When her remix dropped for some reason people were calling it amazing even though it does nothing for the unit themself. I have a +5 Freyja and shes literally just drive bonus unit since she sucks at literally everything else. Whenever she was talked about they would continue to bring up that she is a galeforce unit, despite her weapon sucking at that and her hitting like a wet noodle. This remix isnt making her a great galeforcer unless shes getting slaying, hb effect and WAY more stats in her refine. This remix just kinda tells me she has no hope.
Wow I never realized how rough of a position Freyja is in currently. She really is at the mercy of the devs, and a "good" refine might not be enough. Hopefully, the devs don't do her dirty (come on InSys it's goat season). Also super based choice to put Area Zero's ost in the background! Much Love!
seeing the 10 heroes are destined for remixes youve got some content coverage. what would it take to make hel good? to me: remix: guard bearing 4 inevitable death2: inflicts -5 to all stats on foes in combat 3 spaces from unit and disables miracle effects in that range. base: slaying and iotes. legendary seliph style miracle, true adaptive damage and 5 to all stats during combat of unit greater than 25% hp. refine unit hp greater than 25% then +5 to all stats, builtin deepwounds and 20% def based true damage and damage reduction.
I'm so worried for this refine, I have the manuals to +8 her if I want but her B skill does not inspire confidence in the route IS plans to take. I actually do kind of like the idea of WoM in her weapon to let her be a follow up unit, because it would be flavorful to let her be a good partner to Nerthuz being an initiator. I guess if it's bad I'll have plenty of smoke fodder.
Here’s a thought- what if she buffed the enemy; like Omni +6 to nearest unit if 5 spaces and two around them? She then capitalizes on her B prf and can negate Robin. By no means is it fantastic and once Robin falls off it loses a lot of value but I think it would be unique
Yeah, ironically (cuz it's you), they need to look to Altina for inspiration if they want to make her great. Being an AR-O Mythic (thus not blessable) who wants to be an omnitank is already starting from behind. So yes, in order to be "good" her refine likely has to be slightly overloaded. It actually might be the case that it's a lost cause trying to balance her around AR-O, and they instead make her an SD unit. I've seen the likes of Nerthuz & especially Eitr pull off some nasty stuff as SD "godbeasts", so they could just make her adjacent to them. All your stuff in S+ would be fair and I could see (other than the Mythic blessing lol).
I've had a -ATK Freyja in my reserve barracks for like, 2 years. Never had a use for her. Honestly I'll probably just fodder her to give my Lucia Spd Smoke 4. Though if the refine is crazy good I'll consider keeping her around.
Both LSeliph and Freyja NEED a way to survive the first hit at the very least, I can see Seliph getting miracle which pairs nicely with the healing and Freyja getting dmg reduction based on speed. Sadly these guys are very likely to flop again because of being a cav tank, hopefully it's not the case.
I honestly think you're underselling Binding Necklace+. It doess go some way into fixing a lot of the consistency problems Freyja has in Light Season, and combined with a good refine, I think she'll make a perfectly serviceable combat mythic. Maybe not as good as Gotoh, but still fine. That being said, she does need an incredibly stacked refine to be good. Personally, I'd want Speed-based True Damage + Flat DR, a lot of bonus stats, special charges, and Discord. Forgot to add full NFU, maybe with bonus DR halving. EDIT: One last thing, but I kinda think that Freyja getting a more selfish Wings of Light effect. Oh crap, Oblivion beat me again!
Realistically i would expect freya refine to be similar to ny lethe and selkie, 2 beast units with dr weapons that got refines, they both got more stats (lethe +12 atk/spd and selkie a +12 all stat swing in her favor) and full nfu (and lethe got phantom spd but freya already got that in b slot) so i would think it wouldn't be worse then this. Any added effects i would they would give her are spd true damage because lethe has that (the inferior max 7 but still) and maybe special acceleration, at least 1 more effect on top of the stats
Tbf Binding Necklace + isn't too different from Light & Dark II which is regarded as a good enough prf to not change even for SS4. L&DII gives +5 to all stats, negates the foe's stat buffs and negates adaptive damage. BN+ gives what's essentially +6 to all stats, steals any stat buffs instead of just negating them and exchanges the anti adaptive damage for Phantom Speed 2, half Tempo and eliminating the requirements for transforming. Quite an upgrade. And being able to steal buffs will be useful relatively often due to Medeus giving the +6 Atk/Res buff so it's not as situational as one would think at first. I only wish that Binding Necklace+ was also able to steal visible effects such as Special Acceleration or Grand Strategy during combat, maybe even keeping them after combat to be able to steal stuff like Canto 1 and Bonus Doubler. As for the refine I hope she gets Spd based True DR and Scowl effect to be able to function with her low HP. Kinda like using B!Dimitri on Chaos season but with even more base DR.
Now, I know she wasn't the lead, but technically speaking there's precedent for Freyja having full DR piercing thanks to Spring Karla. Beyond that, trying to make her a galeforcer is a losing battle, yes, it's a more suitable archetype for the movement type, but realistically, her weapon would need such an overhaul to do it well, I don't think it could have enough effect slots, not to mention the obvious fact that Eitr would still easily be better at it. I think it's best to pray she gets the B!Dimitri treatment and gets few but REALLY meaningful effects for the role she was already trying to do, and for that purpose NFU + Bonus Stats + Flat DR/Damage are exactly what I expect, and if a single one is missing, it might be completely joever Oh and another reason why she SHOULDNT get a PP Refine, is because Arcane Nihility already acts as one anyways.
Hey don't be mean to our goat queen! I'm hopeful she's gonna get a really good refine! 😢💖 Also I wish she was a dark mythic instead of light that would have helped with her distant counter weapon great analysis btw so well made! :)
I feel like you’re getting less and less confident about your own points. In the first 4 minutes you ended a statement with “right?” at least 10 times.
I work 10 hours a day then try to write scripts and record and then edit. It's not a matter of confidence, it's more that when I'm exhausted I tend to use repetitive words. I do it all the time. Typically I edit it out as much as possible once I notice it
@@Oblivionknight I’m glad you replied! I really do mean this constructively. I enjoy your content, honestly. The godsword video you did earlier this week was great. And I look forward to these refine tier lists. And I especially look forward to the bigger tier lists, like the save armor one and the dancer one. I find them extremely useful. So I say this as a fan: when you get like this, it makes the video really hard for me to listen to. I get that that’s a me problem. If it’s hard for me, I can turn it off. No sweat off your back. And you don’t have to change or conform based on what I say, you don’t owe that to anyone. I’m just providing feedback. I do feel like your “right?” verbal tic is becoming more frequent. I feel like it might be a cultural thing, because I’ve noticed other creators using it more in the last few months, and I’ve even noticed *myself* doing it. If you’re writing scripts and not just outlines, maybe you could try to trust your script a bit more. My theory would be that you think reading your script comes off as unnatural so you have to add in a little more conversational improvisation. I would also say it wouldn’t hurt to slow down just a bit. Sometimes I have trouble catching particular words because you speak so fast. But again, I know that’s a me thing. If you like the rapid-fire delivery, tou do you king. I 1000% respect the grind and I love that you make these videos. I appreciate your sharing that you’re super busy and you’re exhausted and stuff slips by. I’d just been noticing a trend and it was starting to get to me and I thought you deserved to have the feedback so you can decide what to do with it. You clearly put a TON of research and thought into your videos, and I really respect your strategic mind. It’s invaluable to me as a Feh player. At the same time, I think your voice over execution has room to grow, which is exciting! My advice would be to trust your script, slow down and enunciate a bit more. But what do I know I’m just a random dude.
@@drewnolde2674 thanks for the feedback. I do think you're right and it's something I do try to avoid. I think the daily videos have probably made it a bit worse because I have less time to focus on each video
Well, she has a DC weapon, so I think it's safe to say she's not getting a good refine. I mean, she's a popular character, so she could get the Brave Dimitri treatment, but we'll see. Though I'm going to be honest, I greatly dislike Freyja, so I wouldn't shed a tear if she gets screwed over by IS. As a side note, the fact that Area Zero's theme still gives me an uneasy feeling shows how good the music and concept of Area Zero is. Just wish Scarlet and Violet weren't rushed.
On the bright side even if her refine is terrible she will now have a lot of valuable as a mythic. For that speed smoke 4 fodder.
true
Me wondering why ppl consider her bad
_Built in distant counter show up_
Ahh makes sense
Bro im more worried about L Seliph😅
When her remix dropped for some reason people were calling it amazing even though it does nothing for the unit themself. I have a +5 Freyja and shes literally just drive bonus unit since she sucks at literally everything else. Whenever she was talked about they would continue to bring up that she is a galeforce unit, despite her weapon sucking at that and her hitting like a wet noodle. This remix isnt making her a great galeforcer unless shes getting slaying, hb effect and WAY more stats in her refine. This remix just kinda tells me she has no hope.
Wow I never realized how rough of a position Freyja is in currently. She really is at the mercy of the devs, and a "good" refine might not be enough. Hopefully, the devs don't do her dirty (come on InSys it's goat season).
Also super based choice to put Area Zero's ost in the background! Much Love!
It's so good! Love that ost
seeing the 10 heroes are destined for remixes youve got some content coverage.
what would it take to make hel good?
to me:
remix: guard bearing 4
inevitable death2: inflicts -5 to all stats on foes in combat 3 spaces from unit and disables miracle effects in that range.
base: slaying and iotes. legendary seliph style miracle, true adaptive damage and 5 to all stats during combat of unit greater than 25% hp.
refine unit hp greater than 25% then +5 to all stats, builtin deepwounds and 20% def based true damage and damage reduction.
The amount of help Freyja needs to work in AR-O is insane. She needs a lot of good effects in the refine.
Ya, the other problem is cavalry are such limited on skill inheritance. They really need to release a beast special that can help them out
i hope that she gets canto, she needs that thing because B slot is blocked and C slot got something really nice.
I'm so worried for this refine, I have the manuals to +8 her if I want but her B skill does not inspire confidence in the route IS plans to take. I actually do kind of like the idea of WoM in her weapon to let her be a follow up unit, because it would be flavorful to let her be a good partner to Nerthuz being an initiator.
I guess if it's bad I'll have plenty of smoke fodder.
Here’s a thought- what if she buffed the enemy; like Omni +6 to nearest unit if 5 spaces and two around them? She then capitalizes on her B prf and can negate Robin. By no means is it fantastic and once Robin falls off it loses a lot of value but I think it would be unique
That's an interesting idea
@@OblivionknightI don’t think it’s a fix but it gives her something unique. Add more dr and another effect and I think it’s a decent refine
Yeah, ironically (cuz it's you), they need to look to Altina for inspiration if they want to make her great. Being an AR-O Mythic (thus not blessable) who wants to be an omnitank is already starting from behind. So yes, in order to be "good" her refine likely has to be slightly overloaded.
It actually might be the case that it's a lost cause trying to balance her around AR-O, and they instead make her an SD unit. I've seen the likes of Nerthuz & especially Eitr pull off some nasty stuff as SD "godbeasts", so they could just make her adjacent to them. All your stuff in S+ would be fair and I could see (other than the Mythic blessing lol).
I've had a -ATK Freyja in my reserve barracks for like, 2 years. Never had a use for her. Honestly I'll probably just fodder her to give my Lucia Spd Smoke 4. Though if the refine is crazy good I'll consider keeping her around.
If I get any extra Freyjas, I'll probably do something similar
Both LSeliph and Freyja NEED a way to survive the first hit at the very least, I can see Seliph getting miracle which pairs nicely with the healing and Freyja getting dmg reduction based on speed.
Sadly these guys are very likely to flop again because of being a cav tank, hopefully it's not the case.
I use her so much that I didn't even remember most of the effects she has in her weapon, and totally forgot she had DC 😬
I honestly think you're underselling Binding Necklace+. It doess go some way into fixing a lot of the consistency problems Freyja has in Light Season, and combined with a good refine, I think she'll make a perfectly serviceable combat mythic. Maybe not as good as Gotoh, but still fine.
That being said, she does need an incredibly stacked refine to be good. Personally, I'd want Speed-based True Damage + Flat DR, a lot of bonus stats, special charges, and Discord.
Forgot to add full NFU, maybe with bonus DR halving.
EDIT: One last thing, but I kinda think that Freyja getting a more selfish Wings of Light effect.
Oh crap, Oblivion beat me again!
Realistically i would expect freya refine to be similar to ny lethe and selkie, 2 beast units with dr weapons that got refines, they both got more stats (lethe +12 atk/spd and selkie a +12 all stat swing in her favor) and full nfu (and lethe got phantom spd but freya already got that in b slot) so i would think it wouldn't be worse then this.
Any added effects i would they would give her are spd true damage because lethe has that (the inferior max 7 but still) and maybe special acceleration, at least 1 more effect on top of the stats
Ya, I could definitely see that
Tbf Binding Necklace + isn't too different from Light & Dark II which is regarded as a good enough prf to not change even for SS4.
L&DII gives +5 to all stats, negates the foe's stat buffs and negates adaptive damage.
BN+ gives what's essentially +6 to all stats, steals any stat buffs instead of just negating them and exchanges the anti adaptive damage for Phantom Speed 2, half Tempo and eliminating the requirements for transforming. Quite an upgrade.
And being able to steal buffs will be useful relatively often due to Medeus giving the +6 Atk/Res buff so it's not as situational as one would think at first. I only wish that Binding Necklace+ was also able to steal visible effects such as Special Acceleration or Grand Strategy during combat, maybe even keeping them after combat to be able to steal stuff like Canto 1 and Bonus Doubler.
As for the refine I hope she gets Spd based True DR and Scowl effect to be able to function with her low HP. Kinda like using B!Dimitri on Chaos season but with even more base DR.
Now, I know she wasn't the lead, but technically speaking there's precedent for Freyja having full DR piercing thanks to Spring Karla.
Beyond that, trying to make her a galeforcer is a losing battle, yes, it's a more suitable archetype for the movement type, but realistically, her weapon would need such an overhaul to do it well, I don't think it could have enough effect slots, not to mention the obvious fact that Eitr would still easily be better at it.
I think it's best to pray she gets the B!Dimitri treatment and gets few but REALLY meaningful effects for the role she was already trying to do, and for that purpose
NFU + Bonus Stats + Flat DR/Damage are exactly what I expect, and if a single one is missing, it might be completely joever
Oh and another reason why she SHOULDNT get a PP Refine, is because Arcane Nihility already acts as one anyways.
Hey don't be mean to our goat queen! I'm hopeful she's gonna get a really good refine! 😢💖
Also I wish she was a dark mythic instead of light that would have helped with her distant counter weapon great analysis btw so well made! :)
I'm telling you her weapon refine is about to give her 99% damage reduction when transformed
Remember how yune got 107% Dr 😂
@@Theblaziken2000 I've seen Yune survive Deadeyes from Duo Chrom, anything is possible 💀
@@ilikestamps2978 where? Her DR is pierceable I thought...
@Theblaziken2000 I think it was a Zeshado video. Listen this is like a year ago lol, but regardless I remember her surviving combat against duo chrom
@@ilikestamps2978 OH! I remember now, it was astra I'm pretty sure but yeah it was crazy nonetheless.
Worse than Sothis? I don't know about that but let's see haha
What about a wom smoke
The best thing they should do with her is just to delete the DC in her weapon and instead put something else in.
Oh god she’s gonna be dog water NOOOOO!!!
Honestly she's in such a bad position that they need to make her an insane offensive mythic to be usable
I feel like you’re getting less and less confident about your own points. In the first 4 minutes you ended a statement with “right?” at least 10 times.
I work 10 hours a day then try to write scripts and record and then edit. It's not a matter of confidence, it's more that when I'm exhausted I tend to use repetitive words. I do it all the time. Typically I edit it out as much as possible once I notice it
@@Oblivionknight I’m glad you replied! I really do mean this constructively. I enjoy your content, honestly. The godsword video you did earlier this week was great. And I look forward to these refine tier lists. And I especially look forward to the bigger tier lists, like the save armor one and the dancer one. I find them extremely useful.
So I say this as a fan: when you get like this, it makes the video really hard for me to listen to. I get that that’s a me problem. If it’s hard for me, I can turn it off. No sweat off your back. And you don’t have to change or conform based on what I say, you don’t owe that to anyone. I’m just providing feedback.
I do feel like your “right?” verbal tic is becoming more frequent. I feel like it might be a cultural thing, because I’ve noticed other creators using it more in the last few months, and I’ve even noticed *myself* doing it.
If you’re writing scripts and not just outlines, maybe you could try to trust your script a bit more. My theory would be that you think reading your script comes off as unnatural so you have to add in a little more conversational improvisation. I would also say it wouldn’t hurt to slow down just a bit. Sometimes I have trouble catching particular words because you speak so fast. But again, I know that’s a me thing. If you like the rapid-fire delivery, tou do you king.
I 1000% respect the grind and I love that you make these videos. I appreciate your sharing that you’re super busy and you’re exhausted and stuff slips by. I’d just been noticing a trend and it was starting to get to me and I thought you deserved to have the feedback so you can decide what to do with it. You clearly put a TON of research and thought into your videos, and I really respect your strategic mind. It’s invaluable to me as a Feh player. At the same time, I think your voice over execution has room to grow, which is exciting!
My advice would be to trust your script, slow down and enunciate a bit more. But what do I know I’m just a random dude.
@@drewnolde2674 thanks for the feedback. I do think you're right and it's something I do try to avoid. I think the daily videos have probably made it a bit worse because I have less time to focus on each video
Well, she has a DC weapon, so I think it's safe to say she's not getting a good refine. I mean, she's a popular character, so she could get the Brave Dimitri treatment, but we'll see. Though I'm going to be honest, I greatly dislike Freyja, so I wouldn't shed a tear if she gets screwed over by IS.
As a side note, the fact that Area Zero's theme still gives me an uneasy feeling shows how good the music and concept of Area Zero is. Just wish Scarlet and Violet weren't rushed.
The pokemon ost is so good
Tbh just get rid of the DC for something else.