Next on to Gama world 7th edition. I would love "Let's make a character for ________". 1) RuneQuest ( all editions ) from Chaosium & other companies. 2) Arthur Pendragon ( all editions ) from Chaosium. 3) Traveller ( all editions ) from various companies. 4) Warhammer roleplay wrath & glory ( both editions ) 5) The Mutant Epoch from Outland Arts
@@tabletopgamingwithwolfphototec I'm not saying he wouldn't do 7th edition because of the card system, I'm just commenting on how stupid 7th edition was to add a card system to a ttrpg, which as we know is a terrible idea.
Traveller's character creation is probably the coolest of any game I've played, even if it doesn't let you do a ton to mechanically distinguish your character from every other character with similar skills. Pendragon is on a long, long list of games which sound like they'd be awesome to play if I had a group willing to engage with its unique elements, which I have never played because I'm not sure my group would be.
34:34: The correct choice. I feel _so_ much spite for WotC not wanting to number its editions any more. 7:35: What, do you _not_ think the infinite diversity of mutant bodies is innately sexy in a way no group of ordinary humans can match? 16:25: Possibly the best idea this game has. I _love_ games which force you to consider background and personality and so forth as a basic element of character creation. They're not the right choice for _every_ game, but more games should use them. 29:43: Between how useful pack animals are in stuff-heavy games and how incestuous the post-apocalyptic and Wild West genres are, the fact that Gamma World 6th Edition's designers didn't think anyone would want to have a horse is _absurd._ Looking at Gamma World 6th Edition, it's amazing how terrible D20 Modern is as a generic system. GURPS has its flaws, but anyone who knows about the Gamma World setting and GURPS rules can make a better Gamma World supplement for GURPS than this. D20 Modern is just not designed to be a generic game, even though that is its nominal purpose. Of course, you could also argue that D20 Modern's _real_ purpose was to convince D&D fans to buy a halfway-familiar WotC product when they wanted to try (for instance) a sci-fi RPG, instead of picking up _Shadowrun_ or _Paranoia_ or _Cyberpunk 2020_ or _Traveller_ or any of the million other games designed to be the kind of thing you want to be. I think that's kinda dumb, but there are people who make sci-fi hacks for 5e, so I guess there's a market.
I think I gave White Wolf a lot of leeway for their editing because at the time I was also playing Rifts and other Palladium games. “Page xx” pales in comparison to a 500+ page rulebook with no index and rules copied and pasted from other parts of the book (or different games altogether) complete with the same typos.
So "pure strain humans" were genetically engineered to be better than "stock humans"? If that's the case, it would almost seem like the pure strain would be more a parallel to mutants, except that mutants arrive at their mutations randomly (chaotically), the pure strains' "mutation" were designed and engineered (lawfully). I also have to wonder (risking d6 sanity loss) that if they'd allowed mutated plants, would some of them also have been genetically engineered as pleasure models? And, if so, which plants, particularly?
As for new series to cover. Shadowrun, Deadlands, Tunnels and Trolls, Fading Suns and/or Mutant Chronicles. Bonus points if you want to tackle the Aliens adventure game from the early 90s. It’s the only game I’ve ever seen where your character can die during character generation.
I wonder which one's are down the pipeline, especially after this one. Traveller? 13th Age? 7th sea? Numanera/Cypher? Lancer? FATE? Palladium? Genyses? Mutants & Masterminds? I don't think any pbta but who knows.
You should really slip in Omega World, the minigame from Polyhedron magazine slightly before d20 Modern came out, I ran a few games of it back in the day
Ever considered Pinnacle's Deadlands series? It has a pretty interesting take on character creation mechanics, combat actions, and for some characters spellcasting.
Those videos make me wonder how would you make a TTRPG focused on post-apocalyptic scavenging, identifying past tech and finding uses for it in the current situation and so on.
I get the idea of having a universal system makes learning games easier but goes against my belief that the game rules can enhance the type of game you are playing. If you use the D&D system for other games they inherently feel like D&D. For some this may not be a bad thing but for many it’s not great. The thing is TSR learned this in the late 80s with their first attempt at a Buck Roger’s game.
If i had to pick a 'make a character' after you do the gamma world stuff for' i'd pick Lancer because 1) easyer project to do and 2)WOOOBOY that books got some problems that need talking about. No you Arcing should not let you make multiple right angle turns iwth an artillery shell and Yes your Can use your mech ability out of combat, and no: the excuse "X happens because game" is not a good answer!
Next on to Gama world 7th edition.
I would love "Let's make a character for ________".
1) RuneQuest ( all editions ) from Chaosium & other companies.
2) Arthur Pendragon ( all editions ) from Chaosium.
3) Traveller ( all editions ) from various companies.
4) Warhammer roleplay wrath & glory ( both editions )
5) The Mutant Epoch from Outland Arts
Just to clarify, 7th edition was the stupid one that used a card system right?
@monhunterz5430
An D&D 4th edition and Warhammer Fantasy roleplay 3rd edition also leaned heavily onto cards.
Yet he also did those.
@@tabletopgamingwithwolfphototec I'm not saying he wouldn't do 7th edition because of the card system, I'm just commenting on how stupid 7th edition was to add a card system to a ttrpg, which as we know is a terrible idea.
@@monhunterz5430
Yes it has cards.
Defining if it is bad is a matter of looking at it and playing or running it.
Traveller's character creation is probably the coolest of any game I've played, even if it doesn't let you do a ton to mechanically distinguish your character from every other character with similar skills.
Pendragon is on a long, long list of games which sound like they'd be awesome to play if I had a group willing to engage with its unique elements, which I have never played because I'm not sure my group would be.
More GW! Awesome. Thank you, zigmenthotep.
34:34: The correct choice. I feel _so_ much spite for WotC not wanting to number its editions any more.
7:35: What, do you _not_ think the infinite diversity of mutant bodies is innately sexy in a way no group of ordinary humans can match?
16:25: Possibly the best idea this game has. I _love_ games which force you to consider background and personality and so forth as a basic element of character creation. They're not the right choice for _every_ game, but more games should use them.
29:43: Between how useful pack animals are in stuff-heavy games and how incestuous the post-apocalyptic and Wild West genres are, the fact that Gamma World 6th Edition's designers didn't think anyone would want to have a horse is _absurd._
Looking at Gamma World 6th Edition, it's amazing how terrible D20 Modern is as a generic system. GURPS has its flaws, but anyone who knows about the Gamma World setting and GURPS rules can make a better Gamma World supplement for GURPS than this. D20 Modern is just not designed to be a generic game, even though that is its nominal purpose.
Of course, you could also argue that D20 Modern's _real_ purpose was to convince D&D fans to buy a halfway-familiar WotC product when they wanted to try (for instance) a sci-fi RPG, instead of picking up _Shadowrun_ or _Paranoia_ or _Cyberpunk 2020_ or _Traveller_ or any of the million other games designed to be the kind of thing you want to be. I think that's kinda dumb, but there are people who make sci-fi hacks for 5e, so I guess there's a market.
I think I gave White Wolf a lot of leeway for their editing because at the time I was also playing Rifts and other Palladium games. “Page xx” pales in comparison to a 500+ page rulebook with no index and rules copied and pasted from other parts of the book (or different games altogether) complete with the same typos.
Dude, you are sooo underrated!
I love this series!
So "pure strain humans" were genetically engineered to be better than "stock humans"? If that's the case, it would almost seem like the pure strain would be more a parallel to mutants, except that mutants arrive at their mutations randomly (chaotically), the pure strains' "mutation" were designed and engineered (lawfully). I also have to wonder (risking d6 sanity loss) that if they'd allowed mutated plants, would some of them also have been genetically engineered as pleasure models? And, if so, which plants, particularly?
Well, wer're talking White Wolf in on 2003, so probably some kind of pitcher plant with an entire page describing their attracting pheromones.
the credit check is the 1 mechanic I enjoy because I hate book keeping for trivial stuff. these games are stories, not spread sheets.
"D20 Modern, which is basically D&D without the fun"
I hope that you will eventually do a Blades in the Dark character (probably quite quick!)
As for new series to cover. Shadowrun, Deadlands, Tunnels and Trolls, Fading Suns and/or Mutant Chronicles.
Bonus points if you want to tackle the Aliens adventure game from the early 90s. It’s the only game I’ve ever seen where your character can die during character generation.
The older editions of Traveller also had that as a risk.
I wonder which one's are down the pipeline, especially after this one.
Traveller?
13th Age?
7th sea?
Numanera/Cypher?
Lancer?
FATE?
Palladium?
Genyses?
Mutants & Masterminds?
I don't think any pbta but who knows.
You should really slip in Omega World, the minigame from Polyhedron magazine slightly before d20 Modern came out, I ran a few games of it back in the day
Mutants and Masterminds!
I would love to see you Cover Harnmaster. A very detailed fantasy game that is deliciously complex.
I was just watching from the second to the fifth edition and you post a new video!
"A nano-swarm chooses the user, Mr. Potter. That much has always been known."
Ever considered Pinnacle's Deadlands series? It has a pretty interesting take on character creation mechanics, combat actions, and for some characters spellcasting.
Those videos make me wonder how would you make a TTRPG focused on post-apocalyptic scavenging, identifying past tech and finding uses for it in the current situation and so on.
I would like to see you make a character for Mutant Future RPG and for BFRPG.
I get the idea of having a universal system makes learning games easier but goes against my belief that the game rules can enhance the type of game you are playing. If you use the D&D system for other games they inherently feel like D&D. For some this may not be a bad thing but for many it’s not great.
The thing is TSR learned this in the late 80s with their first attempt at a Buck Roger’s game.
Any thoughts on "Everyday Heroes"? It's d20 modern for 5e. Reading through it looks good but I haven't run it yet.
I would love to hear your view on the remake of these old systems. I.E Everyday Hero for d20 Modern, or Mutans in the Now for the Ninja Turtles RPG.
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If i had to pick a 'make a character' after you do the gamma world stuff for' i'd pick Lancer because 1) easyer project to do and 2)WOOOBOY that books got some problems that need talking about. No you Arcing should not let you make multiple right angle turns iwth an artillery shell and Yes your Can use your mech ability out of combat, and no: the excuse "X happens because game" is not a good answer!