American Reacts Americans are wrong about the War of Independence from Britain. Here's why.
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It was Brits fighting Brits at the end of the day
Aye, Rebellion is a common repeat in British History, Brits don't like being told what to do unless that Order is to go forth and kick arse!
No it wasn’t. There were many nationalities involved in the USA.
@@jannetteberends8730 Mostly Republican France, continuing the French-English war which had been on/off for at least 500 years at that point.
@@jannetteberends8730 But no Americans! Just Red Indians!
Plus the French, Spanish....
I'm British. Can confirm we don't care.
4th of what? 😂
@@ezzy600 precisely. We don't care. It's just another day to us. Like Chinese new year. We also don't care about that
Does America care when the Philippines celebrates their independence from the USA? No. Same equivalent here.
Facts. If we cared about every country getting independance from us we'd need 3 calanders just to keep track.
What are we not caring about? I must care so little I forgot.
Hollywood never lets the truth or history get in the way of spinning a film that makes America look good.
That's so true....
You can say the same about the way British history is taught. History is written by the winners and with a important dose of political propaganda. Most historical research reveals massive holes in the standard narratives.
@@timothykeech7394 Yes except we in Britain can see and accept the truth but Americans can not. Americans still think Trump is god and the best thing to happen to the world !
@@timothykeech7394 If what you say is true..then the Charge of the Light Brigade was a tactical marvel. And lets not forget how a 1000 Brits died defeating the Zulus at Isandlwana.
I've not forgiven the Americans, who claimed in a film, THEY stopped an U Boat, that the Enigma coding machine was in it, meaning the US were the ones who cracked the code!!
It's true. We really don't care about your July 4th thing. Although we know it's your independence day, we really aren't bothered by it.
To us, it's just your firework day.
Or St Patrick’s day🤷♂️
@@ericthefish01 Because you lost.
I can assure you that at the time, you guys cared a lot. In fact…
It was the beginning of the downfall of the British “Empire.”
It was all downhill for you guys from here.
@@Ira88881 The British Empire was at it's largest way after that, it peaked in size just after WW1 when it acquired Germanys African colonies
@@Justin37ish AFRICAN COLONIES!?
So how did that work out for the British!?
You should go into standup comedy.
Exactly!
What most Americans are not taught about the uprising is this, had it not been for the French, the colonists would have lost.
yep, they ALWAYS omit that part. Some Americans don't even know about that
And the fact we were fighting France and Spain at the same time.
@@Shoomer88 Dont forget the Dutch as well AND aggression from Spain who were in their dying years as a fading maritime super power of the day. taken in the context of the day and without the benefit of seeing what it would develop into in the future.........a couple of mere colonies kicking off in the grand scheme of the worlds largest empire was seen as more of a nusance and headache than a serious threat. in hindsight seeing the colonies as just a minor cash cow to be exploited was a mistake. just imagine what the world would be like today if America and Britain were one Country and the Empire continued from strength to strength.
@@usernamesreprise4068 I think the world would be in an even worse state if they remained one country.
And Spanish. Check General Galvez.
It wasn't even Americans fighting the British, it was British settlers fighting the British.
It was Europeans, not British...... you sound like an American!!!! 🤦
24 stupid people..... Jesus! Morons who have no idea about history???!
@@FozzyZ28British are Europeans
Yeah the "loyalists" were so because their parents and grandparents were British and Dutch mainly
@@FozzyZ28at the time the population was mostly British, I think 20% were African slaves and 10% were non-British - and most that fought for the Patriots were British.
1:20 Mel Gibson's documentary about the War of Independence is second in accuracy only to his one on William Wallace.
America:
-gains independence from a bloody war
Canada:
"Hey can we be independent?"
Britain:
"Can you take care of yourselves?"
Canada:
"Yes"
Britain:
"Alright then go for it"
Beautifully summarised 😂
I'm also a Brit, have to say I dont care about the "war" of independence, it was just a fight between Brits after all. What's more interesting, is the amount of B/S you Americans are fed.
It's not till you leave on a long vacation or search the internet, that you begin to realise, things aren't quiet what you were told to believe. You should question everything, don't take it as given.
Remember, there are a lot of vested interests in America, who like things the way they are. Keeps them very very rich. Loads and loads of Snake Oil Salesmen. Be like us Brits, very cynical.
"Quite"
Don't use the word "Long vacation"... most of them don't know what that is.
They might get at most 2 weeks off in an entire year.
Good point, less words
Cynicism is a relatively new viewpoint, it used to be taught that we 'civilised', educated and generally improved the lives of our colonies through better health care, democracy, security etc. We benevolently improved them. Removing their wealth to our advantage is often not mentioned - minerals, people, agricultural products etc
That's Americans for you they'll believe everything bad said about the rest of the word but when someone says something bad about them they have a little hissy fit
Because of its large insignificance in the grand scheme of things , American rebels only actually face about 1/50th of the British army, which was commanded by one of its worst Generals. If Britain had truly believed it to be a worthwhile war at the time, It would have lasted about a week
Britain was in the middle of another 100 years war with France. The revolution led to the french revolution,and what did America do to help the french aristocracy? nothing.
The people in the colonies were British, before they ever became Americans.
@@alwynemcintyre2184 Really? All the Dutch, German and French people living here were BRITISH!?
Not to mention the Irish, Scots, and Scot-Irish who hated your British guts!?
Plus all those young fighting men BORN here in the colonies!?
The funniest and most ignorant thing in world history is that King George thought they would fight as LOYALISTS, when in fact, if it weren’t for them fighting on the side of independence, American independence wouldn’t have been won.
The guy was retarded, and your analysis of the Revolutionary War appears to point you in the same direction.
It was obviously a big deal for the colonists, but was basically small beer to the motherland. India and the other colonies were far more lucrative. American independence doesn't feature very highly in British history for the same reason that Philippine Independence doesn't feature very highly in US history...and the Philippine-American War was far more brutal.
The Brits see it as a lucky escape,a good idea that got out of hand.
Good Al Murrayism there.
Other countries seem to want the win over us Brits so desperately they even try history changing...US included....USA didn't win,if we were any where near full strength it would've been over very quickly,we were engaged & prioritising other battles...America also fail to mention France helping them....
more trade with Britain and more British immigration post conflict. Great outcome was the end of the French monarchy. Brits are still the largest ancestry group in the US and the ancestral roots of almost all presidents.
And the Spanish and the Dutch
When you think about it. Americans are British. It was the brits fighting brits .
And India was better for Britain . If they wanted America that bad. They would have took it easy
We still own the US, says so in a clause in the declaration.
A lot of the British soldiers never really wanted this fight, it was like been sent to fight against our own cousins or friends that were living and trying to set up a new life in a new found land.
History in movies will only ever show the evil side of the British when in truth there were also many good things, but the problem is the current agenda is to obscure and mislead people into a biased history.
Britain was fighting numerous wars at the same time, plus, we really don't car, you had the French supporting you, without whom you would have lost your revolutionary war.
However in essense - a bunch of terrorists, who had already rebelled by leaving Britain on religious grounds, took up arms against their Lords and Masters (rightly or wrongly is irrelevent) and then got support from our mortal enemy in order to rebel.
An American friend of my younger son once asked me why we don't celebrate the 4th of July.
I replied that we should as it would be a celebration of the comfort and relief brought by an unruly obstreperous disruptive and ungrateful child deciding to leave the family fold.
Btw, it's ironic that after 4 years of living here my son's American friend and his American wife have decided in due course to apply for UK citizenship and have vowed never to go back to the US except to visit close relatives.
They have already had two children born here and cannot contemplate the idea of raising them in the US.
That tells you all you need to know 🤪 🙋♀️🇬🇧💞
Given that British history is so full of invasions and wars not to mention clan feuds we can barely pause for breath when thinking of such things but to think of all the perfectly good tea ☕🫖 wasted in Boston now that does make me cry into my cornflakes! 😭😂
It's not a feeling of we don't care. Watching you now, we feel relieved.
I’m glad she mentioned this- Americans seem to think the Boston tea party was about the tax on the tea being too high- the tea was tax free! The sons of liberty were smugglers of inferior Dutch tea, not as good but it cost less since they weren’t paying taxes on it, then the East India company had liquidity problems and the crown let them sell tea tax free, undercutting the sons of liberty’s tea smuggling operation. This is like the cartel burning down your local mamajuana dispensary, or the mob smashing up bars after prohibition ended. 😂
Tea smuggling was an expensive operation. Ship costs,crew costs etc. the Boston tea party was someone looking for a way to recoup his expenses,and profit. Americans have been falling for the same rubbish all the time.
Mel Gibson's 'The Patriot' is NOT an historical documentary; it's 'Hollywood' entertainment, not fact - it's about as accurate as the U-571 film... 🤣
He said it jokingly, tell me you knew that.............ffs
He said it jokingly, tell me you knew that.............ffs
@OldSmokey1953 did you know that the word "gullible" isn't found in dictionaries?
@@PeterMoore66 yes
@@PeterMoore66
Nice one! 👍
If Britain 'celebrated' or even acknowledged a country gaining independence for the British Empire it would be happening once a week, We don't have the time!
British say happy Independence Day to Americans but most of them don’t know why they are celebrating. It’s just nice to see you are having a party.
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Another thing most Americans do not realise. The first three US presidents had British accents.
Honestly if you bring up the 4th of July in the UK, the most likely response is going to be "Oh yeah that film with Jeff Goldblum and Will Smith?" I covered this period at university though. As a side note, a lot of US academia on early US history isn't taken as seriously as it should be by the rest of the world, because early US history has *so many lies* told about it for recent and current political gain, they've lost patience trying to vet who is trying to write genuine history and who is trying to score points for either side in the culture wars.
Three fun facts:
1) You can trace the roots of the revolution to something called the Somerset Decision, which tl;dr is "If a slave sets foot on Britain they are automatically freed. Slavery is so foul that it has to be written into law or the courts refuse to acknowledge its existence"
One of the proposed solutions to the grievances raised by the colonies by people like Edmund Burke was to give them seats in the UK parliament and treat them like part of the home soil. Which would mean that all those slaves would automatically be freed. Therefore the demands became "No taxation without representation - oh but not like that"
2) Another major cause of grievances that isn't talked about that much is the Proclamation Line, ie: "Britain doesn't want to fight another war in North America, please don't start a war with the natives by settling past this line on the map." However, the plantation farming in use at that specific time wore out the land, so the slave owners knew they had to keep on expanding, adding another incentive to rebel in order to retain slavery. This and the previous fact, with a few other bits and pieces, gave the colonists the impression that the British government was winding up to abolish slavery, which was the main part of the economy at that point.
3) The word "Lynching" comes from a supporter of the revolution, who went around lynching entire families in order to seize their property - starting off with loyalists but moving on to anyone he felt was an easy target.
Thank you....interesting...!!!! I love history....true history.....I go mad at some representations of it in films.....I was in the cinema a few years ago(forgotten what I was going to see) the previews of other films came up,one was U 571.....I watched not knowing where this was going....but soon as I saw the Enigma machine I laughed and shouted Whaaat..!!!! Us Brits had already broken the German Enigma by 1940....!!!! People are so ready to believe anything seen in a film.....I don't....if I'm interested I go and find out as much about it as I can.....The truth is usually more interesting.....
You hit the nail on the head Conor. We wanted Canada (fur) and West Indies (sugar). To us, USA was just the wild west and didn't warrant the time and manpower needed to make it worth fighting for. Also don't forget that the french and dutch were stoking the American flames and we were far more interested in fighting both in Europe. Especially now, we know we dodged the bullet over there 👍Also, you didn't pay your taxes 😂😂
It's also easy in hindsight to look at the massive territory and natural resources that the USA expanded into and conclude that was a miscalculation, but gaining so much territory from other European powers would almost certainly not have happened if they were handing them over to a branch of the British Empire instead of the effective buffer state of the USA
George Washington had already started the french Indian war that led to the whole need to tax American colonists. This was despite being told to leave the french alone.
@@Trebor74 Correct..and the colonists appealed for money from George 111, for the Indian Wars, which George agreed to, BUT the money had to be repaid...It never was, so then the tax on tea was one of the ways to get it..
England was also busy fighting the French which spilled over into Canada. Before the British defeated the French in Canada, the French owned territory from the eastern seaboard of Canada down to Louisiana.
In the UK, Liverpool was a major port with significant transatlantic trade interests and feared the war would hurt their economic prospects (which came to be true) In Manchester - The city’s radical political tradition, which later fuelled reform movements, had early roots in opposition to authoritarian government, including British policies toward America. There were also anti-war movements and protests in London, Bristol. Bet they dont teach that in American High schools, eh?
This makes little sense because Liverpool's heyday was after American independence. It was THE port of the world in the 19th century, which was obviously later. It was the end of Empire which killed off Liverpool's port -- not America.
@@francisedward8713 Its been a while, and ive seen the plaque on the building in Liverpool where dedicated to the republics fight. I'd have to try and find it on google maps or something, but scousers (people from Liverpool) are very proud of it. They've always been anti-establishment.
@@francisedward8713 Scousers trying to claim they are radicals.
Connor, more important to the UK is the 'Commonwealth of Nations' (which has 56 member countries around the world) - The US is NOT a member, although it mainly consists of countries who were all once part of the 'British Empire' ('BE'). But also note that several countries who were NOT part of the 'BE' requested to join for economic and supportive reasons. The last four countries to join the Commonwealth; Mozambique, Rwanda, Gabon and Togo, have no historical ties to the 'BE'.
EDIT: I thought it was important to mention they are not all 'small' countries, and included in the list of members (in no particular order) are Australia, New Zealand, Nigeria, Canada, Barbados, Ghana, India, South Africa, 'et al'. Maybe you should 'look into' the Commonwealth, perhaps?
America has a commonwealth of 4 states, dunno why but it has..Kentucky, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, and Virginia
To put it in context 48 countries officially have an Independence Day from Britain with 65 in total gaining independence but some are not bothered to celebrate. So one of 48 lol. At the time Britain was fighting wars on 4 other fronts also so we kind of had our hands full lol.
Honestly the 4th doesn’t bother a single Brit over here, I’ve never even heard anyone mention it aside from Americans, of course we’re happy for you guys and stuff but considering we’ve been around since long before the Romans and have fought, won and lost wars between then and now, for us it’s quite far down the list. Of course America isn’t very old at all and this, aside from WW2 and Vietnam was a big deal, we just don’t see it as such, we were also in a full scale war across the world fighting Napoleon and others around the same time, full love and respect to our US cousins, it’s just not that deep or thought of over here. 🇬🇧🤝🏽🇺🇸. I also wouldn’t take ‘The Patriot’ (although a great film coming from a Brit) as historical fact when Mel Gibson also made ‘Braveheart’ depicting William Wallace as this heroic freedom fighter who was just, fair and honourable but forgets to mention he hung women and children from castle walls and terrorised villages and towns full of innocent people getting on with their daily lives, did the English do the same? Yes but we also don’t lie about it and get taught the good bad and ugly from a very young age, my daughters 8 and she’s currently learning about this very thing at school and understands we weren’t angels… American schools seem to tell a very one sided and half truth story of historic events if they are involved, as this video just showed, always do your own research guys.
It was really a civil war - and the British Crown sent troops to support the Loyalists against their rebels. Only a 3rd of colonists supported the rebellion, a third stayed pretty neutral, and third were Loyalists. France was a far bigger threat, and much, much closer to home - and it was the French made Britain decided the colonists could go! And Britain NEVER had an army big enough to hold any country, even tiny ones, that did not want to held - it always totally depended on local troops and support. Britain was so totally a trading Empire above everything else.
Lets be clear if it was not for the British where would America be? You are virtually all descendants of the little island over the pond, except the native Americans that is.
I think that the imagery of the American War of Independence is about reaffirming the identity of US citizens today, which is necessary. I'm British but born in Canada, probably a little more sensitive about who were the 'good' guys than most British people, who really don't care, as I'm aware of Canada's struggle to stay with the Crown, ignoring the overtures of Donald Trump.
Great vidio & always love your comments Connor. 🏴👍
I’ve gone through life never hearing anyone care about it. It was spoken about in history at school but that’s what it is at the end of the day. Why would we care about something we never experienced. It’s not a badge to hold over to us and we all know that Mel Gibson likes to lie in films. I am keen to learn more though so thanks for the video.
Most of the signatories of the declaration were Welsh or of Welsh decent, as were most of your first ten presidents. It was a welsh war of independence on foreign soil.
You welsh are pathetic when you try to claim everything.
There is no evidence of that. I've just checked. Of the 8 that were born in Europe, only one was from Wales, the least amount of them.
I've seen scots claim John Adams as his family coming from Scotland but they came from Essex.
Over 30 of the signatories had Scottish (though more likely English as Adams shows) ancestry whereas only 16 (again most of them probably have English as well) so most were not welsh, it wasn't a welsh on welsh war. 🤣🤣
Most us Presidents have English ancestry and you know that is true because the yanks admit that and they hate admitting that.
There were as many from the caribbean as from the welsh which
You welsh need to stop lying and trying to steal credit from other countries, specifically England.
I live near Harwich, home of the mayflower and its captain.
Even they don't really mention it anymore 😂
Franklin was living in his house in London around that time.
Our history class in the 1970s and the decades before used to completely cover the American war of independence, after the Seven Years War. However there were very few years from the start of the 18th Century when Britain wasn't fighting someone somewhere in the world and usually large scale warfare on land and sea.
Franklin did send a French agent to Montreal at one point, with a printing press, to encourage an uprising amongst the French. That didn't work, but it was the start of the still existent Montreal 'Gazette' newspaper in 1778.
America is like the rouge child of Britain that ran away from home, got hooked on illegal stuff and ended up living in the gutter
Then claimed to be "better".
Taxes were a big part of the reason for independence, however, on April 18th, 1775, the British troops were ordered to march to the rural towns and confiscate the firearms and ammunition stashes the colonists were smuggling in. This is where you have Paul Revere and his famous midnight ride warning the town. On April 19th, 1775, 77 minutemen(militiamen) stood their ground on what’s known as the Lexington Green, as hundreds of British soldiers advanced. Nobody knows to this who fired the first shot but “the shot heard around the world” was fired, and the first skirmish of the American Revolution was underway. The minuteman took a few casualties and retreated. Later that same day the British soldiers marched into Concord and were ambushed from all sides and were completely outnumbered. My favorite point in the American revolution. There were many reasons why the colonists were pissed off, but It all started when the government tried to take our guns. Gun control ignited the powder keg. Also, on the Declaration of Independence, the largest signature is of John Hancock. The British hated this man more than any American colonist. He raided supply convoys, he smuggled in weapons and supplies, he smuggled in tea from other countries to avoid payin taxes on British tea. TRUE AMERICAN who wanted the government to leave him alone.
The most wild thing to me is that we actually let 3 coughing babies with atom bombs become world superpowers
End of the day it was a family fight
You forgot the decisive help of the French and King Louis XVI to the Insurgents. France is the first country to recognize American Independance.
For Info at that time England was populated 7.000.000 while France was nearly 30.000.000.
Benjamin Franklin was in France (Paris and Versailles) searching for help
I’d also add the Prussian help in training the soldiers to help defeat the British so it was French and German help that enabled us to win.You’re correct that Franklin went to France to beg for money to fund our cause and if France had turned us down,there wouldn’t have been a French Revolution.Their financial support of the U.S. caused the French Revolution to happen
Regarding the text you struggled with a little:
- The long s, [ſ], also known as the medial s or initial s, is a form of the lowercase letter [s], found mostly in works from the late 8th to early 19th centuries.
I recommend that you read the wikipedia article titled "Long s".
- Just as it is done in German to this day, for example, all nouns were capitalized in English at that time (and before),
no matter whether it was a concrete or an abstract term (Flower, House, Responsibility, Love...).
It was not until the 19th century that English speakers became "lazy" and stopped capitalizing nouns, except for certain names such as proper names (of people, cities, countries...).
However, you can still see capitalized nouns in titles of English books, plays, movies, etc., like in "Kingdom of the Planet of the Apes".
As always, warm greetings from Vienna, Austria! 🙂
You haven't explained why that is 'lazy'.
@@Gambit771 Sorry, I was writing this text quite fast, and that was the first adjective that came to my mind. Please, don't take it too seriously. I didn't mean to be disrespectful.
@@ClemensKindermann that's cool. 😁
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Eh, when I had mandatory German, I'll admit that I only sometimes capitalised nouns due to laziness (except around Christmas when we got lebkuchen for perfect work, all nouns were capitalised and everything was properly spelled).
using f for s was a common habit in those times, in most of Europe. It was the same in France.
Also, King George had reduced support from his Aristo military commanders, forcing him to hire German mercenaries from Hess. ("The Headless Horseman" in Sleepy Hollow.)
Im british and from Rotherham and we have a castle (hunting lodge) which was built to comemorate the boston tea party, as the earl of efffingham who was in the whig party ,who are now the conservative party built to celebrate the americans victory.
In school they only ever taught us about the wars we won , ie ww2 which we would have never had won without our american compadres 😆 even if they did turn up late 😂😂😂
i'm impressed with the way you put it in perspective, and knew a lot more about what i did on what was happening in that kind of time. i thought Franklin was ambassador to France during the war. and you are right about 4th july; without the signing of the document none of the rest happens. there is no war, just protests ongoing until something breaks - or we arrive at a different date for a declaration of independence. i am surprised the date your independence was secured isnt also celebrated, and wonder why that is.
Brit here… and I’m from Billericay which 6/9 of the original pilgrims came from 😉 I get it. It’s the first war and the war that created and defined the USA and like any country it’s a big thing unfortunately not for us Brits. William the conquer yeah. I see the USA as our brothers n sisters and that is why we will stand firm with you throughout although my grandparents would beg to dither. They god bless there souls had a bad taste in their mouths about WW2 because it took you lot 4 years before you came to your senses and assisted us against the Nazis. My nan & grandad were bombed day n night for years while the states twiddled with their fingers and even then you really only intervened when you knew if we fall the last hope for Europe you were next. Imagine, invasion on home soil 😳 the world would be totally different to what we know it.
Love you Americans too !! Peace Brother just Peace.
Your intro was eight seconds of indoctrination by your educational system. The British founding fathers wanted to trade fairly with Britain and the world, and we made great strides in this aim. France and Spain, our main economic and military competitors at the time wanted to thwart our ambitions and wanted, at all costs, to prevent the British from holding on to the north American continent as, had we kept it, our Empire would have benefitted immensely. Thus, they lent their military support to the rebels and, there being other wars in which we were engaged, we simply made a tactical withdrawal. "America" did not defeat us.
Oh, and by the way, the "no taxation without representation" BS was all about a 3% levy by the British on imported tea - drum roll....hence the Boston Tea Party. For context; In Britain the VAT (sales tax) is 20%. Has there ever been a national rebellion (or "hissy-fit") over this disproportionate tax? No. Go figure.
Hardly, the French defeated the British at Yorktown and Britain had no choice.
@nedludd7622 you don't win wars with a corpse mountain holding a flag up
Surely the I trousers was a joke on his part?
@@nedludd7622 that's the whole point, Britain decided there were far more important things happening globally and it wasn't worth a prolonged fight to keep the Americas so they withdrew.
America rewrote the history in a more positive light as often happens.america might have won a protracted war but the truth is it didn't happen as England left as they had far more important colonies to look after eg India.
Don't forget at that time England had the biggest military in the world but they didn't use the vast majority of it.
Back in those days, 'f'' and 's' were the same letter. They didn't become two separate letters until much later.
As an englishman, I believe that America separating was inevitable, but regardless of history spilling tea, an amicable relationship exists. 🇬🇧 🇺🇲
Have you asked yourself why Canada still exited after the War of Independence and again after 1815? Another question is, what are the differences in US and Canadian Society with reference to Political Stability, Societal Equality, Societal Peace, Societal Cohesion between Racial groupings (White, Black, Indigenous Natives), and levels of Societal Violence, Crime and Penal Imprisonment. Viewed from the inside, the picture is not what others on the outside see, which is a land of great wealth & opportunity for a few (getting fewer), but with a (increasing) majority being already in 3rd World conditions, or too rapidly approaching that situation with little, or no, acceptable State safety net.
It always elicits a wry smile from me when I hear Americans talking as if they were the colonised and not the colonisers.
Around the same time as the american rebellion, the great siege of gibraltar was going on, the brits chose to divert warships and men away from the american colonies, essentially saying "meh fuck the americas actually, not worth it, we'll just maintain trade and pull out of forcing governance on what are essentially criminals and blue collar workers" and diverted it to maintaining gibraltar's independence from spain and it's free government. This really pissed off spain and france as they had diverted massive amounts of their fleets/armada to harry logistical routes between the americas and England, many many spanish and french sailors died in the open pacific waiting for a fleet that just never came.
Then, once the rebellion was over, they established relations with the new government of america and charged them even more for trade relations, forcing the american government to impose the same level of taxation that the empire would have, I also remember some sources stating it was even more than that; as america needed the labour, skilled workers and intellectuals that the empire had to offer. It was very much not a war for independence, but a war to establish the early stages of a corporate oligarchy and cede control over unfounded lands away from any kings or queens, hunting rules and mining regulations so they could focus primary on profiteering off the early untouched land. and an oligarchy it remains.
Gibraltar is still a british (colony) self governed territory/tiny country to this day and remains the entryway to the mediterranean sea. source: I live there and we learn about this in school, many of our textbooks, even the ones written by spanish and french reference the empires choice of gibraltar over the americas, probably some wikipedia pages out there too but i've not checked.
2:09 Yes, they don't teach it because they're embarrassed by it, AND, because they sort of think we still belong to them... they CARE very much that we pulled away from them, and it digs at them.
As long as Trumpery is around the UK will also be celebrating July 4th!!!
Britain does not celebrate the 4th of July what are ypu waffling about 😂 we dont care about anyone's independence just another day to us noone on this planet celebrates american independence only America
The founding fathers all spoke with a British accent we were fighting our own people
I'd rather "trumpery" than two tier lying comrade starmergeddon.
It's nothing personal, we just have so many former colonies we can't possibly be expected to remember them all.
It was the 'Third English Civil War' apparently.
English? Not British? You seem to be welsh , so basically English.
@@Bob-bo8ik Sorry, I just got what you meant!
@@Bob-bo8ik Tudors were Welsh.
@@bremnersghost948 Yes, and the Stuarts were Scots.
@@jujutrini8412 Well yes, but to be pedantic, more like Scots/ French/ and maybe a little bit Dane.
They would be the monarchy today except for William & Mary and the Glorious Revolution aka Dutch Protestant takeover.
Hi Conner, something you might find interesting to read at some time is ‘ John Lilburnes Leveller Manifesto ‘ this was written in 1649, the Levellers were a group of Men who wanted certain rights after winning the English Civil War, unfortunately Oliver Cromwell being a thoroughly nasty individual decided to execute the leaders of the group rather than listen to their points, some of these leaders escaped and travelled to the American Colonies, where they spread the word of their beliefs, these beliefs are very similar to what became America’s founding documents, written as they were in the vernacular of the time they’re a little drawn out but you will see where the sentiment matches, you can almost believe that the seeds of the American Revolution were sown 125 years before they bore fruit, keep learning, knowledge is after all power.
17:04 I think it was a bit earlier than when Uptown Girl by Billy Joel was in the charts.
We were more bothered about our other colonies tbh....
Benjamin Franklyn invented bi-focal eye-glasses.
Side note... We don't call it a war. We call it a Policing action. It's not a war.
I had an argument with an American , he thought we named our country after there language 😅😅😅
11:08 random linguistics stuff. The ‘long s’ character still survives in German in the form of the ligature ‘ß’ which stands for two ‘s’ in a row. It comes from handwriting. The capitalisation of common nouns was part of English at the time and still is in German (also at the time and until comparatively recently, we used to compound words much more liberally in a way similar to German but with hyphens. For example, Oxford Street would be written as Oxford-street)
Makes sense they wanted to call America "Colombia". Canada was named "British Colombia"
the way you explained it at the start is, i think, the primary issue...
'they tried to force taxes on us' is factually incorrect, the increased tax levy had been agreed to by the colonies, when they requested britain's aid against the french, during the onset of the 7 year war.
that america refused to uphold it's end of the bargain, after the british saved them, and then rebelled over it, wouldn't go down well as an origin story though.
The Revolutionary War from the British side...
Young kid swears he's a big boy now and is going to leave home...
YK: Mom, Dad, I'm grown up, I don't want to cut the lawn & clean my room! I'm leaving home! and you can't stop me!
Flounces out, slams door & leaves all the lights on...
Parents: "it's like Blackpool illuminations in here... Now sonny, if you leave, you cannot come back. If you go out you stay out..."
YK: "I don't care & you can't stop me! Don't even try!"
Parents: (insert super sarcastic tone...) Noooo, wait, don't gooooo... (Locks door behind the ungrateful brat).
Got this in 1st Year at High School late 70's, 🏴
He never said ‘the British are coming’ as everyone in the colony was theoretically ‘British’. He didn’t even make it to Concord.But thanks to Wordsworth’s poem ‘Midnight Ride’ his name is enscibed in American folklore. The credit must go to 16 year old Sybil Ludington who rode twice the distance - 40 miles to complete the mission and warn others...
Benjamin Franklin was in Europe getting America support (and a decent navy, the american navy was tiny) from the French, Spanish and Dutch. Which lead to America victory.
It’s like a Tuesday in our thousand plus years of history 🤔🤣
I disagree …North America was the catalyst theatre for the most impactful war in "the history of the planet". You have to look at the planet right now in country names, delineated areas, and, the vast majority of legal, political, economic structures being adapted from Anglo and Franco systems to realise this.
It was manifest destiny because if North America had waited to revolt, or lost this war, the UK would industrialise only decades later, making them double the military force of any other nation for a short period once they had adapted steam power to the military, E.g.: hence their shocking domination of China with "one Steamboat". This would have made the future uprising impossible and easy to destroy. The Only reason why this Military dominance didn't last very long later on, was because they had lost this war earlier and had no reasons to keep industrial ideas quiet for reasons of national security, In case needing to prevent another insurrection. Even Thomas Sowells research(Check his research on "the Germans") shows that British industrialists and entrepreneurs sold industrial techniques to US, French and delegates from the German states in the early 19th century. If the Brits won the war of independence this would not have happened due to needing to keep information covert for national-security in case another uprising happened and tech would have developed more slowly in the world, especially outside UK.
*There would be no 1st and 2nd world war and PROBABLY no existence of USA, Germany, Italy, several other European states and colonial countries all over the world if the colonists lost this war. The French aristocracy wouldn't have vengefully risked everything about that countries Structure in supporting the colonists and would have had time to implement a constitutional monarchy(LaFayette's pre-American Revolution original intention), meaning no Napoleonic wars and it would be unlikely that the German and Italian states states would be able to stop the powerful Aristocratic French state from meddling in their affairs and preventing unity, which is what the French aristocracy had carefully managed in the HRE for hundreds of years, knowing full well that a unified German state would be a major threat with its much larger population and better natural resources. Bismarck managed this ONLY because France was in the weakest state in its history circa 1850-80
One thing they always forget to mention Is the number of Americans or, to be exact,the colonists who moved North into Canada after the end of the war, including natives.
"Independence Day" the day America saved the free world from an Alien invasion curtesy of Will Smith!
Respect UK! You know it’s the History for the most part ! They don’t have them hot beaches and all that clap! 😂
I was playing Xbox live on July 4th and some American kid wished me a happy July 4th and he was smirking and awaiting my response. I just replied happy July 4th mate after a long pause. Thinking to myself does this kid actually think we begrudge them their independence. No. I'm glad we lost.
I'd have asked him how his "Active shooter drills" were coming along... kid's probably an expert at hide and seek.
americans see it as a win we see it as a lucky fooking escape
Al Murray
According to information available, 65 countries are recognized to have gained independence from the United Kingdom, making it the largest colonial empire in history America nothing special 😅
The tallest straightest pine trees were earmarked for masts on Royal Navy men'o'war, and I think the colonists were using them for firewood.
Americans see this as a victory, we see it as a lucky escape, high maintenance pain in the ass doesn't come close to what hard work the colonies had become.
Its like the Pilgrims, we did NOT chase them out and force them onto the Mayflower, they chose to leave to set up a new colony with their strict sect of religion and avoid persecution here.
I,m Briitsh and I have been to the states and a lot of Americans still think its great for beating us.
Hope you educated them...
"I have been to the states". You poor poor thing. If you need coucilling, I can assist.
I too have endured that suffering for approximately an entire month in a 2 year period between 2003 and 2005. We stayed in a prison called "Florida".
@ No its an amazing country,but we Brits are a different bred to Americans and Canadians,have a great day.
For you, the day the British left your country was the most important day of your lifes. But for us, it was Tuesday.
You have the 1812 to 1814 war where Americans attacked a fishing port a couple of times they thought it was another place and didn't hung around long enough to fight British forces. Did that history get into American history when they used people who had left Britain when they were young children to help to guide some ships though British water but only attacked fisherman. And where you get the term white house and the US signs a deal of non aggression against Britain and for America to provide ships in the fight against slavery in the 1818 to 1840s to fight and release slaves take them back home if possible or to provide a starting point from slave trader ports and African shorelines to the Americas. from south America, Africa, far east and Europe when Britain add banned slavery again in Britain 1807 and with new laws in 1820s and 1830s that any lands still slaving people would be attacked by British and those allies who signed up to non aggression treaties until the Americans agreement was squashed when they sighted that they wanted to carry on slavery and did so so British ships run down all slave ships sold them ships returning slaves if possible or taking them on has sailors on board British and American ship I think they had two ships before they changed their minds and went back to slavery. It was only after the end of the french, Britain had more ships to fight slavery. If you remember that soap opera root's the writer of the book losted a court case about him, taking someone else's work and adding it to his own work or best seller root's in this case he paid out $700,000 and costs to another writer he had stole 90 something pages of his work and put into the root's TV show allegedly which now was 90 pages shorter and made up stuff to fill it and that's roots for you some forgotten truths mixed in with made up stuff who stolen someone's part work but made money on this tail of adventure of best seller's lists to court cases losses, and this person had to made up some of that book, that the root's writer thought was real but wasn't allegedly. Oh the white house was buried by the British and freed the slaves working there who was were stealing the silver cutlery, and when later captured by US government forces they claimed they were saving them items from the British soldiers and the house stood up against the fire and was white washed and that's it's name, and signing of a non aggression treaty that still stands today we say, the US do, that's why we stayed out of the American war on Vietnam has it was known as" Vietnamese called that, American war, when America sank it's own ship in Vietnamese water's to start that war" another fun fact about America in which you losted, that one, too also many of the colonial people were Dutch, Germans, french and verity of Indians tribes not just British and some had been there longer than some British Americans and we have had wars with their descendants for centuries
Love mom
PARAGRAPHS! Please.
Sin España, Francia no podía hacer gran cosa, no tenia fuerza naval suficiente . Las Colonias dependian de la ayuda de España.
She is trying to give a different point of view. Why will you not listen ?
This! More interested in telling us everything he knows on the topic instead of reacting to the video.
It's not really a reaction video if he sits there in silence and watches someone else's video.
@ Did not suggest that he sit in silence.
In the end, it was just too expensive to have that war, so we went home. :D
Don't think we all went home ,we went north and drew a line, it's still there.
Just think. If they hadn't rebelled, like Canada, you'd have free health care😂
Yes, I am also British and the rebellion was a bit of a side show for us. But, it was very courageous to take on the Empire. You have to respect that kind of bravery.
The reason they revolted over Pine Trees is that the Crown King George claimed all White Pine Trees his own for use as Ship Masts. She’s right it’s not a big deal in UK history. But it doesn’t really make any other important points. My Second Cousin 8 times removed made the original motion to declare Independence in June of 1776. Richard Henry Lee. My Third Cousin 9 times removed was also in the War, Benedict Arnold.
About the Boston Tea Party, here we have a group of guys making a protest with an act of vandalism while disguising themselves as native Americans. Let's shift the blame ! Some courage! Some heroism!
Im from Northern Ireland, i can safely say, given our history, No One even mentions 4 July unless the know UA-camrs 😂😂😂
6:55
I notice the British spelling of "neighbourhood"😅
When did it change? Webster?
From memory, our history lessons really only mentioned the American War of Independence in the context of King George's madness. (Far more important to Britain's future as a whole, I guess!) It was argued, supposedly, that had George's mental health been sound, the colonies wouldn't have been lost. We certainly never learned about any specific battles or personalities.
What has happened to British education?
In the late 1950s I was taught that George's madness was irrelevant to anything to do with governance of the UK or what has happened in our colonies.
It was impressed upon us that from the Glorious Revolution, the subsequent declaration of the ascendancy of parliament and the raising of the Bill of Rights onwards the opinions of monarchs only held sway if they coincided with those of the ruling political party and the rich people they represented in parliament.
The idea that any monarch since, including Victoria, was a "strong leader" has always been a con perpetrated on the masses, that is ordinary people who have
misplaced and undeserved affection for royalty.
@@crackpot148 Sure. But if you're a political faction that benefits from maintaining the power of the monarchy (illusory or otherwise), or if you are looking to replace the monarch with another, then that's narrative you push.
Yes, I agree.
In the case of the American "revolution" that narrative of a mad king actually ruling was deployed by the rebels. They conned their own people.
Now Americans live in a country where the reigns of power are firmly held by the hands of super-rich oligarchs. Ordinary folk have no say, all the while thinking they do and that they are "free".
I could say much the same thing about the deeply flawed UK political system.
@@crackpot148You missed out Elizabeth the First,
@@crackpot148 You aren't doing and favours for British education in the 50s.
No mention of the French. At Yorktown the French outnumbered the American army, and it was a French/Spanish fleet that stopped resupply of the besieged army