Toyota vs. Jeep Off Road | Jeep Badge of Honor Trail | Dickie Bell
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Join us as we head. out on the trails with a Toyota 4Runner, Jeep Gladiator and Jeep Grand Cherokee. We tackle the toughest section of Dickie Bell Trail in Uwharrie. Little Daniel is filled with step sections and we work hard to navigate different rigs up the trail.
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This is one of the coolest comparisons I've seen. 4runner with locking diff, Atrac and stock height. 2 gladiators differing by lift. 2 grand cherokees differing by drivetrain only. What I like about my WK2 Trailhawk is not needing a lift kit. Add bigger tires and you have well over 11 inches. $3500 in chief products protection doesn't hurt either. And the air lift system maintains ground clearance as weight is added to vehicle. Not so for conventional suspensions. For a trd offroad 4runner to beat it you have to upgrade quite a few things costing quite a bit; plates, rails, tires and suspension.
Do you have anything scheduled in Tennessee this summer?
That screaming though 😂
The GC Trailhawk did that easily, kudos to the car and your wife. BTW Brad, love the hiking shoes!
I was ready to tackle this trail this weekend in my lifted GX 470 but after watching the video, I will probably wait until I have sliders on mine. Great video and comparison of the trucks.
Having done that bit in a 2016 WK2 with QT2, it helped convince my I needed a rig with the ability to do more than my Jeep could provide. Loved my Jeep and always enjoy seeing and wheeling with Brad and family....
Good job rescuing those off-roaders at the beginning of the video. 😎👍❤ Y’all are Trailhawk superheroes 🦸🏻♀ 🦸♂
Great video, thanks! After years of off-roading, I can’t help but cringe to see all these videos of vehicles with subpar 4x4 and/or no diff locks tearing up the trails. Certainly not treading lightly 😢
If you come to Alabama, hit me up! I'll go and represent the (regular) Cherokee Trailhawk. I'm 40 degrees approach, 40 degrees departure, and about 30 degrees breakover with the lift and tires. From the middle of the bottom of rock slider to the ground is about 14 inches. From the ground to the suspension arm's lowest point is about 9.2 inches. If that works. Has a rear locker, so similar capability to quadra drive.
Really enjoyed this trip and the patience/determination both Brad and Lauren offered as guides! Recently upgraded my rig to a Gladiator and look forward to our next time on the trails!
Nice video... these are typical offroad conditions out here... rocky.. peace ✌️ from SoCal
Hi guys from Greece! Although I'm having a blast here with my Overland I so wish I were there with you; this Trail seems like a lot of fu! :-)
Brad, great throttle control at 5:48!
And Lauren, as usual, you prove what an excellent spotter (ok, ok, and driver!) you are!
Say hi to the (growing too fast) children.
See y'all in the Fall.
Thanks Evan!
One of the reason I don’t shoot offroad videos with a drone is that it could ruin the audio of everyone else footages. But other wise, great stuff!
Great vid great people. Some of us know why dude bought a "made in Japan 4runner". .Enjoyed the vid. thx.
Very cool video. You said, not sure why he picked the 4Runner instead of a Grand Cherokee. A. I think both are great off road, but B. He probably wanted the brand known for longevity & reliability, that could also do really well off road. Jeeps are awesome, but honestly, Yotas are known for million mile motors. Thanks for posting. Great driving by the young lady.
He knew that the 4runner would outlast the jeep, can't say I was impressed with their spotting, i'll take a 4runner any day, love my 2016 4runner trail with kdss.
I was laughing when you said that the 4Runner guy bought it after watching your channel!
Im actually started seriously looking at GC Trailhawk after watching your videos. Eventually, I bought one last year. Put all Chiefs Products protection, and enjoying the car a lot!
Just to say that I, too, have a Trailhawk (2020) stock with rock sliders from the factory and enjoy it tremendously! I find it really doesn't need much more!
Вы по Русски говорите?! Из Сша? Если понимаете, у меня тоже трейлхавк очень прочный внедорожник и выносливый
@@user-ii5dx8wh5f Да, я живу в США, недалеко от Сан Франциско. Я от машины в восторге!
@@sergeikuznetcov8240 Я на трейлхавк прошел за два года 100 тыс км у меня колодки еще родные но я много езжу по РФ и с нашими дорогами в ходовой все четко, очень крепко все сделанно ) До гранд чероки был Паджеро 4 местами полный привод блокировки работают очень четко чем в прошлом паджеро 4.
Looks fun. Give me my lumber yard 4 x 4 2500 GMC I drive for deliveries with a half ton of lumber on the back and I'd just cruise up this. Lol Some of the roads they send me down around Algonquin park don't look much better. Haha
I delivered oil to gas wells with a 1988 mack. 1800 gallon tank and it was a beat
That Gladiator is a beast.
Id say as far as SUVs go the Bronco and Wranglers are king for offroading. Lexus and Toyota have the GX and Landcruiser coming back now so get ready for those. The reason 4runners are so popular is bc they make a great budget, body on frame base platform for builds. Their simplicity makes them easier to upgrade for offroad. The Grand cherokees have become too high tech to modify. You also cannot get QD2 wo getting quadralift. I dont think QL is that great for rock crawling bc it limits your tire size. Its ok for occasional offroad or overlanding as long as you have a warranty. Brad has certainly put it to the test and its held up so far. While it can be done the suspension and axles are too hard to upgrade on a GC esp w QL. You cant even put 265/70/18s(32.6) on a trailhawk but maybe you could with wheel spacers(Bora 1.5 hub centric). If not and I was wheeling like these guys, I would save my alloys rims and try to swap out w some steel 17s w 265/70/17 or 32s w more backspace. 33s should be your minimum for offroad technical trails.
To compete w toyota/lexus, Jeep needs a simple, affordable and upgradable suv, perhaps a new Cherokee? The Wrangler is small and not for every one although much improved thanks to bronco. A budget offroad Cherokee from the factory could have solid rear axle w steel springs, 2.5in lift, 265/70/18s(or 265/70/17s like 4R), 4 low w lockers(rubicon system),tow pkg,full size spare, and skids etc.
33s on like 285/70/17s would be even better but hard to fit on a GC wo major mods. On the other hand getting 33s and a lift on a 4 runner is much easier and more available. Nissan could bring back the Xterra but seems the car companies are more into offroad pkgs on their crossovers these days. If you are really serious 35s are best to avoid damage which is why we have Wranglers and Broncos. The Accuair system on a Wrangler is pretty impressive as well. Buy once, cry once.
Hi, great vid. I am actually going there tomorrow. Maybe your still there!
Hello. Good video. The qt2 seems like it is a real challenge to have. Is he using two pedal technique to modulate his speed?
Nothing replace lockers. That is what wk2 missing proper lockers
As always a great video
How much was everyone aired down to? Especially the 4runner?
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing!
Dang dude so much gore I love it
I’d like to join one of your events! I wish you would come to the west coast. There are several badge of honor trails in Southern California 😉
is little daniel on the north or south end of dickey bell?
At 20:35 those max trax would of helped easily.
The camera holder shouldn't talk directly into the mic. Super loud. Just an FYI.
Its tricky to figure out. We are using an iphone to film so it picks up my voice very clearly without holding it near my face. If anyone knows how to change settings to fix that let us know. We agree the voice should be softer.
@@laurenkresge5336 From being in an old guy band for years, mic proximity is very important. Putting more distance between the mic and you basically. Also post processing of the audio in a video with Compression would even out volumes. Compression raises the quiet and lowers the high volumes. That's all I know. :)
@@WisconsinDIYGuy thanks! Can’t hold the phone any further away while spotting but will try the compression.
I feel like, with the brake locking, that you're showing them to use momentum instead of throttle control at LOW RPMs to allow the time it take for braking to kick in. It DOES take a stead RPM,,, not throttle. steady throttle can overrun the RPMs that the braking works at. It's less than 2K RPMs (guessing here) for it to work. Anything over that, it disengages???? Not sure what RPMs exactly. But I've done it both ways, and lower RPMs that are held steady by using good throttle control makes the braking diff thing work SO much better. It REALLY takes good throttle control. Or RPM control more accurately stated. That's my thoughts, but I haven't seen the algorithm used in the programming of these systems. I'm only reverse engineering what I've witnessed. Shall I say prove me wrong? LOL Just guessing, but see if you can prove it one way or the other. I will do the same. ALL of this is a game of finesse. The skinny pedal breaks stuff. You are dealing with newbies, but they have to have a place to gain experience as well. Let's make sure we are accurate on our advise also.
Did he really say why a 4Runner and not a grand Cherokee lmfao. 4Runner is the best vehicle in the group.
4Runner because he knows quality, off road capability and reliability.
I went there with my Trailhawk May 1st
Sweet!
Is there somewhere that I can find info about trails and their difficulty. I have a 2016 Laredo E with the off-road adventure package. It’s totally stock now. I am looking for places where me and my friend can go and see some fantastic scenery without putting my Jeep in too much jeopardy.
Check out the on-x app
What mode was the JGC in at 20m into the video ? was it even in low gear ? and was it in rock mode ?
Yes to both
@@ProdigalOverland pls see this video of the base jgc in Aus. I have this model and it performs as in the video. ua-cam.com/video/AkdAjkAmY3o/v-deo.html
I’m afraid if you plan on doing this kind of off-roading you need a lift and bigger tires.
I don’t know how much use that Toyota has had, but the rest of us how much use and ABUSE over the years that poor WK 2 has had with what I would consider pretty minimal breakage and not much complaint.
trailhawk very durable strong suv!!
The drone buzzing kinda annoying
It is. The tree cover forced it lower than normal.
The spotting is leaving a bit to be desired here. I've done 10 years of ROCK CRAWLING stuff and from what I've seen here, the spotting is not that great. You're spotting newbies. Your driving is SOOOOO much better and you can tell it. Learning throttle control for those you spot is very important to teach them as well as why. Great vids though. I'll be watching and armchair spotting. LOL
Toyota 4runner "throttle what!@???" 😂😂 I'm sure it was his first trail, eventually he'll get it. He definitely needs the foot on the doghouse, and some 2-foot practice.
The wife is way better at spotting, let her do it
Ha! She was on this one for sure!
After listing off a number of things your Grand Cherokee was in the shop for and then you say"I don't know why he bought a Toyota 4Runner?" I think you already answered your own question. With a modest lift and good aftermarket tires, the Toyota will be going where the Grand Cherokees go.
Nice one! pretty sure the yota's find there way into the shop to. :)
@@ProdigalOverland accurate. Everything needs maintenance. I think it's cool that he went his own way though. I love my GC, but the 4Rs are handsome vehicles.
A little variety is always a good thing
@@ProdigalOverland The strength and reliability of the quadra lift pneumatic system have been tested by me!! Trailhawk is a very reliable , hardy SUV with a large resource and margin of safety , no worse than 4runner
They tryna make Toyota and the 4Runner look bad. They all have Jeeps. Also it was horrible spotting.
I own a 4Runner and Grand Cherokee Trailhawk. Trust me when i say that MY Grand Cherokee has been as reliable as MY 4Runner. And for what its worth, I do more offroad stuff in the Trailhawk simply because its more capable. They are both good vehicles though and i consider myself fortunate to have both.
QTRAC 2 is not for off road. It needs a bit more sensibility for hard off road. Land Rover does it much better.