So You Wanna Go Off Road? What You Need to Know For Your First Time!
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Matt from CJ Off Road hits the the AOAA Trails to help you prepare for and tackle your first off-road adventure.
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Start 4wheeling before mods. Logging roads are great beginners tracks. Get an air compressor, air up when you are done. Buy a shovel, you will need one. Don't go alone. Tow straps and d rings. SLOW DOWN! know how to use transfer case. Join a 4x4 club with family runs, trails can be easier. Take lots of pictures, see what 4x4 is doing. Don't let someone talk you into doing something you don't feel good about , not without good spotter. Much in this video is good advice, but you don't need a modified vehicle to get started. Have fun and be safe.
^this^
Thanks
yup most this stuff shown could be done in a Subaru or a CX5. Smart driving, good tires and a well equipped safety oriented group will get pretty far.
I'm a noobie. What air compressor would you recommend?
@@stripcslashes how tall are your tires? Do you plan to upgrade soon? Do you have wheeling friends to talk to?
Smitty built makes a portable that can air up tires up to 33 inches if your budget is limited. ( Around 90 dollars). I usually recommend not only a compressor but an air tank as well. Look up someone like 4 Wheel Parts or Quadratech and search air compressors and accessories. Do some shopping and get back to me with any questions you might have. The only bad questions are the ones you don't ask.
I liked the video, but telling people they need a lift to off-road sounds like an attempt to sell parts and could be discouraging. Get out there in your stock rig, learn what it's capable of, and then decide what mods you need for the wheeling you want to do.
I can dig that, trust me we all start somewhere, but a lift kit and tires will help you on the trail!
Matt CJPP hey, thanks for replying. I totally agree, I just don't want people to think they can't go because their rig is stock. Mine came stock with mud terrains and that has been a huge advantage, so I agree even more with regard to tires, but a stock suspension will do surprisingly well and it's also great experience to learn how to navigate with less clearance. I will be installing a lift soon as well, so I'm not saying they are bad or a waste. Again, I just want people to give off roading a shot regardless of their state of mods.
Wheel it until it breaks...then replace it with something better!
Exactly, it's a Wrangler it can do anything
My WJ was super capable stock. I am installing a conservative lift soon. I'm thinkin training riding stock will give me more appreciation for my lift after I run with that.lol
Don't forget.. Read ur owners manual on your vehicle! Before any trails. When & how to shift.
Learn what are the recommended mph/ speeds & terrain to travel at when in 4Hi, 4Lo, 4 Auto, etc.
Once you get to know your vehicle & what its capable of- Off roading becomes much more fun.
Dont forget you can still have a ton of fun and do some pretty amazing things in a bone stock jeep.
Yup!
It’d be pretty sweet to see a video like that.
Agreed. I'm not saying that the stock jeep can take on the black or red trails; but I saw nothing in this video that an all stock jeep couldn't handle. I hope beginners don't feel like they need to spend thousands on aftermarket add ons just to have fun with their jeep on a trail, I think that's an all too often misconception. @ 4:52. I drove on some crazy trails with the stock Goodyear Wranglers; but like you said it's always encouraged to go with someone just in case ;)
Me and a buddy took his brand new Jeep Patriot to Manistee national Forest in Michigan and I have to say I was pretty impressed with what that bone stock "not a real Jeep" could do.
3" lift. Winch.. Hi-lift. Bout all i run.
You forgot one of the mosy important things to have when wheeling. TOILET PAPER. Never leave home with out it
Yeah your certainly don't want to accidentally use poison ivy!
If so you can always use your underwear , socks , t-shirt sleeve ECT 😁
It's mid COVID-19. You better hope you have a bottle bidet! 😂
@@CJBroncoF150 required tools off roading,,2 lb hammer,sockets,screw drivers,belts,hoses.clamps,300 psi air compressor.slime,plugs,valves,spare pants jumper/shirt.gps,locator beacon,most important,,remote search,recovery helicoptor.if your in a blazer,,2 r/h cv,s..
@@catrashoo yesss hahaha
How about wear your seatbelt. rollovers are very common in offroading. why temp getting crushed.
John Martin He has the lap portion on, but the shoulder belt behind him. Not nearly as effective in a rollover or sudden deceleration.
Funny thing, there was nothing in the obstacles that you showed that a jeep right off the showroom floor with standard AT tires would have gone through just fine. I run much rougher trails with just a stock JK, jeeps are amazing. I have hit the trail with many people who spend big money on lift kits and tires and so far I have gone everywhere they went. I have never buried my stock JK, they are amazing right off the showroom floor and if you are cautious you can hang out with the people who spend the big bucks on lift kits and oversized tires. I guess unless you are rock climbing a stock Jeep is all you need, especially in the trails you showed with your video.
@1:18 if you’re gonna air down, make sure you have at a minimum a 12v portable air compressor, or a friend/gas station near the end of the trail that can get you back Aired up.
I'm going off road this weekend for the first time , thanks for sharing.
Glad we could help!
Hey jeepers, there are 54" tires for sale. If you re-gear to spin them fast you might even be able to paddle across water with them.
The hard part is making them fit. And don't forget the prayers you'll need for the axels and drive shaft holding it together
Airing down affects the length of the tire. Though it does make the tire slighly wider at the sidewall, its the length thats affected
One big thing never go alone.
It's more fun in a group anyways! Thanks for watching!
Good all-around video for the beginner. You can always pick up something by watching them closely.
Appreciate the feedback!
Thanks for that, trying to get more people out on the trail and be able to enjoy their rigs!
Good video and great information. The advice for going into 4wd, preferably low, when you hit the trail is spot on. Don't wait till you are stuck! If you are a newbie, follow someone more experienced to learn the lines. BTW. You used the term 'tow point' where the D-Ring would go on the back bumper, it's a recovery point. I know what you meant but just adding clarity.
Ya know what, this actually helped. I didn't know what to expect with off roading. I thought it was all sketchy stuff but it looks like there's some good options for a jeep that's not dedicated to offroading
We're very glad this video helped and yes there are options for your daily driver jeep too that you dont want to destroy!
Thanks for that, and honestly you can have a lot of fun on the trail and not damage your rig!
bought 02 dakota 4x4 never had a 4wd car before. super excited to take it off road with my friends
Wheels are way too big on the yellow jeep, u barely have any sidewall once aired down
I would go with less wheel and more sidewall but to each his own. I run 37's on 17" wheels but my rig is more of a weekend driver. Those big tires, after getting chomped on by the rocks, are hard to balance. If it was a daily driver I might go with a bigger wheel to make the on road manners a bit better. Keep Jeeping!
But the stance is perfect for the mall !
It has an angry bird grille, what more you expect?
That single fact will keep me from watching anything more than this one video. That single fact is the hardest thing for people to understand; what you put on your vehicle, could actually hinder your ability. Not everything you buy will help, a lot will hurt, those rims included
I have seen litteraly hundreds of failures becouse of this.
The white Jeep is my favorite! I met you guys at Bantam and need those fender flare like the Yellow Jeep has installed.
It was great meeting you! Heres a link the the Yellow JKs flares www.cjponyparts.com/fender-flares-flat-style-jeep-wrangler-jk-2007-2018/p/580305/
Thanks, the white jeep is my favorite too!! HA
Matt CJPP we talked on Sunday. You told me all about the mods you did. Very hard to remember everyone I’m sure.
Awesome video. That's the only thing California has that is nice and that is the Rubicon and Fordyce trails. Those are a lot of fun.
Been hoping to make it out to the Rubicon some day, thanks for watching!
I live in california, fordyce and rubicon are not for beginners. Lots of trails in southern and central cal for beginners. Don't get them in over their head before they learn how to swim.
I’m 11 and just bought me a truggy so ima go hit the trails after this 😎
"Good old pennsylvania swamp mud"
*Laughs in south Georgia*
“Laughs in South Georgia “
Laughs in Florida
If you're a new offroadr, you won't have maps 'cause you don't know how to get them. You also will have issues FINDING trails to drive, and people to drive with.
Great video for beginners. Really great editing I like the cinematic style it’s what I go for in my videos
Thanks for watching!
Great vid man. Love your jeep. Dont have one... yet, but I've been definitely looking to get one. I want to try the offroad and just getting the jeep all dirty! Lol. What kind of jeep would you recomand and what first mod or mods would be best for a newbie?
I'm an introvert so I go on offloading hunting trips alone. I bring my gun, ammo, food for 10 days, a shovel, winch, a few m80s, 5 gallons of gas and water, a small chainsaw or an axe, a compressor, flat repair kit, a few wrenches and my hunting knife.
I've been in trouble many times but I'm still alive.
Aw I take my fixed up JLU to the mall all the time!
What’s up everyone, I am new to the Jeep lifestyle. I bought a brand new Jeep Willy’s edition in 2020 and thus far I have a rough country 3.5 inch lift I removed the rock slides and added some nfab rails, II added a ZRoadz 50 inch light bar and I am ordering a stubby to add this week. I need advice and all suggestions are welcome because although I’m not trying to be a rock climber yet, LOL, I do want to take my jeep to the trails as I am an avid outdoorsman, thank you everyone love the CJ pony videos very informative.
I guess I am a pro I've lived in the south Sonora desert a mix of wet and dry mountains from snowy to hot loose shell rock and cliffs at every bend.
Heck I've seen people drive small 4dr cars lol.
What park is this in?
My stock JL suspension with spacers articulates just as well as a JK with 4” and antirocks. Anything more is extreme and for the beginners this is geared to, not necessarily needed. Only issue is that sway bar.
Sean LeCheminant yep, sway bar prevents articulations more than Springs or spacers. I have a 2.5” spacer lift on my wife’s JLU and never ran into a problem with it.
Nice video... really helpful info
I've got through that stuff with Highway tires 😂😂😂
I just bought a Jeep some months ago and want to go cruising on a trail with doors and top off. I have some form of off-road tires or could be all terrain tires but they aren't the stock jeep wrangler tires. I don't plan to get into major trail riding or off roading because of my 3 jobs and time. I just want do light trails with mud here and there..like taking back roads. Would a stock jeep with spacers be alright since it's mostly dirt and mud ill be riding through?
I don't have friends with jeeps (car meet type) so im alone but I do have "Snow Claws" that got me out of mud and some Nylon rope to pull stuck people out of the snow on snow days.
Love the jeeps but that was basically just some gravel and small puddles. 2hi and highway tires go through that. Just sayin
Busted....
Highway tires can’t crawl up rocks... What do you mean?
They can. Especially in that video. They just can’t do the large stuff. I understand it’s just a beginner video but u don’t need all that stuff n money spent just to have a little fun like in the video. Only if u plan on getting more serious.
lol, spotter...
AesirApex man ax
Thanks guys
I just bought a jeep gladiator Willy's. I have tru lock rear axle with no sway option. What are my limitations on off-roading. ?
Luckily I grew up offroading i know how to spot what to bring and how to pick a line. Also was this a raush??
Great video for a newbie like myself. Thank you.
Can I do this with a Nissan Frontier 4x4 or similar trucks from Chevy/Toyota?
No XJ's Hmmm 89 Grand Cherokee what lift would you put on it ? and what size tires and wheels? Thank you in advance
Depends on what size tires you're looking to run, if you want 35's you'll probably need about a 6 inch lift, and a long arm in the front to make it perform better.
ZJ my bad
well was thinking about a 3" to 4-1/2"
I’m new to jeeps. What type of lift and tires are you running
Can I do this with my civic?
How it go? I saw Carwow get a bunch of old hatchbacks and off road in them. That was interesting.
What size wheels and tires are on the yellow jeep (where you show it aired down)? Are they 37's on 20"? What are your thoughts on wheeling on 20's vs 17s?
disregard i found my answer in one of your other vids
They are 35 x 12.5 x 20 Inch nitto trail grapplers
17 are definitely better off-road as you get more surface area (larger print ) on the trail when you air down recommended tire pressure to air down is 8psi does not matter the size of the tire from stock to 40’s! If you’re running headlocks you can air down even lower. 15 psi is way to much air on the trail. If you’re running 15 psi and not having difficulties that means you’re over landing and not offroading
Did bee line at aoaa in my 3in lifted cherokee on 33s without any damage....never should have done it though. Took me and my group 4 and a half hours and costed a tj a broken frame.
step 1. buy a 2 door.
step 2. dont put low profile tires and huge wheels.
step 3. go slow and dont listen to woman spotters
I've accomplished step 1, and 2, and part of 3...
Rick James unless the spotter is Brittany from Lite Brite.
Unless its she owned stepchild jeep
What wheels the ones on the black / dark grey JL with the US flag front and also the one on the white one?
Yeah I know all that
I was just reflecting on what exactly he said
The footprint will not get wider it will however get longer and make for a better ride
I have never HAD to air down myself
I do think drivers put too much stock in the air down thing
Good sensible driving will get you a long way
Low range and throttle control works for me
I have never been in a situation that I felt airing down would fix
That said it’s your Jeep do what ya want with it
It works for me. The ride is much smoother on the rocky shelf roads. And you will get more grip crawling up things. If you don't need to air down then great! Like you said, do what ya want with it! My rig is a bit older (35 years) and runs leaf springs all around. For me the experience is better when aired down to about 12 to 15. You might try it once and see if you like it better!
I like to split the difference between extremes. I run about 23 psi on the trail and it provides a good chunk of the benefits without downsides. Softens up the ride, improves traction and I don't have to worry about the bead or lose any ground clearance.
One reason he didn't mention for airing down is that it assists with the tire being more puncture resistant because it can mold itself around other obstacles and things that would normally pop a hole in a fully inflated tire. Airing down is pretty key, makes for a comfortable ride and better grip on slick rock mud etc.
Allan. Airing down is a requirement for certain trails. You won’t get far if you don’t air down in sand. Take superstition ohv or glamos or pismo. You also won’t get far if you don’t airdown on the rocks like bronco peak, any of the jv runs, iron cross, and some of the Moab runs.
Pay Way
Well like I said I’ve never felt the need to air down
Driving skills make a huge difference in my humble opinion
However it’s your Jeep do what you want with it👍
And by the way I live in Arizona and rock
crawl play in sand and mud when it rains and even snow up in Flags
So I know a bit about Jeeps and Wheelin been doin it 40 years
Again it’s your Jeep do what you want with it
Peace🤙
Who makes the grab handles with side mirror attached?
Good info
"You can seized up your engine bay"
Amazing how much you need to crawl, but my Jeep goes everywhere I wanna go when I go fishing or hunting
This is the top comment!!!!!!!!
Do guys have a video of basic upgrades you need to go off roading?. I have plane stock sport wrangler jk. See alot videos. I like to get alot of info.
Simon Ramirez you’re ready to go already. No upgrades necessary.
If you want to get into more intense wheeling, best first 3 upgrades are most expensive but will let you wheel just aswell as a fully built rig. #1 lockers and or lsd (limited slip) that will turn your so called 4wd into an actual 4 wheel driven vehicle. # gears to accommodate for the size of tires that you want to run. # 3 a winch so that when you get stuck you don’t have to always expect someone else to help you out because they bought the tools for themselves and not for someone else to ruin them. Lastly 32” tires with no lift will perform very well on most vehicles depending on what vehicle
Soft shackles... HIGHLY RECOMMENDED in a recovery kit...
Is it true that in Penn it is illegal to ride doorless in a jeep, even though it not a mod and is part of the OEM type design?!?!
Some very sound advice. Good tips.
I Have an ZJ 98 Grand Cherokee 5.9L Magnum Thinking about lifting it 3" to 4-1/2" what size tires would you recomend
Your still waiting 2 years later for a reply. So hi. :D
are you guys still doing this ? I’m in Jersey can I come ?
I'm sorry! But I really have to ask where are the obstacles? Most of video you were driving on are unpaved roads, so basically it's a normal pennsylvania road and even better, some roads in philadelphia are much worse than those trails you're driving on, and people drive through it with golfs and corollas
where in PA are you Guys located at? i’m in Erie. with the Erie jeep people club .
Harrisburg
Does it matter what gear in 4low?
Are there off road club for beginners?
What park in PA was thats?
Can I person do some wheeling in a stock jlu rubicon any close the Fairmont Wv
Yes for sure a stick rubicon will take you on a lot of trails across the globe just remember to use 4low air down and be aware of your surroundings.. also always be safe and don’t do anything you don’t think you can do. But also you may attemp if being smart about it
Nice video.
Cheers from Sweden
Thanks!
sweet low profile tires!
Does it have to be a jeep?
What park is that and where is it?
This was at AOAA, it is in Northumberland County, Pennsylvania. Stay tuned as we will be having a park overview video released here shortly!
Oh that’s funny he’s PA too
What gear ratio are you running?
JL: 3:73
Yellow JK: 3:21
My JK: 4:56
Off-road 101. Put your seatbelt on to keep you inside in case of a roll.
I off-road in a Saturn on jeep trails where most jeeps in my city never touch. It's always fun to park next to those pavement princesses covered in mud.
Guys I need help I have 4 cylinder YJ but idk if it’s capable of off-roading
What mirrors are those?
No one talks about sway link disconnecting?
good video
Jeeps. A proper Mans machine.
Arg Arg 😎
Haha thanks for watching!
Yeah my wife loves hers... 🙄
don't forget to 22 inch rims.
This video was just a bunch of ads and over exaggerated
Where are the F-150's?
I HAVE PLENTY OF FLEX WITH MY 2 INCH SPACE LIFT
Lol the same sound effect on Minority Mindset channel intro.
Yee Yee
Hell yeah brother!
"Run you stick bastards!"
Hahaha
Pennsylvania swamp mud?
Yup!
didn't know Pennsylvania had swamps.
First buy jeep second bring the kids/grandkids/great grandchildren
The wheels on that yellow Jeep are too big (diameter).
Which trail is this?
This is AOAA Trails!
www.aoaatrails.com/
awesome thanks! i'll be making a trip up from Baltimore
First step for me is to stay away from big fancy wheels most normal 4wd's should have at least 15-18inch wheels anything bigger is just dumb due to next to no tyre profile low profile tyres offroad is just dumb
Why removing the spare part tyre?
That was just the look we were going for.
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My honda civic could make it through that first green trail
I'll take a car up that ! Thats onroad driving.
No seat belt?
We try to tell him 😑
What about that seat belt?????
Where's the CJ? 2.5 mins in and he hadn't stopped talking.
#1 rule when offroading. Wear your seatbelt. Which the guy who made this video failed to do.
A miata coulda done that trail.
Take it to AOAA and see if it can!
Any body on New Orleans wanna go. I have no jeep friends lol. Jeeps here are only for show
Airing down doesn’t make the tires much wider?? it makes the grip much longer more rubber on the ground
Ya lost me there
Allan Wagner basically what he meant is it makes the footprint longer on the tire. Allowing for better traction. It also molds around rocks and things of that nature. Makes the ride smoother also when there are a lot of whoops as you know. Stay safe on the trails.
Allan Wagner it makes them wider a little. Using the footprint analogy, it will make the footprint longer. Also, hard tires do not form around rocks and stuff on the ground ‘grip’. Also carry a 60$ portable air compressor and airing down is always an option.
Even for street tires in winter, it’s easy to see 2x the traction by dropping 5-10 pounds of air. If you’re worried about gas mileage, that 40$ a year you’ll save isn’t worth it.
It depends in the load of the tire also. A lighter tj or jk will not deform a load E tire until you get 10 pounds in them. A load C is easier, but not as tough
C W yes sir ! When running low pressure, you just go to be more professional. If you don’t have bead lockers (fastens and seal the tires completely I the wheel), you can spin them (when your wheels spin but the tire tread is stuck and stationary) or compress and Debora the bead enough - both leading to the blowout (but not puncture). You can also hit something hard enough where the tire can not absorb it and it dents the wheel.
You’ll notice a difference on these videos of the out of control retards that just go fast, and more professional or intelligent drivers that go slow. The idiots break a lot of parts and spend most of their supermarket shelf sticking paycheck on fixing their equipment. The professionals spend more time driving and having fun.
You rarely need to go fast over anything. If you do, it should be extremely rare and not a constant go-to strategy. With ok tires, but aired down, you can get easily double the traction. Just play around and test it on a steep dirt solid trail.
Splashing through water at high speed is for those idiots too. Filthy water gets all over everything and unless you completely wash the undercarriage and parts, the dirt gets in and causes damage. So unless you like cleaning like a women ... well, it’s fun once.
You’ll see drivers giving it just enough power, in complete control, and it looks almost effortless. Nothing feels better )
The only thing that stops people from airing down is not having a portable compressor to air back up - or laziness. They are so cheap, anything above 60$ is reliable enough.
It also makes it harder to puncture the tire. Think of how easy it is to pop a balloon that is really full of air compared to one that is only kind of blown up. But you have to be cautious when you do lower the tire pressure. Fast corners are not recommended, you can unseat the tire from the wheel. And you need to air up to proper inflation before spending time on the highway at any speed.
3:20 Nothing says "classy" like having a funny sticker portraying the murder of children.
Thanks for pointing that out! Gotta get that decal
great tips! subscribed.