I don't even know why I expected less, but this is absolutely phenomenal. Even more ease than Melchior with the most difficult phrases of the aria and seemingly endless power.
Die Partie des Lohengrin gehörte auch zum Repertoire von Mario del Monaco, allerdings in der Muttersprache des Sängers, und neben der Walküre (in deutscher Sprache) war Wagner jedoch eine höchst seltene Ausnahme. Um so mehr ist diese Aufnahme mit einer Wiedergabe der Gralserzählung in deutscher Sprache ein Novum. Die Artikulation ist blendend gelungen, ganz im Gegensatz zu den meisten etablierten Wagnertenören, die gelegentlich Konsonanten oder ganze Silben verschlucken oder abschleifen und eine marinierte Gestaltung an den Tag legen. Mario del Monaco war zwar von Richard Wagner fasziniert, aber für einen italienischen Tenor ist Wagner ein schwieriges Unterfangen. Das Wagner-Fach erfordert das Hauptaugenmerk eines Künstlers und keinen gelegentlichen Ausflug im internationalen Kunstwesen. Wie schon zum Ausdruck gebracht, ist die Diktion des Vortrags ganz vorzüglich gelungen; in Technik und Schönheit einfach brillant, und mir fällt gegenwärtig kein Sänger ein, der diese Arie besser dargeboten hat, sehe ich einmal von dem wunderbaren Max Loenz ab..
Oh, well ... they won't be able to criticize Del Monaco for being just a loud voice. This is truly wonderful. What a magnificent singer. Old School Singers, Thank you !
…indeed those calling him just „ a loud singer“ lack knowledge and mostly the ability to judge human voices technically. A big voice, and MDM really had, remains big over the entire dynamic range, from pp to ff. MDM had it all! RDS
@@rdargenio One way to know that this was recorded post-retirement, is to read his biographies, and to listen to interviews from his retirement (post accident years). Wagner's operas were not part of Del Monaco's repertoire. He was not known as this type of tenor. He played this recording for interviewers, in the final years of life, and explained that he had sung this sort of for his own enjoyment, and also just to show that he could master the Wagnerian style. To be fair to others, known for performances of Wagner's work, Del Monaco recorded just this song, and never performed it live, in with all of the other requirements for this heavy duty, industrial sized opera.
@@rdargenio Respectfully, this is not from the 1950s. He never performed this live, as a full opera. In my opinion, he sounds wonderful and amazing, but I happen to know from reading his biographies and listening to interviews, that he made this recording for his own enjoyment (not as a paid performance) in a studio, late in his life.
Wow! A real Heldentenor in this music. And his German is better than Domingo - he gets the closed ‘e’ sound right. Bright, ringing, free tone. And today we have Kaufmann ‘ingolata’ and Vogt ‘senza voce’. I wish he had gone to Bayreuth. It’s clear from this recording that he was willing to chasten the ‘slancio’ of his Italian style - perhaps he felt uncomfortable by this point with having to sing such a long opera in a language and manner not his own. But I found the singing here quite brilliant.
Non so se questo mio commento solleverà polemiche, secondo me Del Monaco sarebbe stato uno dei più grandi Lohengrin,rimasi impressionato dalla sua prima registrazione se non vado errato su Voce del Padrone, in italiano, con un centro così ricco e bronzeo e con quella dizione (non c era bisogno di libretti) avrei voluto sentirlo in altri ruoli wagneriani, resta comunque uno dei più grandi.
Wieland Wagner wanted DM in Bayreuth but he didn't t accept. When we hear this we can feel umhappy because Mario would have been a great helden tenor. Wagner would have foumd his St Paul with him. His diction in German is maybe not peerless but the voice, Wow. Great.
Beh, il suo tedesco lascia un pochino a desiderare, e l'interpretazione e pure un pochino patetica, condita un pochino col verismo, ma concordo con Lei. Sì, Del Monaco ebbe la stoffa del Heldentenor, e in questa occasione l'aveva egregiamente dimostrata. Per giunta, fu capace di aggiungere un raro piano. Non fu Lauritz. Ma fu Del Monaco, un idolo, anche come Lohengrin,
Some strained passages, less than perfect German and I doubt that he really has worked on the interpretation. Nevertheless this is quite good and the voice itself is of course glorious. Much preferable to everyone singing the role today (and many of the "great" in the past).
Ganz meine Meinung! Es war das Problem von Mario del Monaco, dass seine Stimme nicht wirklich wandlungsfähig war und sich nicht den Eigenheiten von einem Wagner anpassen konnte. Er hat eigentlich alles immer gleich gesungen.
Wagner hat selber gesagt, dass man zuerst Bel canto Still beherrschen muss, bevor man meine Musik zu singen. Und man muss viele Sache von Bel canto nehmen fuer meine Musik. Wagner schreibt auch ganz viele Bel canto Sachen. Del Monaco war auch kein Bel canto Saenger, sondern Verismo! Das hat mit Bel canto auch nix zu tun. Bel canto ist nur Rossini, Bellini, Donizetti, und fruehen Verdi, ab Simon Beccanegra ist die Musik von Verdi auch kein Bel canto mehr.
Nach meiner Meinung singt er den Lohengrin eher wie einen Chenier. Also kein Belcanto. Nichtsdestotrotz orientiert er sich an einer klanglichen Linie, falls Sie dies mit "Belcanto" meinen. Dies ist aber in den alten und sogenannten "großen" Aufnahmen bei allen Wagnersängern so. London, Nilsson, Völker, Lorenz, Mödl usw. Was ein Sänger mit "italienischer Art" zu singen bei Wagner zu leisten imstande ist, hat nach meiner Meinung Jisef Metternich als Telramund gezeigt. Bzgl. der Interpretation stimme ich Ihnen vollumfänglich zu. MDM versteht eindeutig nicht, was er singt und ist nur auf einen möglichst eindrucksvollen Klang seiner Stimme bedacht.
Ich finde es eigentlich umso besser so. Grade die gralserzählung hat gesungen viel mehr Wirkung als gebrüllt. Bei einer Siegfried Schmiedszene wäre es was anderes, aber ich finde den sehr ausgesungenen Ansatz hier ideal.
Very ignorant comment,try reading others posts here,you find many agreeing with you.For an Italian singing a guttural language is very difficult,he does a fine job and was the greatest dramatic tenor ever,regardless of what you think.
It's "not his repertoire" but goddamn, we would all kill to have someone this good sing this these days
I don't even know why I expected less, but this is absolutely phenomenal. Even more ease than Melchior with the most difficult phrases of the aria and seemingly endless power.
Del Monaco never fails to consistently impress me...
Die Partie des Lohengrin gehörte auch zum Repertoire von Mario del Monaco, allerdings in der Muttersprache des Sängers, und neben der Walküre (in deutscher Sprache) war Wagner jedoch eine höchst seltene Ausnahme. Um so mehr ist diese Aufnahme mit einer Wiedergabe der Gralserzählung in deutscher Sprache ein Novum. Die Artikulation ist blendend gelungen, ganz im Gegensatz zu den meisten etablierten Wagnertenören, die gelegentlich Konsonanten oder ganze Silben verschlucken oder abschleifen und eine marinierte Gestaltung an den Tag legen. Mario del Monaco war zwar von Richard Wagner fasziniert, aber für einen italienischen Tenor ist Wagner ein schwieriges Unterfangen. Das Wagner-Fach erfordert das Hauptaugenmerk eines Künstlers und keinen gelegentlichen Ausflug im internationalen Kunstwesen. Wie schon zum Ausdruck gebracht, ist die Diktion des Vortrags ganz vorzüglich gelungen; in Technik und Schönheit einfach brillant, und mir fällt gegenwärtig kein Sänger ein, der diese Arie besser dargeboten hat, sehe ich einmal von dem wunderbaren Max Loenz ab..
Oh, well ... they won't be able to criticize Del Monaco for being just a loud voice. This is truly wonderful. What a magnificent singer.
Old School Singers, Thank you !
…indeed those calling him just „ a loud singer“ lack knowledge and mostly the ability to judge human voices technically. A big voice, and MDM really had, remains big over the entire dynamic range, from pp to ff. MDM had it all! RDS
Hearing this makes me wish more Italian tenors would have explored Wagner. Del Monaco is incredible in this recording. Wow!
Mario Del Monaco, Wagners Walküre, Stuttgart 1966, ich war 19 Jahre alt, unvergessen bis an das Ende meiner Tage!
Mario all day and every day of the week over mr.kaufman,what a voice,and this is recorded in his declining years...priceless
@Amante dell’opera I am not sure, it sounds like his 1950s sound to me. Can the original poster give us the recording date?
1966 stuttgart according to another poster,either way he was long past his very best after 1963,and here he still vey much sounds great
@@amantedellopera1681 I agree he sounds great here but will bet my house this recording was made in the 1950s.
@@rdargenio One way to know that this was recorded post-retirement, is to read his biographies, and to listen to interviews from his retirement (post accident years). Wagner's operas were not part of Del Monaco's repertoire. He was not known as this type of tenor. He played this recording for interviewers, in the final years of life, and explained that he had sung this sort of for his own enjoyment, and also just to show that he could master the Wagnerian style.
To be fair to others, known for performances of Wagner's work, Del Monaco recorded just this song, and never performed it live, in with all of the other requirements for this heavy duty, industrial sized opera.
@@rdargenio Respectfully, this is not from the 1950s. He never performed this live, as a full opera. In my opinion, he sounds wonderful and amazing, but I happen to know from reading his biographies and listening to interviews, that he made this recording for his own enjoyment (not as a paid performance) in a studio, late in his life.
Wow! A real Heldentenor in this music. And his German is better than Domingo - he gets the closed ‘e’ sound right. Bright, ringing, free tone. And today we have Kaufmann ‘ingolata’ and Vogt ‘senza voce’. I wish he had gone to Bayreuth. It’s clear from this recording that he was willing to chasten the ‘slancio’ of his Italian style - perhaps he felt uncomfortable by this point with having to sing such a long opera in a language and manner not his own. But I found the singing here quite brilliant.
I agree completely. This is astounding. He remains one of the greatest.
Thanks! This is my favourite version now! Just how heroic his voice here!
Seu timbre em várias Óperas é casamento perfeito com a orquestra.
Non so se questo mio commento solleverà polemiche, secondo me Del Monaco sarebbe stato uno dei più grandi Lohengrin,rimasi impressionato dalla sua prima registrazione se non vado errato su Voce del Padrone, in italiano, con un centro così ricco e bronzeo e con quella dizione (non c era bisogno di libretti) avrei voluto sentirlo in altri ruoli wagneriani, resta comunque uno dei più grandi.
This sound is so grand!! How glorious!
Senza paragoni. Stupendo. Bravissimo
Una gloria de la lirica de todos los tiempos
ONE of the best
Semplicemente eccellente grande maestro Mario del Monaco
Grandissimo ed eroico!!! Come avrebbe desiderato lo stesso Wagner...
Wieland Wagner wanted DM in Bayreuth but he didn't t accept.
When we hear this we can feel umhappy because Mario would have been a great helden tenor.
Wagner would have foumd his St Paul with him.
His diction in German is maybe not peerless but the voice, Wow.
Great.
Maybe not " peerless" ( would be too much yo ask ,haha) ,yet quite good, and as you said~ with this voice WOW!!! Have a Happy St. Valentine , Ingrid
His German diction is quite good.
I’m sure his German diction would have improved with time and coaching.
A revelation!
Wow fantastico
Wonderful!
Wow!
Nice
Bravo maestro
Glorioso! 💛💫
Wow, never knew MDM, sang im German 😱😱
Wagners Walküre, Stuttgart 1966
Bravo del Monaco! Better sung than anybody in German, just about. (German is pasable but not precise).
"The One Who Could Always Be Heard" - Monaco - funny story behind that title, of course!
His German needed some work, but great singing.
Sua voz em várias Óperas aquela rouquidão inexistente em outros timbres é o tempero da orquestra.
Em várias Óperas de Verdi é imbatível.
Thank you for posting!
Questa è un'opera adattissima alla vocalità e temperamento di Del Monaco...non so se il tedesco è buono, ma l'interprete non delude...
Si, 'e abbastanza buono 👍
Beh, il suo tedesco lascia un pochino a desiderare, e l'interpretazione e pure un pochino patetica, condita un pochino col verismo, ma concordo con Lei. Sì, Del Monaco ebbe la stoffa del Heldentenor, e in questa occasione l'aveva egregiamente dimostrata. Per giunta, fu capace di aggiungere un raro piano. Non fu Lauritz. Ma fu Del Monaco, un idolo, anche come Lohengrin,
Non mi intendo! Ma so che amava tanto quest'aria! Che impegno! Che foga! Che fascino!
tenor god
I’m not a big fan or MDM but this is very good.
Purtroppo non esiste la registrazione del suo Lohengrin alla Scala negli anni '60...
Some strained passages, less than perfect German and I doubt that he really has worked on the interpretation. Nevertheless this is quite good and the voice itself is of course glorious. Much preferable to everyone singing the role today (and many of the "great" in the past).
He sings as if La Traviatta would come after this.
Ma cosa vuol dire???
Er hatte andere Stärken....
Die Stimme ist gut, es klingt aber nicht überzeugend. Man kann Wagner nicht wie belcanto singen!
Ganz meine Meinung! Es war das Problem von Mario del Monaco, dass seine Stimme nicht wirklich wandlungsfähig war und sich nicht den Eigenheiten von einem Wagner anpassen konnte. Er hat eigentlich alles immer gleich gesungen.
Das war kein belcanto, bitte! Italienisch, ja, möglich, aber nicht belcanto.
Wagner hat selber gesagt, dass man zuerst Bel canto Still beherrschen muss, bevor man meine Musik zu singen. Und man muss viele Sache von Bel canto nehmen fuer meine Musik. Wagner schreibt auch ganz viele Bel canto Sachen.
Del Monaco war auch kein Bel canto Saenger, sondern Verismo! Das hat mit Bel canto auch nix zu tun.
Bel canto ist nur Rossini, Bellini, Donizetti, und fruehen Verdi, ab Simon Beccanegra ist die Musik von Verdi auch kein Bel canto mehr.
Nach meiner Meinung singt er den Lohengrin eher wie einen Chenier. Also kein Belcanto. Nichtsdestotrotz orientiert er sich an einer klanglichen Linie, falls Sie dies mit "Belcanto" meinen. Dies ist aber in den alten und sogenannten "großen" Aufnahmen bei allen Wagnersängern so. London, Nilsson, Völker, Lorenz, Mödl usw. Was ein Sänger mit "italienischer Art" zu singen bei Wagner zu leisten imstande ist, hat nach meiner Meinung Jisef Metternich als Telramund gezeigt.
Bzgl. der Interpretation stimme ich Ihnen vollumfänglich zu. MDM versteht eindeutig nicht, was er singt und ist nur auf einen möglichst eindrucksvollen Klang seiner Stimme bedacht.
Ich finde es eigentlich umso besser so. Grade die gralserzählung hat gesungen viel mehr Wirkung als gebrüllt. Bei einer Siegfried Schmiedszene wäre es was anderes, aber ich finde den sehr ausgesungenen Ansatz hier ideal.
Wagner revolcándose en su tumba: por deficiente entonación, voz sin matiz y fuera de estilo.
¿Alguien que recomiende para escuchar esta misma pieza?
Del Monaco had no business singing Wagner. In fact he had no business singing opera. Ugh.
Go back to your mother and sit on her laps and then complain that your schoolmates school are teasing you.
What tenors do you like?
Such nerve! Who are you to dictate who can sing Wagner?
Turn off your troll-o-phones and he'll sound better.
Very ignorant comment,try reading others posts here,you find many agreeing with you.For an Italian singing a guttural language is very difficult,he does a fine job and was the greatest dramatic tenor ever,regardless of what you think.