My truck with the 2.5 system tracks straight and drives like a dream with the factory arms, but always good to know there are options. I love this company. Can’t wait for the trophy hitch to hit the market - riding around with a 37 in the bed until then
I appreciate that you installed all shims, then went back & installed the 3 notch & you mentioned in the video that the reading is different than before. We run into that all the time at work w/ 3 Hunter Align. machines & sometimes they can be close to each other & sometimes not. Overall a very great design & explanation of what the product does w/ proof.
man, your kit comes with ALMOST everything. bolts, brake lines, vacuum extension, all that crap that you wouldn't normally get in kits of anything. but, with full deaver rear leafs, it'd be super nice to include the shortened front leaf bolt. and if you could design a bolt on bracket for limit strap, that'd be icing on the cake.
Exactly why we had to redesign them to be quicker to produce. I promise, we're firing on all cylinders trying to fill orders over here. We appreciate you guys bearing with us!
That is a very good product with all the adjustability but if someone ordered them today what is the wait time to get them since the 2 top retailers for Carli are saying 5 months before any radius arms are available?
Exactly to my point in the video - our backorder direct is crazy right now. These will allow us to cut down the manufacturing time and hopefully allow us to start catching up on these backorders!
So you changed a product that people has already ordered and paid for but never got? I would be pretty upset if the part I received wasn't the one I originally ordered.
So, why do y’all stick with the radius arm style suspension and not convert to a parallel 4 link with separate upper and lower control arms? With the radius arms, the caster is “locked” essentially and throughout the suspension cycle the caster is going to change with it. I just feel like a 4 link setup would help with articulation and keep the caster change and bump steer to a minimum. Especially with the suspension travel numbers your kits are capable of.
Hey Rey - good question! We always loved the Radius arm platform and never found it to be a limiting factor requiring redesign given our intended use. If we find significant limitations to the platform, we'll figure out a solution. The 4-link will articulate more and maintain caster throughout the stroke. The Radius arms will only articulate as much as the bushings will deflect acting as a secondary sway-control mechanism without limiting the articulation we need to see from a performance stand-point. You're correct, the caster changes throughout the stroke with the radius arm but this actually keeps the pinion angle in check to avoid binding your driveshaft at the bottom of the travel stroke. The "4-Link vs. Radius Arm" discussion is as old as coil spring straight axle trucks - they both have their pros and cons. In the HD truck platform, we prefer the radius arms for their stability and pinion angle as we're building utilitarian rigs. In a Jeep, it would be a center mounted long-arm 4-link all day but you're not towing anything with one of those! You can see from our videos, the radius arms are not limiting our axle movement!
I have been waiting for my 5.5 Pintop that I ordered mid November to show up, Hopefully any day now. Will I be getting the fully adjustable radius arms?
Have a 19 SD with 2.5 commuter. Drove fine with RL track bar bracket but couldnt stand the tires sticking out more on the passenger side. Went back to stock bracket and switched to Carli track bar. Had to shorten the bar way down to center. Now it pulls hard right. Already have the shims and alignment is spot on. Would these arms help that by adding more castor in general? Might doing a higher notch on the passenger side help. Drives great other than pull. I'm considering replacing the upper stabilizer but feel thats not enough with this much pull.
Are the limit straps required when running these arms? Wouldnt be a big deal if they were bolt on, but for a lot of DIY guys that dont have access to a welder are they required?
Installing a Commuter on my 17 F350 Tuesday. Ordering the radius arms to be delivered about a week later. Given that my truck will be aligned immediately upon installing the commuter kit, can I install these without any shims and not have to get it realigned afterwords? I’m trying to avoid paying someone to install these then align my truck again if I am able.
I haven’t installed my kit yet on my 2020 F350. In your opinion should I just leave the stock ball joint shim in and adjust at the radius arm? If so, what notch # would suggest I put in before I drive over to get an alignment. Or do I also put in your supplied ball joint shim too?
If you're adding our radius arms, there's no need to utilize the ball-joint shim as well. The arms have plenty of correction to address the caster in both lift heights!
Dan, I live in Austin Texas and just ordered a 2022 F-350 Platinum which should be arriving in approximately 60 days (March 1st). Watching your Carli videos has convinced me to spend the extra money and have my truck modified correctly. I don't go off-road and do not pull or haul anything, but I'd like my new truck to me maxed out (4.5 w/37") to include radius arms and sway bar, etc. My first question is about the lead-time on any of these components - I would like to time everything with the delivery date of my truck. And also, are there any changes in the parts for a 2022 . . . will everything fit and work? Please let me know. Thanks
Hey Mike! We don't sell direct but - I'd highly recommend reaching out to one of our stocking retailers for cost/avail. carlisuspension.com/retailers/ The 2022 saw no suspension changes; order away!
We sure do: carlisuspension.com/retailers/ That said, our product is all provided with detailed instructions. Any shop should be able to bolt our parts in; I would just ensure they USE they instructions.
My truck with the 2.5 system tracks straight and drives like a dream with the factory arms, but always good to know there are options. I love this company. Can’t wait for the trophy hitch to hit the market - riding around with a 37 in the bed until then
I appreciate that you installed all shims, then went back & installed the 3 notch & you mentioned in the video that the reading is different than before. We run into that all the time at work w/ 3 Hunter Align. machines & sometimes they can be close to each other & sometimes not. Overall a very great design & explanation of what the product does w/ proof.
We appreciate your appreciation - a lot of effort goes into all product design & testing here, we need to show more of it!
5:21. No shit on the need for more castor! Sole reason I ordered these 5 months ago! Just arrived.
Dan the man! Amazing production quality! Drooling waiting to get my damn stuff on my truck... still waiting on freaking wheels to shop up
Always solid info and products from Dan and the team at Carli 👍
man, your kit comes with ALMOST everything. bolts, brake lines, vacuum extension, all that crap that you wouldn't normally get in kits of anything. but, with full deaver rear leafs, it'd be super nice to include the shortened front leaf bolt. and if you could design a bolt on bracket for limit strap, that'd be icing on the cake.
Now we just need the Torsion sway bars for the 2011-2016 super dutys!
Agreed
One day, that'll happen!
Bad ass ! Thanks Dan !
Love mt Carli springs on my 12 f250 look forward to getting these
Good luck in getting a set. I placed my order with CJC Off-road back in December 2020 and still waiting.......
Exactly why we had to redesign them to be quicker to produce. I promise, we're firing on all cylinders trying to fill orders over here. We appreciate you guys bearing with us!
Haven’t lifted my truck, getting these to add a degree to degree and half caster.
Got them installed. The two notch shim put me at 4.7 degree positive caster. Everything feels much more stable now.
How much caster correction do the radius arm drop down brackets add?
That is a very good product with all the adjustability but if someone ordered them today what is the wait time to get them since the 2 top retailers for Carli are saying 5 months before any radius arms are available?
Exactly to my point in the video - our backorder direct is crazy right now. These will allow us to cut down the manufacturing time and hopefully allow us to start catching up on these backorders!
So you changed a product that people has already ordered and paid for but never got?
I would be pretty upset if the part I received wasn't the one I originally ordered.
Why would you possibly need to mix match shims? Aren’t these all fixed points the arms are attaching too ?
So, why do y’all stick with the radius arm style suspension and not convert to a parallel 4 link with separate upper and lower control arms? With the radius arms, the caster is “locked” essentially and throughout the suspension cycle the caster is going to change with it. I just feel like a 4 link setup would help with articulation and keep the caster change and bump steer to a minimum. Especially with the suspension travel numbers your kits are capable of.
Hey Rey - good question! We always loved the Radius arm platform and never found it to be a limiting factor requiring redesign given our intended use. If we find significant limitations to the platform, we'll figure out a solution. The 4-link will articulate more and maintain caster throughout the stroke. The Radius arms will only articulate as much as the bushings will deflect acting as a secondary sway-control mechanism without limiting the articulation we need to see from a performance stand-point. You're correct, the caster changes throughout the stroke with the radius arm but this actually keeps the pinion angle in check to avoid binding your driveshaft at the bottom of the travel stroke. The "4-Link vs. Radius Arm" discussion is as old as coil spring straight axle trucks - they both have their pros and cons. In the HD truck platform, we prefer the radius arms for their stability and pinion angle as we're building utilitarian rigs. In a Jeep, it would be a center mounted long-arm 4-link all day but you're not towing anything with one of those! You can see from our videos, the radius arms are not limiting our axle movement!
I have been waiting for my 5.5 Pintop that I ordered mid November to show up, Hopefully any day now. Will I be getting the fully adjustable radius arms?
Have a 19 SD with 2.5 commuter. Drove fine with RL track bar bracket but couldnt stand the tires sticking out more on the passenger side. Went back to stock bracket and switched to Carli track bar. Had to shorten the bar way down to center. Now it pulls hard right. Already have the shims and alignment is spot on. Would these arms help that by adding more castor in general? Might doing a higher notch on the passenger side help. Drives great other than pull. I'm considering replacing the upper stabilizer but feel thats not enough with this much pull.
Are the limit straps required when running these arms? Wouldnt be a big deal if they were bolt on, but for a lot of DIY guys that dont have access to a welder are they required?
Installing a Commuter on my 17 F350 Tuesday. Ordering the radius arms to be delivered about a week later. Given that my truck will be aligned immediately upon installing the commuter kit, can I install these without any shims and not have to get it realigned afterwords? I’m trying to avoid paying someone to install these then align my truck again if I am able.
So I'm new to this. Why do you want positive caster on the pickup?
Can I get a step by step on how to instal the limit straps 2016 f250 no direction anywhere
What do you have for a 2005 F450
My commuter kit with all the fixings rattle like a box of crackle jacks. Great kit as long as you don't roll down your window..
That's obviously not normal; give us a call - 888-992-2754 - there's definitely something going on there.
Can you use the Adjustable Radius arms instead of a ball joint shim to gain the desired castor ?
yes sir, that's exactly the point of these arms!
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I haven’t installed my kit yet on my 2020 F350. In your opinion should I just leave the stock ball joint shim in and adjust at the radius arm? If so, what notch # would suggest I put in before I drive over to get an alignment. Or do I also put in your supplied ball joint shim too?
If you're adding our radius arms, there's no need to utilize the ball-joint shim as well. The arms have plenty of correction to address the caster in both lift heights!
What if I installed the shims on the ball joint and the radius arms. My installer did this not sure if I should go back to factory ball joint shims
So, if I ordered mine about 35 days ago. Will I now get these new and improved ones when I get my order filled? 🤔
If you've not received them yet, you're likely getting the new ones!
@@thecarlisuspension Cool. Looking forward to that!
Are these currently available as of today on the market for sale?
Sure are! Retailers from which you can purchased them can be found here: carlisuspension.com/retailers/
Hey Danny Boy, what slot for a tremor with the 2.5 kit.
I'd go 3-notch on that.
Dan,
I live in Austin Texas and just ordered a 2022 F-350 Platinum which should be arriving in approximately 60 days (March 1st). Watching your Carli videos has convinced me to spend the extra money and have my truck modified correctly. I don't go off-road and do not pull or haul anything, but I'd like my new truck to me maxed out (4.5 w/37") to include radius arms and sway bar, etc. My first question is about the lead-time on any of these components - I would like to time everything with the delivery date of my truck.
And also, are there any changes in the parts for a 2022 . . . will everything fit and work? Please let me know. Thanks
Hey Mike! We don't sell direct but - I'd highly recommend reaching out to one of our stocking retailers for cost/avail.
carlisuspension.com/retailers/
The 2022 saw no suspension changes; order away!
Will they be available for the 11-16 super duty?
These fit 2005 - Current Super Duty!
Do you guys have a list of approved installers?
We sure do: carlisuspension.com/retailers/ That said, our product is all provided with detailed instructions. Any shop should be able to bolt our parts in; I would just ensure they USE they instructions.