I use the preload/back/up method. I was told by a "coach" that was not the right way to get into a manual front wheel lift because I wasn't getting my butt back over the rear hub. With a short inseam I can only get back so far... so thanks Roxy for this video that gives me the mental freedom to keep using the technique that works for me.
Hi Butch, thank you for sharing your experience with us 😍 The same happened to me just the other day actually, that someone told me I MUST have both heels dropped, but with my short legs my rear heel keeps lifting. I thought i was wrong for years (and wasted lots of time) and can now finally get into a manual with ease, ever since I started to accept that people are different and that I need to listen to my body, not other peoples egos 😇😅
You just nailed it to the right point: 'there is not only one way to do things because we all are different! ' Most coaches do not have the eye or knowledge or like to work harder with their students individually.... but you do! And that is what differenciates an extraordinary from an ordinary coach. Thanks Roxy!
This is what puts your coaching above all the one-trick-ponies out there who claim there is only one way to do things. You must have highly successful students!
I always find it easier to think about how a movement should "feel" then to think about where which bodypart has to go. A manual for me feels like accelarting the bike infront of me... a bit like being on a sling and trying to get higher :) Hower I almost always start with a preload because it seems to reduce the required power to get on the backwheel :) Anyway... thanks for sharing your ideas :)
I admit that the l shape variations are what I would have considered the right way. Makes sense that they don't work for everyone. This opens my mind for the need for alternatives.
To overcome the fear of looping out, I practiced doing that on purpose, but unfortunately I couldn't jump off the bike due to a strong rear brake reflex. Oddly enough, I can bunny hop no problem. Well, today I finally reached the goal, yayyy! So much fun! I will update the comment as I progress, to motivate myself.
I like your way to se on the results, it can be different way to learn and perform som skills. To be a good coach/teacher you can understand that and find out what is the best way for the person you have in front of you. I really like your way to so on this issue Roxy
Roxy’s must be the first definitive and authoritative analysis of various manual initiations. I know now why i have been struggling all this time: i am trying to start manual with one or another form mixing up but never definitive. Each gets me close but not quite. I can focus on one and not mix them up. Much thanks
thanks for inspiring and eye opening tutorial wonder how many riders got unstuck from trying the L movement that simply does not work for them your point of individual (rider+bike) move to manual is 100% correct,
@@Roxybike_Ride.and.Inspire I found a helpful hint, when riding down the hill:: start with slowing down with a rear brake (I have just a rear brkae), release the brake immediately before initiating the manual it helps because the bike starts to accelerate when the brake is let off
I will be trying this today. I saw your comment about using the L movement without preload for tall people. I will try all But I may try that first. I really appreciate all your help. I look forward to having a coaching opportunity with you.
Roxy something you might like to address is E bikes I have any bike and that battery makes it difficult to lift that front end so I like the preload and I will try some of the other techniques as well
Hi Robert, agreed! Especially as a small rider. The techniques I share in this course: roxybike.podia.com/front-wheel-lifts-skills-course-learn-4-techniques-to-lift-the-front-wheel-of-your-mountain-bike will definitely work. I'm tiny and my ebike weighs 25 kg (not a good combo) - and I manage to perform them with my e-Bike using these drills. Thank you for adding!
Wish I could have seen you doing the different ways! I relate to seeing you in videos since I am 5'1"... there's just something inspiring when I can watch a woman vs. a dude haha :)
I know. But I chose Berni in this video deliberately - because you can hardly tell the difference between the 5 versions when I am doing it - because I’m so short. 😅 Plus - I can’t do the ones well without stomp. We short riders need the stomp. Taller riders don’t :-)
Roxy you have the best instruction out there! Can these techniques be used to manual over a drop at slow speeds? What about adding a power pedal stoke also?
Thank you, Floid. Yes, at slow speed up until a medium height. If you'd like to learn the individual front wheel lifts, when to use which and get structured, step by step drills, then do check out: roxybike.podia.com/front-wheel-lifts-skills-course-learn-4-techniques-to-lift-the-front-wheel-of-your-mountain-bike I go into specific details there.
Thanks Roxy. I suffer from shortlegitus. Your suggestions make a lot of sense. I keep thinking my medium bike is to slack and to big for me, but its probably just my poor technique.
It is totally true that we shortlegged riders have to work much harder to achieve many skills. Which is why we have special lessons dedicated at RLC (and on my German platform) to shorter riders and the struggles we face. If you want to test RLC for free, with this link you can try it out for free for one month. learn.ryanleech.com/roxy You can get there!
This video definitely needed to be made! There are too many bike videos out there that show you only one way to do things. How many other skills are there with multiple ways of doing them? 🤔 Great job!
I’d say there are several ways to do ANYTHING! Of course each technique has advantages and disadvantages- but there are usually several ways to achieve goals ☺️☺️ which is why we should be „stubborn“ in our goals, but flexible in our way there 😊😊
Thanks for showing that there is more than one way to do this. Do the methods involving a preload work as well when riding a hardtail or does the rebound after compressing the fork still contribute to lifting the front end?
Hi Dario, depends on their flexibility and strength. I’d recommend - try them out and if it’s not working, get a professional coach to avoid building up limiting habits :-)
Hi whisky, they will, but actually you do not need a sustained manual to get big and great bunny hops. I have a video coming about this, soon - AND I have a course coming white which I can guarantee that you’ll learn a great bunny hop 😊 Because we cracked the bunny hop code 🤓 If you’d like to start getting acquainted with drilling to skill - then check out www.roxybike-coaching.com and start my free Trackstand course. 😊😊 Happy new year!
Hi. Is number 4 useful if you do not want to lower your seat post? I mostly bike around my city and I have to go up the sidewalk sometimes to avoid obstacles. Thanks.
Hi Lester, for a side walk I’d recommend using a classic front wheel lift or at slow speeds a wheelie front wheel lift - both to be found in this tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/wvBrz99EaAc/v-deo.html
Thanks. I have a pannier rack in my bike's rear and it is quite a pain to remove it. Can I do the exercises including bunny hops without having to remove it?
Whenever I shift my weight back, my feet become unlevel and it feels like my back foot drops lower than the front one. Do you know how to fix this? Thanks:)
I sure do. There are several possible causes for this - I'd love to find out which is the reason for YOU. So: Let's work together to find what's causing it - roxybike.podia.com
Do you consider that bike quality affects the capability to develop MTB Skills? I have an old hardtail MTB from my cousin and I feel I am doing zero progress... I want to think there is a way to improve because I have no money for a better bike right now :(
Hi María, although some bikes CAN make it easier on us, you will be able to learn all techniqus on an old hardtail, too. It's more about the rider :-) Have you checked out learn.ryanleech.com/roxy ? With this link you will get one month coaching and all the exercises on RLC for free and you can test how learning in a structured fashion works - and all the drills can be completed with a hardtail, too :-)
It may seem so, but actually that’s not the case 🙂 For example: a shorter rider will not succeed by bringing his weight back (because the legs are too short) - unless he adds a crisp stomp and the acceleration of the bike forward in a specific fashion. And that’s what a professional Coach will help you with… Finding a specific solution that works for the specific rider. And not using a one-fits-all-instruction :-)
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I use the preload/back/up method. I was told by a "coach" that was not the right way to get into a manual front wheel lift because I wasn't getting my butt back over the rear hub. With a short inseam I can only get back so far... so thanks Roxy for this video that gives me the mental freedom to keep using the technique that works for me.
Hi Butch, thank you for sharing your experience with us 😍
The same happened to me just the other day actually, that someone told me I MUST have both heels dropped, but with my short legs my rear heel keeps lifting.
I thought i was wrong for years (and wasted lots of time) and can now finally get into a manual with ease, ever since I started to accept that people are different and that I need to listen to my body, not other peoples egos 😇😅
You just nailed it to the right point: 'there is not only one way to do things because we all are different! ' Most coaches do not have the eye or knowledge or like to work harder with their students individually.... but you do! And that is what differenciates an extraordinary from an ordinary coach. Thanks Roxy!
This is what puts your coaching above all the one-trick-ponies out there who claim there is only one way to do things. You must have highly successful students!
Thank you! I am very lucky to have really friendly and many returning clients 😍 And yes, all of them have made progress 😍
I always find it easier to think about how a movement should "feel" then to think about where which bodypart has to go. A manual for me feels like accelarting the bike infront of me... a bit like being on a sling and trying to get higher :) Hower I almost always start with a preload because it seems to reduce the required power to get on the backwheel :) Anyway... thanks for sharing your ideas :)
I admit that the l shape variations are what I would have considered the right way. Makes sense that they don't work for everyone. This opens my mind for the need for alternatives.
These is much helpful than othe How to Manual Videos in UA-cam!
Totally agree with what you said in 2:13.
To overcome the fear of looping out, I practiced doing that on purpose, but unfortunately I couldn't jump off the bike due to a strong rear brake reflex. Oddly enough, I can bunny hop no problem. Well, today I finally reached the goal, yayyy! So much fun! I will update the comment as I progress, to motivate myself.
Awesome, Marco!!
Best attempt: 8 meters, not even in a straight line 😅
@@marcovismara7746 Great Job 👏 Marco!
I like your way to se on the results, it can be different way to learn and perform som skills. To be a good coach/teacher you can understand that and find out what is the best way for the person you have in front of you. I really like your way to so on this issue Roxy
Thanks a lot, Mats! If you'd like me to find ways that work for YOU, then do check out www.roxybike-coaching.com
Thanks for being here!
Roxy
Roxy’s must be the first definitive and authoritative analysis of various manual initiations. I know now why i have been struggling all this time: i am trying to start manual with one or another form mixing up but never definitive. Each gets me close but not quite. I can focus on one and not mix them up. Much thanks
You are very welcome! Thanks for your comment!
Really good points, it's not a one size fits all per se. Commonality technique is great but it isn't working for some due to physical difference.
thanks for inspiring and eye opening tutorial
wonder how many riders got unstuck from trying the L movement that simply does not work for them
your point of individual (rider+bike) move to manual is 100% correct,
Thank you so much, Jon, for taking the time to comment 😍😍🙏
@@Roxybike_Ride.and.Inspire I found a helpful hint, when riding down the hill:: start with slowing down with a rear brake (I have just a rear brkae), release the brake immediately before initiating the manual
it helps because the bike starts to accelerate when the brake is let off
Roxy. I love coffee too. I also love ice cream and your humor about eating ice cream while track standing made me very happy
Hehe happy to hear 😅😇😍
I will be trying this today. I saw your comment about using the L movement without preload for tall people. I will try all
But I may try that first. I really appreciate all your help. I look forward to having a coaching opportunity with you.
Thank you so so so so so much for your lovely comment and your generous coffee support 😍 Let me know how it goes
Roxy something you might like to address is E bikes I have any bike and that battery makes it difficult to lift that front end so I like the preload and I will try some of the other techniques as well
Hi Robert, agreed! Especially as a small rider. The techniques I share in this course: roxybike.podia.com/front-wheel-lifts-skills-course-learn-4-techniques-to-lift-the-front-wheel-of-your-mountain-bike will definitely work.
I'm tiny and my ebike weighs 25 kg (not a good combo) - and I manage to perform them with my e-Bike using these drills.
Thank you for adding!
Wish I could have seen you doing the different ways! I relate to seeing you in videos since I am 5'1"... there's just something inspiring when I can watch a woman vs. a dude haha :)
I know. But I chose Berni in this video deliberately - because you can hardly tell the difference between the 5 versions when I am doing it - because I’m so short. 😅
Plus - I can’t do the ones well without stomp. We short riders need the stomp. Taller riders don’t :-)
Love to see Lapierre on YT. Nice videos! thx for your content.👏🏼
My lapierre ist the Best bike I’ve ever ridden ❤️😍
Thank you.. I will try some of the options
Do get back with what worked and if you want drills to the there easier and my personal feedback, check my coaching page 😊😊 have fun!
Roxy you have the best instruction out there! Can these techniques be used to manual over a drop at slow speeds? What about adding a power pedal stoke also?
Thank you, Floid. Yes, at slow speed up until a medium height. If you'd like to learn the individual front wheel lifts, when to use which and get structured, step by step drills, then do check out: roxybike.podia.com/front-wheel-lifts-skills-course-learn-4-techniques-to-lift-the-front-wheel-of-your-mountain-bike
I go into specific details there.
Thanks Roxy. I suffer from shortlegitus. Your suggestions make a lot of sense. I keep thinking my medium bike is to slack and to big for me, but its probably just my poor technique.
It is totally true that we shortlegged riders have to work much harder to achieve many skills. Which is why we have special lessons dedicated at RLC (and on my German platform) to shorter riders and the struggles we face. If you want to test RLC for free, with this link you can try it out for free for one month. learn.ryanleech.com/roxy
You can get there!
Thank you for sharing this!
Thanks for watching!
This video definitely needed to be made! There are too many bike videos out there that show you only one way to do things. How many other skills are there with multiple ways of doing them? 🤔 Great job!
I’d say there are several ways to do ANYTHING! Of course each technique has advantages and disadvantages- but there are usually several ways to achieve goals ☺️☺️ which is why we should be „stubborn“ in our goals, but flexible in our way there 😊😊
Thanks for showing that there is more than one way to do this. Do the methods involving a preload work as well when riding a hardtail or does the rebound after compressing the fork still contribute to lifting the front end?
Yes, they do, actually better - the motion just needs to be crisper :-)!
I'll try this way
Which one are you trying?
@@Roxybike_Ride.and.Inspire
Your teaching manual
Nice work...
Gonna have to try some of these out and see what happens... :D
Awesome. Do keep me posted!
Hi Roxy, what technique do you recommend for taller riders?
Hi Dario, depends on their flexibility and strength. I’d recommend - try them out and if it’s not working, get a professional coach to avoid building up limiting habits :-)
@@Roxybike_Ride.and.Inspire Thankyou!
@@dariomichelotto you’re very welcome!
Will these still work on dirt jumpers? I’m 5’1” and having a hell of a time to keep a sustained manual and to perform bigger better bunnyhops.
Hi whisky, they will, but actually you do not need a sustained manual to get big and great bunny hops.
I have a video coming about this, soon - AND I have a course coming white which I can guarantee that you’ll learn a great bunny hop 😊 Because we cracked the bunny hop code 🤓
If you’d like to start getting acquainted with drilling to skill - then check out www.roxybike-coaching.com and start my free Trackstand course. 😊😊
Happy new year!
Hi Roxy. Thank you for another great video.
I am 193cm tall. Is one of these techniques that is better for tall riders?
Probably you’ll find the L-movement without the preload the most efficient and easiest do “dose”.
Hi. Is number 4 useful if you do not want to lower your seat post? I mostly bike around my city and I have to go up the sidewalk sometimes to avoid obstacles. Thanks.
Hi Lester, for a side walk I’d recommend using a classic front wheel lift or at slow speeds a wheelie front wheel lift - both to be found in this tutorial: ua-cam.com/video/wvBrz99EaAc/v-deo.html
Thanks. I have a pannier rack in my bike's rear and it is quite a pain to remove it. Can I do the exercises including bunny hops without having to remove it?
@@crocopie yes, i think it will most probably limit your range of movement. But Try it out :-)
Whenever I shift my weight back, my feet become unlevel and it feels like my back foot drops lower than the front one. Do you know how to fix this? Thanks:)
I sure do. There are several possible causes for this - I'd love to find out which is the reason for YOU.
So: Let's work together to find what's causing it - roxybike.podia.com
Danke viel
Bitte sehr! Thanks for the lovely comment!
I am asian 163cm tall. Is one of these techniques that is better for short riders?
Absolutely- definitely one with the load and if you then accelerate the bike forward with the arms (and legs).
Do you consider that bike quality affects the capability to develop MTB Skills? I have an old hardtail MTB from my cousin and I feel I am doing zero progress... I want to think there is a way to improve because I have no money for a better bike right now :(
Hi María, although some bikes CAN make it easier on us, you will be able to learn all techniqus on an old hardtail, too. It's more about the rider :-) Have you checked out learn.ryanleech.com/roxy ? With this link you will get one month coaching and all the exercises on RLC for free and you can test how learning in a structured fashion works - and all the drills can be completed with a hardtail, too :-)
@@Roxybike_Ride.and.Inspire Thank you so much! I'm going to check it out!!
Actually there is only one way, move weight to the back and pull straight arms, how you achieve to get to those two elements is up to you. :D
It may seem so, but actually that’s not the case 🙂 For example:
a shorter rider will not succeed by bringing his weight back (because the legs are too short) - unless he adds a crisp stomp and the acceleration of the bike forward in a specific fashion.
And that’s what a professional Coach will help you with… Finding a specific solution that works for the specific rider. And not using a one-fits-all-instruction :-)