Another person to add to the Giants' rotation is Hayden Birdsong who got quite a lot of starts for someone who was brought up halfway through the season
to answer your questions about 1b: Wade plays 1b regularly but has injury issues so has been platooning with Wilmer. he's honestly a good defensive 1b, not Belt levels but very efficient when he is healthy - healthy being the key word. the main reason why we haven't signed/gone after someone like Alonso because we are expecting one of our best prospects Bryce Eldridge to make it to the show mid season and don't necessarily want someone blocking him. we were in on Goldschmidt on a 1 year deal as a stop gap for him but obviously that's not an option. unless Alonso wants to go pure DH I don't see us pursuing him so I'm expecting us to platoon wade/wilmer there until Eldridge comes up and starts hitting splash hits and forces them out.
This is my guess as well. I’m hoping Eldridge pushes his way into the starting lineup in spring training but we will see if they give him enough playing time to do that. I don’t want him rushed, but everywhere he went he hit last year.
Agree with everything Jolly said about Verlander. For $15M and one year, it’s not the end of the world if he doesn’t ball out, and I do think having a future HOFer around will be great for the youngsters, including Logan Webb. Given the fatigue that Hicks, Harrison, and Birdsong experienced last year along with Verlander’s age, I can definitively see a 6 man rotation with the exclusion of Webb who will definitely be out there every 5th day. Overall, I’m looking forward to it, it’s giving the same vibes as when Randy Johnson signed a one year deal to end his career with the Giants back in 2009. Plus, Kate Upton. Shout out Trev and the other folks down in SoCal, thinking about you guys up here in NorCal.
As a Giants fan, I think this projected rotation looks completely different than what it will look like at the end of the season. I'm really excited about Birdsong, and Lander Roupp impressed me last year too. You also have Mason Black, Tristan Beck, and Carson Wisenhunt. I am really curious as to which ones step up, which ones fail, and if any are traded.
The Padres being considered as the 4th best team in the NL west is wild. They were one game away from beating the Dodgers and probably winning the WS, and have basically the same team. Arizona and SF have made it closer but haven’t closed the gap yet. -resident Dodgers fan
Are they basically the same team though? Profar and Scott free agents. Darvish a year older. Musgrove out. Toxic cronenworth, machado and boegarts contracts a year older and unmovable. Cease and Arraez eyeing the exit hatch. No moves in free agency. Starting to look like a complete blowup. And I loved their team and fans last year.
Regarding the Giants DH position, you guys didn't mention Encarnation who had a nice end of the season, real power hitter who would be good for his 1st full season, but also L.Matos, who was best player of the week at some point last season at 21 y/o and he just won best rookie of the winter league in Venezuela, playing in 55 games, with a .300 AVG, 10 HR, 66 hits, and 44 RBI. If the Giants could get Sasaki tho'...
Part of the Verlander deal is for him to mentor our young guys like Birdsong and Harrison much like Randy Johnson did with Lincecum Cain and Sanchez in 2009 and the value of that you can't measure in dollars
Surprised there are not more old starting pitchers like Verlander and Scherzer doing what John Smoltz did at the end of his career become eilet closers.
There is a real possibility that Clayton Kershaw and Justin Verlander could face off down the stretch in a meaningful Dodgers-Giants game. That’s a beautiful prospect.
Genuine question, if you put the dodgers against the all NL central team (any player in the division on one team) and they play some amount of games, what’s the dodgers record against that team?
@ skenes is the biggest reason I went with record over a substantial number of games instead of one game or playoff series… he’s the centrals only chance.
Lemont Wade Jr gets on base but rarely scores. He had 331 at bats last year and only touched home plate 45 times. He’s got average speed so he always stays at first unless someone helps him over. I’m holding out for a 1 yr deal for Alonso. Doubtful but hey ynk
There are also a lot of questions on offense. We still don't know if Lee will be good. Will Matos or Luciano take a step forward? Matos did just win MVP in the winter league he was in. Also, I think Wade's time as a Giant might be ending in the next year or two if Bryce Eldridge becomes what we think he can become. Eldridge is one of the main reasons I csnt see the Giants signing Alonso.
To talk apples to apples with players salary for all time earners, I would love to see a comparison to the median earnings from players that played in their era. Every deal is gonna be higher dollars and more lucrative than the last, but how does it shape up compared to what the rest of the league was earning at that time
Could even be the average of the top paid players. Like what is the difference between their career earnings and the top 50 earners of their era to evaluate if they got paid good money or bad money during their time playing
The ad reads have become unbearable. This show wasn’t even an hour long and I had to listen to three stale ass ads that are the exact same every show. Not to mention all of the UA-cam ads. I like to keep my phone in my pocket or listen in the car but I constantly have to skip ads or spam through the same draft kings ad I’ve heard every ep. Please ease up. At least the blitz ball ads are done with🙏🏻
Boys I love you but you can’t put the snakes and D backs over the padres in the NL west even with all the controversy. You can make an argument for the snakes as a close 3rd in that decision but the giants aren’t there. Tatis Merrill Machado cease king darvish. Everyone is freaking out over the lack of moves this offseason but landing Roki alone would put that 1-4 top 3-5 in baseball. The recency bias is getting out of hand padres won 93 games last year and aren’t afraid to make the big move at the deadline like last year if it doesn’t come in the offseason.
Only people who truly hate and talk so much shit about San Francisco are people who have never been that just sit on their ass and repeat whatever Fox News says. San Francisco is an amazing city
Those of us who live here in the Bay Area just laugh at this point. Then we get on with the business of deciding what everyone else’s future will be ten years from now. 😉
Hope Trev and his fam are okay! Praying for him
As a Giants fan, I can confirm, for the time being, that Lamonte Wade does, in-fact, play, the position called first base
Jake got that Optical Illusion fit; that Headache If You Stare At It drip 17:30
Another person to add to the Giants' rotation is Hayden Birdsong who got quite a lot of starts for someone who was brought up halfway through the season
He has the nastiest stuff of all our young arms imo hes only 23 so he could definitely still get better location
Just downed some Zbiotics, a six pack of Corona Extra, and a couple HIMS - I’m officially ready to watch the first Talkin episode of 2025 🫡
Don’t forget to chug a Mountain Dew brotha
@ fuck I knew I forgot something at the store.
I knew I forgot something at the store, damn
@ 😂 oh and don’t forget to place a smooth bet on the draft kings sports book while you’re at it
And don't forget that it's not the first episode of 2025😂
Damn, prayers for Cali friends from here in chilly Texas
to answer your questions about 1b: Wade plays 1b regularly but has injury issues so has been platooning with Wilmer. he's honestly a good defensive 1b, not Belt levels but very efficient when he is healthy - healthy being the key word. the main reason why we haven't signed/gone after someone like Alonso because we are expecting one of our best prospects Bryce Eldridge to make it to the show mid season and don't necessarily want someone blocking him. we were in on Goldschmidt on a 1 year deal as a stop gap for him but obviously that's not an option. unless Alonso wants to go pure DH I don't see us pursuing him so I'm expecting us to platoon wade/wilmer there until Eldridge comes up and starts hitting splash hits and forces them out.
Well this is quite the crossover of my UA-cam viewing
@Oden447 life long giants fan and lifelong civ fan hahah
This is my guess as well. I’m hoping Eldridge pushes his way into the starting lineup in spring training but we will see if they give him enough playing time to do that. I don’t want him rushed, but everywhere he went he hit last year.
Best wishes to coach Trev and his family I hope they’re doing well!
Yall forgot to mention verlander won a league MVP award on the tigers
love when it’s a jolly ep
Agree with everything Jolly said about Verlander. For $15M and one year, it’s not the end of the world if he doesn’t ball out, and I do think having a future HOFer around will be great for the youngsters, including Logan Webb. Given the fatigue that Hicks, Harrison, and Birdsong experienced last year along with Verlander’s age, I can definitively see a 6 man rotation with the exclusion of Webb who will definitely be out there every 5th day. Overall, I’m looking forward to it, it’s giving the same vibes as when Randy Johnson signed a one year deal to end his career with the Giants back in 2009. Plus, Kate Upton.
Shout out Trev and the other folks down in SoCal, thinking about you guys up here in NorCal.
As a Giants fan, I think this projected rotation looks completely different than what it will look like at the end of the season. I'm really excited about Birdsong, and Lander Roupp impressed me last year too. You also have Mason Black, Tristan Beck, and Carson Wisenhunt. I am really curious as to which ones step up, which ones fail, and if any are traded.
At 24:34 - where is that Jimmy Alonso deep dive??? I've looked everywhere and can't find it!
Jolly is a good fill in.
Real rap - I'd like an ep where you guys bring on an expert and talk about what's going on with the Padres stuff. Also, hope Trev's good.
LaMonte Wade is actually a pretty good defender at first, wouldn’t mind Pete at DH in SF
Loving the Jolly O 🙌
As a Giants fan, I’ll take signing any starter over the BP games we’ve gotten out of them the last few seasons.
Would you rather have had Verlander for 15 or Stroman for 12?
The Padres being considered as the 4th best team in the NL west is wild. They were one game away from beating the Dodgers and probably winning the WS, and have basically the same team. Arizona and SF have made it closer but haven’t closed the gap yet. -resident Dodgers fan
Are they basically the same team though? Profar and Scott free agents. Darvish a year older. Musgrove out. Toxic cronenworth, machado and boegarts contracts a year older and unmovable. Cease and Arraez eyeing the exit hatch. No moves in free agency. Starting to look like a complete blowup. And I loved their team and fans last year.
Jake: I don’t know why dodger fans don’t like me
Jake: when is kershaw signing with Texas?
Add one more reason to the list
Would be cool as a Rangers fan but there's no chance. This is like if Matt Stafford to the Cowboys was a rumor every year.
It’ll never happen. If it was gonna happen, he’d have done it already.
It’s not that serious little bro.
@@BassYakCam Agreed
especially after the parade when he went around yelling “dodger for life!” and saying over and over he’s never leaving lmfao
Regarding the Giants DH position, you guys didn't mention Encarnation who had a nice end of the season, real power hitter who would be good for his 1st full season, but also L.Matos, who was best player of the week at some point last season at 21 y/o and he just won best rookie of the winter league in Venezuela, playing in 55 games, with a .300 AVG, 10 HR, 66 hits, and 44 RBI. If the Giants could get Sasaki tho'...
Im so mother loving hungover right now, ive never felt more like an ad read was directed specifically for me
I swear I hate being a Pirates fan the more I listen and the more I watch Jolly’s OOTP 😢
Part of the Verlander deal is for him to mentor our young guys like Birdsong and Harrison much like Randy Johnson did with Lincecum Cain and Sanchez in 2009 and the value of that you can't measure in dollars
Why hasnt bbd been producing? Thought it might be a holiday thing but he is over on wake n jake. Is it just offseason?
Jimmy talked about this on Morning Meeting. BBDs focusing more on Talkin' Yanks.
@robhotz7035 aww I'm going to miss his laughter to trev and Jake's banter
Raise the jolly olive roger
Surprised there are not more old starting pitchers like Verlander and Scherzer doing what John Smoltz did at the end of his career become eilet closers.
There is a real possibility that Clayton Kershaw and Justin Verlander could face off down the stretch in a meaningful Dodgers-Giants game. That’s a beautiful prospect.
the giants haven’t played meaningful baseball down the stretch in years. they’re not about to start now.
James Karinchak needs a spot in a bullpen
I feel like JV with Patrick Bailey are gonna steal a lot of strikeouts
28:48 Jolly not bothering to learn to pronounce Nate Lowe’s name after he failed to perform on Jolly’s Pirates (if only he got strep throat).
Genuine question, if you put the dodgers against the all NL central team (any player in the division on one team) and they play some amount of games, what’s the dodgers record against that team?
Any game Skenes pitches they got a chance, but it’s slim to none
@ skenes is the biggest reason I went with record over a substantial number of games instead of one game or playoff series… he’s the centrals only chance.
Been screaming for Santander to CIN IT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
Lemont Wade Jr gets on base but rarely scores. He had 331 at bats last year and only touched home plate 45 times. He’s got average speed so he always stays at first unless someone helps him over. I’m holding out for a 1 yr deal for Alonso. Doubtful but hey ynk
Where is bbd?
in the fires now glad Trevor is safe it is insane out here, 20 semis flipped over by the winds smoke envelops everywhere.
Given your OOTP streams, you should be mad at the Pirates.
There are also a lot of questions on offense. We still don't know if Lee will be good. Will Matos or Luciano take a step forward? Matos did just win MVP in the winter league he was in. Also, I think Wade's time as a Giant might be ending in the next year or two if Bryce Eldridge becomes what we think he can become. Eldridge is one of the main reasons I csnt see the Giants signing Alonso.
I agree. I can see Pete going to dh in a few years however and I really believe in jhl as he hit the ball so hard even if stats don’t show
if the giants get Alonso, they could be behind the dodgers in wild card discussions
To talk apples to apples with players salary for all time earners, I would love to see a comparison to the median earnings from players that played in their era. Every deal is gonna be higher dollars and more lucrative than the last, but how does it shape up compared to what the rest of the league was earning at that time
Could even be the average of the top paid players. Like what is the difference between their career earnings and the top 50 earners of their era to evaluate if they got paid good money or bad money during their time playing
Reds hittin the pipe if they deal McLain
Soto batting behind Pete Alonso almost automatically guarantees the latter hits 40 homeruns. The Mets have to resign him.
Jake "I got people clapping me" Storiale
Jake is growing a collection of jackets that the crazy guy at Walmart at 2AM that everyone in town knows wears, but it works for Jake for some reason?
I see Jolly, I click #LFGM
Best on the podcast
I will hope and pray that Pete returns and if he doesn't I'm ok with it
The giants did not sign JV to pitch, they signed him to teach all the young pitchers.
They're paying $15 million for a pitching coach? You sure about that?
Seattle fans finally got Trev 😢
15 million for 42 year old Verlander after an awful year is insane.
Saying Verlander's stat sheet is Bonds' level for a pitcher is blasphemy
Bcraw hometown kid, all time starts at SS for us + the other success, I don't think Verlander wears 35 tbh
Why pay 15 million for a washed up pitcher those billionaires love throwing away money
The Giants sign a Senior Citizen. What a joke JV stinks.
Calling it now. CO will break the Sox loss record. Four contenders in the NL west.
FOUR???
The ad reads have become unbearable. This show wasn’t even an hour long and I had to listen to three stale ass ads that are the exact same every show. Not to mention all of the UA-cam ads. I like to keep my phone in my pocket or listen in the car but I constantly have to skip ads or spam through the same draft kings ad I’ve heard every ep. Please ease up. At least the blitz ball ads are done with🙏🏻
Jesu the blitz ball ads were annoying.
Boys I love you but you can’t put the snakes and D backs over the padres in the NL west even with all the controversy. You can make an argument for the snakes as a close 3rd in that decision but the giants aren’t there. Tatis Merrill Machado cease king darvish. Everyone is freaking out over the lack of moves this offseason but landing Roki alone would put that 1-4 top 3-5 in baseball. The recency bias is getting out of hand padres won 93 games last year and aren’t afraid to make the big move at the deadline like last year if it doesn’t come in the offseason.
Reds should trade for Robert Jr
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How would a poor, semi-literate Yemeni woman know ANYTHING about cashapp?
Only people who truly hate and talk so much shit about San Francisco are people who have never been that just sit on their ass and repeat whatever Fox News says. San Francisco is an amazing city
Those of us who live here in the Bay Area just laugh at this point. Then we get on with the business of deciding what everyone else’s future will be ten years from now. 😉
Jolly just tryna talk about HIS Pirates now he got them in playoffs
Free Trevor Bauer
Putting the padres in 4th in their division after being the MLBs 2nd best team in 2024 is crazy! (Coming from a biased padres fan)
Trade mclain hahaha, hey jake puff puff pass my guy!
High key jolly > trev on TB