“4th and 9 for Allen and the Bills. 5 seconds left in the game, the Bills on Miami 23 yard line, down by 2. And it looks like Josh and the offense are staying on the field”.
@@danno7466 Oh, it's a statement of hope on my part... Otherwise, I think we should eat the cash loss, and take a reliable kicker when one becomes available.
Joe, I really enjoy listening to you dissect and analyze the Bills. I’m also happy you are so positive, but I’m just so skeptical and nervous with Bass kicking for us. I feel like we can immediately chalk up one or two losses as a result of Bass’ kicking. It pains me to say that, but everyone is biting their nails whenever he gets up to kick a field go, even if it’s a chip shot. Its a real shame because Bass was someone we could count on a couple years ago, and then suddenly he just fell apart.
Oh crap, I was hoping T Bass would come around, still we have some time. Maybe a trip over the bridge to the Canada ballet could loosen him up. Cook can come around as he looked good last season (yeah critical drops aside).
Good Morning Joe. Enjoy your day. Joe what I like most about your podcast is you have moved on from Diggs. Most Bills TV broadcasters and podcasters lack foresight to move on. There will be a new #1 wide receiver appear. You can’t develop a #1 until the season starts.
@@sweetspike I’m not sure it not about caring about football. I never thought he wanted to come to the Bills. Even on draft day he was not smiling and happy!
I think if T. Bass was around 85%, nobody would complain too much, but it is a concern. There is a reseason that they call Chicago the "Windy City", so if a kicker there can hit 90%, then he should be able to do it in Buffalo. James Cook and his drops and fumble issues is a mystery, considering his scouting report coming out of college was his "receiving skills" was his strength. But, I think if there was fumble issues, it didn't show up because he didn't carry the ball a whole lot in college. There might have been a reason for the low carries.
The coaches don't know who their starters are, with health issues and so much transition this year. They are doing the shotgun approach, while hoping the cream rises to the top. The fact things are so unsettled approaching preseason game 2 is certainly a departure from the "automatics" that were the training camp players bound to be starters of the past few years. Keep calm and carry on, and hope McDermott & co. see elite performances and not "I guess this will do".
I think Bass has lost his focus. Needs to get back into football mode. A coach needs to address this with him instead of giving him a break. He needs to play at the value he is paid.
So 6/11 of the teams with +90% rates were dome teams. The 5 outside teams, only the Chiefs had a competent offense, even then they really struggled early. Seems more likely the teams would burn out in the red zone and kick 20-30 yard FGs, which statistically over the decades have a 90% success rate. Meanwhile all last year the Bills were stalling at midfield and choosing between converting 3rd and forever, or kicking +45 yard FGs. The high end of odds from 45 yards is maybe 85% depending on source, average falls off to maybe mid-upper 70%. A strong wind, which is pretty much a constant in Buffalo, probably makes a 45 yarder more like a 55 yarder, which league wide is a coin flip at best. Edit: And when you kick from further, especially in wind, you need to kick lower and get more horizontal velocity on the ball, which also makes it more likely to be blocked or tipped. Kicking from shorter ranges it's not as much of a problem because you are kicking it more vertically.
I think they want to keep Claypool. He had a strong mini camp just unfortunate he got hurt. Think they’ll stash him on PS and bring him back when he’s healthy. I’m definitely worried about Tyler Bass confidence especially after he missed that FG vs. Chiefs. He was very good prior to the contract which is why they paid him. It’s all mental with him. James Cook is a one trick pony. He struggles in pass protection and ball security. With the offense Joe Brady trying to run I think they want a more balanced RB. Decent player but I don’t really see him in the Bills future long term.
It's a long season. Strength, conditioning, nutrition, recovery are disciplines that can make or break a team's chances for reaching and achieving in the post season. This is not a deep team at skill positions. Injuries happens so I expect all the WRs and RBs that make the team will need to contribute without a legit "go to" outside Josh Allen. Keon Coleman and Ray Davis will need to be effective for this Bills team to do any damage this season.
Both positions need to be upgraded. Tyler Bass needs to be cut and Cook needs to either be traded or have him play in specific situations. Sign another back
Thank goodness the Bills have Josh Allen. This team would struggle to win a game without him. He’s probably the best QB in the NFL. His situation reminds me of Tom Brady with the Pats with subpar talent round him.
What is becoming a trend or recurrent issue is Beanes inability to put together a quality roster in key areas to help augment his one unquestioned great roster addition of Allen. How many things have failed tho with recurrent wr issues that lack quality or depth or revert to drama issues from the past with examples being diggs and claypool ( sorry , I called this immediately as zebras , or divas , don’t change stripes or behavioral issues. Beane has codependent issues and his ego makes him think he can fix problems that more than one prior gm had already failed at. Taking the rose tinted ego filtered glasses off allows anyone to have seen the claypool issue before he arrived in buffalo. Yes , how does an undisclosed toe injury go from a day to day issue to being an IR issue; well without beane being willing to be transparent about the injury , it only stands to reason old character issues are responsible and this is beane driven). This hodgepodge of wr’s will doom this season , just as signing the cheap dolphin wrs last season who produced in one game only and nothing in the playoffs. Here beane goes again ; mostly a victim of his own bad signings with an aging miller, prematurely signing bass to a deal that has cost us a SB shot last year and is already rearing its ugly head ( or foot) once again. Punters have been nonproductive and failing to have the courage to wait out the truth on the Ariza issue , will leave more bitterness just like trading away lineman prematurely as they went to Cleveland and excelled. Now we also have recurrent issues with a back that had 1 decent year , but has critical drops and fumbles that are more noteable than his one productive yardage year as we watch him go down with any contact. Not going to mistake cook for Thurman in any phase of being a productive back , ever! We were asked to endure old backs way past their prime in gore and Murray and just because we have Josh , there is no forgiving the stubbornness in relying on backs who can’t be relied on for short yardage, to catch the ball , and certainly not to be productive in the red zone , near the goal line , with any consistency. Now because of poor cap management or inability to be forward thinking , we now can add safety as a weak roster area , and he took one area of strength which was a consistent o line last year, and has created a recurrent theme with a line that was blown backwards in the entire first preseason game. Maybe they will jell , but the majority of beans tenure the o line has been mediocre more than they have excelled. So just a few weeks before the 7 th year of having a unicorn franchise qb, here we go again as injuries begin to look bothersome enough to expose the lack of roster depth ( didn’t even mention the ridiculous backup qb situation ) , and we are also dealing with a 1 st year dc and barely a 2 nd year oc . Winning franchises don’t keep having the same issues every year , but BILLS FANS are expected to accept the same recurrent issues all while saving up to afford the psl’s of a new stadium with a product on the field created by Big halter beane that most likely will still be without a Lombardi just as they have always been. I hope I’m wrong , but being a fan since ‘ 63 , and having watched every SB pass my favorite team by , it’s more likely I will unfortunately be right again as it looks like this season is again unlikely to finally be league champions. It might be time then to move on from this Carolina way of doing things!
I’m no math professor but I don’t think 11 is nearly half of 32. If I’m correct it’s just barely over a third. If you finish 11th from last place out of 32 in a race do you say I almost beat half the field? Lol
Joe, let's put this squarely at the feet of the man who has consistantly made our ST worse since being hired: Matthew Smiley. Last year, we started drives after kickoffs at the 18 yard line on average, even though any kneeldown would have had us start at the 25. In the final game of the season, Smiley decided that the shriveled and injured corpse of Sam Martin would be better than a fully healthy Matt Haack. As a result, Martin shanked two punts in KC, giving the Chiefs great field position. When did Bass's performance start to falter? The last two years, conveniently after Smiley was named ST coordinator. Are we really giving Smiley a pass just because Nyheim Hines ran back two kickoffs vs the Pats? Because outside of that, ST has been a mess ever since McDermott fired Heath Farwell because Leslie Frazier couldn't stop a nosebleed against KC in 2021.
But Bob will say now we can’t win no games our linebackers not here what happened all those defensive players last year that stepped up they should be good. Where are they?
Cook drops basically every big play pass attempt that goes to him. He was last in the NFL in yards after contact and he fumbles. I actually see no place for him on this team because he can't catch you don't want him as a third down back because he can't break tackles you don't want him on the first two downs he is garbage in short yardage. I would see how he does with the new kick return and if he's bad at that just ship him off.
Bass is a big worry imo. Super shaky and lacking confidence. Obviously the strongest part of our team is Josh Allen. I believe that you take your biggest strength and make it unstoppable if you can. I like the WRs but I believe getting a bonafide star would put our offense over the top. DaVante Adams would make it special. Imagine Adams Shakir Samuel Coleman with Kincaid & Knox. A man can dream 😂
No cap space. Creating it or backloading a contract only creates bigger problems next yr and moving forward. They drafted Coleman and Kincaid in back to back years. They need young cost controlled talent. That’s how good GM’s with QB’s making top money do things. You’re just going to have to get used to it.
@@jp12696 That’s how teams never make the Super Bowl with one of the top QB’s in the league. You are not KC. They have a HOF TE the Bills don’t have it!
We finish 8-9 mcdermott finally gets fired and hopefully the new coaches bring in a proven quarterback coach and a proven veteran for josh allen to learn from . Instead of keep bringing mitch trubiski to learn from . Allen is immature and needs a veteran im almost positive joe flaco would have happily signed with buffalo. Yes flacco wasnt the best quarterback but he is proven!!! He is a winner . But mcdermott and beane live and die with the drafts . Allen gets injured buffalo doesn't win more then 6 or seven gsmes . Again our depth is mediocre especially at key positions and injuries are already stacking!!! Cornerback safety esp Bishop Already has a brokwn shoulder rapp is not solid in in coverage . Why not bring back Hyde?? He would glady sign back in Buffalo Its going to be a long frustrating season
I understand that you have to practice but can we stop talking about how good they look in practice every team looks good in practice lets talk about what are we going to do about the run defense, 3rd down stops, qb protection, getting a ACTUAL DEFENSIVE COACH because Shawn mcDermott ain’t getting the job done and brandon bean sucks at drafting players Talk About That!!
“4th and 9 for Allen and the Bills. 5 seconds left in the game, the Bills on Miami 23 yard line, down by 2. And it looks like Josh and the offense are staying on the field”.
Bass will be better than that. Please.
@@mathieuguillet4036 Just being sarcastic bud. And he better get it done.
@@mathieuguillet4036 He sure as hell better be given what we're paying him
@@danno7466 Oh, it's a statement of hope on my part...
Otherwise, I think we should eat the cash loss, and take a reliable kicker when one becomes available.
Yep, there has to be someone
Joe, I really enjoy listening to you dissect and analyze the Bills. I’m also happy you are so positive, but I’m just so skeptical and nervous with Bass kicking for us. I feel like we can immediately chalk up one or two losses as a result of Bass’ kicking. It pains me to say that, but everyone is biting their nails whenever he gets up to kick a field go, even if it’s a chip shot. Its a real shame because Bass was someone we could count on a couple years ago, and then suddenly he just fell apart.
Agree, even the kicks he makes including extra points are iffy, nothing right down the middle.
@@robertfield4103 It’s crazy, every time that dude kicks I’m cringing…
I was really hopeful Chase Claypool would be a contributor in Buffalo.
He may yet be.
I'm glad he's gone
@mathieuguillet4036 No he's done with the Bills for the year.
@IntroducingMrLucci it's a chance he can come back sometime this year
@@brandonburns5365he’s already on IR, means he’s out for the season
Go bills! I’m excited too see Matt Milano back this season.
Oh crap, I was hoping T Bass would come around, still we have some time. Maybe a trip over the bridge to the Canada ballet could loosen him up. Cook can come around as he looked good last season (yeah critical drops aside).
A trip to the Canadian Ballet is always good for the attitude. Is the Sundowner still in business? It's been a minute for me...
Hopefully Cook & Bass can get a sports psychologist to clean up these issues. Milano only needs one arm!
Good Morning Joe. Enjoy your day. Joe what I like most about your podcast is you have moved on from Diggs. Most Bills TV broadcasters and podcasters lack foresight to move on. There will be a new #1 wide receiver appear. You can’t develop a #1 until the season starts.
Here we go already. Injuries injuries injuries.
At least we're not the vikings
Yes just heard that’s too bad
Cook needs to stop fumbling and dropping the ball. He started his career fumbling against rams and now his drops might shorten his career
He is not going anywhere in the next few years. He made the difference last season! Best player on offense outside of Allen
dealing with this year he’s a huge piece you could threaten more playing time for Davis, but he’s a fumbler too
@@markgolden6265 seems like he doesn’t care about football
But the way Buffalo is Matt Milano‘s out that means I can’t win no games all because of one player they’re losing motherfucking tame.
@@sweetspike I’m not sure it not about caring about football. I never thought he wanted to come to the Bills. Even on draft day he was not smiling and happy!
Claypool will end up a Saskatchewan Rough Rider. Probably sooner than later.
Yeah, he is looking like a CFL player more and more. Good league though!
Really good show today Joe.
Thank you!
I think if T. Bass was around 85%, nobody would complain too much, but it is a concern. There is a reseason that they call Chicago the "Windy City", so if a kicker there can hit 90%, then he should be able to do it in Buffalo. James Cook and his drops and fumble issues is a mystery, considering his scouting report coming out of college was his "receiving skills" was his strength. But, I think if there was fumble issues, it didn't show up because he didn't carry the ball a whole lot in college. There might have been a reason for the low carries.
Bass is not good enough to make 90% but we are stuck with him for now
COREY DAVIS!
Please Sign Him!
The coaches don't know who their starters are, with health issues and so much transition this year. They are doing the shotgun approach, while hoping the cream rises to the top. The fact things are so unsettled approaching preseason game 2 is certainly a departure from the "automatics" that were the training camp players bound to be starters of the past few years. Keep calm and carry on, and hope McDermott & co. see elite performances and not "I guess this will do".
Cool better watch!!! Frank Gore Jr. don’t look too bad!!! And I wanna see more of Ray Davis!!!
I hope Jr gets a chance to run with the twos this weekend.
Joe, what's your favorite offensive play? Don't say victory formation😅
I think Bass has lost his focus. Needs to get back into football mode. A coach needs to address this with him instead of giving him a break. He needs to play at the value he is paid.
Time for a new kicker. Don't let this go any longer.
man I had such faith in Bass
So 6/11 of the teams with +90% rates were dome teams. The 5 outside teams, only the Chiefs had a competent offense, even then they really struggled early. Seems more likely the teams would burn out in the red zone and kick 20-30 yard FGs, which statistically over the decades have a 90% success rate.
Meanwhile all last year the Bills were stalling at midfield and choosing between converting 3rd and forever, or kicking +45 yard FGs. The high end of odds from 45 yards is maybe 85% depending on source, average falls off to maybe mid-upper 70%. A strong wind, which is pretty much a constant in Buffalo, probably makes a 45 yarder more like a 55 yarder, which league wide is a coin flip at best.
Edit: And when you kick from further, especially in wind, you need to kick lower and get more horizontal velocity on the ball, which also makes it more likely to be blocked or tipped. Kicking from shorter ranges it's not as much of a problem because you are kicking it more vertically.
No one’s reading that whole thing
Could you explain what an “injury settlement “ is? I’m sure it’s self explanatory, but how do they come to the number.
Don’t kick a field goal! That’s the camp I’m in ! 4th and go for it!
You rule Joe
He’s learning all that how to get over from Miller.
I think they want to keep Claypool. He had a strong mini camp just unfortunate he got hurt. Think they’ll stash him on PS and bring him back when he’s healthy.
I’m definitely worried about Tyler Bass confidence especially after he missed that FG vs. Chiefs. He was very good prior to the contract which is why they paid him. It’s all mental with him.
James Cook is a one trick pony. He struggles in pass protection and ball security. With the offense Joe Brady trying to run I think they want a more balanced RB. Decent player but I don’t really see him in the Bills future long term.
This is year twelve for Sam Martin, he’s proven
It's a long season. Strength, conditioning, nutrition, recovery are disciplines that can make or break a team's chances for reaching and achieving in the post season. This is not a deep team at skill positions. Injuries happens so I expect all the WRs and RBs that make the team will need to contribute without a legit "go to" outside Josh Allen. Keon Coleman and Ray Davis will need to be effective for this Bills team to do any damage this season.
I do worry that the Bills are not happy with their group of WRs when they keep signing so many.
Both positions need to be upgraded. Tyler Bass needs to be cut and Cook needs to either be traded or have him play in specific situations. Sign another back
Yeah I'm really wondering about Cook.
Lots of challenges this week. Hopefully they have a good and healthy showing this weekend. Losing optimism a bit tbh.
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Thank goodness the Bills have Josh Allen. This team would struggle to win a game without him. He’s probably the best QB in the NFL. His situation reminds me of Tom Brady with the Pats with subpar talent round him.
Misread the title and thought we signed Superman from the 90s.
Quite concerned the WR corps might not be as promising as expected with Chase Claypool not working out as we hoped
Don’t need that trash can of a player.
did cook have a ball security issue in college?
What is becoming a trend or recurrent issue is Beanes inability to put together a quality roster in key areas to help augment his one unquestioned great roster addition of Allen. How many things have failed tho with recurrent wr issues that lack quality or depth or revert to drama issues from the past with examples being diggs and claypool ( sorry , I called this immediately as zebras , or divas , don’t change stripes or behavioral issues. Beane has codependent issues and his ego makes him think he can fix problems that more than one prior gm had already failed at. Taking the rose tinted ego filtered glasses off allows anyone to have seen the claypool issue before he arrived in buffalo. Yes , how does an undisclosed toe injury go from a day to day issue to being an IR issue; well without beane being willing to be transparent about the injury , it only stands to reason old character issues are responsible and this is beane driven). This hodgepodge of wr’s will doom this season , just as signing the cheap dolphin wrs last season who produced in one game only and nothing in the playoffs. Here beane goes again ; mostly a victim of his own bad signings with an aging miller, prematurely signing bass to a deal that has cost us a SB shot last year and is already rearing its ugly head ( or foot) once again. Punters have been nonproductive and failing to have the courage to wait out the truth on the Ariza issue , will leave more bitterness just like trading away lineman prematurely as they went to Cleveland and excelled. Now we also have recurrent issues with a back that had 1 decent year , but has critical drops and fumbles that are more noteable than his one productive yardage year as we watch him go down with any contact. Not going to mistake cook for Thurman in any phase of being a productive back , ever! We were asked to endure old backs way past their prime in gore and Murray and just because we have Josh , there is no forgiving the stubbornness in relying on backs who can’t be relied on for short yardage, to catch the ball , and certainly not to be productive in the red zone , near the goal line , with any consistency.
Now because of poor cap management or inability to be forward thinking , we now can add safety as a weak roster area , and he took one area of strength which was a consistent o line last year, and has created a recurrent theme with a line that was blown backwards in the entire first preseason game. Maybe they will jell , but the majority of beans tenure the o line has been mediocre more than they have excelled. So just a few weeks before the 7 th year of having a unicorn franchise qb, here we go again as injuries begin to look bothersome enough to expose the lack of roster depth ( didn’t even mention the ridiculous backup qb situation ) , and we are also dealing with a 1 st year dc and barely a 2 nd year oc . Winning franchises don’t keep having the same issues every year , but BILLS FANS are expected to accept the same recurrent issues all while saving up to afford the psl’s of a new stadium with a product on the field created by Big halter beane that most likely will still be without a Lombardi just as they have always been. I hope I’m wrong , but being a fan since ‘ 63 , and having watched every SB pass my favorite team by , it’s more likely I will unfortunately be right again as it looks like this season is again unlikely to finally be league champions. It might be time then to move on from this Carolina way of doing things!
Working out a retired Corey Davis shows they know the Wr core is mid.. not a fan of cOleman was plenty better that should've been drafted...
The new "narrative" is that we might get CD Lamb... 😂
Do you think center going be a problem???
I’m no math professor but I don’t think 11 is nearly half of 32. If I’m correct it’s just barely over a third. If you finish 11th from last place out of 32 in a race do you say I almost beat half the field? Lol
Come on ! These guys are paid huge . Pros , they should be hardened and ready . Injuries in preseason , inexcusable ! Same old same old ! Nuff said .
Why don’t you ever look into the camera?😊
Joe, let's put this squarely at the feet of the man who has consistantly made our ST worse since being hired: Matthew Smiley.
Last year, we started drives after kickoffs at the 18 yard line on average, even though any kneeldown would have had us start at the 25.
In the final game of the season, Smiley decided that the shriveled and injured corpse of Sam Martin would be better than a fully healthy Matt Haack. As a result, Martin shanked two punts in KC, giving the Chiefs great field position.
When did Bass's performance start to falter? The last two years, conveniently after Smiley was named ST coordinator.
Are we really giving Smiley a pass just because Nyheim Hines ran back two kickoffs vs the Pats? Because outside of that, ST has been a mess ever since McDermott fired Heath Farwell because Leslie Frazier couldn't stop a nosebleed against KC in 2021.
But Bob will say now we can’t win no games our linebackers not here what happened all those defensive players last year that stepped up they should be good. Where are they?
Tyler Bass needs a sports psychologist.
Deon Cain was HIIIMMMMM in College!! Camp body tho!! Smfh
He was fun for sure at Clemson!
Why are we bringing in more WRs when we already have like 8 we are sifting through?!? 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️😂
Cook drops basically every big play pass attempt that goes to him. He was last in the NFL in yards after contact and he fumbles. I actually see no place for him on this team because he can't catch you don't want him as a third down back because he can't break tackles you don't want him on the first two downs he is garbage in short yardage. I would see how he does with the new kick return and if he's bad at that just ship him off.
Those narratives really do need to disappear.. like now. Go Bills!
Bass is a big worry imo. Super shaky and lacking confidence. Obviously the strongest part of our team is Josh Allen. I believe that you take your biggest strength and make it unstoppable if you can. I like the WRs but I believe getting a bonafide star would put our offense over the top. DaVante Adams would make it special. Imagine Adams Shakir Samuel Coleman with Kincaid & Knox. A man can dream 😂
But he made a 60!
Why not hunter renfro? Cain seems like nothing.
No
Milano gone with bicep surgery
Ever since Bass signed his contract he has been less efficient and focused.
A top WR was out there and Beane goes cheap again. Allen needs a real number 1 at WR.
Im curious as to where we are getting the cap space to pay any #1 Reciever? Ill wait😂
No cap space. Creating it or backloading a contract only creates bigger problems next yr and moving forward. They drafted Coleman and Kincaid in back to back years. They need young cost controlled talent. That’s how good GM’s with QB’s making top money do things. You’re just going to have to get used to it.
You’re not the smartest
@@owenfuertes6442 I’m smart enough to know he never has drafted a number 1 WR in 7 years! Prove me wrong. Mr smart guy! Name 1?
@@jp12696 That’s how teams never make the Super Bowl with one of the top QB’s in the league. You are not KC. They have a HOF TE the Bills don’t have it!
Daquan was tried of SJF. The vets don’t like that camp!
Bass needs to go 2 seasons ago. Coach needs to fix Cook.
We finish 8-9 mcdermott finally gets fired and hopefully the new coaches bring in a proven quarterback coach and a proven veteran for josh allen to learn from .
Instead of keep bringing mitch trubiski to learn from .
Allen is immature and needs a veteran im almost positive joe flaco would have happily signed with buffalo. Yes flacco wasnt the best quarterback but he is proven!!! He is a winner .
But mcdermott and beane live and die with the drafts .
Allen gets injured buffalo doesn't win more then 6 or seven gsmes .
Again our depth is mediocre especially at key positions and injuries are already stacking!!!
Cornerback safety esp
Bishop Already has a brokwn shoulder rapp is not solid in in coverage .
Why not bring back Hyde?? He would glady sign back in Buffalo
Its going to be a long frustrating season
ROOKIE running back .can catch .out of the back field ..he replaced Cook nearly in season
I understand that you have to practice but can we stop talking about how good they look in practice every team looks good in practice lets talk about what are we going to do about the run defense, 3rd down stops, qb protection, getting a ACTUAL DEFENSIVE COACH because Shawn mcDermott ain’t getting the job done and brandon bean sucks at drafting players Talk About That!!
They should sign JU-JU to a cheap contract for a season and it’s time the Bills look for another kicker Bass ain’t it
this 28 minute video could be 15 minutes with less rambling on.
Try 1.75 speed. That's what I do.
Don’t get me wrong. I love this show but sometimes the same topic just keeps going on and on and on, til the break of dawn!
😂
T.bass is obsessed with cats. Enough said
Cats are great
Judging by the first pre season looks like a long loosing season I was a Buffalo Bills fan for 52 years I now cheer for KC
Pathetic.
He’s learning all that how to get over from Miller.