Sad, bandai always make digimon changing,whether in each of their game,vpets or anime. Just look how distinct Every Digimon World was,the anime change every season with unique mechanic. Bandai has the balls to play with unsafe territory.
I personally always liked the darker more horror themed parts of Digimon i think it’s what differentiates it from other monster shows and I agree more lopmon in everything
For a little bit of context to the Kouji and Koichi stuff, In japan divorce is taken very seriously and can get extremely messy. And since in Japanese culture children are seen as the household's property instead of being their own people, some parents may not retain any visitation or legal rights to their kids. So I can imagine that Koji and Koichi's parents who got split custody decided that they just raise the son they got as an only child due to the hostile feelings post-divorce.
So it's basically a rehash of Matt and TKs parents divorce, as both siblings are split between the parents, and they rarely see each other since of course their parents don't want to see each other
@@patrickzalatoris3206 Yes, but with the added drama of the twins not knowing each other until they meet in the digimon's world with Koichi by force turned evil by Koji.
At the end of the original series, Gennai told them that the Digiworld will reset itself and then time in the Digiworld will move just as fast as in the real world. Which is why the kids had to leave immediatly. Maybe this was left out in the english dub, but it's the reason why they can only stay in the Digiworld for a few hours a day in 02.
Also because the Digital World will see their data as bugs and delete them basically assuming that the DW is alive. This is the earliest refference to Yggdrasill. Basically the system(Yggdrasill) would see them as a foreign object and delete them.
Kind of a fun thing to note in the tri series. The digimon when digivolving have 2s in their binary code which foreshadows their infection. The 2s are gone after the reset.
This is very thorough and very well put together. I’m on a hyper focus of digimon right now and am rediscovering my love for the franchise. I loved watching this and am currently re watching it. Thank you for doing such an amazing job with this 💙
Ya know, as bad as Data Squad is, No Goggles's solution of approaching a tough digimon by just deciding he's gonna punch it himself is just so enjoyable
Adventure: digimon evolve through their partners strongest traits 02: digimon use digi armor and fusion Tamers: digimon use cards and merge with partners Frontier: humans become digimon Savers: humans punch digimon to evolve their partner digimon
Funny you should mention how Tamers felt more like a psychological anime because it was actually made by the creators of Serial Experiments Lain. A famous psychological anime that people write thesis papers about trying to piece together what’s going on.
A real shame that Chiaki Konaka went off the deep end across the years and nowadays is the kind of guy that would unironically call people "sheeple"....
@@fake_silentheroThe Original Japanese Dub FIXES Takato & Guilmon's Relationship in a much more emotional way to the point where it works really well. Watch the Japanese versions of Episodes 8, 9, 13 & 14 (with english subtitles) and you'll see their connection way more.
While I understand you don't like catchphrases in general, I really like the fact that Eri and Astra's catchphrases aren't just mere catchphrases. They are also incorporated in their character development arc where they have to prove what they said and the catchphrases gained new meaning and become their own personal motto, especially when they were encountering hardships or reflecting on their goals. That's why I don't mind the catchphrases in this show as there are narrative reasons. Appmon excels at developing their cast, so to anyone haven't watched it, I'd encourage you to check it out!
Dude I'm so surprise that you only have 173 subscribers, I thought you'd be 240k. I love This and more people need to see this. I grew up watching both digitalmon and pokemon. I watched all the way up to digimon frontier and stopped after that. This was going down memory lane, thankyou for that.
The rules change from season to season. In the Digimon Adventure canon, Digimon never die in the Digital World because they can reconfigure into a Digi-Egg in a digital plane. However, because the real world isn't digital, they can't reconfigure, and if Digimon die in the real world, they're gone for good. This is probably why the main kids' Digimon stay in the Digital World, because keeping them in the real world is a major risk should they have to fight again. This changes in Tamers, where if a Digimon dies, no matter where they are, they die for good because then their data can be absorbed. Frontiers have the same rules as Adventure, though it's hard to tell there because they hardly spent any time in the Real World. I'm pretty sure Takuya just went back the one time. Data Squad has a very interesting take on it. Digimon can die anywhere and be brought back, so long as their egg isn't destroyed. As far as the death of Digimon, I get why each have their interpretation, especially since Data Squad and Tamers take place in the real world for the majority of the show, but I do think Data Squad has the best interpretation of this. It still keeps an element of suspense, but the real world has become so technologically advanced that Digimon are still capable of reconfiguring into a Digiegg. I'm not sure how death worked in Xros Wars, but in Ghost Game, it seems to be the same as Data Squad minus the destroying the Digiegg, since it seems like the egg forms elsewhere from where they die, which is also interesting. The thing to take note here is that Digimon both permanently die and yet not really because when they are reborn, they lose all of their memories and basically become a completely new creature. Bokomon in Ghost Game died, and while it isn't permanent, he isn't going to be the same Bokomon anymore. If they brought back the element of eggs being destroyed like Data Squad, I'd say this one is my favorite interpretation of the concept. Either way, it's pretty fascinating.
I'm glad you liked Appmon! A lot of people are put off by the spinoff-ish nature of it, but it's legitimately really good. The characters are memorable, the plot is fairly good, and there's iconic moments like you mentioned. The MotW can get a bit old, but I feel like they did it much better than Hunters at least. Appmon is definitely one of my favorites as well. Also Haru and Yuujin are hella gay, that is all.
Thank you for covering so many iterations of the digimon series than just sticking to discussing adventure for nostalgias sake. It must have been a lot of work, good job! You explain your opinions well and the beauty foe me with the digimon franchise and that each series explore different themes and styles so different series resonate with different series. I myself like adventure 02, frontier, Xros wars/fusion and ghost game the most.
> This dude describes Data Squad > My actual fave > Everything he says about it makes more and more hyped "It sucks" Nah man. Excuse me cuz I'm gonna go re-watch it for the 5th time
Frontiers is still my favorite. Takuya is the best leader and goggle head. Koji loner act is actually believable more so than Matt and the other guy in The 5th season. Zoey is a good combo of Sora and Mimi, Tommy is a typical youngest kid with moments to be brave and step up, and JP was kinder than he acted at first and was naturally funny to watch. I think 5 is a safe number of digi destined. Kouji was a bit extra but a nice edition to Koji character.
Honestly with adventure and 02, I wish they expanded Kari alot more especially since she was introduced so late. I mean I find her personality interesting as she's like the sibling who feels she gets in the way of stuff and thinks it's her fault and tries not to be a burden, but her role supposedly as a digimon goddess was only talked about twice between 2 seasons and never again, like that should've been her time to grow into a super important character. But then again 02 had alot of changes done to it during production because of creative differences, and that always hurts a show
Awesome video! I like the non-apologetic takes. It was refreshing to finally watch a retrospective that doesn't try to take some sort of middle-ground on everything. I also thought your insights and comedic bits were entertaining. Personally, I love Adventure 01, but I've never been able to stomach 02 enough to finish it, and that's about where my interest in the anime has gotten me, so I liked hearing about it all in one place. Looking forward to more of your content
First, I have to give you props for making this video at all. It's a daunting task and I always appreciate people who cover more than just Adventure in these types of videos. You had me until you called Data Squad bad. Blasphemy. Top 5 season easily. The dub mucks things up *some*, but even then it's great. And you really said that it's the worst after watching Frontier, which is the actual worst? All the characters have some amount of depth which is better than Frontier, the music SLAPS, the plot is up great with actually nuanced villains for once. Kurata is great villain. He's literally a textbook racist and that's the point. The taking over the world thing was actually a dub addition IIRC and it was more about Kurata being so extremely insecure that everyone else was inferior. But alas, it is your opinion and it's valid, even if I disagree. Watching Adventure 2020 weekly was not fun. It was fun to discuss the episodes, but it's so barebones and mindless that there wasn't much discussion to be had. It's only redeeming qualities IMO are the music, animation(only sometimes), and use of obscure digimon. I can't stand LEK or 2020 at all personally. 2020 and Frontier are bottom of the barrel and the worst IMO.
Oh man I have so many different thoughts that will probably end up as separate comments. First, Ryo. You said he's the main character of a Wonderswan game, but he's actually the main character of THREE Wonderswan games - a trilogy that includes his involvement of Ken's original corruption via Black Spore, having his partner Digimon DNA Digivolve with the superpowerful Big Bad of the games, ZeedMilleniummon (and is why Cyberdramon is hard to control and very animalistic and aggressive), and ends with him entering the Tamers universe, hence why you see him both in one scene of Ken's flashback and in Tamers. Very interesting stuff!
I appreciate the few constants throughout this retrospective. 1. The apparent disregard and appreciation of feline abuse and death in the form of Leomon 2. Your undying fanboying of Mimi
dude your reaction to the car was priceless, i could not stop laughing. I was suppose to see a movie and then i started watching and ended up listening to everything...you know your stuff.
In those Wonderswan games, Milleniummon is a DNA-combo of Chimeramon and Machindramon (whose lore states he's a combo of various Machine Digimon, probably look at his gear to find out or something I don't remember), so a combo of combos starts to make the chaos of Milleniummon. Makes sense.
Just a comment about Kizuna. It's a love letter to Butterfly. Eosmon is a blue butterfly. The themes reflect the lyrics such as "after all those infinite dreams/possibilities surely can fly again" or how it ends with , "I don't know what I will do tomorrow"
"If you're a fan of Naruto or Bleach, like me, you can't complain about filler" I get what you mean, but I think Naruto and Bleach fans have more reason than anyone to complain about filler. Like Bleach literally has an episode end mid battle, only for the next episode to be the start of a completely unrelated filler arc which not only clashes with where the prior episode ended, but where the series currently is, jumping in like it was a fresh arc starting in peace times. Then once that entire filler arc is over, the next episode picks up midway through the fight that the arc interrupted. So you've got an entire arc put on hold mid battle, for an unrelated filler arc that cannot even fit into the continuity properly because it makes no sense to happen at the point it does, then back to the battle like the filler arc never happened. I'm totally in agreement that filler isn't inherently bad (and in the case of DBZ there is a lot of filler I strongly consider to add a lot of emotional weight, making their canon arcs stronger by including the filler) but I mean Bleach has probably the worst executed use of filler I've ever seen. As a Bleach fan who actually likes filler, I still think that was horribly executed. The quality of the filler is irrelevant in my eyes when it's used in such a ridiculously interruptive manner. Don't mind the filler itself, but it's automatically irritating when just shoved in like that. I think a better way to put it would be that if you're a fan of Naruto or Bleach, you've got a high enough tolerance for filler that most other series aren't gonna bother you in comparison.
Not to mention that when people usually refer to filler, they are talking about scenes or arcs that didn't happen in the original series. That arc in bleach didn't happen in the manga. For digimon, everything happened, they just didn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
loved this video, definitely subscribing! i watched since it's digimon but this video was really well put together in general and you have a great sense of humor. and i agree with most of your opinions lol
great video, i liked hearing all the opinions on the different series. i pretty much agree with all of them actually lol, appmon underrated af. though i will say even though it's "not digimon" somehow it felt more "digimon" than a bunch of the series before it to me
Apocalymon Needed more build up and character development as it stands he was just a big scary guy to fight at the end of the show to show how powerful everyone has become without much fleshed out personality or motivation other than being the living embodiment of the the cumulative suffering of digimon who died trying to evolve
Its really weird yeah. I feel like myotismon would of been a good end point. Maybe they kept getting greenlit for more episodes that they ran out of ideas
Begging everyone who enjoys Digimon to check out the German theme songs which absolutely have no business of being as good as they are! Check out "Leb deinen Traum" (Adventures 01 Theme), "Der Größte Träumer" (Tamers Theme) and "Ich werde da sein" (Adventure 02 Theme)!
Season 2 implies that the half merging of digital world and real world synched the time, i think it was slightly said once. Guilmon growing up like a baby to understanding the world blatently, especially in movies, is amazing and i think season 3 is insane and probably the best entry point since a lot of it is just 'oh digimon irl what the fuck do i do' that many kids can relate to. I'm the opposite of you, i am an edgy bitch that loves that digimon even in adventure gets into some dark topics and shit happens but that then reinforces the anime friendship thing and often times just friendship isnt gonna do it and using it as energy to make plans and actually outdo is really nice.
3:06:42-3:07:49: As a fan of Digimon seasons 1 through 3, I agree with you. I'm also excited for "Digimon 02: The Beginning", but to be honest "Last Evolution Kizuna" is the perfect end to the "Adventure" storyline. I also agree that "Tamers" doesn't need a continuation, it was a great season and it ended when it needed to, so why mess with it? If the Adventure and Tamers series were to continue, they'd probably become stale or tired. There are just some things that are better left alone.
I'm glad that you have covered most of the series. BTW, Appmon takes place in 2016-2017. There is a minor scene in ep 4 that shows that the date is shown on the monitor and it also links up with D'enemon's age in the show.
Yeah, the third OVA in the Digimon Movie was cut to hell and back. I recommend to any Digimon fan to seek out the full length version, it actually makes sense from a pacing perspective.
I think the best thing about season 1 is how each kid gets essentially a lesson to learn but a lot of them actually gte it wrong at first in ways that feel realistic for kids. Tai thinks he's being brave but just wants to be stronger, hoping he gets a powerboost when it's convenient because he realised he's in a shonen anime which isn't a brave thing to do. Matt is questionign why he out of all people should get the crest of friendship when he mostly was about protecting his family. Sora finding out that her mother being protective is another form of her showing love, all those messages felt very honest and like a genuinly good lesson to learn, it's so high above the average "try hard and believe in the power of friendship" type lesson you'll see in other kids shows.
I dropped Digimon Adventure 2020 pretty quickly mostly because of the weird reactions to stuff everyone has. Not to sound like a sicko, but I liked the Adventure kids constantly being overwhelmed at the start. It helped feeling for them and them being relatable. Meanwhile, in DA 2020, they not only barely react, but also pull some pretty ridiculous feats from the getgo, like landing on their feet from high elevations or pulling off well coordinated strategies just a few episodes (or sometimes minutes) after they meet. It felt off in that regard, constantly. I paused the video to go and watch Last Evoution Kizuna spoilerfree though, and man, I have to say, it was worth it. Good movie. Much much better than Tri for sure (and I say that as someone who liked Tri's atmosphere quite a bit) EDIT: my favorite season will always be Tamers. I have an entire shelf of selfmade pokemon and digimon drawings, so Takato spoke to me even when Tamers first aired. I do agree though that it can be a bit of a slog at times. Adventure is much easier to rewatch and also very entertaining.
All of my favorite Digimon characters are in adventure series, but Digimon shows past first 2 ones(unless it's adventure tri/kizuna/2020) are way more willing to give digidestined superpowers, at least occassionally Even when I watch 02 more than any other digimon seasons combined in my childhood, as I grow up I finds out 02(and it's sequels) are closest thing any other anime-style medium got similar treatment to current seasons of Pokemon anime, as far as their actual shows concerned. Digimon seasons 3+, despite lack of my favorite characters there are even more willing to give kids superpowers in even canon
You know how Tai and Matt fight, what i think they should've done was have Matt be possessed as his mental state was low. He's forced to fight Tai and its emotional because of the bond. Its cliche but it makes more sense.
The time thing between adventure 1 and 2 was explained in the last episode of adventure 1. When the digital world reset the time difference between the worlds was undone. That was a big reason for the kids going home so quickly. School was coming up and other stuff like the gate closing for an unknown amount of time.
you telling me digimon xros wars hunters(season 3) as a pokemon clone makes so much sense on why I loved it over the original xros wars also amazing video man i enjoyed it.
I hate tri so much, it's like they made a poll of basic elements fans want in the movie and just wrote the script around it without bothering to keep it coherent or good in any way. I hate how they throw in characters like the digiemperor and gennai in without it making any sence. I hate how they ruined the first mega level reveal so bad that in the 4th movie they just throw in 3 at the same time even though its supposed to be a very big moment. I hate how every kid goes through a basic bitch character arc they should be long over at this point. I hate how the authors idea of having a more mature tone is being very boring teen drama without any fun involved or even worse, showing sexual harassment I hate how they go to the digital world like one time and mostly just picknick there, any sence of wonder is gone, it's by far the most bald and boring version of the digital world in the franchise. I hate how bland and boring the new girl is and how much screentimes she eats up anyway. I hate how they reused the king drasil storyline for like the 4th time. I hate how they basically did the same thign as Digimon the movie and cut up a TV show that also looks liek a TV show into 6 movies to market them as such. I hate how the last movie played butterfly like 10 times in a desperate grab for emotions to the point i almost got tired of it which shouldnt be physically possible I just really hate how it was supposed to be this big finale for the franchise but it felt like a soulless product in every way, So glad we got Kizuna after it to wahs the taste of piss out of my mouth
Just wanna say this video has made me a mimi appreciator but I have a feeling that when I watched the episode with the geckomon and stuff it awakened something within me
tamers is just intent on being depressing when they could have balance between serious and fun. There is a middle ground between constant suffering and fun.
I Really recommend Digimon Adventure Tri Abridged be Project Mouthwash. It really makes use of the premise, and the digidestined truly feel like maturing teenagers. The jokes are hilarious and the writing is superb. It is so good that I smiled at the Digirap. Seriously.
I watched the entirety of digimon adventure tri in one night one time. Watching this video, I looked at some frames of the movie and I seriously did not remember any of it. The movies were so unmemorable. Either I skipped some movies or I just remember the first two movies and the ending.
I feel the same way about Braking Bad as you do with Tamers. I know its a great show and I enjoy it, but it's not what I would go to for entertainment. It's kind of a weird feeling to have.
Adventure (1999): Pretty rough but it's still nostalgic. Adventure 02: Very messy, with the Christmas Episode, Ken's backstory and World Tour being pretty good episodes. The fetishy stuff like Feet is literal Dan Schneider levels of awful, even if it's in Digimon of all things, 02 isn't great. Tamers: S. Tier. Stuff. From Guilmon being adorable despite his own problems affecting him, making him feel guilty for his own actions when he isn't, he's always loved. That and Leomon getting deleted + The D Reaper, it's amazing. Frontier: A few hiccups, The children turn into Digimon instead of getting partners, it's dark and emotional, some missed potential and awful moments, and some good stuff, it's hard to rate this since it's so complicated. Data Squad/Savers: Very underrated but it's an alright season, can't really say anything bad about this season. Fusion/Xros Wars: absolutely terrible. Xros Wars: The Young Boys Who Leapt Through Time: It fixes some of Fusions issues, but it has a lot of missed potential. App Monsters: It's okay. Tri: mixed. Adventure (2020): Oh they messed this up. Ghost Game: It's good in the first half but it gets repetitive and annoying after a while, ending on a rough note. Last Evolution / Last Evolution Kazuna: How to fix Tri's problems in a good way.
I was about to question why Digimon Ghost Game wasn't in this but STUPID ME... forgot that Ghost Game hasn't ended still. Can't do a Retrospective on Ghost Game if it is still ongoing. LOL XD
thanks for this video! I'm a fan of seasons 1-3 but only recently checked out Frontiers. removing the digimon partners was a mistake, and its really hard to tell their power levels. Cereburmon is an Ultimate in Digimon Survive, but that is the first digimon the main character defeats. I guess that means the human spirits are Ultimate (Agunimon in Digimon World Next Order is), so it feels really unearned. I tried to watch Digimon Fusion but couldn't get past the first 2 episodes. they Digi Cross immediately, and its unclear what power level the fusions are. the trials, tribulations and bonds are supposed to be what aids digivolutions IMO. I might watch more cause the villians look cool. I'll skip Data Squad cause everyone makes it sound bad and I can't find a way to stream it anyway. I'm suprised you don't mention Ghost Games, I really like the premise which feels fresh in a good way! they also go back to the Tamers thing of explaining power levels. and I haven't seen 2020, but the "Mucho Amigo Jalapeno" made me LOL
3:21:28 actually fun fact, that deathmon was made in 2000 (just never used in anything) & even before that in a oneshot manga that counts as digimons first the antagonist was another digimon names deathmon (who has never been seen again)
Some takes. Adventure 1 and 02 had the best storytelling and benefits from strong Character development (TK, Blackwargreymon, and Ken are the biggest highlights here). Tamers started out slow but the small cast allows for the most well drawn out cast in any Digimon series due to balancing focus between the Digimon and the humans (lots of depth with Guilmon, Impmon, and Renamon). (Cannot judge Fusion or Frontier). Data squad had a compelling concept but the execution falls flat due to poor writing and lack of character devolopment (latter was inexcusable due to the smaller cast). Tri is a good but flawed series that felt too rushed possibly due to constraints (such as King Drasil being defeated off-screen).
@@CristianLopez-mz1ru i thought Meiko was a great add-in for the Tri cast. Her shy and quiet personality made her stand out from the other cast and I like how they handled Meiko's inner conflict on if they should kill her Digimon or not.
@@gabrielstafford5174 Yeah right? she was such an awesome and complex character, the best female character in the franchise in my opinion. Also I cried so much when they had to kill her partner, Meicoomon deserved better
Sounds to me like you don't like change
Sad, bandai always make digimon changing,whether in each of their game,vpets or anime. Just look how distinct Every Digimon World was,the anime change every season with unique mechanic. Bandai has the balls to play with unsafe territory.
for the first 4 seasons we went from survival in digi world to sentai digimon ranger team. Digimon is about change for the better or worse.
@@Sonicfalcon16 exactly why I love it all
Even Digimon having balls to give kids occasional superpowers also make Digimon isn't Pokemon ripoff
@@Masonicon exactly it's not a rip off of Pokemon at all just because they had a crap ton of monster tamer anime
Calling Mimi the best character in all of Digimon is pretty controversial, incredibly brave, and absolutely 100% *CORRECT* .
I hated Mimi as a kid, but now that I am adult and smart I can finally see that she IS the absolute best.
I mean, it's the correct way of making sure the audience close the video before the 3 minutes mark
I would say Mimi has some stiff competition from Rika.
It is correct, she had by far the best character arc imo
@miep3934 I really didn't get the hype over Rika. Too much of a try-hard tough girl.
I personally always liked the darker more horror themed parts of Digimon i think it’s what differentiates it from other monster shows and I agree more lopmon in everything
For a little bit of context to the Kouji and Koichi stuff, In japan divorce is taken very seriously and can get extremely messy. And since in Japanese culture children are seen as the household's property instead of being their own people, some parents may not retain any visitation or legal rights to their kids. So I can imagine that Koji and Koichi's parents who got split custody decided that they just raise the son they got as an only child due to the hostile feelings post-divorce.
So it's basically a rehash of Matt and TKs parents divorce, as both siblings are split between the parents, and they rarely see each other since of course their parents don't want to see each other
@@patrickzalatoris3206 Yes, but with the added drama of the twins not knowing each other until they meet in the digimon's world with Koichi by force turned evil by Koji.
At the end of the original series, Gennai told them that the Digiworld will reset itself and then time in the Digiworld will move just as fast as in the real world. Which is why the kids had to leave immediatly. Maybe this was left out in the english dub, but it's the reason why they can only stay in the Digiworld for a few hours a day in 02.
It's explained in the dub as well
Makes sense
Also because the Digital World will see their data as bugs and delete them basically assuming that the DW is alive. This is the earliest refference to Yggdrasill. Basically the system(Yggdrasill) would see them as a foreign object and delete them.
Adventure 02 in a nutshell "hahaha, jokes on you, I'm not even the true villain!"
Kind of a fun thing to note in the tri series. The digimon when digivolving have 2s in their binary code which foreshadows their infection. The 2s are gone after the reset.
This is very thorough and very well put together. I’m on a hyper focus of digimon right now and am rediscovering my love for the franchise. I loved watching this and am currently re watching it. Thank you for doing such an amazing job with this 💙
I'm so glad someone appreciates Appmon the way it deserves to be appreciated, it was so much better than people excepted it to be
I'm impressed with how thorough this is!!
Ya know, as bad as Data Squad is, No Goggles's solution of approaching a tough digimon by just deciding he's gonna punch it himself is just so enjoyable
Digimon did taught "goggles are just for wimps"
G. Wilson nope wrong goggles and the data squad series arent bad but awsome.
@@Masonicon nope that never happen.
Adventure: digimon evolve through their partners strongest traits
02: digimon use digi armor and fusion
Tamers: digimon use cards and merge with partners
Frontier: humans become digimon
Savers: humans punch digimon to evolve their partner digimon
@@patrickzalatoris3206That's just Masaru who cannot generate Digisoul in any other way than punching something.
Funny you should mention how Tamers felt more like a psychological anime because it was actually made by the creators of Serial Experiments Lain. A famous psychological anime that people write thesis papers about trying to piece together what’s going on.
Yeah I mention that at the start of that part. Chiaki Konoka if i remember right.
A real shame that Chiaki Konaka went off the deep end across the years and nowadays is the kind of guy that would unironically call people "sheeple"....
@@fake_silentheroThe Original Japanese Dub FIXES Takato & Guilmon's Relationship in a much more emotional way to the point where it works really well.
Watch the Japanese versions of Episodes 8, 9, 13 & 14 (with english subtitles) and you'll see their connection way more.
They've been demoted to yamcha. HAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHHAAHAH. I was drinking water and ended up spitting everything out.
Appmon was underappreciated. I loved it.
While I understand you don't like catchphrases in general, I really like the fact that Eri and Astra's catchphrases aren't just mere catchphrases. They are also incorporated in their character development arc where they have to prove what they said and the catchphrases gained new meaning and become their own personal motto, especially when they were encountering hardships or reflecting on their goals. That's why I don't mind the catchphrases in this show as there are narrative reasons.
Appmon excels at developing their cast, so to anyone haven't watched it, I'd encourage you to check it out!
Re Tamers: "We're ten episodes away from the end, so it's time to reveal the REAL threat."
Me: "That's, like, eight episodes early."
Ghost Game:
Dude I'm so surprise that you only have 173 subscribers, I thought you'd be 240k. I love This and more people need to see this. I grew up watching both digitalmon and pokemon. I watched all the way up to digimon frontier and stopped after that. This was going down memory lane, thankyou for that.
The rules change from season to season. In the Digimon Adventure canon, Digimon never die in the Digital World because they can reconfigure into a Digi-Egg in a digital plane. However, because the real world isn't digital, they can't reconfigure, and if Digimon die in the real world, they're gone for good. This is probably why the main kids' Digimon stay in the Digital World, because keeping them in the real world is a major risk should they have to fight again.
This changes in Tamers, where if a Digimon dies, no matter where they are, they die for good because then their data can be absorbed. Frontiers have the same rules as Adventure, though it's hard to tell there because they hardly spent any time in the Real World. I'm pretty sure Takuya just went back the one time. Data Squad has a very interesting take on it. Digimon can die anywhere and be brought back, so long as their egg isn't destroyed. As far as the death of Digimon, I get why each have their interpretation, especially since Data Squad and Tamers take place in the real world for the majority of the show, but I do think Data Squad has the best interpretation of this. It still keeps an element of suspense, but the real world has become so technologically advanced that Digimon are still capable of reconfiguring into a Digiegg.
I'm not sure how death worked in Xros Wars, but in Ghost Game, it seems to be the same as Data Squad minus the destroying the Digiegg, since it seems like the egg forms elsewhere from where they die, which is also interesting. The thing to take note here is that Digimon both permanently die and yet not really because when they are reborn, they lose all of their memories and basically become a completely new creature. Bokomon in Ghost Game died, and while it isn't permanent, he isn't going to be the same Bokomon anymore. If they brought back the element of eggs being destroyed like Data Squad, I'd say this one is my favorite interpretation of the concept.
Either way, it's pretty fascinating.
Izzy does care he just stays more calm than most people and uses his brain to solve things.
Ok cool. You talk about all of digimon and not just adventure. I got something I'll watch tomorrow.
Highly recommend appli monsters i think thats a sleeper hit
I'm glad you liked Appmon! A lot of people are put off by the spinoff-ish nature of it, but it's legitimately really good. The characters are memorable, the plot is fairly good, and there's iconic moments like you mentioned. The MotW can get a bit old, but I feel like they did it much better than Hunters at least. Appmon is definitely one of my favorites as well.
Also Haru and Yuujin are hella gay, that is all.
loved it.
I have a bit of nostalgia for it. One thing I very much still like are the designs for the Appmon. Especially the rookie forms.
I will give it a shot. I havent seen anything since 1-4 and data squad did nothing for me but I do like he punches big digimon in the head
It's legitimately my favorite season
Damn right they are, they fruity af
Loved this video. Appreciate your dedication! As a casual fan this was great! Subbed
Awesome video man. I'm grinding out the rest of the trophies in Digimon Survive while listening to this right now.
This video deserves even more views than it has! Amazing job! Also Appmon is top 3 seasons hands down.
Thank you for covering so many iterations of the digimon series than just sticking to discussing adventure for nostalgias sake. It must have been a lot of work, good job! You explain your opinions well and the beauty foe me with the digimon franchise and that each series explore different themes and styles so different series resonate with different series.
I myself like adventure 02, frontier, Xros wars/fusion and ghost game the most.
That moment of going from crying to getting over it is why I love Davis. Hes a goof but surprisingly self aware.
> This dude describes Data Squad
> My actual fave
> Everything he says about it makes more and more hyped
"It sucks"
Nah man. Excuse me cuz I'm gonna go re-watch it for the 5th time
Digimon racing clips! That's a memory I thought was lost to the abyss.
never forget....
Listening to this and playing two of my favorite Digimon games Battle Spirit 1 and 2 for the gba. Very entertaining video! Thanks 😎.
Frontiers is still my favorite. Takuya is the best leader and goggle head. Koji loner act is actually believable more so than Matt and the other guy in The 5th season. Zoey is a good combo of Sora and Mimi, Tommy is a typical youngest kid with moments to be brave and step up, and JP was kinder than he acted at first and was naturally funny to watch. I think 5 is a safe number of digi destined. Kouji was a bit extra but a nice edition to Koji character.
Honestly with adventure and 02, I wish they expanded Kari alot more especially since she was introduced so late. I mean I find her personality interesting as she's like the sibling who feels she gets in the way of stuff and thinks it's her fault and tries not to be a burden, but her role supposedly as a digimon goddess was only talked about twice between 2 seasons and never again, like that should've been her time to grow into a super important character. But then again 02 had alot of changes done to it during production because of creative differences, and that always hurts a show
honestly one of my all time favorite videos i have ever seen def subscribed cant wait for more this was a banger of a video
Jumping! Happy! Thunder!!!
Awesome video! I like the non-apologetic takes. It was refreshing to finally watch a retrospective that doesn't try to take some sort of middle-ground on everything. I also thought your insights and comedic bits were entertaining. Personally, I love Adventure 01, but I've never been able to stomach 02 enough to finish it, and that's about where my interest in the anime has gotten me, so I liked hearing about it all in one place. Looking forward to more of your content
RIP to Micheal Lindsay and Philece Sampler, they were the real GOATS.
and the guy that sang the English digimon song he's died too
@@bewearstar9462 Wait really? Man that sucks, would have been cool to see him at a convention or something.
First, I have to give you props for making this video at all. It's a daunting task and I always appreciate people who cover more than just Adventure in these types of videos.
You had me until you called Data Squad bad. Blasphemy. Top 5 season easily. The dub mucks things up *some*, but even then it's great. And you really said that it's the worst after watching Frontier, which is the actual worst? All the characters have some amount of depth which is better than Frontier, the music SLAPS, the plot is up great with actually nuanced villains for once. Kurata is great villain. He's literally a textbook racist and that's the point. The taking over the world thing was actually a dub addition IIRC and it was more about Kurata being so extremely insecure that everyone else was inferior.
But alas, it is your opinion and it's valid, even if I disagree.
Watching Adventure 2020 weekly was not fun. It was fun to discuss the episodes, but it's so barebones and mindless that there wasn't much discussion to be had. It's only redeeming qualities IMO are the music, animation(only sometimes), and use of obscure digimon. I can't stand LEK or 2020 at all personally. 2020 and Frontier are bottom of the barrel and the worst IMO.
The time issue was resolved in the final episode of adventure after they defeated apocalymon
"His Masters Voice" was directed by Konaka, which would later work on Digimon Tamers, the greatest and darkest season in all of Digimon
Sadly it did lead to a Dark Ocean conspiracy
People really exaggerate Tamers 'darkness'...
Oh man I have so many different thoughts that will probably end up as separate comments.
First, Ryo. You said he's the main character of a Wonderswan game, but he's actually the main character of THREE Wonderswan games - a trilogy that includes his involvement of Ken's original corruption via Black Spore, having his partner Digimon DNA Digivolve with the superpowerful Big Bad of the games, ZeedMilleniummon (and is why Cyberdramon is hard to control and very animalistic and aggressive), and ends with him entering the Tamers universe, hence why you see him both in one scene of Ken's flashback and in Tamers. Very interesting stuff!
I appreciate the few constants throughout this retrospective.
1. The apparent disregard and appreciation of feline abuse and death in the form of Leomon
2. Your undying fanboying of Mimi
dude your reaction to the car was priceless, i could not stop laughing.
I was suppose to see a movie and then i started watching and ended up listening to everything...you know your stuff.
In those Wonderswan games, Milleniummon is a DNA-combo of Chimeramon and Machindramon (whose lore states he's a combo of various Machine Digimon, probably look at his gear to find out or something I don't remember), so a combo of combos starts to make the chaos of Milleniummon. Makes sense.
So you were NOT completley traumatized by Piedmon picking them off one by one?😭
Just a comment about Kizuna. It's a love letter to Butterfly. Eosmon is a blue butterfly. The themes reflect the lyrics such as "after all those infinite dreams/possibilities surely can fly again" or how it ends with , "I don't know what I will do tomorrow"
"You are the good guys right?" Is my favorite thing
"If you're a fan of Naruto or Bleach, like me, you can't complain about filler" I get what you mean, but I think Naruto and Bleach fans have more reason than anyone to complain about filler.
Like Bleach literally has an episode end mid battle, only for the next episode to be the start of a completely unrelated filler arc which not only clashes with where the prior episode ended, but where the series currently is, jumping in like it was a fresh arc starting in peace times. Then once that entire filler arc is over, the next episode picks up midway through the fight that the arc interrupted.
So you've got an entire arc put on hold mid battle, for an unrelated filler arc that cannot even fit into the continuity properly because it makes no sense to happen at the point it does, then back to the battle like the filler arc never happened. I'm totally in agreement that filler isn't inherently bad (and in the case of DBZ there is a lot of filler I strongly consider to add a lot of emotional weight, making their canon arcs stronger by including the filler) but I mean Bleach has probably the worst executed use of filler I've ever seen. As a Bleach fan who actually likes filler, I still think that was horribly executed. The quality of the filler is irrelevant in my eyes when it's used in such a ridiculously interruptive manner. Don't mind the filler itself, but it's automatically irritating when just shoved in like that.
I think a better way to put it would be that if you're a fan of Naruto or Bleach, you've got a high enough tolerance for filler that most other series aren't gonna bother you in comparison.
Not to mention that when people usually refer to filler, they are talking about scenes or arcs that didn't happen in the original series. That arc in bleach didn't happen in the manga. For digimon, everything happened, they just didn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
loved this video, definitely subscribing! i watched since it's digimon but this video was really well put together in general and you have a great sense of humor. and i agree with most of your opinions lol
great video, i liked hearing all the opinions on the different series. i pretty much agree with all of them actually lol, appmon underrated af. though i will say even though it's "not digimon" somehow it felt more "digimon" than a bunch of the series before it to me
Apocalymon Needed more build up and character development as it stands he was just a big scary guy to fight at the end of the show to show how powerful everyone has become without much fleshed out personality or motivation other than being the living embodiment of the the cumulative suffering of digimon who died trying to evolve
Its really weird yeah. I feel like myotismon would of been a good end point. Maybe they kept getting greenlit for more episodes that they ran out of ideas
Begging everyone who enjoys Digimon to check out the German theme songs which absolutely have no business of being as good as they are!
Begging everyone who enjoys Digimon to check out the German theme songs which absolutely have no business of being as good as they are! Check out "Leb deinen Traum" (Adventures 01 Theme), "Der Größte Träumer" (Tamers Theme) and "Ich werde da sein" (Adventure 02 Theme)!
Season 2 implies that the half merging of digital world and real world synched the time, i think it was slightly said once.
Guilmon growing up like a baby to understanding the world blatently, especially in movies, is amazing and i think season 3 is insane and probably the best entry point since a lot of it is just 'oh digimon irl what the fuck do i do' that many kids can relate to.
I'm the opposite of you, i am an edgy bitch that loves that digimon even in adventure gets into some dark topics and shit happens but that then reinforces the anime friendship thing and often times just friendship isnt gonna do it and using it as energy to make plans and actually outdo is really nice.
3:06:42-3:07:49: As a fan of Digimon seasons 1 through 3, I agree with you. I'm also excited for "Digimon 02: The Beginning", but to be honest "Last Evolution Kizuna" is the perfect end to the "Adventure" storyline. I also agree that "Tamers" doesn't need a continuation, it was a great season and it ended when it needed to, so why mess with it? If the Adventure and Tamers series were to continue, they'd probably become stale or tired. There are just some things that are better left alone.
woo!!!! awesome work!!!!
Thank you!
I'm glad that you have covered most of the series. BTW, Appmon takes place in 2016-2017. There is a minor scene in ep 4 that shows that the date is shown on the monitor and it also links up with D'enemon's age in the show.
great video
Hearing Mimi trying to speak Spanish is hilarious
Yeah, the third OVA in the Digimon Movie was cut to hell and back. I recommend to any Digimon fan to seek out the full length version, it actually makes sense from a pacing perspective.
algorithm picking up this video, got in recommendations
Best thing of Adventure 02 is the movie "Revenge of Diaboromon".
I think the best thing about season 1 is how each kid gets essentially a lesson to learn but a lot of them actually gte it wrong at first in ways that feel realistic for kids.
Tai thinks he's being brave but just wants to be stronger, hoping he gets a powerboost when it's convenient because he realised he's in a shonen anime which isn't a brave thing to do.
Matt is questionign why he out of all people should get the crest of friendship when he mostly was about protecting his family.
Sora finding out that her mother being protective is another form of her showing love, all those messages felt very honest and like a genuinly good lesson to learn, it's so high above the average "try hard and believe in the power of friendship" type lesson you'll see in other kids shows.
I dropped Digimon Adventure 2020 pretty quickly mostly because of the weird reactions to stuff everyone has. Not to sound like a sicko, but I liked the Adventure kids constantly being overwhelmed at the start. It helped feeling for them and them being relatable. Meanwhile, in DA 2020, they not only barely react, but also pull some pretty ridiculous feats from the getgo, like landing on their feet from high elevations or pulling off well coordinated strategies just a few episodes (or sometimes minutes) after they meet. It felt off in that regard, constantly.
I paused the video to go and watch Last Evoution Kizuna spoilerfree though, and man, I have to say, it was worth it. Good movie. Much much better than Tri for sure (and I say that as someone who liked Tri's atmosphere quite a bit)
EDIT: my favorite season will always be Tamers. I have an entire shelf of selfmade pokemon and digimon drawings, so Takato spoke to me even when Tamers first aired. I do agree though that it can be a bit of a slog at times. Adventure is much easier to rewatch and also very entertaining.
Wow I respect your opinions and love the fact that I got to take in your view of Digimon, however we are very clearly different kinds of people
Gennai basically is the Obi Wan in both Adventure series spoil the mistake was easy to make
All of my favorite Digimon characters are in adventure series, but Digimon shows past first 2 ones(unless it's adventure tri/kizuna/2020) are way more willing to give digidestined superpowers, at least occassionally
Even when I watch 02 more than any other digimon seasons combined in my childhood, as I grow up I finds out 02(and it's sequels) are closest thing any other anime-style medium got similar treatment to current seasons of Pokemon anime, as far as their actual shows concerned. Digimon seasons 3+, despite lack of my favorite characters there are even more willing to give kids superpowers in even canon
You know how Tai and Matt fight, what i think they should've done was have Matt be possessed as his mental state was low. He's forced to fight Tai and its emotional because of the bond. Its cliche but it makes more sense.
The time thing between adventure 1 and 2 was explained in the last episode of adventure 1. When the digital world reset the time difference between the worlds was undone. That was a big reason for the kids going home so quickly. School was coming up and other stuff like the gate closing for an unknown amount of time.
This is a good review!
you telling me digimon xros wars hunters(season 3) as a pokemon clone makes so much sense on why I loved it over the original xros wars also amazing video man i enjoyed it.
I hate tri so much, it's like they made a poll of basic elements fans want in the movie and just wrote the script around it without bothering to keep it coherent or good in any way.
I hate how they throw in characters like the digiemperor and gennai in without it making any sence.
I hate how they ruined the first mega level reveal so bad that in the 4th movie they just throw in 3 at the same time even though its supposed to be a very big moment.
I hate how every kid goes through a basic bitch character arc they should be long over at this point.
I hate how the authors idea of having a more mature tone is being very boring teen drama without any fun involved or even worse, showing sexual harassment
I hate how they go to the digital world like one time and mostly just picknick there, any sence of wonder is gone, it's by far the most bald and boring version of the digital world in the franchise.
I hate how bland and boring the new girl is and how much screentimes she eats up anyway.
I hate how they reused the king drasil storyline for like the 4th time.
I hate how they basically did the same thign as Digimon the movie and cut up a TV show that also looks liek a TV show into 6 movies to market them as such.
I hate how the last movie played butterfly like 10 times in a desperate grab for emotions to the point i almost got tired of it which shouldnt be physically possible
I just really hate how it was supposed to be this big finale for the franchise but it felt like a soulless product in every way, So glad we got Kizuna after it to wahs the taste of piss out of my mouth
Just wanna say this video has made me a mimi appreciator but I have a feeling that when I watched the episode with the geckomon and stuff it awakened something within me
tamers is just intent on being depressing when they could have balance between serious and fun. There is a middle ground between constant suffering and fun.
"Want more Lopmon"
You'll love Digimon Survive!
The longer than expected deep breath is a great comic timing
lemonmon is better name for leomon, it's like getting lemon car, never makes it a full year.
34:24 Wasn’t it said in the last episode of season 1 that time was beginning to sync up with the real world
I Really recommend Digimon Adventure Tri Abridged be Project Mouthwash. It really makes use of the premise, and the digidestined truly feel like maturing teenagers. The jokes are hilarious and the writing is superb. It is so good that I smiled at the Digirap. Seriously.
“Dead cat walking” made me spit.
I bought the boxset, all four seasons....... Never watched it! I only bought it to watch BlackWarGreymon tear up the digital world.. Epic!
Really good video to watch, thank you! Also a UA-camr that doesn't make show cut ins be 5 times louder than their voice for once, hallelujah
I watched the entirety of digimon adventure tri in one night one time. Watching this video, I looked at some frames of the movie and I seriously did not remember any of it. The movies were so unmemorable. Either I skipped some movies or I just remember the first two movies and the ending.
I always liked Tamers, now I love it. The author is a legend.
I feel the same way about Braking Bad as you do with Tamers. I know its a great show and I enjoy it, but it's not what I would go to for entertainment. It's kind of a weird feeling to have.
i can't believe i re watched this review 3 time already.
Different tones is fine as long as it fits the scene
As a rabid foaming train fanatic, Runaway Locomon is one of my favorite OVAs.
You need to watch project mouthwash’s Digimon tri abridged. Especially episode 3. It’s so good!
The dub is good and there arent too many jokes, It is just as serious as fun.
Fascinating how Lilithmon and Mervamon just *had* to be “nerfed” in the dub, but Kazemon and Angewomon got off Scott-Free.
The only thing I gained from this is an insatiable urge to play dw1 again
Adventure (1999): Pretty rough but it's still nostalgic.
Adventure 02: Very messy, with the Christmas Episode, Ken's backstory and World Tour being pretty good episodes. The fetishy stuff like Feet is literal Dan Schneider levels of awful, even if it's in Digimon of all things, 02 isn't great.
Tamers: S. Tier. Stuff. From Guilmon being adorable despite his own problems affecting him, making him feel guilty for his own actions when he isn't, he's always loved. That and Leomon getting deleted + The D Reaper, it's amazing.
Frontier: A few hiccups, The children turn into Digimon instead of getting partners, it's dark and emotional, some missed potential and awful moments, and some good stuff, it's hard to rate this since it's so complicated.
Data Squad/Savers: Very underrated but it's an alright season, can't really say anything bad about this season.
Fusion/Xros Wars: absolutely terrible.
Xros Wars: The Young Boys Who Leapt Through Time: It fixes some of Fusions issues, but it has a lot of missed potential.
App Monsters: It's okay.
Tri: mixed.
Adventure (2020): Oh they messed this up.
Ghost Game: It's good in the first half but it gets repetitive and annoying after a while, ending on a rough note.
Last Evolution / Last Evolution Kazuna: How to fix Tri's problems in a good way.
I disliked the stupid punching Digimon gimmick in Savers myself.
I was about to question why Digimon Ghost Game wasn't in this but STUPID ME... forgot that Ghost Game hasn't ended still. Can't do a Retrospective on Ghost Game if it is still ongoing. LOL XD
thanks for this video! I'm a fan of seasons 1-3 but only recently checked out Frontiers. removing the digimon partners was a mistake, and its really hard to tell their power levels. Cereburmon is an Ultimate in Digimon Survive, but that is the first digimon the main character defeats. I guess that means the human spirits are Ultimate (Agunimon in Digimon World Next Order is), so it feels really unearned. I tried to watch Digimon Fusion but couldn't get past the first 2 episodes. they Digi Cross immediately, and its unclear what power level the fusions are. the trials, tribulations and bonds are supposed to be what aids digivolutions IMO. I might watch more cause the villians look cool. I'll skip Data Squad cause everyone makes it sound bad and I can't find a way to stream it anyway. I'm suprised you don't mention Ghost Games, I really like the premise which feels fresh in a good way! they also go back to the Tamers thing of explaining power levels. and I haven't seen 2020, but the "Mucho Amigo Jalapeno" made me LOL
3:21:28 actually fun fact, that deathmon was made in 2000 (just never used in anything) & even before that in a oneshot manga that counts as digimons first the antagonist was another digimon names deathmon (who has never been seen again)
Hot take: data squad is my favorite. The one I watched the most but adventure will always be a close second
Great retrospective!!
I actually really liked the transition song for Adventure 02
Ryou was also the character Ken met in the Digital World, and of course Ken and Ryou has their own game too.
The fact that Izzy ends up with Mimi is awesome too
Also, the Tamers Radio Drama sounds like Japan saying fuck you to SJWs
Some takes. Adventure 1 and 02 had the best storytelling and benefits from strong Character development (TK, Blackwargreymon, and Ken are the biggest highlights here). Tamers started out slow but the small cast allows for the most well drawn out cast in any Digimon series due to balancing focus between the Digimon and the humans (lots of depth with Guilmon, Impmon, and Renamon). (Cannot judge Fusion or Frontier). Data squad had a compelling concept but the execution falls flat due to poor writing and lack of character devolopment (latter was inexcusable due to the smaller cast). Tri is a good but flawed series that felt too rushed possibly due to constraints (such as King Drasil being defeated off-screen).
I loved Tri so much! Meiko is best girl ❤️
@@CristianLopez-mz1ru i thought Meiko was a great add-in for the Tri cast. Her shy and quiet personality made her stand out from the other cast and I like how they handled Meiko's inner conflict on if they should kill her Digimon or not.
@@gabrielstafford5174 Yeah right? she was such an awesome and complex character, the best female character in the franchise in my opinion. Also I cried so much when they had to kill her partner, Meicoomon deserved better
Meiko just felt like a shallow glorified plot device.
I don't like anime, but listening to you give your opinion on the whole series was interesting, this video as a whole was entertaining.