Florence Pugh is so mesmerizing to me that I completely forgot about the opening and got sucked into the film. Whenever Kitty broke the fourth wall, it sent a chill down my spine, like, oh... right... you know I'm here.
The Wonder is a phenomenal film. We appreciate the breakdown of it down from the opening all the way to the end. It has its staggering complexities that can be tricky to decode.
I was so happy that the characters get a happy ending. IRL, a girl in a similar story just ended up starving and her parents were arrested for child neglect. I thought that Kitty's character was also a way of acknowleding that the story isn't going to go the way it went IRL so often times. At least a few of these girls ended up dying after not being able to eat under medical supervision. I'm also glad the film pointed out how the medical profiessionals were just as responsible for the death of the girls as the parents were. IRL only the parents were arrested.
No Catholic in there right mind would allow there child to die from starvation. The only saint who died from starvation was in 1352 Saint Catherine, and she was never encourage to fast to the point of malnutrition. She died because she couldn't swallow. My Great grandparents lost a few of there children because they were starved to death by the English Huns in Ireland.
wonderful film with powerful acting and story telling, I feel it could have done without the 4th wall breaking. the director talks about using this to make you believe the film and the story but I feel it does the opposite. you watch a film to fall into that world and be wrapped up in story and atmosphere, the 4th wall breaking broke me out of the world and makes me remember it was all fake and tarnishes the solid quality of the rest of the film.
Maybe that is by design. The framing device is supposed to be jarring. You're supposed to dislike it and take you out of your immersion. So for every person who feels like you do, maybe it's an accomplishment for the film. It's not gonna win them a following or anything, but it does set the film apart.
What if they are saying that belief is like this set.. when we are in it we believe that is our world but only when we see the whole picture we realise that belief is a powerful story we tell ourselves.
@@adorablegirl1559 I'm sorry that's your own interpretation. It had no impact on the movie at all. It acts like spoon-feeding your viewers a little further into explaining that this was a story and these were just characters.
@@fmkhan213You’re wrong. @adorablegirl1559 is right. The narrator is trying to show us how harmful is it to be trapped inside harmful beliefs. Narrator is not there to spoon feed anything, she’s there to deliver that powerful message.
I know people have different opinions on the fourth wall, but for me it was a necessary part of the film. I interpreted it as a way for us to reconcile the terrible tragedies of real life and immortalize them. The horror of economic crises, unnecessary martyrdom, unreasoning and unyielding religious fanaticism, the destructive and smothering force of patriarchal institutes, represented in a board of powerful members who would rather let a young girl die than be embarrassed by the truth. What our collective human consciousness in later centuries wished could have been, a projection of the dream of saving a helpless child from senseless suffering in a world and time where so many died or starved, for reasons that weren't good enough to justify it. The real wonder that the film encapsulates is the message that miracles aren't enacted in sainthood, but the power of ordinary human love and compassion, made so transcendental as to supersede any need for evidence of God. The ending is important to me because it hits you where the message is most important. Those people in real life WEREN'T saved and we have to question the narratives and stories we tell ourselves that allow these terrible events to happen in the first place. My take, anyway.
yo, i think you need a lot of credit on this very descriptive writing, your opinion is well heard, and i highly appreciate the way you portray a different perspective than thinking like everyone else. Im doing a speech on this movie and its interesting philosophy, and your well written opinion of it has helped me greatly.
@@Minston..Nickbrick Thank you! This was a very special movie for me. My family grew up very religious and this movie helped me process a lot and was very much a healing experience for me.
If the mother wanted her daughter to die in atonement for what happened to the girl's brother, then why was the mother secretly feeding the girl through goodnight kisses all those months, then suddenly decided to stop doing it after the nurse ordered no one get closer to the girl? The nurse later begs the mother to return feeding the girl mouth-to-mouth but the mother refused.
The whole family would have to admit that they lied if she came clean - it would ruin her reputation, and she might get into trouble for faking the whole thing. She basically pushed her daughter to begin starving herself. If the truth came out, she would have to tell people why Anna started the fast in the first place. Not just that, she still holds Anna responsible for her brother's death. To let her die now would be to maintain the illusion of her having the divine power of not needing to eat, while also punishing her for her brother's death. In the true story of the Welsh fasting girl, her parents let her die too. They didn't want to come clean even though they knew she was eating small amounts of food.
The mother believed that the brother is in hell and can only be released if Anna attones for their sin by fasting and repeating payers many times. Her daughters death wouldn't save her son. She wanted punishment for Anna or wished her dead instead of her son but she could never admit those feeling to herself. It would mean she is a bad christian and doomed as well. Desiring revenge is a great sin. So is suicide or encouraging it. The way it went she could still lie to herself that it was the girls decision or Gods will and that she is pure and moral.
The fame was putting food on the table. It was actually really common at the time for children, especially girls to starve when their family couldn’t afford food and act like it was a holy situation.
@@mrinalinibadrinarayanan2940 I like this explanation in that it really means it was just a grift from the start. Rather than seeing the son's death as divine punishment, maybe his death (e.g. suicide covered up?) was still somehow related to his unnatural relationship with his sister, which her mom blames her for. Once the nurse figures out how the daughter is being fed, the mother figures that while she can count on God to keep his mouth shut, her daughter might be unreliable, so she complies with the nurse's orders. Mother was right as the daughter does start revealing secrets. Of course the problem with that idea is that it is not consistent with the thematic through line on belief, unless the mom's belief was about he believing she would enjoy being exposed as a fraud? 😅
We each believe our own stories--it explains why one God is different from another, or some of us are atheists. Why some people cling to guns and hatred, and others can square things up no matter. A wonderful, thoughtful film with Florence Pugh acing yet another role.
Thank you! I was wondering so much about the drugs Florence's character uses. I guess it makes sense now, but why does she lick her own blood off her finger and only then it seems like the drugs are kicking in?? Is it just a "gorey" element to make the scene feel more uncomfortable/mysterious? Or does this little action have another meaning I don't see?
I looked it up after and all I could find is that the finger pricking is a ritual self harm, I think it’s just a coincidence the drugs hit when she licks the blood
To me it’s like her own reminder that she’s still alive…. Kind of like “pinch me, am I dreaming?” As I take these drugs to remember/forget/ease the pain, let me prick myself and remember I’m still here. Idk just my take lol I’d love to know the writer/directors explanation though!
It was morphine and it hits you pretty quick. You could buy morphine back then without a prescription. You can also accidently kill yourself. Take too much you're dead in seconds. I've had morphine for pain under medical supervision.
great movie, good take on the flow and 4th wall and BTS moments. great opening and closing stating the obvious and connection with the past and the present.
@@kennyhicks4111 you choose your story, you decide if the cat is alive or dead, if the bird is in or out... in... out. you pull the strings of your life, so the bird can be in or out... every character in this film pulled the strings, except the one who broke the 4th and spoke about it... at least that's what i feel like about it.
Ok this video was helpful because I needed to ensure what I assume to be what I believe in the story to be true (my version of the story) therefore exactly what the director's intention was. Well played! Great movie and amazing acting!.
At the end? It’s the same actresses who plays Kitty with the family. She also looks into the camera at one point and introduces herself, it’s not clear to me why she’s the narrator character though
@@lentilneeds but how does she know about all the events she’s not there for? What’s her point of view? It’s like she’s only made the narrator to connect the 4th wall break to the rest of the film and to tell us the film is objective even if the rest of the film and her character don’t match it. No matter how I think about it I can’t see how her character makes sense as the narrator when the story isn’t accessible to her, showing her learning to read isn’t enough
It struck me that this film has a lot in common thematically with The Life of Pi. Both use an unusual framing device and present religion as a matter of choosing one’s own stories. Don’t want to spoil Life of Pi but SPOILER It’s about choosing between a story that is a harsh and uncomfortable reality and one that is more colourful and comforting. The choice can be seen as a metaphor for choosing between the harsh reality of atheism which involves accepting mortality and the more comforting story of religion which promises eternal life.
Although the mother wanted her daughter to cleanse for the sins of both children through fasting and prayer, she also still had an innate sense of protection. She’d convinced the daughter it wasn’t really eating.
"The fourth wall is a performance convention in which an invisible, imaginary wall separates actors from the audience. While the audience can see through this wall, the convention assumes the actors act as if they cannot. From the 16th century onward, the rise of illusionism in staging practices, which culminated in the realism and naturalism of the theatre of the 19th century, led to the development of the fourth wall concept.[1][2]" ~from Wikipedia.
If every movie was edited based on the intelligence or perception skills of every single viewer it will reach, there would be like 5 minutes runtime left of most of them.
Idk I kinda get why some people like this movie but I barely made it through. It was just boring as hell, Florence and the girl gave great performances and it's what kept me watching
I turned it off bout 40 mins in last night cause I knew it was something gross involving the mum. Glad to see it wasn’t cannibalism, regurgitation is pretty grim 🤢🤢
May we not conclude that believing in God is wrong. Catholicism is a wrong one. This actually happens in real life: people fasting, doing penitence, etc. Why? Because of their belief. But the problem is, true God doesn't even command to do that.
I don’t think the film is intended as an indictment of Catholicism specifically but rather an exploration of how we define ourselves through stories. If it was set in modern day USA it may well have used Evangelical Christians to tell a similar story. The 19th century Irish setting is somewhat arbitrary given the global history of starving girls specifically and faith healing generally.
@@targetpractice2351 That's a good point. But, still, they used what they used and by that some people might think that believing in God is not really beneficial.
In short the film ask the viewers are you "in or out " of your stupid religious believes. If in, then come out and live your only life happily. Simple.
I lukewarmly gave it a like Netflix rating, now after seeing this video, I'll change it to a negative one. It makes spiritualism just stories people tell to hide pain. Good acting, cast and production though.
Isnt that what being religous/spiritual/alive all about: stories? Religion is told through texts and mantras, and so is general society and friendships (i.e. the news, social media, conversation).
I don’t see how this changes your view of the movie. Religion is a set of collective beliefs (that some choose to feel trapped by others saved or comforted by). Outside of religion we all tell ourselves stories which are also a set of beliefs. It’s supposed to provoke Independent thinking. We can release any beliefs that no longer serve us and open the door to our own cage.
Florence Pugh is so mesmerizing to me that I completely forgot about the opening and got sucked into the film. Whenever Kitty broke the fourth wall, it sent a chill down my spine, like, oh... right... you know I'm here.
I watched the film..what does that mean?Kitty broke the fourth wall?I must have missed something..
@@bananaorangekangaroo Kitty looks directly at the camera and speaks to the audience, that's what a 4th wall break is.
So true. Literally the first scene she draws you in. And her face somehow changes throughout the film. Can’t quite explain it
I freaked out at the bit where Kitty was digging and she looked right at the camera. This film was SO well done
The Wonder is a phenomenal film. We appreciate the breakdown of it down from the opening all the way to the end. It has its staggering complexities that can be tricky to decode.
I was so happy that the characters get a happy ending. IRL, a girl in a similar story just ended up starving and her parents were arrested for child neglect. I thought that Kitty's character was also a way of acknowleding that the story isn't going to go the way it went IRL so often times. At least a few of these girls ended up dying after not being able to eat under medical supervision. I'm also glad the film pointed out how the medical profiessionals were just as responsible for the death of the girls as the parents were. IRL only the parents were arrested.
No Catholic in there right mind would allow there child to die from starvation. The only saint who died from starvation was in 1352 Saint Catherine, and she was never encourage to fast to the point of malnutrition. She died because she couldn't swallow. My Great grandparents lost a few of there children because they were starved to death by the English Huns in Ireland.
No person in their right mind would let a child die. You say Catholic like they're special or better than other people
@@marksilva2929
Touch some grass
Florence is magical. A brilliant actor.
wonderful film with powerful acting and story telling, I feel it could have done without the 4th wall breaking. the director talks about using this to make you believe the film and the story but I feel it does the opposite. you watch a film to fall into that world and be wrapped up in story and atmosphere, the 4th wall breaking broke me out of the world and makes me remember it was all fake and tarnishes the solid quality of the rest of the film.
Yeah the I agree, the only two bad scenes of the entire film are the beginning set piece and that ending scene
Same here. It felt cringey tbh.
Maybe that is by design. The framing device is supposed to be jarring. You're supposed to dislike it and take you out of your immersion. So for every person who feels like you do, maybe it's an accomplishment for the film. It's not gonna win them a following or anything, but it does set the film apart.
You're not meant to like it. It's meant to disarm and make you uncomfortable
I agree that ruined it imo. I didn't like that at all
Lol needed this. I don’t understand the point of showing us the set and having a narrator
What if they are saying that belief is like this set.. when we are in it we believe that is our world but only when we see the whole picture we realise that belief is a powerful story we tell ourselves.
@@adorablegirl1559 ty
@@adorablegirl1559 I'm sorry that's your own interpretation. It had no impact on the movie at all. It acts like spoon-feeding your viewers a little further into explaining that this was a story and these were just characters.
@@fmkhan213 yes it's my own interpretation only. I guess that's the purpose of any movie that is layered to form your own opinions.
@@fmkhan213You’re wrong. @adorablegirl1559 is right. The narrator is trying to show us how harmful is it to be trapped inside harmful beliefs. Narrator is not there to spoon feed anything, she’s there to deliver that powerful message.
I know people have different opinions on the fourth wall, but for me it was a necessary part of the film. I interpreted it as a way for us to reconcile the terrible tragedies of real life and immortalize them. The horror of economic crises, unnecessary martyrdom, unreasoning and unyielding religious fanaticism, the destructive and smothering force of patriarchal institutes, represented in a board of powerful members who would rather let a young girl die than be embarrassed by the truth. What our collective human consciousness in later centuries wished could have been, a projection of the dream of saving a helpless child from senseless suffering in a world and time where so many died or starved, for reasons that weren't good enough to justify it. The real wonder that the film encapsulates is the message that miracles aren't enacted in sainthood, but the power of ordinary human love and compassion, made so transcendental as to supersede any need for evidence of God.
The ending is important to me because it hits you where the message is most important.
Those people in real life WEREN'T saved and we have to question the narratives and stories we tell ourselves that allow these terrible events to happen in the first place.
My take, anyway.
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yo, i think you need a lot of credit on this very descriptive writing, your opinion is well heard, and i highly appreciate the way you portray a different perspective than thinking like everyone else. Im doing a speech on this movie and its interesting philosophy, and your well written opinion of it has helped me greatly.
@@Minston..Nickbrick Thank you! This was a very special movie for me. My family grew up very religious and this movie helped me process a lot and was very much a healing experience for me.
Yes agree 100%
If the mother wanted her daughter to die in atonement for what happened to the girl's brother, then why was the mother secretly feeding the girl through goodnight kisses all those months, then suddenly decided to stop doing it after the nurse ordered no one get closer to the girl? The nurse later begs the mother to return feeding the girl mouth-to-mouth but the mother refused.
My sentiment exactly. I don’t really understand that part of the plot.
The whole family would have to admit that they lied if she came clean - it would ruin her reputation, and she might get into trouble for faking the whole thing. She basically pushed her daughter to begin starving herself. If the truth came out, she would have to tell people why Anna started the fast in the first place.
Not just that, she still holds Anna responsible for her brother's death. To let her die now would be to maintain the illusion of her having the divine power of not needing to eat, while also punishing her for her brother's death.
In the true story of the Welsh fasting girl, her parents let her die too. They didn't want to come clean even though they knew she was eating small amounts of food.
The mother believed that the brother is in hell and can only be released if Anna attones for their sin by fasting and repeating payers many times. Her daughters death wouldn't save her son. She wanted punishment for Anna or wished her dead instead of her son but she could never admit those feeling to herself. It would mean she is a bad christian and doomed as well. Desiring revenge is a great sin. So is suicide or encouraging it. The way it went she could still lie to herself that it was the girls decision or Gods will and that she is pure and moral.
The fame was putting food on the table. It was actually really common at the time for children, especially girls to starve when their family couldn’t afford food and act like it was a holy situation.
@@mrinalinibadrinarayanan2940 I like this explanation in that it really means it was just a grift from the start. Rather than seeing the son's death as divine punishment, maybe his death (e.g. suicide covered up?) was still somehow related to his unnatural relationship with his sister, which her mom blames her for. Once the nurse figures out how the daughter is being fed, the mother figures that while she can count on God to keep his mouth shut, her daughter might be unreliable, so she complies with the nurse's orders. Mother was right as the daughter does start revealing secrets.
Of course the problem with that idea is that it is not consistent with the thematic through line on belief, unless the mom's belief was about he believing she would enjoy being exposed as a fraud? 😅
This was an incredibly beautifully made film. I loved it.
The film would have been exactly the same without the fourth wall breaks, imo they had the opposite effect and just distracted from the plot
I actually disagree! I think the bird toy and 4th wall break are a great way to bring home the Matrix-y idea of stories vs reality/detachment
I disagree. The fourth wall break to convey a message about being sucked into harmful beliefs, that was ingenious.
I think the movie was absolutely spectacular, I hope we will get to see more productions like this from netflix
Heló there netflix bot😂😂😂😂
We each believe our own stories--it explains why one God is different from another, or some of us are atheists. Why some people cling to guns and hatred, and others can square things up no matter. A wonderful, thoughtful film with Florence Pugh acing yet another role.
Thank you! I was wondering so much about the drugs Florence's character uses. I guess it makes sense now, but why does she lick her own blood off her finger and only then it seems like the drugs are kicking in?? Is it just a "gorey" element to make the scene feel more uncomfortable/mysterious? Or does this little action have another meaning I don't see?
I looked it up after and all I could find is that the finger pricking is a ritual self harm, I think it’s just a coincidence the drugs hit when she licks the blood
Me too! I am still a bit confused on that part.
To me it’s like her own reminder that she’s still alive…. Kind of like “pinch me, am I dreaming?” As I take these drugs to remember/forget/ease the pain, let me prick myself and remember I’m still here.
Idk just my take lol I’d love to know the writer/directors explanation though!
It was morphine and it hits you pretty quick. You could buy morphine back then without a prescription. You can also accidently kill yourself. Take too much you're dead in seconds. I've had morphine for pain under medical supervision.
I think it’s just a form of self harm
thank you! watched this movie knowing nothing, left it knowing nothing
😂😂😂
great movie, good take on the flow and 4th wall and BTS moments. great opening and closing stating the obvious and connection with the past and the present.
OH the in and out makes so much sense now, it's really obvious but it flew over my head (like a bird haha)
Explain the in out , in out to me . TIA
@@kennyhicks4111 you choose your story, you decide if the cat is alive or dead, if the bird is in or out... in... out. you pull the strings of your life, so the bird can be in or out...
every character in this film pulled the strings, except the one who broke the 4th and spoke about it... at least that's what i feel like about it.
This was really good especially loved the ending Extremely good acting !
Ok this video was helpful because I needed to ensure what I assume to be what I believe in the story to be true (my version of the story) therefore exactly what the director's intention was. Well played! Great movie and amazing acting!.
This. The only one who’s actually got it 😃
I really enjoyed the movie and Florence Pugh is phenomenal
thank you! this is the only vid I can find that explains the drug that she's taking.
In the family portrait there is no kitty, only Anna and her brother, why ??
There is something so unsettling when the fourth wall is broken.
I thought the lady at the last scene was a grown up Nan.
When i heard about how she actually eat, my jaw just drop
So glad I opted to watch this instead of finishing the film.
Completely agree.
Great explanation.
Great movie! Shows the truth of what happens when reason is thrown away in favor of fanatical religion and blind science.
I didn't understand who that lady in black was supposed to be?
are you talking about the nun?
At the end? It’s the same actresses who plays Kitty with the family. She also looks into the camera at one point and introduces herself, it’s not clear to me why she’s the narrator character though
@@morgan1687 I think she’s chosen as she’s right on the edge of the story without being full involved
@@morgan1687 she was the only one who could read in the story because she read the newspaper aloud. She ia a storyteller within a story teller.
@@lentilneeds but how does she know about all the events she’s not there for? What’s her point of view? It’s like she’s only made the narrator to connect the 4th wall break to the rest of the film and to tell us the film is objective even if the rest of the film and her character don’t match it. No matter how I think about it I can’t see how her character makes sense as the narrator when the story isn’t accessible to her, showing her learning to read isn’t enough
I liked this film a lot. The story was interesting & I was transported in to the lives of all the characters. See it.
So mom could stuff enough calories in her mouth to sustain a teenage girl? That is stupid
It struck me that this film has a lot in common thematically with The Life of Pi. Both use an unusual framing device and present religion as a matter of choosing one’s own stories.
Don’t want to spoil Life of Pi but
SPOILER
It’s about choosing between a story that is a harsh and uncomfortable reality and one that is more colourful and comforting. The choice can be seen as a metaphor for choosing between the harsh reality of atheism which involves accepting mortality and the more comforting story of religion which promises eternal life.
Why did the mom sneak her food if she also encouraged the fast???
The fame was bringing travelers to the village and putting food on the table.
Because she was not stupid. She encouraged pretend-fasting for fame and money.
Although the mother wanted her daughter to cleanse for the sins of both children through fasting and prayer, she also still had an innate sense of protection. She’d convinced the daughter it wasn’t really eating.
Who is lector on this introduction?
"The fourth wall is a performance convention in which an invisible, imaginary wall separates actors from the audience. While the audience can see through this wall, the convention assumes the actors act as if they cannot. From the 16th century onward, the rise of illusionism in staging practices, which culminated in the realism and naturalism of the theatre of the 19th century, led to the development of the fourth wall concept.[1][2]" ~from Wikipedia.
When you have to explain it you know you've got it wrong. I would have cut them out, they weren't needed.
If every movie was edited based on the intelligence or perception skills of every single viewer it will reach, there would be like 5 minutes runtime left of most of them.
I agree. It’s so cringey and pretentious. The film would come out the same without the opening, breaking the fourth wall and closing scenes.
I thought this film was quite poor… although Florence’s performance was captivating that was about all the film had going for it.
My interpretation was the mother blaming and punishing Hannah for the death of her brother
Idk I kinda get why some people like this movie but I barely made it through. It was just boring as hell, Florence and the girl gave great performances and it's what kept me watching
Wonderful film
Thank you!!! I didn’t want to watch the movie, but almost did because I wanted to know how she was doing it. Then I came across this video!
Very good movie !
All about perception
Great Movie!
Great film but the opening, breaking the fourth wall and the ending are unnecessary imo.
In or out: I choose out
I really don't understand how people like this movie. The actors did a great job but the storyline was so Bad, my god I wish I never seen it.
I don't think the girl thought it was a holy gift , I think she thought starvation was a penitence or atonement.
There are no 2 sides of the story is only one , the ending to believe or not makes no sense..
She put it in william and got him to start a new family with a girl they kidnap🤦🏻♂️
I turned it off bout 40 mins in last night cause I knew it was something gross involving the mum. Glad to see it wasn’t cannibalism, regurgitation is pretty grim 🤢🤢
Oh grow up 🙄
The story is not for you, it requires a mature brain to understand the story.
@@flexaeterna lol I thought you replied to Me! Lol but RIGHT!
@@flexaeterna No, just don’t fancy watching anything disgusting. My choice 💋
@@EboniFlowers I would love too, but people keep making predictable programs 💋
I didnt believe the movie at all, but I enjoyed it.
what do u mean by not believing the movie?
What is there to believe?
The mother was feeding the daughter when she kissed her at night she spit food in her mouth , sorry for the spoiler
Bad boy
May we not conclude that believing in God is wrong.
Catholicism is a wrong one. This actually happens in real life: people fasting, doing penitence, etc. Why? Because of their belief. But the problem is, true God doesn't even command to do that.
So what's the right religion in your opinion?
@@yomer355 The true Church Of Christ.
@@jvg1418 what's that? Every Christian denomination considers itself "the true Church", I don't know what you're talking about.
I don’t think the film is intended as an indictment of Catholicism specifically but rather an exploration of how we define ourselves through stories.
If it was set in modern day USA it may well have used Evangelical Christians to tell a similar story.
The 19th century Irish setting is somewhat arbitrary given the global history of starving girls specifically and faith healing generally.
@@targetpractice2351 That's a good point. But, still, they used what they used and by that some people might think that believing in God is not really beneficial.
This was so slow, I turned it off.
This is so boring 😢
Pretentious
Great famine 🤣 don't you mean genocide?
this movie is heII. it was literally the worst movie ive ever seen in my entire life
In short the film ask the viewers are you "in or out " of your stupid religious believes. If in, then come out and live your only life happily. Simple.
I lukewarmly gave it a like Netflix rating, now after seeing this video, I'll change it to a negative one. It makes spiritualism just stories people tell to hide pain. Good acting, cast and production though.
The movie and what it was about just went right over your head.
Isnt that what being religous/spiritual/alive all about: stories? Religion is told through texts and mantras, and so is general society and friendships (i.e. the news, social media, conversation).
I don’t see how this changes your view of the movie. Religion is a set of collective beliefs (that some choose to feel trapped by others saved or comforted by). Outside of religion we all tell ourselves stories which are also a set of beliefs. It’s supposed to provoke Independent thinking. We can release any beliefs that no longer serve us and open the door to our own cage.
I agree Joe
I now claim first comment!
A bunch of BS, what a waste of time 🤦🏻♀️
This movie was loved by dumb women😢
When Netflix stops producing crap, maybe I'll subscribe again
oh no patsy!! what's this billion dollar company going to do without you?
you eat crap for breakfast
And yet you're here. 🤣
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