Mike Phelan Gives Insight Into Ole Gunnar Solskjær & Man Utd Decline
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- Опубліковано 3 гру 2024
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Still love Ole 100%. He is Manchester United and I miss him.
Ronaldo coming back killed Ole off. Bruno creating for Greenwood, Rashford and Cavani was great. Cavani had work rate off the ball as well. Rashford and Greenwood followed Cavani with the same work rate off the ball. The whole system changed just for Ronaldo to score with zero work rate off the ball. Yeah he scored 24 goals but the goal difference was 0. The year before it was +25. A big difference.
I also think Cavani was more constructive when it came to talking to the other players too...there was 1 game (can't recall atm who we played) when Greenwood took a touch then crossed the ball and Cavani didn't get on the end of it. You then saw Cavani speak to Greenwood and gesture "just cross it 1st time for me", which Greenwood did later in the game and boom, Cavani scored. Whereas Ronaldo would just shout at them. Ronaldo coming and taking the 7 is why Cavani fucked it off his last season, Ole promised him the 7 and that no more strikers would be bought that window, then Ronaldo is acquired and demands the 7.
All the wasted money on Sancho didn't help either
@@garethdeere4822I know right, who sanctioned that signing, his favourite position is where rashford plays.
All the while they continued to neglect midfield issues.
@@phils3631 Big shiny superstar signings. Great for our social media presence........
Rashford Martial Greenwood was the best front 3 man united had since Rooney Ronaldo tevez
Love Ole. When did we last score 5? Did it regularly under Ole. Top bloke too.
Should not have got rid of him. He lived and had the club at heart.
Bottled the Europa League final and decided on ruining his plan by signing Ronaldo. Spent far more money than he deserved
Without him, the team won trophies with the manager before and after him
I love ole but he absolutely was not cut out for the job. Correct decision to move him on.
Best had club at heart get him back!!!
@@storm21410 he didnt bottle anything, rashford missing 2 sitters and de gea unable to save 1 fcking shot out of 11 bottled the final
Recruitment is the main thing gone wrong at United for a long time. Recruitment/ selling/ contracts/ salary.
Ole got us 3 and 2 in the PL.
And no trophies….
@@rupertwilmot4792 But 3 and 2 is a strong achievement in itself. Most football experts agree about that. And Ole nearly won a European final against Sevilla. But DeGea didnt score him pen. That was insanely close.
A manager can never be judged on a single criteria alone.
@@Mr.Monta77
Zero trophy 🏆 means nothing
@@makoskos100 Nothing? I think TenHag would be ecstatic if he made 3 and 2. But you are so simple minded and think a national trophy counts. You think Real Madrid would be satisfied with a national trophy? That’s funny.
Coming second is a good achievement but Utd are supposed to be challenging for the league. Although Ole did well in the league on paper, the reality is that they never looked like making progress to winning the league and beating City
If Mourinho took over United right after Sir Alex left, things would be different today. United was a huge catch for Moyes and he wasn’t ready to take the club forward because he had no experience with elite club coaching.
100%
Disagree. I don’t think Mourinho could have run the club like AF did. AF was a workaholic and the club was built around him. The club didn’t then restructure in prep for his retirement. No manager would have succeeded after AF, not even Pep, because the club was a mess then and still is (although finally now being improved by Ineos). Not saying Moyes was the right choice - more that there was no right choice.
When Fergie introduced Moyes to the crowd. I forget the game, but I knew then he was stuffed. He looked like a school boy being pushed forward by the head master. If Fergie's shadow wasn't over him he might have done better. It was a suicide move for Moyes, he should have timed it better.
You clowns are hilarious. Ineos are no different than the Glazers. They are simply kicking the can down the road. You were ass all season but winning that game at the end of the season filled your head with nonsense. ETH stinks. You poached a member of our leadership from our department but you didn't bring Txiki or Pep the guys who matter. You still can't sign top players, no serious players want to play for United. Nothing has changed at United, the roof is still leaking...and you will finish outside the top 4. Sending love from Tempe Arizona USA. @@Matt-JKD
Still love Ole. He should have been given more time.
Says Ole should have been backed and given more time but also says ETH should have been sacked. Bit of a contradiction MP.
Not after last season, a cup final win doesn’t cancel out 9 months of shit
@@Salfordshire You Can't blame ETH for all the injuries we have had over the 9 months. we had the full team back for the FA up final and look what happened.
@@SalfordshireOle won nothing but he deserved more time?
ole had the youngest team in premier league and board that didn't get the players he wanted haaland , bellingham , rice
ETH spent a small fortune.
Ole's team was good and Ronaldo came back then everything changed.
One of Ole's biggest pitfall is player favoritism...example De Gea and Maguire made blunders after blunders but he kept starting them. I mean, both players ofc need game time to back on track, but he didn't bench them once, it was frustrating for fans to see. Should've given those players a bit of break.
Another thing is he was dictated by management and SAF, like the Ronaldo deal. Ole obviously didn't want Ronaldo, but he was forced to accept. Ronaldo is a great player, but not suitable for the team at that moment
Other than that, I actually like United when Ole was in charge. Their performance was energetic, very attractive.
Even frickn Pogba was on good form in many games.
Whenever we face City or Liverpool I always have confidence that we can win.
varane too was not he signing , not the player suited to his style. varane was board signing shirt selling big name player.
Incompetent hierarchy THEY pick the manager and then sack them after 8 months, 18 months, 2 years, 3 years after a few bad results 😳🙄
Moyes took a title winning team to 7th; you want to give him more time? A manager who had won nothing. A competent manager but one to pick up a team to compete? He made United Everton; a team happy to be 6th. Not Moyes fault. He is dull. Boring. A worrier. Believed he was a winner when he had never won anything. He started the rot and United hierarchy are to blame.
They pick him they should have stood by him as the big man said
@@frankford1115 That title winning squad was one on it's last legs. Giggs,Vidic,Carrick, Ferdinand and Evra were in the twilight of their playing careers at that point. We had sub par players like Alexander Butner,Tom Cleverly and others who weren't at the level we needed them to be. Moyes was also severely let down by the incompetence of Ed Woodward in the transfer market buying one player in the summer window(Paying about £27,000,000 for Fellaini,when he could've signed him a few days earlier for cheaper.) The fact is he was hamstrung from the start.
The dressing room can get a manager the sack, if the players stick together a manager has no chance in this day and age
Not winning the Europa League title was the beginning of the end for Ole tbh. I've always believed had he won it the narrative on him would be different. Failing to address the midfield and his reliance on McFred, Maguire, Lindelof, Wan-Bissaka, Shaw, Rashford and Bruno Fernandes was killing him and failure to fully utilize the squad. Signing Ronaldo was unnecessary and further accelerated his downfall and it didn't help Ole had Carrick, Phelan and McKenna who was his coaching staff. His final nail came in the Watford game when we got smashed. Ole is still a club legend no matter what but he needs to improve in his in game management and tactical skills to manage Manchester United once again.
As an Ipswich fan was listening hoping to hear viewpoints on Kieran McKenna, to me he can walk on water 😂
He was inexperienced and ineffective, he did the right thing going down and learning his trade. Glad hes doing well now, long way to go though
@@almsivi123 I’m surprised and happy that he didn’t take the Brighton job, would have been a logical step career wise. Think United will be in a few years when most the squad who were there when he was a coach have gone.
@@almsivi123No he wasn’t. He was one of the best coaching talents around when United picked him up. He did great with the academy, and set up a lot of the attacking tactics for United’s first team. Considering Greenwood, Martial and Rashford was the most scoring front 3 for almost that entire year. That says a lot.
It’s the media narratives and youtube pundit narratives that almost destroyed his image. And the narratives was WRONG. Just like the Ole narratives.
@@Blaster1713 great he makes a good academy coach and can do well with a championship side... still dont want him at the wheel in the biggest club in the world. Shock horror.
I was sick to death of chopping managers and their philosophies every 2-3 year. When Ole was on the chopping block, I really wanted us to just firm it for another year. We needed (still need tbf) to just ride the wave, no matter how rough. I’m glad EtH has been given backing because another sacking, another transition would have pissed me off to the point of no return
Well…. 2024 November ETH got sacked :/
@@ayanchatterjee528indeed! I’ll admit, I was being dramatic, I can’t not support my club. Plus I can’t expect INEOS to not make moves, seeing as they wanted rid of him. It is all so tiresome though and I’m definitely bored of it all and less passionate.
@@yourface07 agreed mate. I also really wanted Ole to succeed and possibly give him a chance till the end of the season he got sacked. True, at least INEOS are making decisions, and I agree it’s a repetitive process which is frustrating. Hopefully Amorim is the one. It will probably be tough at stages, but I like him and hope we aren’t here 3-4 years down the line saying the same thing.
Rashford got the hump because of Ronaldo. Thats all. And bruno also.
Loving Mick Phelans range of T Shirts, where can you get them? Has he got one with Ole at the wheel? 😂
Has Phelan got his own clothing brand, or just personal monogramed t-shirts?
I heard he stole them all from members of Parliament.
@@SpotlessLeopard😂😂😂😂
Ole was clearly thrown under the bus!! Especially after the 2nd season. He is time and time again denied a proper DM he was begging for!! Fron Palinha, Rice, Kalvin Philps, Zakaria, even Kante, Locatelli, Koopmeiners, Woodward went everywhere but got nothing!!! Because of that, he was forced to play his most important player of that team Pogba out of position from no. 8 into everywhere LW, RW and where not. Wish Ole had Ratcliffe.
I will be watching the full interview after this
Don’t bother, it’s boring as fuck
Sleepy time
They’ve tried everything. Employed veteran champions league and domestic winning managers, Brought back club legends, employed potential greats. They have spent millions and stayed the same. Total mess. I think ten hag needs one more season after winning trophy’s but he’s going to have to give the first team a clear out then he will have to spend millions bringing in new faces but will the team click? Can’t see him being there end of next season and if they bring someone else in and the manager list they have what can they do any better then what ten hag has already done? You need a big personality to change that club. Like what Klopp did at Liverpool. Liverpool were in a similar position . Klopp changed all that.
He got asked if they stopped playing for ole and he said no… ok
Ferguson almost hand picked David Moyes and that fell apart. Hoping for same story at 'Pool.
One key difference....Klopp did not earmark his successor as Sir Alex did. Edwards is a canny operator and looks like he is ready to make unpopular decisions. No one saw Slot as a favourite for the Liverpool gig.
Moyes wasn’t the main problem it was him deciding to clear out everyone
Ben’s nose breath❤
0 trophies in 4 years
I always wondered who inspired Ole's way of talking English and here we are.
Lol
"we lost steam"....how much are you getting paid?
Ole a brilliant bloke but let the dressing room go toxic. You have to be ruthless with difficult players. Zero discipline. Phelan is just a yes man looking after number one. Ole is toast as is Phelan !
For me the biggest mistake was getting rid of Ole when they did, he should have gone to the end of the season, the half season under Rangnick was a disaster from almost every aspect. He was definitely the wrong man at the wrong time.
More like right man at the wrong club. Good coach (as seen everywhere else he's been) and a great football mind (as ETH himself basically said). He was hung out to try at the biggest football club in the world with people above who knew nothing about it (Woodward, Murtough, Arnold, Judge, Glazers, ...). To be fair, same can be said for Ole - I don't think he was a good manager (considering he didn't want a holding 6 and kept playing a pivot of McFred) but he would've done more with a right structure above (considering they'd let him become a manager in the first place).
Rangnick was the one along Ronaldo who said the club needed open heart surgery. It's happening now so got a lot to thank him for
reminds me of my dad
grounded
bleeds football
great man manager
get him involved training youth
staff etc
IMO🙏
Ole was amazing. I loved every thing about him as manager. Sadly, Ronaldo decided to join Man City just to force Man United to buy him.
Ole’s downfall is signing Ronaldo
Still think beating the strongest City team since I can remember is a step in the right direction. Maybe it's the players attitude
Fergie carried you Mike
Ole was to soft and allowed 'the rot' to fester and eventually throw him under the bus !
Keane spotted the decline years ago when he saw it wasn't about football anymore
Really good interview, love it! Subbed !
What the hell is he saying?🤷🏻♂️
Ole was the best. Wish he was back
People blaming Ronaldo for Ole's failure should go and check the injury history from that season.
Cavani missed half a season through injury
Greenwood had his off the field issues since December
Martial not available half the time
So I don't see how Ronaldo's return killed Ole. Ole was a tactically inept manager which he confessed in the overlap interview it was just about vibes.
MAN UTD HAVE STRUGGLED SINCE FERGIE LEFT .WE'VE WON 2 LEAGUE CUPS 2 F.A CUPS A EUROPEAN TROPHY AND CHARITY SHIELD .STILL ALOT MORE THAN ALOT PREM TEAMS .
United have been shocking. Them trophy’s just papered over holes in the wall
Why are you shouting?
Manchester Uniteds demise started and ended with Ferguson and The Rock of Gibraltar 👍
Shut up
Twaddle
Except for the titles right?
Absolutely. Ferguson owned that horse from 2001-04. And from that time until Ferguson retired, United only won 7 premier leagues, a European cup, an FA cup and 3 league cups. Yep, total demise of the club
@@christopherpenny6083@Jake87275 is referring to the current ‘owners’ being aggressive in purchasing MUFC using a loan then throwing that loan onto MUFC. The rest, leading up to the current day and the pitiful shape that we’re in, is a result of the dispute SAF had with the owners of the horse Rock of Gibraltar. So theoretically, had SAF not had the dispute over horse spunk, MUFC wouldn’t have been taken over in the way they were. Probably.
So basically feel good factor didn't work in the long run. Need a manager with a tactical masterclass. EtH in.
Ole was what the club needed to removed the dark cloud. If ten hag came then the players would have scapegoat him and he would of been sacked in a year
If United had given Ole 5 years blanco, he would have made United a powerhouse in the same way you ONLY see Real Madrid is. No other clubs are even REMOTLY near. City are miles and mile below. Ole would have made Manchester United the only club in the world remotly close.
@@guttormmarkussen2662 u are dreaming. feel good factor won't make us great. ole wasn't qualified for the job initially. lets stop being pitiful. we were never going to win trophies under ole. it was fun in the beginning but a more competent person should haver been brought in immediately after the ship was steaded.
It’s good for Australian football that he praises the mariners. This man has a wealth of experience 👍
I'm glad this guy was dropped. He's not ruthless enough or targeted enough
Ole needs a second chance
Micky was a good solid professional who never gave less than everything he could in every game, good number two as well.
With all respect to Mick, I rate him the least out of Kidd, Mclaren, Queiroz, And Rene… because of what we were under Ole, and the interviews he’s done since.
He seems absolutely clueless, left behind, fossil thinking.
Ole needed someone to get tough with him and tell him that tactics , personnel but especially the culture needed a change, and out of McKenna and Carrick, mick was the only one with the experience to really do that.
They coddled that group and we’ve been paying for it ever since, and it’s stifled ETH tremendously to this day.
Ultimately the players ran out of steam? After 15 odd games?!
Ole got the job on the back of beating psg in what, a quarter final CL tie? And things went t!ts up from there…
That guy in press conferences… has there ever been a manager in prem history that outed himself so often as to not knowing wtf was going on with his players and training?
🤦🏻♂️
Did he really just say ole didn’t lose the dressing room?
7-0?
5-0?
Fckin seriously?
😂
Ok I’ve just finished watching this clip now.
Mick Phelan was definitely a determining factor in why things went to 💩 with ole at united.
He is so bloody clueless, naive. 😂😂😂
Agreed. Talking absolute shite. Stating Ole should have been backed at the time he was sacked. Like we’re just supposed to ignore how bad it was. He was happy to just be employed again after leaving and ending up working in the Aleague.
Perfect comment. Saved me from having to say exactly this. Discipline, professionalism and standards went out of the window. Yes it improved the atmosphere in the short term, but in the long term we’ve paid for it.
Another interview that tells us nothing new,can’t say anything bad about footballers and ex mates
What the heck is he talking about?
Ole should get the backing not the sack.. the players should get the boot if performance are not satisfactory..
Not being pissy,but when did winning the charity sheild become a countable trophy?
The berties count it all the time🤷♂️
I also used to think that about what is now the Carabao cup
This is the most b******* interview I've ever seen
As the top performer in recent times, I've written extensively about the monumental failure of the current form of football. Manure encapsulates all of those elementary mistakes very neatly.
When Ferguson was developing his empire, he was able to go get Lee Sharpe and Cantona cheaply. Today, anyone within a light year of signing at OT automatically thinks that they're the next Bryan Robson and is evaluated accordingly.
He should name his own name in the "reasons of United decline".
Sounds like a nice bloke. But doesnt sound like an elite coach.
He's being asked questions regarding the club as an organisation... Football, football questions I wouldn't be underestimating him.. as nice as he is you also get the feeling he knows how to take care of himself. He has a boxing trainer aura about him. Raw, knowledgeable, a winner and a grafter.
Mourinho’s ruthlessness would have weeded out the weak and the unfitting and brought back much needed discipline and character in that dressing room if he was afforded more time. Bringing Ole in was a short term solution that led to long term issues that are persistent even now.
Ole's time pre-Ronaldo was the best football I enjoyed from man united in years
Jose was terrible, fell out with the players, fans and staff and played anti football
Mourinho's ruthlessness was very selective and Ole started clearing deadwood (young, darmian, rojo, sanchez....)
The board should have backed Mourinho over the players and got rid of the deadwood. The players have sacked 4 managers but linger like bad smells
@@nickmccartan8128Never the right man for the job. He's toxic, can start an argument in an empty house, and his brand of football is the complete opposite of United's traditional attacking style of play (same with Spurs, too). Mourinho basically undermined Van Gaal from the sidelines, having always made it very clear he wanted the job. Then, when he finally got it, didn't even settle in Manchester, staying at the Lowry Hotel, and spending a lot of time in London. He was disastrous. Unfortunately, he's got this online fan boy following, who think he walks on water...
So saying thats why Ole was the manager he basically saying he did jackshite just leeching a salary. Sat their like a glazer puppet during Ralf time as well. He was no good on his own as well. So not sure why people give him any credit.
find a hole and stay there . please,
What went wrong? For a start OGS was never qualified to manage United. But he has now set the bar so low that United appointed E7H as their manager. It is just a matter of time until Big Sam also gets a chance😂😂
So Ferguson never conceded 6 or 7 before right, Grow up kid, conceding 7 doesn't mean you're a mad manager, all big managers have lost heavily before, is no news, just grow up and learn football not just spitting rubbish
Bringing in Ronaldo. It's that simple.
🤡🤡 saying the club needs stability in the staff. He was saying only a couple of weeks ago ten hag needs the sack. Very bitter man
Incompetent Woodward sacked Ole after 3 losses 😮🙄
This is a guy who says Ten Hag doesn't deserve any more time, yet it was Ole and this guy as his assistant that set the club back years with their all mates rubbish, IMO. Not good enough, never were.
Setting united back by back to back top 4 finishes and a European final?
And getting rid of a lot of overpaid mid players like Lukaku and bringing in likes of Bruno?
@@D3_XT3Rfinals aren’t remembered if you don’t win them
@@Ambitiousofficialuk we lost on a penalty shootout that was literally 10-11. Unless you want Ole to take a pen, there's nothing more he could've done.
@@D3_XT3R stop living in the past fella
@@Ambitiousofficialuk do you even know what "living in the past" means?
4 managers in 6 years clearly not worked! Incompetent club. THEY appoint the managers and then keep sacking them😮😢
OGS The baby faced assassin. Everything was unbelievable until he signed the contract. I often wonder what could have been? 😢 Mike is the same in real life as he is here. It’s been a long long journey
Fred's energy. Thats what cost Ole his job.
why dosnt top level pheelan mentioning Oles ruthless hairdryer treatment witch worked with the players who respected ole till the bitter end..top players publicly said they loved working with ole he had so much more to give esspecially with worldclass back room staff,Yes he mad nieve loyaltie mistakes I dout he would make them mistakes again the hairdryer treatment resignated tro the players as the respect him if he came back unfinished buss the player naturally motivated as they know OLE the real legacy manager United need
I will always love Ole for his time as a player...But he was very limited as a coach - it was sit back and counter attack, which is not good enough for United.
He was badly let down by the board with signings though, Ronaldo being 1 especially, instead of a young mobile striker we needed.
He's always going to be tainted by the 0-5 v Liverpool and the pathetic performance in the Europa League final. McFred in midfield. So many home defeats as well.
Never understood why Mike phelan never went in to management
He literally was assist manager
He did... he looked after Hull and I believe got sacked
Won 6, lost 13 - Win Rate of 25%
Is Ole a manager??no
A fool. He begging for a job. Carlos Queiroz did research
After all this when we're in the Ole era it was a nightmare. Especially with the talent he had at his disposal. ETH has made Ole look better than what he was.
Mike phelan is delusional
Yeah he was just talking.
He didn't really mention the problems..
He refused to mentioned that the players were in control not the manager
Ole was shite! That’s why!
Ronaldo was the difference ole success
Useless!
Ole had 3 yrs , that was 2 to many , the initial run of winning was because it was Mourinho's team not Ole's , to say he hadn't lost the dressing room and they didn't down tools is ridiculous and to pass off the Watford 4 nil loss as a last 10 minute thing shows you why Man U ended up in the very deep and nasty Ole didn't have a clue and obviously neither did Phelan .
finished 2nd two years running......
Ole sign
-Maguire
-James
-Bissaka
-sancho
-Van da beek
-Varane
-Give phil jones contract extension when e cant even play a single epl match
-Let Paul pogba for free because he cant make an acumen decision of whether to let him go while his stil on contract when his market price was still high etc etc.
To sum up hes too green and amicable to be a big club manager.
Snakey penaldo
41 years, then 26, now 11 and counting. That utd era shite is over, no amount of wheeling out the old cnuts will change that