Lathe Fundamentals 101 Lathe Safety
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HERE IT IS EVERYONE! Lathe Fundamentals is officially underway, and I’m kicking it off with one of the most important topics, lathe safety! This series will span several years, and will be broken down into 100, 200, 300, and 400-level topics, each in a series. Please explore the navigation at the beginning and end of this article to learn more!
Lathes are dangerous machines, but you can do a lot to minimize risks if you follow some basic guidelines. I’ll go over these safety fundamentals in this video and article.
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I always had an interest in metal lathe and even CNC machines...worked with wood lathes in shop classes but that was many years ago!
Good stuff Gavin! Safety is Number One!
In the Army back in 1968, I took a 12 week VHF radio course. In the course, many of the personal safety habits were drummed into us in a way that the Army is very accomplished. In addition to the items you mentioned, rings, loose clothing, long sleeves, we also admonished to remove dog tags and any other neckwear, watches and everything with ANY metal content. Rules I live by to this day some 50 years later. Safety will ALWAYS make every job go better. When I was in the field, on a hilltop in a VHF radio van a man under my command actually got his dog tags caught on a power supply. Do not know if he ever worked in that career field again after his release from the hospital. Lessons are hard at times.
Best line in the video: "The chuck jaws could hurt you, kill you or break your window." Love it! Great video--I've been looking forward to this series since you mentioned it a few months back. Can't wait for more.
Gavin I'm a former machinist for Barrett rifles I've always been drawn to the lathe over the mill, great stuff.
Good deal Geoff! Glad to have you along for the experience. Love Barrett! :)
just ordered my PM932V mill yesterday... im super stoked to start crankin out some cool stuff. id like to see ya do more machine work as well. not safety related but 1 thing i can think of right now thats super handy, is a fractional to decimal conversion chart hanging close by for those oddball sizes. and dont blow dust/chips with air, super bad to breathe. shopvac works better. worked in brake shops when I was younger (back when we machined rotors and drums), and that was a subject of concern ALOT LOL
Thanks for taking on this series. Looking forward to more content!
Excellent!! I'm really looking forward to this series.
This is gonna be good. I can definitely use this series. Thanks Gavin👍😊
Ironbomb glad you are onboard!
Thank you for taking the time Gavin.
Love the channel.
You are welcome, thanks for watching!
Right on about the hair, from an old hippy. In the meantime, tuck in that t-shirt. Keep the wedding band, loose the watch. (If you are conflicted, get a silicone ring.)
After the foot brake, the most important control is the R-N-F lever at the top right of your panel. If you are doing anything with your chuck, it will be safer if this switch is in N (neutral.)
Where is your power shut off switch? In most shops, it's behind the gearbox. You can't get to it fast if a table blocks your way. Remember, it may not be your lathe that needs fast action.
I differ on chips: No hands, no gloved hands, no pliers! Chip hook only. You can make one out of drill rod. Heck, use a stick with a nail in the end of it.
I differ on sanding & filing. Work rotation should be reversed so if the work grabs your file, it pulls it away from you. Also, the foot speed you showed is way too high. This per the Machinery Manual.
No offense intended. You did say to comment.
i know I'm pretty off topic but do anyone know of a good place to watch new movies online?
@Kamryn Tony meh I watch on flixportal. you can find it thru google :P -conor
@Conor Christopher thank you, signed up and it seems to work :D I appreciate it!!
@Kamryn Tony happy to help =)
just getting into lathe work...found this very helpful...will watch 3 times, the clothing is important. I plan to do filing using flexible 10 inch long semi stiff boards used for nail care, will keep me away from moving parts...and keep part many inches out from chuck. Will have a specific outfit to wear, and of course I use full face protection, not eyes only. I may paint the outer parts of the jaws with yellow paint, like a plane propellor....easy to see. Good lighting a must, and your chair is key as well if sitting...must be secure. May add a kill switch as will be using a very old South Bend.
Fantastic video, I hope you are able to post more milling and lathe based content!
This was GREAT! Thanks for putting this together.
I"m new to machining. Looking forward to this series!!!!
Great video, looking for this topic and your presentation was excellent!
Awesome series I'm excited to learn more about lathe process
I know you're swamped but looking forward to more training on this lathe. I was looking at Grizzly then saw posts on PM and then your page. Good stuff here. Thanks!!!
ready for the next video in this series. Just bought a 1440GT
Looks like a nice newby series. I subbed immediately. Thanks for the video and take care.
I still remember being told by my 8th grade metal-shop teacher, not so much a safety tip but about lathes in general. He told us the lathe was the only tool you can use to make another one. You can't do that with any other tool; can't make a hammer from a hammer, a saw from a saw, and so on... Don;t know if it's really true but it sounded believable. lol Looking forward to the videos!
It's true, the lathe can make itself. :)
Lol how is a lathe going to make a bed way
@@chrisnixon2179 by turning it sideways and seeing the mill hidden within.
I've been waiting a LONG time for this video!!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH!
Awesome, you are welcome! I looked on UA-cam, and there isn't another comprehensive lathe safety video, so glad to do it!
Great production on "Safety First" Gavin. I myself as a Dr as well as an occassional machine operator, DO know you can purchase most any broken parts for most any power tool/replace it. NO spare fingers/hands/eyes, etc. This video worthy of keeping it as a Safety First reminder!!; Thanx & God Bless!!🙏
So true!
Amen
Who’s here because they saw the Russian lathe accident. Industrial lathes can turn you into spaghetti in seconds definitely dangerous machines
Me unfortunately, reminds me a story of a guy who lost his legs to a train, somehow survived but he described it as being dragged by a monster
And that's all I could think of with that video, industrial machine monster
No, try a 1950's video titled "safety and the supervisor"! that will make you REMEMBER these tips.
Great video. I got all paranoid after all those lathe accident videos
I think you need to go into the 'SANDING with emery'-segment (near 10:26) in greater depth. The dangers associated with NOT holding the sandpaper at its edges, not grabbing the bar directly w/sand paper, and NOT creating angles with the sandpaper of say, less than 90-degrees -- so as NOT to allow the sandpaper to bind up and suck your fingers into the rotation.
Great video Gavin 👍 looking forward to this series
Thanks!
This is going to be an awesome series!
Yes, I'm going to have a lot of fun with it!
Would love more in the lathe tutorial series!
I owned my own CNC machine/tool shop for 20+ years. There are 2 machines that have maimed or killed more careless operators over time. #1 is the simple drill press and #2 is the metal lathe! When you are operating either machine, never take them for granted! Great safety video Sir! Precision Mathews and Weiss machine tools are one and the same and are very high end Chinese tools. My Toolroom lathes were Japanese Victor 1440 and 1640 gap bed lathes which the Chinese Precision Mathews copied for their 1440 exactly. Don't get me wrong, The PM lathe is a beautifully made machine. It's NOT a Victor but good enough for the home machine shop. I own a WBL250F Weiss 10" x 30" bench Lathe for the "Onsie/Twosie" parts for my product line and it is a beautiful machine! I can hold .0001" tolerance on parts all day long. Amazing quality from the finest the Chinese have to offer. P.S.....Schars tool has the best aftermarket tooling on the market and the best prices for lathes and milling machines. Still very finely made Chinese stuff. Again, Fantastic safety Video!
Great .... looking forward to the series!
Awesome!
Great presentation. you could add: When filing on the lathe Always hold the handle with your left hand. Never place your hand on a rotating chuck to slow it down faster (lots of old lathes -Monarchs- used in schools don't have brakes. ) When stopping the spindle always make sure the clutch is in the slot. One of my students was hurt when he shut off the machine too quickly, then bumped the clutch handle with his thigh and the machine started back up! He had left the key in the chuck, and had his hand on the bed in line with the chuck. He lost a fingernail: Could have been much worse. When possible always use a safety spring-loaded chuck key. Never use a rag to wipe up chips. They could cut you if you wipe your hands on the rag. Always use a brush. Never allow long stringy chips to build up on the bed under the chuck. Always be aware of other when in the shop. Watch out for other students when using compressed air. Never touch a machine that you are not working on. NEVER touch two machines at the same time. One may be miswired, and with 3-phase you would never know it. We had a student get 220 across his heart. Was in the hspital from several days, but survived. Always check before cutting to make sure the tool will clear the cut at the end of carriage travel. Enough!
Know nothing about lathes, really great info. I noticed when using the emergency stop button the lathe comes to a slow stop, when using the foot brake it’s immediate.
Yes I have! I haven’t worked on any of this stuff for decades. Any suggestions for beginner lathe and where maybe to find a used one?
I was so excited at the thought of a series when I found this video but can’t find any others. Did it die or are they in a different playlist?
Still subscribed as I think I’ll like the other content as well though.
I will be watching every minute. I have been fascinated by metal working for quite a long time already.
If I ever win the powerball I am going to have a metal working shop so that I can design and make my own components, or parts or other things that I design.
Good deal, welcome!
I've never run a lathe , but as a child , my father owned a metal building fabrication yard. We had a Buffalo Forge iron worker that could punch 2 inch holes in 1 inch plate , the flywheels And gears were 6 foot in diameter. This machine was scary to be around when it was running. One day I'll get a lathe , but I'd like one of the older ones.
Great video!
You need to get those up on YT because my PM1440GT, TM1054, Standard Electric 12" grinder and B&S No. 2 going to be here in about five weeks! :)
TheKuskokid Good deal! Stay tuned!
Thanks man.good stuff here.
Thanks this was a great help for my assignment.
Glad it helped!
Good idea to add spring on the end of chuck key to prevent such error.
love your content bro
Thank you for watching!!!!
Maaan I want your lathe.. Yes, you mentioned no loose clothing. But since many people would find it naturally to wear gloves when working with tools, maybe you should especially mention NO GLOVES as well, just in case somebody does not think of those as loose clothing..
Looking forward to this series. I’m trying to decide between the 1440GT and the 1340GT. I have been in contact with PM about it, and looked at reveiws of each. I know you ultmiately chose the 1440GT, can you tell me which features pushed you that way? I’m also limited to single phase unless I go the rotary phase converter route, but I’m looking at upgrading to both a Haas tool room lathe and mill in the not to distant future so I my go that route eventually anyway. I should mention all of this is ultimately to fund my retirement plan (busy work not financial) of gunsmithing and home based FFL.
Darrell- I got the PM-1440GT because I wanted the capacity and rigidity of the larger machine. I've heard really good things about the PM-1340GT however, and hope to run one some day to try it out. I don't think you can go wrong either way, but if you're like me, you are usually glad you "got the bigger one". :)
I bought the 3Ø version of the PM1440GT. I'm not going to kid you it was a lot of work to set it up with a VFD but I am very happy with the finished product. This is the nicest lathe I have ever run. There is a lot of info on the Hobby-Machinist forum concerning both the lathes you mentioned. I'm happy I went with the larger lathe it is very adequate for anything I will ever need. The old adage of get the biggest and best you can afford is good advice in my opinion. YMMV
Gavin-please take off your watch along with your ring. Sorry, simple thing but as important as a ring! Everything else is spot-on!
Hi Gavin.
Matt here from country NSW Australia.
I'm really interested in getting started with a metal lathe / mill.... I'm a carpenter, and didn't even get a chance to do meatal work at school.
Specifically I want to make my own muzzle brakes, threaded items etc. Do you have any recommendations of where I should start? (are you sick of this question yet?? Lol)
Re the sand paper, good that you used a strip not a loop.
I think Gavin needs a "not to be operated by fuckwits" sticker from AVE 😉
Haha.
freshmen year at voc, dude left the key in the chuck. broke about 12 bones in his hand, wrist, and forearm. You could tell he was hurt, he didnt even blink, calmly walked out, oh yea, and his entire forearm having an extra joint was kinda a dead giveaway too.
Waw that's so sad hopefully he's doing good now
Seen enough accident videos where person got completely deglove by lathe and pulverized. Scary shit.
So are the 201 through 401 classes coming anytime soon?
do tight muscles shirts work well when working on a lathe
May I use this video in a community Makerspace project to show prospective turners.?
Were there ever any other videos in this "series"?
Waw who ever works on those machines are brave❤
Great video. But about half way through I kept scratching the left side of my screen to get that small hair off. Then I thought it was under the screen protector. Turned out to be a wire in the video! Just above the took box lid.
Hahahaha
is there something on a lathe that will prevent you from accidentally driving the tool holder into the chuck? auto shut off or similar?
i like this video
Where is the rest of the series?
Gavin, did PM give you a discount code for us? I'm in the market for a new lathe.
I'll see what I can do!
That would be great. I am also looking to buy the 1127VF-LB at the end of the week.
@@jeffgrivers8750 I just bought the 1440GT and the 835S mill, use BarZ2019 it gets you 5%
Mad Dawg awesome. Thanks so much man. Funny I saw their video and I was trying their code Barz2018 don’t know why I didn’t try changing the date.
I'm just here to learn how this thing works so I can understand how people die from these things. It makes no sense to me how they could spin around it and get torn to shreds. When you say "sorry to be a grouchy workshop teacher" I'm thinking goddamn right you better be. The horrifying videos I've seen warrant that. People getting sucked in and their limbs and guts flying everywhere.
Same
I hope you don't mind. I passed this video off to a beginner with a new PM 1340GT. Safety first.
So what new lathe should you buy if you live in europe?
Shipping and tariffs breaks the bank 😕.
That is a good question! What country? Can anyone else here help? (calling all Europeans :) )
@@Ultimatereloader With precision in mind is Taiwan the go to country.
There are some made in China/ approved by germans brands.
Like holzmann (Austria) , Optimum (Germany).
Thank you for a excellent channel.
watching this after I got showed a video of a Russian getting completely mauled by a lathe. to be safer than ever. also I think an important part is to never rush lathe work.
I know the simple solution is don't be stupid but is there no way to design the lathe so if human meat or hair gets in contact with part of the machine that it's not suppose to it stops? Like how some table saws have a mechanism that moves the blade if you accidentally touch it.
Do you not use Lathe Guards to ensure Extra Safety when working at the Lathe?? :)
ONE QUESTION PLEASE, WHY IS IT THAT NEARLY ALL VIDEOS SHOW THE COMPOUND SLIDE AROUND AT AN ANGLE....THAT IS WHAT IT IS FOR. HOWEVER PEOPLE USE IT FOR SCREW CUTTING FEED.
YOU HAVE IT COCKED AROUND ON A NORMAL OPP OF MACHINING.
WITH THIS " US" SET UP THERE IS LESS SURFACE AREA FOOT PRINT FOR THE TOOL POST AS A PORTION OF IT IS IN FRESH AIR....
REGARDS FROM THE UK.
It's set at 29 deg for threading, you guessed it.
@@Ultimatereloader So 28 seconds in you are just removing material not screw cutting.
I did my tool making apprenticeship in 1977 and as a rifle shooter/uk game keeper like your program. However the US have adopted the cross slide cocked around as a norm, which is fine but please don't think it is a world standard lol.....I am sure the lathe brought over on the Mayflower had the cross slide at 90...lol keep up the vids...
No hoodies, either. Pull strings can get your face sucked right into the lathe.
Good call, pay attention millienials! (haha)
You took off your ring, but didn't explain why. Why remove jewelry? What's the danger? I've always heard this "rule" by folks working with garage tools (table saw, etc.) but have never heard an explanation why.
Because jewelry can get caught in the machines and cause bad injury
Missed on guards
after seeing the russian lathe accident id never go near anything like this
That's exactly how I feel. That video terrified me
No loose jewelry *keeps watch on*
the number of times he mentioned chucks you'd think his name was sneed
You got that Jimmy Neutron haircut
That watch he's wearing. Is it a "Machine Safe, Break-Away" watch? Of course it isn't! NO WATCHES EITHER!
Never use sand paper one a lathe, partikels of that sand paper can screw your lathe.
After seeing the man vs lathe video was interested in seeing what not to do and not get spun into a thousand pieces.
Wheres 102?
with the sand/file operation one more tip, Back off the carriage, and tool!, so you don't get caught up with it!!
First shot wearing a watch and the t shirt is out the trouser. Never do that in a shop.
I thought this was a reloading channel.
mulekicker 1919 started that way! Now shooting, Gunsmithing, related metalwork and much more, buckle up!
gavintoobe ok I’ll be watching
Good deal, welcome!
After someone showed me something on the internet. I will NEVER use a lathe.....NEVER....
Good video, as I've made at least 3 of these mistakes already I should probably re-watch it. Blondihacks put it in the easiest terms I've ever seen safety phrased by. These machines are never not trying to actively kill you. Don't give them any chance, ever. I think the double negative helped drive it in to my brain.
one IMPORTANT safety rule, DONT work ALONE! if a buddy is watching you, he can help, not only lifting heavy things, but if you get injured, to ring the Ambulance and get the first aid kit!!!; also to bounce ideas, check measurements, so you always have a second opinion to be sure you approach a job safely.
RIP that russian worker 20.11.21
just came from the russian lathe incident
No lose clothes or long sleeve
No long hair
Know your safety control
No lose clothes or long sleeve
No long hair
Know your safety control
Read manual
Keep things in order or clean work place
No lose clothes or long sleeve
No long hair
Know your safety control
Read manual
Keep things in order or clean work place
Keep an eye on the chuck
No lose clothes or long sleeve
No long hair
Know your safety control
Read manual
Keep things in order or clean work place
Keep an eye on the chuck
Keep hands safe
Always wear ppe
No lose clothes or long sleeve
No long hair
Know your safety control
Read manual
my great great great gran-pappi has his arm torn clean off by a lathe. didn't evne bandage it until after his shift. you kids nowadays are soft.