have the armor pen or something miscalculated. You can get hit with a heavy with another weapon with more damage and pen and it doesn't do as much damage as the axe.
@@myriadcorp I didn't know that. if they borked the greataxe armor pen then that would be a problem.
Thanks
Never used one
bro they dont want pvp in this game. fack this
Παιζεις απο ps4-5?
oxi apo pc paizw.@@klarinistas2009
people still care about this game??
You're commenting on a video about it.
@@itskacey8444 no shit, youtube algorithms are all out of wack atm
Wtf are these graphics 🤣🤣🤣
those look like the old animations 🥹 (you j mentioned it as I commented this lmao)