Gavin's Logan 11" x 36" Metal Lathe
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- Опубліковано 11 чер 2018
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Logan metal lathes are great machines, but are much less known compared to other "old-school" USA-made lathes such as "South Bend" machines. In this video I give a walkthrough of my 1955-built Logan model 1922 metal lathe.
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I have a Logan model 1917. It was made in 1957. It does everything I need it to do.
Best investment ever.
Picked up a 1954 11 x 36 Logan a month ago,, love it,,, have 6 atlas lathes I've restored to resell,, there no near the lathe that Logan is,, even a step above Southbend so much quieter then bend,, Logan has parts but you have to be ready to pay up for them for sure..
I started as a turner in 1964 my first machine was a ward7, I left the company after a year and went to another where again I was turning, I have used all the parts you have shown. I moved from the lathe line to the maintainence department where we serviced and repaired all types of machines, I have also seen my fair share of accidents. Safety became a big thing no loose clothing including neck ties( you don’t see them in the machine shop now) no watches or rings. I still like what you have shown. Good stuff.
Hi Gavin. Thanks for the video...I own a Logan lathe myself - lovely machine!
You mentioned that it cannot turn metric thread but I have turned many metric threads successfully with my logan. All I did was dividing 25.4 (1inch) by the pitch size in metric for example 1.5mm. That will give me for this example 16.9333. Then select the threads per inch on the lathe that is closest to this number. In the end it will be out by a fraction of a millimetre over an inch. I've found this works brilliantly and enables me to turn both metric and imperial threads successfully.. Cheers!
Good trick!
I've had 1954 11" Logan for about 25 yrs. Great little machines.
I just picked one of these lathes up. I’m now to actual machining, but can’t wait to break it in. Glad to see it’s a good machine. Thanks for the video!!
I hope you are having fun with the Logan!
Great video Gavin. Thanks for sharing some insights into the lathe, and it's versatility.
Thanks!
Great video, thanks for posting. Nicely done, you have some nice additions to the lathe. Really liked the idea of milling the top of the tail stock with a flat. The model 922 is the earlier version of the 1922 you have is very similar and is currently in "restoration" process in my g-rage. This is a great sturdy well made lathe for home or even light commercial duty. The beds are not hardened (usually) so if looking at a used one put a dial on the tail stock and measure the ways the carriage rides on for wear by sliding it along the bed. The tail stock ways are not usually worn.
As a little tip, when parting off, if a center hole is available, use a small dowel, drill rod, or similar, to support the part from inside the bore when parting, Bare skin is asking for it.
Logans are great old lathes. I have a 1946 Model 200 (10x24) that I picked up from a retired machinist almost two years ago. Currently have it set up with an electronic leadscrew of my own design, with a touch screen interface, controlled by an Arduino Mega. Makes all types of threads trivial, and it's really nice to be able to change the feed rate on the fly.
Wow- I'd love to see a write-up on that project!
I did a short video before I installed it on the lathe, at ua-cam.com/video/fLjJsTR2b5o/v-deo.html. I hope to do one with everything installed and running soon. It has been an interesting, and fun, project so far. Not having a gearbox actually makes it much easier.
I just bought a logan 1810. Need some parts for the quick change gearbox but otherwise fully functional. I met scott the grandson of logan lathes. The shop is just 25 minutes from my house. Super nice and super helpful.
I appreciate all of your comments and notes. Love the organization and efficiency that goes with it.
Just got a Logan 200 ...first lathe, can't wait to learn how to use it!
One thing that frustrates me is reading the forums and which lathe is best or which mill is the this. That drives me nuts. What people do not take into concideration is that they are valueable if they learn to maximise themselves with what they have access to. You do not mention this at all, but your actions and you demonstration of where and why your tooling is where it is is a clear indication that you have become proficient with what you have. Nice video. I know you are on the hobby level with this machine, but you do in fact maximise it very well.
I have a Logan model 917 11x36 sold new June 1949. I have the receipt that was sent from Logan. I’m not a machinist just a 70 year old mechanic and I love playing with this machine. I’m trying to make some parts for my Craftsman 12x36 I think the vintage is about 1967. And my next project will be to restore a 16x30 Bradford lathe about 1924 vintage.
Awesome setup! I'd love to have a lathe of my own. At 10:40 your stock was pushing into the collet, up the clamp pressure on that bad boy.
hey Gavin, I just purchased a Logan 955 , it needs some repair , but I'm looking forward to making chips, thanks for your videos
I have a model 1957 left by my late brother-in-law. It needs quite a bit of love; badly in need of being deep cleaned and removal of surface rust. But, I'm looking forward to putting it to use.
Good deal! Great lathes!!!
nice, bee watching your reloading videos and just noticed this video, i have a Logan 820 located in New Zealand
Great lathe! I am picking up a 2525-VLH this week for home. I build rifles on a Haas TL-1.
I inherited a '59 Model 1957 (11" x 36" Pedestal Cabinet Model) from my late Brother-in-Law. Looking forward to using it.
Awesome, I'm sure you'll have fun with it. Great machines.
That is amazing. My uncle was a machinist. The ship he was on in the Navy broke down. He machined a part to get it up and running again.
Awesome- taking care of business on the high seas! :)
gavintoobe
Yep, the ship Commander sent a letter to my Grandfather thanking him for his son.
@@electroniccheeks US Navy ships were fitted with American Tool Works "High Duty" lathes. Obviously, like Logans, American made. When comparing older American made lathes to much newer production lathes, do not make the mistake of thinking that maximum swing diameter which more recently produced lathes use to identify their products is the same. I'm restoring an ATW "High Duty" which they called a 14" lathe and has that cast into the headstock which can actually swing about 16". They delivered more than promised. But it weighs almost 3X as much as my similarly nominally size rated Taiwan lathe. For most maintenance parts, learn how to make your own replacement parts on your own lathe or a friend's lathe. If it's not quite right on your first try, you benefited from that learning experience so your next attempt is more likely to be satisfactory. Many, perhaps most US ships at high sea had replacement parts made in their tool rooms on these American made lathes. The most limiting factor is the machine operator's mental flexibility rather than any limit of the lathe they operate.
Great video thanks for sharing. Beautiful machine, I also have a Logan a 1942 model Logan 820, unfortunately it doesn’t have the collets and is probably a little small for gunsmithing, but it does what I need. I’m a Bladesmith / knifemaker and a shooter / reloader. Have long wanted to do some gunsmithing - it’s not easy to study or qualify here in South Africa unfortunately. I would love to get new machines like your Precision Matthews lathe / mill but those sort of machines are prohibitively expensive here is South Africa. Even the Dillon reloading gear is scary expensive here. Thanks again. Enjoy your video channel
Gavin you need a metal shaper or a vertical slotting machine to cut square corners for making falling block actions - a die filer for internal work and a keyseater for making bolt action rifle raceways!!!
Nice lathe, like the intro music too!
Thanks David!
Nice. I have an old Logan 11" Model 1957. Not sure of year made. It's an under-cabinet style with the recessed chip pan that can be used with liquid cooling.
Great video thank you
Thanks Lucas!
As always , I'm jealous of your set up.
Gavin like the way put your shop in a container from the door in the background. If so give a Review on it if possible..
What is the status of your Logan lathe? Know you upgraded so did you retire the Logan or sell it? You are my favorite machinist because you take a tremendous amount of time to explain why and what you are doing. You make your videos as if each one is a story. You are a very good story teller! Thank you for sharing.
Hi Robert- I did sell this one, and have Precision Matthews lathes now!
Thamks 👍 👍
Logan actuator is still selling parts for these lathes! store.lathe.com/
I have a logan . My dad removed it from the engine room machine shop of one of his tow boats and completely rebuit it over 6o years ago. I called logan in chicago to order a new belt , which is all it's ever had done other than lubricant. They said it was built in chicago in 1948. I told them, so was i. My sons get it next.
Hey Gavin, Would you please give me your opinion about the top 5 metal cutting oils or the top metal oils thats temperature insensative and water resistant (ie., either temperature [the most important] and water, or both)? Your opinion is very important to me...I can remember watching your videos moving that machine into your shop and before
Nice! I have a '61 Logan 2555VL (12" x 23" variable speed/L00 spindle) and love it.
Sweet setup. Nicely done video as well, like the mix audio beginning and end. When Drilling, what about oil? How do you keep cutting edges sharp: cutting bits, end Mills, drill bits Etc? Also are you self-taught or did you have formal training? Thanks for your efforts love your videos.
Thanks! I don't yet sharpen endmills, but I have a drill doctor for sharpening twist drills, etc.
I've had its older flat belt head stock Brother ,for forty years. Its always been a great lathe for me , the 5C collet lever system is the best . I had a Sheldon at one time but boat fever got me and well worse mistake selling it. It to made money with its lever collet and repeatability doing parts . Don't think ill sell my old baby even if I want another lathe.
Do you have recommendations for entry level mills/lathes? Perhaps a video what you've own/used and thoughts on them.
Sounds like a good video. What do you plan on doing, that will help me answer. :)
Extra nice. I have a South Bend Heavy 10. Your Logan is similar. Mine is a flat belt drive.
Nice! My first lathe was a South Bend model A 10" (10"x24") and I have my Grandpa's 1947 South Bend 9A belt-drive lathe. :)
The 1948 mdel I have has a flat leather belt .
Hello, I have a Logan 820 and according to the serial number it was built in 1945. I've been cleaning it up and replacing some damaged gears but I really haven't attempted to use it yet because of my lack of knowledge. Short of going to a trade school are there any videos out here that will teach me the basics? What I haven't figured out yet is how and when to use the back gears and bull gear with retainer. Any suggestions would be awesome. BTW - great video I will save if for future reference. Thank you.
I have the opportunity to buy a really clean Delta 11" lathe. I like machinery and I build a lot of things, but I know very little about lathes. This one is clean at a whistle with lots of parts. No taper attachment that I can find. It seems like a deal at $1000. Just wondering if I don't get into it if I can sell it one day. Is there a demand for these old Deltas in great shape?
Hi Gavin, a friend gave me a Logan Lathe but dismantled it without my presence. So, I am tasked with figuring everything out from scratch. Is there a manual available out there somewhere? I'll continue watching UA-cam videos as often as I can. Wish there were remedial classes in lathe operation. Then...find a mill! (Been reconditioning bench views). Thanks
what is ultra high precision? any lathe i have used can do 0.01mm just by the way you use it?? coolant is almost always better.
I was just thinking the same thing! I really don’t see the advantage to spending $10k on a lathe thats going to give you .0005 over what you already have. Especially when you have “The real gunsmith” not even indicating in a barrel just turning it concentrically in a precision chuck and a steady rest, then chambering it. Not even using a floating ream holder. Am i missing something? Don’t get me wrong Gavin i love your work and your channel! Absolutely awesome content thank you! Can you please explain what makes that more precise than the Logan?
Hi Gavin!
Just got a hold of a Logan 200 and looking forward to setting it up on my hobby shop. Complete newbie here!! Wondering if you could give me some pointers to where to get information and start learning more about it. Looking forward to your videos. Thanks.
Good deal! I would buy a copy of South Bend's "How to run a lathe" - and then watch my Lathe Fundamentals series (coming soon) !
@@Ultimatereloader Thank you so much for taking the time to do these videos and tutorials! On my way to ordering that book right now. Subscribed and will be looking out for your Lathe Fundamentals video!
Also, does your lathe and mill require three phase power? If yes, how hard was it to set up?
I have three machines that are larger that require 3-phase power, but the Loagan did not (sold it :( )
Bonsoir y a t'il une version française s'il vous plait merci
Nice lathe! I recently had to turn down a really nice Southbend that was roughly the same size, I just don’t have the space anymore for machinery. Do you have a Bridgeport as well?
I have a smaller knee mill- and should be getting a new Taiwanese Bridgeport style mill today or tomorrow! (9x49 table, belt drive variable speed head- very excited).
gavintoobe lucky dog! Some of us have to use a mill-drill but it does all I need for my jeeps and gun projects. Please make some videos of it too when you get it. I’ve got a Bridgeport clone I use at work and I tore it down and cleaned all the gunk leftover from the casting processes so it may not hurt to do the same to yours.
Love your channel.
Will do- what make/model Bridgeport clone did you get at work?
Very interesting video. Looks like you know what you’re doing. Any chance you are willing to sell the Logan?
Are the ways flame harden? Im looking at one in a basement he want 525.00. What do ya think?
Yes, I believe they are flame hardened. Around here, that would be an AMAZING deal. I sold the the lathe from this video fully tooled for $2600.
hi i own a logan lathe like yours i was wondering what is it worth it is pretty much complete i am considering selling it just wanted to see what you think they are worth??
It VERY much depends on where you're located. I sold this one for $2650 six months ago, and it was very nicely tooled. On the East Coast, I would expect prices to be lower....
Dude, your making me jealous
Awesome old lathe. but how are the ways? Any wear spots that can affect accuracy.
The ways are good- they do have some wear, but the lathe doesn't seem to suffer in the accuracy department. At the same time, I haven't gone in-depth to measure diameter variance over 12-24" cuts :).
man thats a buetiful tool i miss manual machining do you have a mill too
Craig, thanks! Yes, it's a great machine. Yes, I have a Taiwanese knee mill that I inherited from my Grandpa, and this week I'm taking delivery of a Precision Matthews Bridgeport-style mill (9x49): www.precisionmatthews.com/shop/pm-949ts-tv/ - I got the TV version, variable speed belt drive! Can't wait- stay tuned...
I can’t wait to see the Precision Matthews! I’ve been considering one myself.
It is supposed to arrive this week! I'll keep you posted, I'll be doing a lot of content with it.
What is a good price for a Logan like yours?
It's very much a factor of your location- here in Washington state, there's not a lot avaialble- especially with some of the tooling and options that this lathe has. I'd say- about $2500 is what this lathe is worth today in my area.
I had been in search for a lathe for very long time ,I was looking online and found one for $1500.00 I called and said I was interested in it , when I arrive to the home I started speaking with the Father he was the owner of the lathe ,but when I told him what I did for a living, let me stop beating around the bush he’s sold me a Logan 200 for $500, w/ collets and tools a 2nd chuck and torrent tail stock.
Are you keeping this lathe now that you've upgraded? :)
No, I sold it (didn't have space to keep it :( )
Damn... Wish I knew it was on the market. I would have driven over the hill to score that :( I hope it went to a good home.
I love your video. I got one identical 1955 built 1922, although not as nice.. It was a 'get it outof here' find...has some rust and missing parts like quick change gear box. If you have any parts -please contact me. Thanks!
Great machines! I just sold that Logan, so no more parts :( Have you visited the Logan Actuator site? They still sell parts! store.lathe.com/
South Bend!
I have my Grandpa's 1947 built South Bend 9A and still use it!
What are you getting for a precision lathe?
I'm getting the Precision Matthews PM1440-GT All-Taiwanese precision lathe: www.precisionmatthews.com/shop/pm-1440gt/ - very excited about it!
gavintoobe OK, I’m dying to ask then - why not a G0509G? I’m in the market as well (have spent a year waiting for a reasonable Monarch 10EE but will pull the trigger on an import soon. Can’t wait any more)
I decided that I wanted an all-Taiwanese machine with a short spindle and ultra-precision. The PM1440-GT is the best thing going in that category...
And I did look at the G0509G as well. :)
logan lathes boasted between 1 and two thou IR not half thou. i have rebuilt ... god??? maybe 20 of these, mostly 10 and 11s some wards too, but the only one I have seen with less than 2 thou it is mine which is 0 ir
I havea lathe output in 1955 Im from indonesia
I only subscribe to people that answer comments,
:-)
you bought a gear from logan??? wtf are you rich? i make my own or buy them on ebay
can contact me on my line
Hi Gavin...excellent video.. I have a 1920 Logan..love it so far.... I also have the collet closer but am unsure what parts i'm missing to make it all work. Can you send me your email so i can send you pics of what i have and then maybe you can tell what i need to make it complete. Thanks again Gavin