SQUAD vs ARMA Reforger | Which is BETTER in 2025?

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  • @henrikparsgaard9648
    @henrikparsgaard9648 2 дні тому +19

    If it didn't take me 3-4 business days to look through a damn battle sight, squad would be an alright game

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  2 дні тому +3

      🤣🤣🤣 this comment getting pinned

    • @JuliaAckinson
      @JuliaAckinson 2 дні тому +6

      that means you have a terrible squad leader. You are not supossed to walk to the objective. Your squad leader will put you in a car and you will create rally points around the map, then push the objectives.

    • @TheCarlopare
      @TheCarlopare 2 дні тому

      dude its insane. i played squad when it first came out in early access. no vehicle just running simulator. i cannot play it anymore. its trash. Im pretty sure the most out of shape obese individual can run and handle a firearmm better then the armys in that gamme

    • @lewisofthehoood
      @lewisofthehoood 12 годин тому

      @@JuliaAckinsonI think you misread the comment

  • @grillob3
    @grillob3 3 дні тому +14

    I played 1000s of hours on squad. Have not touch the game in a while because, after games like tarkov, ready or not, ground branch, GZW, even arma 2 ace and arma 3 which have really good gunplay. In squad gunplay feels like 80s game, it is not fun. Arma Reforeger gunplay is really good and immersive but my problem is the way the game is now, to play modern guns you have to load in servers which takes forever to setup your gear and then find a ride to the battle field, but when you do it, AR is so much more fun and immersive.

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  3 дні тому +5

      Yea I'm dying for arma 4!

    • @kgeo2686
      @kgeo2686 2 дні тому +8

      Have you played Squad since the new update? They tweaked the entire ICO and pulled alot of it back. People are saying it's the best it's ever been.

  • @RustyBear
    @RustyBear День тому +5

    Bought arma yesterday. Its totally dif but, damn shits fun
    Its like a militia simulator imo. Very cool

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  День тому

      Congrats brother I'll see you in there ;)

  • @Shakshuka69
    @Shakshuka69 13 годин тому +1

    Perfect timing with this video. You're a boss!

  • @JuliaAckinson
    @JuliaAckinson 2 дні тому +5

    Squad is the best. Arma and Squad are not even comparable.

  • @Dunnybunnyx
    @Dunnybunnyx 3 дні тому +6

    Squad #1

  • @NovusInc
    @NovusInc 2 дні тому +3

    Great video man. I'm glad arma 4 was confirmed to come in 2027. I'm sure they'll use the engine to it's full extent and we will have a overall good experience

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  2 дні тому +1

      Hope so! Cheers brother appreciate you 🙏

  • @habel8902
    @habel8902 День тому +1

    I think it makes more sense to compare Arma Reforger to something like Gmod, since they are both sandbox games. Squad and Arma Reforger are fundamentally different games with just some similarities.

  • @Shortmansam1993
    @Shortmansam1993 3 дні тому +8

    Arma Reforger’s main issue is its complexity. I don’t even mean things like tuning the radios and lack of familiar HUD elements to help you. That’s fine and I realize it’s part of why people like Arma.
    However, there’s not a lot of standardization between servers. As an example, you don’t even spawn in a state of readiness. You have to spend time kitting up at the fire base, hoping that there’s equipment, enough light to see, and not an enemy camping the armory. In addition, you may have to sort through dozens of pages to pick the rig or clothing you want, let alone weapon and loadout. On top of this, it seems to be a total crap shoot finding a squad that wants to cooperate unless you’re a regular.
    Do I think the parts of Arma that people like need to change? No.
    Do I think that AR could take steps to optimize certain parts of the game which don’t contribute to this? Yes.

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  3 дні тому

      Fair point brother but yea like you said some people love browsing on what to wear in the armoury

    • @duanewyane2689
      @duanewyane2689 2 дні тому +1

      Messing around the armory in the middle of the map. Such a rookie mistake. Use the armory at the main faction base and you won't have to worry about spawn campers

    • @dot6441
      @dot6441 День тому +1

      main issue is the terrible performance. my system runs squad with 50-60 fps at high settings, reforger with 25-30 fps while looking like a 2006 game

  • @BunkerMonkeyUK
    @BunkerMonkeyUK 13 годин тому +1

    Arma for me every time. The original mil-sim since Operation Flashpoint.

  • @TheChunkyMunk
    @TheChunkyMunk 3 дні тому +2

    As far as optimization goes in my experience squad has been a slideshow with the typical blurry ghosting graphics seen in unreal games, reforger offers better framerate more realistic lighting and detailed textures and objects with a sharp presentation. But in saying this squad devs announced they are focusing on optimizations this year, and likewise with reforger

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  3 дні тому +1

      We must of had very different experiences or settings lol my experience is squad was way more stable in both server performance and game

    • @TheChunkyMunk
      @TheChunkyMunk 2 дні тому +1

      @@TimmyTactical yes squads server side performance especially with large player numbers is much better, but client side performance on squad is lackluster due to its demand for single core performance, this is where reforger is able to utilize more cores than squad, but even then there is room for improvement, I just hope with their move to UE5 they dont go balls to the wall with new more demanding features that will have little impact on the gamplay we all know and love

  • @iplaygames8090
    @iplaygames8090 13 годин тому +1

    one thing that reforger does better is bullet penetration and terain destruction (especially with the new update on experimental) in squad a simple house will protect you from everything, not so much in reforger

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  9 годин тому

      I havent checked out experimental but man tree stumps kill me in reforger lol BTRs can't even get over them lol

  • @kgeo2686
    @kgeo2686 2 дні тому +2

    I want to play a designed game, not a sandbox. Arma was so much work to make my own fun. Turns out all I wanted to do in Arma was Squad. Never looking back.

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  2 дні тому

      That's fair man everyone had there thing:)

  • @kevinambrow5139
    @kevinambrow5139 День тому +1

    They are both fantastic games. Squad has the community win in my opinion if you dont join a Milsim Group. Hop in Squad and say "I'm new, what do I do?" Instantly get help. Team kill: "oh crap dude, im sorry." Pick him up..."no worriees man, I killed a couple last match...it happens". Arma WCS and Darkgru servers arent nearly as helpful or forgiving of mistakes.

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  День тому

      Very different communities arma has a community revolving around creating customs missions and storyline milsim Ops

  • @snuggles3277
    @snuggles3277 2 дні тому +3

    i have played squad since alpha, over 3.5k hours on it now and i can confidentally say squad is the better game BUT what matters more in these games is the community and squads community gets worse and worse with every patch it seems.

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  2 дні тому

      Yea squad community is definitely more toxic haha

  • @gomezdeals4219
    @gomezdeals4219 День тому +2

    My vote is Arma Reforger because it’s on PS5. They can take my money.

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  День тому

      Yep it will be better when PS allows for modding!

  • @RustyBear
    @RustyBear 2 дні тому +3

    4:54. no squad has many Milsim Units and also a Big Modding Team. And 90% of the people ive met on reforger play casual

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  2 дні тому

      Arma has a waaaaay bigger milsim community

    • @RustyBear
      @RustyBear 2 дні тому

      @ small group of friends lol

  • @samuilpetkov497
    @samuilpetkov497 День тому +1

    What is your experience on modded servers for both games?

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  День тому +1

      Havent played modded servers in squad tbh

    • @samuilpetkov497
      @samuilpetkov497 День тому +1

      @@TimmyTactical Thank you for the info and for the great video!

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  День тому +1

      @samuilpetkov497 thank you for watching brother appreciate you 🙏

  • @4Tay96
    @4Tay96 День тому +1

    I love the premise of both these games, but honestly until someone does both of these modes in one game neither will be great. I want to have a super realistic tax shooter that's super confined to rules but also be able to switch up and go to an immersive kind of do whatever you want scenario. Another trend with these milsim type games is that the map is always a hundred times larger than it needs to be. Battlefield went through a similar thing with this where I kept making bigger and bigger maps, until they eventually released a heat map that actually showed that no one plays on the exteriors of the map, so we're all just rendering and having this wasted space on our systems that never even gets used. Maybe 1% of the time maybe? Even in a milsim game. No one's trying to walk 30 minutes or take a Jeep. That's 15 minute drive across the map, 2-3 minutes is perfectly fine. And it's crazy too because people just notoriously call these games walking simulators, And that whole claim gets demolished if they just take away the excess fat of these maps. I would say Arma reforger takes the cake here though, having a milsim game where you could just set it up to whatever you want is where we should be in 2025. Now they just need a semi-decent engine And more reasonable size maps

  • @Lowvym
    @Lowvym День тому +1

    I like that arma alows you to customize your load outs and load the vehicle to mission specific sniper rife, MG, rocked launcher etc, share municipality or loot if you run out anything, just milsim. And is on xbox, ps5, and PC it opens the door for people how are not in to PC, now i play with my friends and family that has console. Buch of misfits lol. Arma gets first in my opinion.

  • @LucasDelgado-v5y
    @LucasDelgado-v5y 2 дні тому +1

    Have a thousand hours on both games, here are my takes, squad is fun when you get a good squad leader or have a friend to play with if not you get yelled at for evrything, reforged on the other hand is a very nice community, you can do whatever you want without getting chewed out, no server requirements, IMO reforger is the best milsim

  • @AUrs0
    @AUrs0 2 дні тому +2

    I squad about 2 months ago and after 90 hours im in love. I still have some learning left to do. I just bought Arma 3 for $5 this week, i want to get into it, but im debating whether i should just start with reforger instead. Thoughts?

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  2 дні тому

      I'd start with reforger for a few reasons but mainly because it's the testing ground for arma 4 so better to get use to the feel. But arma 3 is still awesome with the amount of mods there are

    • @RustyBear
      @RustyBear 2 дні тому +1

      Buy it quick. Sale ends in 7h

    • @contra7631
      @contra7631 11 годин тому +1

      No let him try Arma-3 singleplayer first then come to Arma Reforger.

  • @crizioclips
    @crizioclips 2 дні тому +2

    Arma roferger : Naked man wearing a santa doing flips in a helicopter and fianlly landing 50 meteres outside enemy mainbase for the 8th time.
    Squad: Noone defends.

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  2 дні тому

      I don't know what reforger your playing hahaha

    • @crizioclips
      @crizioclips 2 дні тому +2

      @ WCS “Realisim”

  • @guigam3r374
    @guigam3r374 День тому +1

    Squad in ur5 will look so good

  • @lucasjacobsen2661
    @lucasjacobsen2661 3 дні тому +5

    What a great video!. Arma 4 dropping in 2072! I laughed a little too hard at that! 😂😂😂
    It's hard to really choose a winner, Reforger does edge out squad slightly so i don't disagree with your choice their both great for their own reasons like you've said but now after watching this i kinda lean more towards Squad, I love the community and it's more my kinda playstyle and my pace of gaming. The big plus comes mostly because of the optimisation side of the argument, so flying around in choppers and using tanks feel really good in Squad. I think once Squad ports to unreal engine 5 it's going tick alot more boxes.
    EziMac.

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  3 дні тому +1

      Bro once it ports to UE5 it's going to be amazing. Just hope it stays optimised lol

    • @lucasjacobsen2661
      @lucasjacobsen2661 3 дні тому +1

      ​​@@TimmyTacticalyeah it will for-sure have some bugs once it ports over. I don't thinks it's going to be an easy transition for the devs but give it time after the port to ue5 and everyone will be coming onboard.

    • @ThorKill.Beowulvf
      @ThorKill.Beowulvf 3 дні тому +1

      We get GTA 6 and elder Scrolls 6 before we get arma 4

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  3 дні тому

      @ThorKill.Beowulvf 100% haha

    • @omegacon4
      @omegacon4 2 дні тому +1

      You're laughing at his dyslexia.

  • @bladfadsfblaadsfsadf900
    @bladfadsfblaadsfsadf900 2 дні тому +1

    The customization in Vanilla Reforger is also its downfall. I kinda wish they’d provide preset loadouts other than standard rifleman to stop guys from immediately spawning in a SAW with 1000 rounds and 4 LAWs in a backpack only to be killed by a land mine on some backroad, which often causes the team to lose momentum due to supply consumption.
    I feel assigned roles in each squad would help, almost like what Rising Storm 2 does with allowing a certain amount of Marksmen and Machine Gunners. You can still take more ammo or a new uniform in the arsenal, or grab a LAW for anti-tank, but you can’t be some weird sniper/grenadier chimera that only acts as dead weight for the team. The developers put some good research into the loadouts of their AI, so why not allow players to have one of them as a preset instead of playing “dress up” for half an hour? What they have for the dead Capture and Hold game mode should be applied to Conflict.

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  2 дні тому

      Yea tbh if i judged squad against vanilla reforger squad would win for sure. But I like your idea with assigned roles but still kinda customisable

    • @springbok8876
      @springbok8876 2 дні тому +1

      ARMA allows for equipment looting which Squad does not allow which is why preset locked loadouts works for Squad.
      It is also a detriment to Squad though because it results in an entire squad being easily wiped out by an enemy BRDM-2 because your AT guy was taken out first and now none of your guys can take out the BRDM-2 despite your dead AT guys weapon lying on the ground that you cannot pick up so you have to wait for him to respawn by the time that happens you're all dead.

  • @NastyGrizz
    @NastyGrizz 7 годин тому +1

    I love them both but I play on console so it’s reforger for me

  • @luigisaguier8336
    @luigisaguier8336 2 дні тому +1

    I like Arma Reforger better but where Squad truly destroys Arma is in the vanilla content. Squad keeps adding vehicles, factions, weapons and maps, each feeling unique and AAA, Arma Reforger on the other hand updates incredibly slow and they add minimal stuff compared to Squad patches. It is like Arma Reforger and its devs rely too much on modders but that can end up dividing the community unlike Squad which by having all in one single package allows all players to play together and get the same amazing experience. If Arma 4 manages to include as many factions, maps and content like Squad has without DLCs only then Arma will be able to compete on even ground. The DLC flood caused by the age of bloat (Last 5 years of gaming) has led to studios shutting down and players sticking to older titles. Only 15% of the games played on Steam are new games (release that year). Because of all what I said I do hope that Bohemia Interactive (Arma devs) also copies Squad's update and revenue model. Relying on Modders on such complex engine is not going to cut it anymore in the future.

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  2 дні тому +1

      Unique take man thanks for your insight

  • @RustyBear
    @RustyBear 2 дні тому +2

    BOTH? 🥴

  • @Zink971
    @Zink971 2 дні тому +3

    i run reforger much better than squad. Honestly i don't really have the urge to play squad nowadays due to many factors;
    - logistics structure
    - every update breaks modded servers and they don't really have the amount of customization that arma mods have,
    - the community in arma generally work together more and it's easier to have some sort of teamwork going
    - it has more content
    - gunplay in reforger is straight up better
    - reforger vehicles are less clunky
    - movement is better
    - i like the communication system better in reforger, it get's a little hectic sometimes but at least you have the option to set frequencies so that you can communicate better with the elements of the team in a case by case basis
    - crossplay.

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  2 дні тому

      Yea agree but inhale insane the vehicle combat in squad is awesome

    • @RustyBear
      @RustyBear 2 дні тому +1

      All cap.
      Modded Servers also Break in reforger
      Squad has a pretty much the Same Logistic Elements
      Players base: depends on what Server in Both Games
      Squad has a LOT more content
      And Squads Communication is also solid

    • @Zink971
      @Zink971 День тому +1

      Don't understand how personal experience would be cap but alright.
      - modded servers do break but reforger has a much more fleshed out SDK and mods generally only take a few days to go back online as oposed to squad's modding wich various creators don't put up with having to recode with every update squad has. Dynamic direction and steel division for example, both teams are moving on from squad modding.
      - Squad is very simplified in logistics, you could only compare if you're only gonna be playing conflict. But milsim is another story and with modding logistics in reforger can be further expanded upon. You can have specific elements of a team dedicated to recon, transport, medevac etc.
      - Player base is a hit or miss but navigating reforger's servers are much easier nowadays, specially having the queue system finally implemented
      - Squad having "much more content" can be sumarised to it's vanilla factions, wich there are a few but with modding i feel that reforger has way more potential in terms of quantity and quality of content with ease of access.
      - squad's communication can be a clusterfuck sometimes, people arguing in command channel, chatter in squad channel. At least reforger you have the option to just flatout ignore stuff if you wish to or if it's gonna benefit the team element in some way.
      I really like squad, i've played it for years but recently reforger has ruined squad for me. It's just a matter of preference wich game you're gonna want to play and i find squad very simplistic and focused and i enjoy the milsim aspect of arma a lot more in general. Pair that with terrible optmization on squad's side and you get where my comment came from.
      cheers

  • @riscaper1598
    @riscaper1598 2 дні тому +2

    there is no way arma looks better than squad. Yes the lighting in arma is more life like but thats all. Squad has better textures, much better effects and animations. where as in arma animations feel like they are from rolblox

    • @contra7631
      @contra7631 11 годин тому

      Not really Arma Reforger does have better graphics than unreal engine games because of using their in-house engine

    • @riscaper1598
      @riscaper1598 10 годин тому

      @@contra7631 the use of an engine doesnt mean the game looks better. Yes at the end it's a preference but what you are saying is the same as saying that a toyota corolla looks good cuz it has a ferrari engine.

  • @coltonyeo284
    @coltonyeo284 День тому +1

    If arma had tanks it wpuld would be that much better.

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  День тому

      Yea vehicle combat in squad is fun as!

    • @contra7631
      @contra7631 11 годин тому +1

      I am sure in future they will add tanks for sure because the first flashpoint game in same settings had that.Maybe also official fighter helis.

  • @CrispyGaming92
    @CrispyGaming92 3 дні тому +3

    Awesome video mate! I’d tend to agree with you here. I love squad and it was the whole reason I bought a pc, but after playing both, I personally feel reforger suits my game style over squad.
    I love both games but reforger has given me some of my favourite and most immersive moments in a game ever and ultimately I think it comes down to the Milsim customization it offers!
    Great video again!

  • @gucci_falc
    @gucci_falc 2 дні тому +1

    reforger every day of the week LFG

  • @Dunnybunnyx
    @Dunnybunnyx 3 дні тому +1

    I love 1:48

  • @Birdsofparadiselost
    @Birdsofparadiselost 2 дні тому +1

    Squad Community: 🌈🏳️‍🌈🌈👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨
    Arma Community: 👌

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  2 дні тому

      🤣🤣🤣🤣 man comment section never disappoints 🤣🤣🤣

    • @RustyBear
      @RustyBear 2 дні тому +3

      Eyy. Yall will never experience the logi Rides

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  2 дні тому

      @RustyBear 🤣🤣🤣

  • @alexspasic5508
    @alexspasic5508 День тому +1

    about your "game stability" squad is extremely unoptimized in many ways, i play in 2k on the highest possible settings.(1440p) on a RTX 4060 ti (16 GB Vram), i7 12th gen, no supersampling tech from nvidia nothing, just pure resolution i cant even hit 60 fps. Their optimization and physics are just stupid. ( i got 500 hours)

  • @eillswim
    @eillswim 21 годину тому +1

    Squad was ruined by the ICO update

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  21 годину тому

      Yea it wasn't recieved very well.by everyone. They have made it a bit better again but still too much imo

  • @Ogest88
    @Ogest88 День тому +2

    Did you just say that arma has better graphics?😂 it is a joke? The graphics and animation squad has way better, in arma soldiers walk like they need a poo. Squad has more vehicles and different modes to play. Arma has only better soldier customisation. In Squad, it's easy to find a good team and sl. In arma I played community servers, and it was hard to find someone with a mic. Once I team up with some bloke but then game moved me to other squad, I dont know why. Second time I joined 2 friends from Denmark and we had a nice talk and play, but that's it. Mostly you just join squad and noone speak to you. Arma is good when you have 2/3 friends to play with. Squad is much more fun with randoms. More maps, in arma same points over and over again and 2 maps. Good that are bigger. I played like couple days in arma aand i think i will go back to squad. Arma needs more work, not enough content and too many bags.

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  День тому

      I agree with that when it's vanilla but with modding arma wins

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  День тому

      Oh and graphics way better in arma your capping if you think squads graphics are better lol although squad explosions are way better

    • @FruddyG
      @FruddyG День тому +1

      @@TimmyTactical I haven't played ARMA yet (which is why I'm watching this vid), but you definitely picked a terrible choice of clips to use during the graphics comparison segment. Squad looked great, then the ARMA comparison is a washed out low-poly side of a mountain, low res gun, and the silhouette of a guy stuttering all over the place lmao

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  День тому

      @FruddyG yea that was poor clip choice. What you were seeing was a desert map that had only just been made through modding. Graphics are definitely better in arma lol

  • @PaskoGrbesa
    @PaskoGrbesa 2 дні тому +3

    Squad is a limited and overrated game in so many aspects.

  • @TPMTactical
    @TPMTactical 3 дні тому +3

    I know which one I would choose 😜

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  3 дні тому

      Squad?....🤣

    • @TPMTactical
      @TPMTactical 3 дні тому

      @TimmyTactical Haha

    • @TPMTactical
      @TPMTactical 3 дні тому +1

      @TimmyTactical I actually have over 600hrs in squad from back in the day lol.

    • @TimmyTactical
      @TimmyTactical  3 дні тому

      @TPMTactical haha yea if they added kit customisation I'd fuck with it a lot more

    • @RustyBear
      @RustyBear 2 дні тому +1

      @@TimmyTacticalso u can run around with a machine gun and a AT weapon?