That's why having a number 1 pick back is so important next next year, replacing guys who price themselves out of the rotation. Like LBs walker and takitaki. Pretty soon interior OL and DBs will come up for transition.
I feel like this draft really set the table for a sign of growth from the office. In the first few years, I remember this idea that the browns were very strict in their guard rails around how they do drafts. And now looking at this past one, we see a lot of those tenets have been discarded. I think that's an indication that we're in win now mode, But also that they are capable as an office of admitting their failures. We have so many new high skill players and high heart players coming out of this draft. Thats new. Great vid.
I agree Q , who we sign, trade ,draft or release ..(football staff included, will definitely tell us everything we need to evaluate Berry's time as GM... Go Browns!
AB is a long term keeper for sure, given the talent he has brought in through trades, free agents, and draft picks. He gets blamed for the Watson trade but I really think that was a Hallam decision. Kevin will have to turn it up another notch. Best coach the Browns have had since they came back, but it has to keep getting better. Adding Dorsey and Schwartz were huge moves. Those guys will eventually move on to bigger jobs. He did stick with AVP and Joe Woods far too long.
AB has done a great job with the roster getting out in front of the market and signing players before the big money comes into play like Amari Cooper. The only blemish is Deshaun Watson and I think he can play but can he stay healthy?
@@anthonypa8045 pro bowls are such an incomplete argument. when you would take martin emerson, JOK, dawand jones, top 2 in their position in an all AFC north draft (the best division in football), you're doing a great job drafting, especially considering how few top 100 picks they've had
A lot of people in your comment section seem to have their BS agenda's. including myself. I'm continuity for continuity sake guy. Especially watching other teams in our division have success with it. Kevin and Andrew make my argument sound good. I can see now why I was wrong about other coaches and Gm's I argued to keep. These guys are component. The other guy's put the letters "I" "N' in component. (I do that with continence.) Now AB has all his guy's in the building. He has no excuses. He can no longer say it was the guy's before him that messed up the roster. He is the guy before him now. Somehow I feel better knowing that it's AB's guys in the building. The next man up thing works a lot better when it's your guy.
Throw Sashi in there. He helped accumulate those picks Dorsey was able to use. It’s all connected and inherited at some point. Now when AB has only guys he’s signed first or drafted, then it will be 100% on AB. But to get there he has to be given the time to do so.
That's irrelevant. Foundations don't win championships, and are not structures, ceilings and roofs. Slavery laid the foundation for the United States. That doesn't mean that it contributed to freedom. A foundation is merely a foundation.
He had four high picks in 2018 and despite his OC pounding the table for Josh Allen, he chose Baker. At the top of the second round he chose Austin Corbett.
AB has the right approach to being a GM. He is collaborative and honest with himself as far as being self critical. That means he will learn how to get better.
Lived through the 80’s when I became a fan as a little guy and didn’t understand football, the early-mid 90’s when they had minimal success but ownership and the GM situation was a nightmare regardless of having Bill… couldn’t give him the team he wanted anyway. Then came the expansion team, GMs that tried to call plays during games, lied, cheated, squandered careers… then sashi who was good but couldn’t hire a decent coach to save his life, Dorsey who was exciting for sure but in no way built anything sustainable (his entire track record is using up teams assets going for broke and not leaving much in the way of picks or cap), then we arrive here with AB. There’s no argument to be had. He’s the most even keeled, well spoken, financially savvy GM we’ve ever had since Paul Brown went to Cincinnati. (Again forgive me for not knowing all the nuances of the Sipe/ Kosar era… I was in Kindergarten) and frankly at this point it’s irrelevant anyway. Continuity for the sake of continuity is onlya positive when you have something good… which we do. Are there better ones out there? Maybe. Are they available? No. Should we keep grasping for some mythical unicorn at the risk of repeating the nightmare that was being a Browns fan from 99- 2019? Hell to the no! AB till he’s old and grey 🎉
@@Bailark Did you get your gold star? Do you have anything meaningful to say or are you just one of those worthless keyboard warriors that think they’re cute for nitpicking? Since the two quarterbacks are consecutive eras I chose to sum them up as one. The era of good browns football. Does that make you feel better? Gray and grey are both accepted spellings of the word or did you not bother to look it up? If you’re going to come at someone with your nose in the air at least be correct.
@@NickTheSheep1379 I get your...discomfort. And yes, "grey" has become somewhat idiomatic. Now, let's address your bitchy attitude. We are wallowing in idiocy. Communication is poor. Increasingly so. And since I studied English...a lot, I do make corrections where I know others won't, often because it is considered rude. But, therein lies the dilemma. If no one ever corrects the idiots, idiocy grows. As for myself, I can take correction. I served as an officer in the USMC after college, and I assure you, correction was given. Now, more specifically on your "cranky Jesus" 'tude, you came off a bit pedantic in your lecture about the Browns since the 80s...which seems a bit...oh, recent. And to lump two very different eras as one....Sipe and Kosar, well, kid, you asked for it. Now, my correction was gentle. I merely said that they are two. Take the correction. Grow up. History did not begin in the 1990s.
That's why having a number 1 pick back is so important next next year, replacing guys who price themselves out of the rotation. Like LBs walker and takitaki. Pretty soon interior OL and DBs will come up for transition.
I feel like this draft really set the table for a sign of growth from the office.
In the first few years, I remember this idea that the browns were very strict in their guard rails around how they do drafts. And now looking at this past one, we see a lot of those tenets have been discarded. I think that's an indication that we're in win now mode, But also that they are capable as an office of admitting their failures. We have so many new high skill players and high heart players coming out of this draft. Thats new.
Great vid.
Love these signings! We r cutting edge...best since paul brown. ...both of them.
I agree Q , who we sign, trade ,draft or release ..(football staff included, will definitely tell us everything we need to evaluate Berry's time as GM... Go Browns!
AB is a long term keeper for sure, given the talent he has brought in through trades, free agents, and draft picks. He gets blamed for the Watson trade but I really think that was a Hallam decision. Kevin will have to turn it up another notch. Best coach the Browns have had since they came back, but it has to keep getting better. Adding Dorsey and Schwartz were huge moves. Those guys will eventually move on to bigger jobs. He did stick with AVP and Joe Woods far too long.
AB has done a great job with the roster getting out in front of the market and signing players before the big money comes into play like Amari Cooper. The only blemish is Deshaun Watson and I think he can play but can he stay healthy?
I like the new studio set up. I've had a couple of desks that I stood at.
I would definitely agree it's good that I'm not the GM.
AB has shown that he can build a team but his drafts need to improve.
where do y’all get he’s a bad drafter from 😭😭
@@anthonypa8045 pro bowls are such an incomplete argument. when you would take martin emerson, JOK, dawand jones, top 2 in their position in an all AFC north draft (the best division in football), you're doing a great job drafting, especially considering how few top 100 picks they've had
Right now 8 picks next year, might get some compensatory picks as well.
A lot of people in your comment section seem to have their BS agenda's. including myself. I'm continuity for continuity sake guy. Especially watching other teams in our division have success with it. Kevin and Andrew make my argument sound good. I can see now why I was wrong about other coaches and Gm's I argued to keep. These guys are component. The other guy's put the letters "I" "N' in component. (I do that with continence.) Now AB has all his guy's in the building. He has no excuses. He can no longer say it was the guy's before him that messed up the roster. He is the guy before him now. Somehow I feel better knowing that it's AB's guys in the building. The next man up thing works a lot better when it's your guy.
Extend Amari asap, why is it taking so long to do so?, Jeudy got extended and haven't proven anything
You be acting like GM John Dorsey didn't lay the foundation of player's for AB really
Both arguments can coexist
Throw Sashi in there. He helped accumulate those picks Dorsey was able to use.
It’s all connected and inherited at some point.
Now when AB has only guys he’s signed first or drafted, then it will be 100% on AB. But to get there he has to be given the time to do so.
That's irrelevant. Foundations don't win championships, and are not structures, ceilings and roofs. Slavery laid the foundation for the United States. That doesn't mean that it contributed to freedom. A foundation is merely a foundation.
He had four high picks in 2018 and despite his OC pounding the table for Josh Allen, he chose Baker. At the top of the second round he chose Austin Corbett.
Only 2 of Dorsey's 16 picks are still with the team.
1st
hey Q i like the new set. the lighter colors look really good
AB has the right approach to being a GM. He is collaborative and honest with himself as far as being self critical. That means he will learn how to get better.
Lived through the 80’s when I became a fan as a little guy and didn’t understand football, the early-mid 90’s when they had minimal success but ownership and the GM situation was a nightmare regardless of having Bill… couldn’t give him the team he wanted anyway. Then came the expansion team, GMs that tried to call plays during games, lied, cheated, squandered careers… then sashi who was good but couldn’t hire a decent coach to save his life, Dorsey who was exciting for sure but in no way built anything sustainable (his entire track record is using up teams assets going for broke and not leaving much in the way of picks or cap), then we arrive here with AB. There’s no argument to be had. He’s the most even keeled, well spoken, financially savvy GM we’ve ever had since Paul Brown went to Cincinnati. (Again forgive me for not knowing all the nuances of the Sipe/ Kosar era… I was in Kindergarten) and frankly at this point it’s irrelevant anyway. Continuity for the sake of continuity is onlya positive when you have something good… which we do. Are there better ones out there? Maybe. Are they available? No. Should we keep grasping for some mythical unicorn at the risk of repeating the nightmare that was being a Browns fan from 99- 2019? Hell to the no! AB till he’s old and grey 🎉
Sipe and Kosar are two separate eras. And, the color gray is spelled with an “A”.
@@Bailark Did you get your gold star? Do you have anything meaningful to say or are you just one of those worthless keyboard warriors that think they’re cute for nitpicking? Since the two quarterbacks are consecutive eras I chose to sum them up as one. The era of good browns football. Does that make you feel better? Gray and grey are both accepted spellings of the word or did you not bother to look it up? If you’re going to come at someone with your nose in the air at least be correct.
@@NickTheSheep1379 I get your...discomfort. And yes, "grey" has become somewhat idiomatic. Now, let's address your bitchy attitude.
We are wallowing in idiocy. Communication is poor. Increasingly so. And since I studied English...a lot, I do make corrections where I know others won't, often because it is considered rude. But, therein lies the dilemma. If no one ever corrects the idiots, idiocy grows. As for myself, I can take correction. I served as an officer in the USMC after college, and I assure you, correction was given.
Now, more specifically on your "cranky Jesus" 'tude, you came off a bit pedantic in your lecture about the Browns since the 80s...which seems a bit...oh, recent. And to lump two very different eras as one....Sipe and Kosar, well, kid, you asked for it. Now, my correction was gentle. I merely said that they are two. Take the correction. Grow up. History did not begin in the 1990s.
If browns can won’t a SB I’m getting an AB tattoo he goated fr
John Dorsey helped the Browns get to where they are but I think Andrew Berry has done a great job and I'm glad that he's the GM now.
Yeah,We gave away Zeitler for Oliver Vernon,Dorsey was killing it,oh then there was the Freddie Kitchens Hire
Yeah Dorsey was awesome!
All FACTS
Sorry be we don't need you to tell us what facts are Chief.