It’s a bar about the movie “king of New York” machiavelli’s(makaveli) offspring I’m the king of New York.. biggie called himself Frank white, from “the king of New York” So yes a 2pac & BIG line lol
Thing about K Dot is, he is SUPER eccentric with his music. He has an immaculate eye for the smallest details, whether it's in his bars, his actual recordings, the use of the beat, the music videos, everything. That makes him so unique, that a lot of people who like that kind of intricate shit, started to put him so high on their personal lists Not saying he wouldn't deserve it, he is one of the true greats imo, but i believe that might be the reason why some don't like him and some put him above all
I agree to an extent. when the competition is who they are , those kinda things matter. Like some people say biggie isn’t a great because he only had 2 studio albums same with big L & pun. There’s valid arguments on both sides.
MrL, In 2012, as a NYer, the atmosphere around the King of New York line was just what you said. I was a young adult getting stupid and East Coast ride or die even though I was rocking with KDot since Section 80. But I gotta admit, 12 yrs later, King Kendrick can claim what he pleases
No lie, every time Kendrick is featured in a song, he kills the song like it’s nothing, his verse is always better. But he says he’s the kind of NY, because he’s Makaveli’s offspring, Pac was from New York, and he’s just saying he’s the king of Rap from coast to coast.
King of New York line still triggering New Yorkers 😂 He just saying he the best in the world which is a movie and Kurupt said the same line decades before 🤣
Kicking, screaming, throwing up this Kendrick verse is literally so f*cking fire 🔥 and it literally did exactly what Kendrick wanted and it lit the fire under so many artists to do better
Not really. None of the rappers he mentioned went on to do any tracks or diss tracks toward him. It was mainly a bunch of underground New York rappers who had a problem with the king of New York line
@@SlimKim3 I never said anything about people responding (even though there was plenty of those and not just from NY’ers), what I said was it lit a fire under a lot of artists- which is true. The scene was pretty quite at the time, and because of this verse, because of the conversations that this verse started in the community it reinvigorated the game.
I think control is an example of what rap should be. Rap turned into a 16 bar selling frenzy. Each of their verses was just them speaking their voice. Their writing probably.their story. No time limit. Just letting things be said whatever needed to be said. And in hindsight this is when kendrick literally was on top. All his albums won multiple awards. He kept winning so he called people out to dethrone him. But no one lives rap like Kendrick. He says what he means. He has to say something that means something. Not just to sell a beat. That vision of rap is almost dead.
Kendrick's verse was so savage that the Big Sean & Jay Electronica verses got slept on. When this Track first dropped it was Controversial on the Internet... but it was Good for Hip Hop... Everyone was talking about it. ☮️
Savage because he said a bunch of menus not for the actual lyrical aspect. Bar4bar I save Big Sean kept up with him if you take out the name dropping part
Big Sean heard Kendrick's verse after his and Jay's were recorded and decided that he wasn't going to change anything because he knew Kendrick's verse was special and important. He handled it exactly how he should have
This was a crazy time in music, Kendrick was just like a year and a half into mainstream.. calling himself the GOAT of everything this spawned multiple disses , from Drake , Meek mill , asap rocky
You never heard Kendrick’s Name in the talk of best MC??? Who are you having these conversations with then lol I’ve heard his name on multiple occasions from not just my conversations but interviews as well saying Kendrick is one of the best to touch a Mic. But it’s all subjective I suppose
i think older hip hop fans that stopped keeping up mid 2000s know he is good but dont know how good. I was in that camp, stopped listening for a while and came back and understood how good he is.
Are you saying you can't sit through Section 80, GKMC, TPB, Mr. Morale & the Big Steppers? Kendrick is in the top 5 storytellers, no question. To each their own but I'd recommend you go back and listen to each album because not only are they concept albums, they progress and tell the story. Section.80: The traumas and influences inflicted upon his generation GKMC: His childhood of gang ties, addiction, peer pressure, and many other things TPMB: Racial injustice and mental health struggles DAMN: His introspection on his new life of fame and looking back on his life Mr. Morale & the Big Steppers: What is wrong with me
Not everybody gone be able to listen to Kendrick like that. I have to take him in pieces, because some of his songs literally make me cry. Cry. Like, who cries listening to a rap song? Kendrick pulls it out of you. And do you know why? Because he's the crack for your brain-the wisdom-the pain-and if you relapse, just gone head put his cd on again....
@@lisag31 I completely relate to this. Music is a pillar of therapy for me. I agree that many more recent Kendrick albums aren't meant to bang. However, to your question, I have no problem admitting that Artists like Kendrick and Mac have songs I've cried to. I'm not really sad but cathartic. Songs like Father Time or Good News have helped me through dark times.
Man, I wish there were more music reactors when this song came out, the reactions and the hip hop game was crazy, everybody took the king of New York line and made remix diss tracks for it, and then when he named off all the rappers and said he's unaliving them, that had a similar impact to Eminem on kill shot about Diddy and pac
Kendrick lamar ft j cole- black Friday. On this track they both rap over each other's beats. Also, busta rhymes ft kendrick lamar- look over your shoulder, is a must.
I still don't understand why Drake was so in his feelings hearing this verse. Like he said he has love for them but he will try to kill them when it comes to rapping. Hip hop is a sport like basketball. Like I can totally imagine MJ and Kobe having this mindset so it's still weird he was so offended.
There's an interview with how it went down and pretty much Big. Sean wrote his verse and send it out to both of them and put it on the track, I believe he was asked if he thought about rewriting his verse and he said that he felt comfortable with it. But yeah, Kendrick took this song and definitely called out the entire hip hop game to step their game up, Hopsin also had a bar in rebuttal to this on Hop is back, saying Kendrick raised the bar higher for hip hop, unfortunately the little nigga is 4'3, the guy is a midget so his high is still really short to me
I know a lot of people think Kendrick bodied Big Sean but this guy can rapvery very fucking well and this verse just shows Kendrick is just a fucking force of nature.
Kendrick shook the game with this verse and Drake still didn’t learn to use extreme caution. Guess where he is? Canada, hiding out in the most expensive piece of Swiss cheese. 😂😂
I disagree that Sean doesn't have bars and punchlines. Detroit vs. Everybody had a fire ass verse! 3 Stacks did have his own album! He had The Love Below in the double album that was 2 solo projects! 3 Stacks had The Love Below, while Big Boi had Speakerboxx.
This is old, but on the king of New York line, I think he was referring to himself as the embodiment of pure hip hop. It was a shout out to Biggie and Pac. Listen to the whole bar. I'm the "offspring" of "makiaveli"- 2Pac I'm the king off New York-Biggie. He was shouting his peers in the name of competition "I'm tryna raise the bar high" he cares about hip hop and keeping alive. I think they all understood except for drake he got on his feelings about it.
As far as Big Sean, this wasn’t his best so this isn’t really a fair first impression of a listen but he really is dope and has gotten much much better with his pen since then
Bro Kendrick Lamar’s Entire Verse on the track was SOOOOOO EMINEM inspired…..shit 90s Em inspired really cause you definitely get that 90s Eminem vibe from this entire verse,it’s one of my fav verses on the the song, “Control”…….
That whole "I'm 'Pac's offspring, I'm the King of New York" line alone had like three layers 1) he is a mix of Biggie and Tupac, simple and easy 3) he's the offspring of Tupac. 'Pac's first rapper name was MC New York. Basically sayin he learned from New York Hip Hop Culture / grew up with New York Hip Hop enough to now be even better than all the current artists out there 3) he came from MC New York but surpassed him and became the King of New York But the end effect remains the same: he shitted on the WHOLE rap game, sayin he's the best cause he had the greatests teaching him 😂
The King of New York line can be taking a couple of different ways. Obviously on the surface it sounds like he's just saying he's better than all New York rappers. Well from a certain aspect he's not wrong because Kendrick music (at least at the time) got more plays and more hits than any other New York rapper locally or mainstream and his music sold out better than all the other New York rappers. So from a certain perspective you could say he was the King of New York as far as numbers and sales for rapping. Then the other way that a lot of people don't recognize is that the bar was originally by a rapper named Korrupt and his meaning for it was basically say he was Christopher Wallace which was a guy in a movie called King of New York. So yeah it's a slick way to put a bar in because he's technically saying he's like Christopher Wallace but at the same time it sounds like he's flat out saying he's the king of New York which he wasn't.
14:49 I mean he does say "I got love for yall, but Im trying to kill yall" its just like a game, if I'm playing, I'm playing to win; doesnt mean I aint still friends with the peeps I'm trying beat. At least thats how I took it
Bro, I'm soo happy that you reacted to some kendrick, I hope you dive into his music his older stuff is pretty damn top notch, his album section 80 is a 10/10.
Triggered by that Kendrick line 11 years later.... Gotta be the GOAT.
Drake at that time ‘´ nobody will talk about that again ‘’ 11 years later we still 😂😂😂
@@RockLee-q1gmaybe the greatest thing ever lol
"I'm the king of NY" ... Was meant to trigger people
He was saying he is Pac and Biggy combined...
It’s a bar about the movie “king of New York” machiavelli’s(makaveli) offspring I’m the king of New York.. biggie called himself Frank white, from “the king of New York” So yes a 2pac & BIG line lol
Pac’s alias was MC New York at one point.
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How you can’t listen to Kendrick whole album and love hip hop?
People just have different preferences
Actually facts tbh.
To each their own. I fux with kendrick
Thing about K Dot is, he is SUPER eccentric with his music. He has an immaculate eye for the smallest details, whether it's in his bars, his actual recordings, the use of the beat, the music videos, everything. That makes him so unique, that a lot of people who like that kind of intricate shit, started to put him so high on their personal lists
Not saying he wouldn't deserve it, he is one of the true greats imo, but i believe that might be the reason why some don't like him and some put him above all
he is lyrical good on punchlines and he really better than alot of rappers
I'm from NY and hands down the layers are crazy. The GOAT of the 21 century... Give him his flowers!!!
highschool me thought Joey Bada$$ had potential to be a GOAT cause he was so good in his highschool years but he slowed down so much
Yeah idk man. He's great but def not
Kdot is a king of New York 😂😂period
King of The World 🤣
@@SweetieMs period
And he juggling both coasts 👑
Bro was pressed by the king of New York line😂
Almost had an aneurism 😂
Cole dropping out gives K dot the title by default now 😂
The way he was befuddled when Kendrick said he is the king of new York 😂😂😂
He had no clue what Kendrick was talking about 🤣 but theee weird ny dudes always think they know everything
André 3000 doesn’t need a solo album to be on that list, he proved himself already to be one of the best!💯🔥
He is why kendrick is, his arts existence gave birth to Kendrick’s personas on these songs. Anyone who has listened long enough knows this.
Facts! 3stacks is one of the greatest of all time
I mean speakerboxx and the love below are essentially solo albums in a double album
I agree to an extent. when the competition is who they are , those kinda things matter. Like some people say biggie isn’t a great because he only had 2 studio albums same with big L & pun. There’s valid arguments on both sides.
Him on Ain’t No Thang is why I originally loved him as a great lyricist
MrL,
In 2012, as a NYer, the atmosphere around the King of New York line was just what you said. I was a young adult getting stupid and East Coast ride or die even though I was rocking with KDot since Section 80. But I gotta admit, 12 yrs later, King Kendrick can claim what he pleases
No lie, every time Kendrick is featured in a song, he kills the song like it’s nothing, his verse is always better. But he says he’s the kind of NY, because he’s Makaveli’s offspring, Pac was from New York, and he’s just saying he’s the king of Rap from coast to coast.
King of New York line still triggering New Yorkers 😂 He just saying he the best in the world which is a movie and Kurupt said the same line decades before 🤣
"I think we have something here, guys" is WILD 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Big Sean is the type of dude to say "Hold on one gosh darn minute???" After listening to this the first time 😂
Kicking, screaming, throwing up this Kendrick verse is literally so f*cking fire 🔥 and it literally did exactly what Kendrick wanted and it lit the fire under so many artists to do better
Not really. None of the rappers he mentioned went on to do any tracks or diss tracks toward him. It was mainly a bunch of underground New York rappers who had a problem with the king of New York line
@@SlimKim3 I never said anything about people responding (even though there was plenty of those and not just from NY’ers), what I said was it lit a fire under a lot of artists- which is true. The scene was pretty quite at the time, and because of this verse, because of the conversations that this verse started in the community it reinvigorated the game.
I think control is an example of what rap should be. Rap turned into a 16 bar selling frenzy.
Each of their verses was just them speaking their voice. Their writing probably.their story. No time limit. Just letting things be said whatever needed to be said. And in hindsight this is when kendrick literally was on top. All his albums won multiple awards. He kept winning so he called people out to dethrone him. But no one lives rap like Kendrick. He says what he means. He has to say something that means something. Not just to sell a beat. That vision of rap is almost dead.
mission accomlished with the " king of New York" line...lol!
btw.. how we feeling on kdot in May 2024?
He is putting himself there in the top 5 conversation. IT'S CLEAR NO DEBATING! This was is foreshadowing at its finest.
Kendrick's verse was so savage that the Big Sean & Jay Electronica verses got slept on. When this Track first dropped it was Controversial on the Internet... but it was Good for Hip Hop... Everyone was talking about it. ☮️
Savage because he said a bunch of menus not for the actual lyrical aspect. Bar4bar I save Big Sean kept up with him if you take out the name dropping part
The fact that its called "Kendricks control verse"
Big Sean heard Kendrick's verse after his and Jay's were recorded and decided that he wasn't going to change anything because he knew Kendrick's verse was special and important. He handled it exactly how he should have
This was a crazy time in music, Kendrick was just like a year and a half into mainstream.. calling himself the GOAT of everything this spawned multiple disses , from Drake , Meek mill , asap rocky
He actually meant it as a compliment. He said it on an interview. Drake got in his feelings, it would’ve been a diss to not include him haha
You never heard Kendrick’s Name in the talk of best MC??? Who are you having these conversations with then lol I’ve heard his name on multiple occasions from not just my conversations but interviews as well saying Kendrick is one of the best to touch a Mic. But it’s all subjective I suppose
i think older hip hop fans that stopped keeping up mid 2000s know he is good but dont know how good. I was in that camp, stopped listening for a while and came back and understood how good he is.
Kendrick is saying “do something about it” with the king of New York line. Whatchu gonna do?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 NOTHING 🤣🤣
7:31 he said it, cause he’s testing the limits of his “CONTROL.”
Are you saying you can't sit through Section 80, GKMC, TPB, Mr. Morale & the Big Steppers? Kendrick is in the top 5 storytellers, no question. To each their own but I'd recommend you go back and listen to each album because not only are they concept albums, they progress and tell the story.
Section.80: The traumas and influences inflicted upon his generation
GKMC: His childhood of gang ties, addiction, peer pressure, and many other things
TPMB: Racial injustice and mental health struggles
DAMN: His introspection on his new life of fame and looking back on his life
Mr. Morale & the Big Steppers: What is wrong with me
Not everybody gone be able to listen to Kendrick like that. I have to take him in pieces, because some of his songs literally make me cry. Cry. Like, who cries listening to a rap song? Kendrick pulls it out of you. And do you know why? Because he's the crack for your brain-the wisdom-the pain-and if you relapse, just gone head put his cd on again....
@@lisag31 I completely relate to this. Music is a pillar of therapy for me. I agree that many more recent Kendrick albums aren't meant to bang. However, to your question, I have no problem admitting that Artists like Kendrick and Mac have songs I've cried to. I'm not really sad but cathartic. Songs like Father Time or Good News have helped me through dark times.
"makaveli's offspring I'm the king of NY" he got the crown from pac 😂
Bro you shouldn't have a hip hop platform if you can't listen to a whole Kendrick album? I'm confused like hell. HE IS HIP HOP
also, theres a reason why this song is more commonly referred to as 'The Control Verse' rather than 'Control'.
Man, I wish there were more music reactors when this song came out, the reactions and the hip hop game was crazy, everybody took the king of New York line and made remix diss tracks for it, and then when he named off all the rappers and said he's unaliving them, that had a similar impact to Eminem on kill shot about Diddy and pac
The King Of New York line was from the Christopher Walken movie
When this track came out he was the king of NY due to the music that was being played in NY…yes it was his being played more than anyone in NY.
Kendrick lamar ft j cole- black Friday. On this track they both rap over each other's beats. Also, busta rhymes ft kendrick lamar- look over your shoulder, is a must.
Bruh, name another hip hop artist in NYC hotter than K-Dot?
Face it, he IS the King of New York!
I still don't understand why Drake was so in his feelings hearing this verse. Like he said he has love for them but he will try to kill them when it comes to rapping. Hip hop is a sport like basketball. Like I can totally imagine MJ and Kobe having this mindset so it's still weird he was so offended.
Bro started sweating while listening to kdot verse 😂
Nah thats crazy, Kendrick is pretty unanimously among the top 10 best rappers in the game.
There's an interview with how it went down and pretty much Big. Sean wrote his verse and send it out to both of them and put it on the track, I believe he was asked if he thought about rewriting his verse and he said that he felt comfortable with it. But yeah, Kendrick took this song and definitely called out the entire hip hop game to step their game up, Hopsin also had a bar in rebuttal to this on Hop is back, saying Kendrick raised the bar higher for hip hop, unfortunately the little nigga is 4'3, the guy is a midget so his high is still really short to me
But Mt Olympus was the most important response
hopsin's line?
Who cares about Kendrick being short. Yeah he's a little guy but his shoe's on all these dude's necks!
We need reactions to Kendrick's old songs, Love me some Kendrick Lamar
Me Too.🤎
I know a lot of people think Kendrick bodied Big Sean but this guy can rapvery very fucking well and this verse just shows Kendrick is just a fucking force of nature.
This was the first you heard it 👀song is literally a decade old 😂
13:00 Yep, this is the part that puts smiles on most oldheads faces
Big Sean feat Lil Wayne-Deep
Great song they both go crazy on it.
Kendricks verse was his way to make the real artist step their pen game up and put out some good music. He doesn't believe he is the king of NY
He didn’t mean it in a literal sense for me I thought it was obvious he was saying that to make more noise and get peoples reaction by saying that
Punch said he was comparing himself to biggie and pac
bro is the king of the rap game rn, NO ONE from NY can fw Kendrick rn so yes he own y’all
As long as Nas is releasing songs Kendrick will never be the king of New York. But everyone else I agree with you.
@@Dying4pie2180 - Nas been putting out Horse shit lately. every album Kendrick release is a certified classic, Next
Can't listen to a whole kendrick album and has never hear jay electronica? I wish i could take my view back 😂
This fool is from New york. They all resist giving credit to anyone or anything that is not New york.
Lol big mad ain't you
"his verse is very long!" its his song, fuck the 15 bar rubric
If you ask me, the original "control verse" was Kendrick's Monster Freestyle from like 2010/2011.
We have to get him to watch Drake's response to this and the absolutely diabolical freestyle from Kendrick it led to
This shit started many a barbershop fights in ny
Kendrick is the king of New York
When he said “I’m the king of New York” he stands in business by meaning HE’S THE KING OG HIP HOP & RAP! Facts
The Love Below was Andre's solo.
And it is elite.
Kendrick is the KING of New York. Easily.
“And nothing been the same since I dropped control, and tucked a sensitive rapper back in his pajama clothes” that boy Kenny different
ten years later no one else has said king of new york.
this is astaple in hip hop history kendricks verse change the direction of big sean forever
Pac killed the east with hit em up, no diss record will ever surpass it.
King of New York is a movie, with Frank White. An alias Biggie used in the day, which is in combination with the Makaveli reference to Tupac.
Kendrick shook the game with this verse and Drake still didn’t learn to use extreme caution. Guess where he is? Canada, hiding out in the most expensive piece of Swiss cheese. 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Big Sean heard the verse and re-wrote his part...
Big sean is pretty underrated. He has good flow with good punches. Definitely good vibes
I disagree that Sean doesn't have bars and punchlines. Detroit vs. Everybody had a fire ass verse!
3 Stacks did have his own album! He had The Love Below in the double album that was 2 solo projects! 3 Stacks had The Love Below, while Big Boi had Speakerboxx.
Solo album or not, nobody is close to 3 stacks.
People like Kendrick and Em have said he's one of the best of all time but I'm supposed to believe this guy knows more.
This is old, but on the king of New York line, I think he was referring to himself as the embodiment of pure hip hop. It was a shout out to Biggie and Pac. Listen to the whole bar. I'm the "offspring" of "makiaveli"- 2Pac I'm the king off New York-Biggie. He was shouting his peers in the name of competition "I'm tryna raise the bar high" he cares about hip hop and keeping alive. I think they all understood except for drake he got on his feelings about it.
This is where the Drake butt hurt started. He didn’t like being called out even tho it was a friendly call out
So many NY MC’s responded to this and you have no clue about it?
Exactly!!! So I don’t know how to take him seriously now!!
Even though the responses were mid
PAC was from New York moved to Cali
Bro I love your reactions....this is 2024....I came from your reactions to the Drake / Kendrick beef. Keep up the good work bro!
Kendrick is better than any NYC rapper. Period
As far as Big Sean, this wasn’t his best so this isn’t really a fair first impression of a listen but he really is dope and has gotten much much better with his pen since then
Listen to what he was saying he was talking life substance ..best vs to me
Big Sean has always been dope
The KING OF NEW YORK!
He's saying that part because of Tupac and him being the offspring of makaveli in my opinion.
I keep coming back just to see his reaction to the "king of new york" line 😂
Bro Kendrick Lamar’s Entire Verse on the track was SOOOOOO EMINEM inspired…..shit 90s Em inspired really cause you definitely get that 90s Eminem vibe from this entire verse,it’s one of my fav verses on the the song, “Control”…….
The King of New York line is explained by Kurupt in an interview. It went over your head as most.
50 said he's the king of NY, he seems doing fine.
Big Sean - “Stay Down” or “Deep” featuring Lil Wayne are dope ass
tracks
That whole "I'm 'Pac's offspring, I'm the King of New York" line alone had like three layers
1) he is a mix of Biggie and Tupac, simple and easy
3) he's the offspring of Tupac. 'Pac's first rapper name was MC New York. Basically sayin he learned from New York Hip Hop Culture / grew up with New York Hip Hop enough to now be even better than all the current artists out there
3) he came from MC New York but surpassed him and became the King of New York
But the end effect remains the same: he shitted on the WHOLE rap game, sayin he's the best cause he had the greatests teaching him 😂
I love this reaction.
Please don't sleep on Jay Electronica'verse guys 😢
Kdot is the only rapper with a Pulitzer
And this versed led to Drake getting packed up in 2024
Love the reaction!
Kendrick Lamar is the specific type of content I would like to see no doubt
id watch an entire TPAB listen through
i just hit 8:50 nvm lmao
6:18 kendrick verse
Its funny hearing your opinions about KDOT now..smh
His verse is long (Big Sean). Made me lol😂 like mover it along
The King of New York line can be taking a couple of different ways. Obviously on the surface it sounds like he's just saying he's better than all New York rappers. Well from a certain aspect he's not wrong because Kendrick music (at least at the time) got more plays and more hits than any other New York rapper locally or mainstream and his music sold out better than all the other New York rappers. So from a certain perspective you could say he was the King of New York as far as numbers and sales for rapping.
Then the other way that a lot of people don't recognize is that the bar was originally by a rapper named Korrupt and his meaning for it was basically say he was Christopher Wallace which was a guy in a movie called King of New York. So yeah it's a slick way to put a bar in because he's technically saying he's like Christopher Wallace but at the same time it sounds like he's flat out saying he's the king of New York which he wasn't.
Its a kurupt bar kendrick paying homage to him with the king od new york bar
Some can't read through the lines of that new York bar lol...
The shit you be saying at times lmao😊
I think why Kendrick Lamar said “I’m the king of New York” is because he blows every one from New York out of the water
Danny Brown and Kendrick - 'Really Doe' 🔥
14:49 I mean he does say "I got love for yall, but Im trying to kill yall" its just like a game, if I'm playing, I'm playing to win; doesnt mean I aint still friends with the peeps I'm trying beat. At least thats how I took it
Also Tupac lived i New York and Cali
Eminem and Kendrick Lamar, Love game
Discredited the moment you said u can’t consider Andre one of the best😭
never subscribed so quickly to a channel, thank you .
All the bars were great but yeah, Kendrick just went hard af
Big Sean verse is sonically amazing
Bro, I'm soo happy that you reacted to some kendrick, I hope you dive into his music his older stuff is pretty damn top notch, his album section 80 is a 10/10.
Bro was pressed by the king of New York line😂
All New Yorkers are
Pussies got shook 😂