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The Hybrid Shooter I am really looking forward for the comparison. I own the G85, in Germany it is the G81 and I am very pleased with the results I got from it. Having said that I need to admit, the G9 , the Alpha 7 III sure are tempting! Also the X-H1 is not bad, since Fuji lenses are really good.
Yes, the A7 III seem so be the perfect package for the majority of users at he moment, it is a shame that Sony is trying to rip-off EU customer with that pricing in comparison to US prices.
As a G85 owner I totally agree with your observations. I will be posting my year with my G85 at some point but you’ve covered the bases. There are several things I’d like to add. I want to do something with with this camera every day. It makes me happy. As opposed to my extensive Canon gear which never spoke to me my G85 is constantly yelling, “Play with me!” Yes the 4k is great but as you said the 1080 is just bloody brilliant. And let’s put things into context as to better or best. The dynamic range on most cameras now exceeds film. I can shoot broadcast quality work with the G85. I spent $75,000 on a betacam camera in 1991 for crying out loud. There is still nothing in the G85 price range that matches and that stupid Canon M50 is stillborn. And the best feature of the G85 for vlogging? It’s the audio limiter.
I actually got it for the 1080p quality. It's been amazing so far. Glad you mentioned it, it's so hard to find info about 1080p recording on most cameras now! They all mention that the 4k is either oversampled, or cropped, or uses pixel binning, but then if you want to know how the 1080p is, you're left in the dark. Let us know how the a7 III 1080p is ;) If it had a flip out screen I would get it, but damn I need that screen.
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I appreciate the thoughtful, long-term perspective. The G85 may hit the sweet spot for me, as it ticks the most boxes for my forthcoming filming needs.
Dropped my t3i and picked this up for video! Love it! I was DONE with Canon. Panasonic is actually a video camera, not a photographer camera that shoots video like Canon is.
I got my G85 a few weeks ago and I'm so happy with it. I came over from a Consumer Nikon D5300. The thing I wasn't expecting, and which really blew me away, was the sharpness of the G85. I have the 12-60mm kit lens and a 45-200mm f/4.0-5.6 Lumix G Vario lens. The main reason I switched to mirrorless was the smaller size and no longer having to deal with dust in the viewfinder. "And on the 8th day God gave us the EVF." lol Peter Paul Chato commented below that his G85 tells him to “Play with me!” I couldn't agree more. There are so many bells and whistles on the G85 that it will take me months to explore. One the easy features to grasp, and I truly love, is the "post focus" function where you can select what you want in focus. One of the reasons I purchased the G85 with the 12-60mm kit lens was The Hybrid Shooter's review of the camera. Now he's going to Sony!? lol That's cool as I know the Sony Mirroless System is very good. But the Sony A7 is $2000 and the G85 is now running at $800 American. So if you have the bucks go for the Sony, but if you don't take a strong look at the G7 and the G85's. You won't be sorry.
Thanks to your many video about it that I've watch, I made the step in December and got it. Pretty satisfy about it so far (just had a sensor replacement straight cause a default on it). Your objectivity in your video has let me know exactly what I could expect from it. But now you are tempting everybody with the G9 😆. Great work !!!
Hello! Thank you so much for the video, it really helped me to be more confused about what to purchase 😅 I am a Canon Rebel user but I need to update urgently my camera. I will use it primarily for photography, so the sensor size of the G85 concerns me in terms of pictures quality. What would you recommend for a intermediate level in terms of pictures quality, sharpness and definition, a Canon 80D, a Sony A6300 or the G85?? Thank you in advance!
For intermediate level it is suitable IMO. A6300 will have better image quality but the usability is not as good as with G85. G85 is a good choice overall IMO.
I just bought one now that the price has dropped. I think this is such a good camera, it could be my last DSLR. It is significantly better than the G7.
A a G7 user, I appreciate your thoughtful analysis. I just wish the used prices of the G85 would start to fall ;-( Thank you for the effort and the sharing. Thumbs up.
smalltalk - I’ve found used camera equipment only drops $100. I scooped up a LUMIX 100-300 used for $100 off. But for a camera body I don’t think I would take the risk unless I knew the seller.
I bought mine last March. I really wanted to love the Oly Em-5II- I was seduced by it's beauty and small size. But once I held one it was clear it was too small for me. I knew it wouldn't be long before I dropped it. I am happy with my choice as the G85 is easier to pick up and run with with clearer controls, better ergonomics and a much easier to navigate menu IMHO. It also helps that it's more advanced that the Em-5II being ½ generation newer. At $900 new for a weather-sealed body and very nice sealed kit lens it's a no-brainer for the beginning to intermediate photographer. Theres also the fact that you can buy excellent IS Panasonic lens without fear they will be obsolete when you upgrade.
Your videos are unbelievably sharp and clean looking. Do you have a video explaining what settings you use on the G85 and the editing software/uploading...etc?
I have explained some part of the process in this video ua-cam.com/video/TEUpu-emtlg/v-deo.html but I intend to make full tutorial on how to achieve the best export quality.
I shot a wedding last year using a g85 as second body. Ended up using it 80% of the time mainly because of the handling. The couple was super happy with the results!
Just Sold mine. I harder to use than my GH5 and harder to match. I only shoot video and use multiple cameras. The menus took more time to navigate and it felt less robust than the GH5. I bought the G85 when it came out and enjoyed using it until I received my Gh5. If you can afford the price upgrade and you need more from an M43 camera I would highly recommend the GH5. Also you'll still need a speed booster to get low light so keep that in mind when investing in this system.
I was toggling between the G85 and GH5 myself. As much as I'd like the GH5, I'm going G85. First and foremost is the cost difference. I can get the G85 kit for less than half the price of the GH5 body alone. Secondly, I took into consideration my final media outlet. I create videos of stuff like family vacations and outings that I downsize to 1080p and post to UA-cam and Vimeo because I have yet to be able to play a 4k video online having tried home DSL and T1 at work MULTIPLE times with zero success. I love the GH5's capacity to shoot 60fps 4k, but realistically I would shoot that less than 1% of the time. I typically shoot 24fps which is fine for panning landmarks and otherwise capturing my surroundings. Only once in a great while I would need 60fps to capture super fast action and/or something that I might want to slo-mo in post, but not enough to invest an additional $1200. I have my GoPro Hero6 if I absolutely need 4k 60fps. I do realize that there's a ton more to love about the GH5 than the 4k capabilities that I've way over simplified here, but for a video 'enthusiast' such as myself I simply could not justify the price. For what it's worth, I am jealous of you though - LOL!
I just bought the G80/85 and I'm loving it! Have you updated the camera to the latest firmware 1.3? And if you haven't, do you recommend we should? My firmware is currently 1.2 from the box
So I take that as a yes from you that you updated to 1.3? I trust your opinion so if you have updated then that gives me confidence, thanks for the reply.
I am fairly new to the world of photography. I purchased my G80 (uk) 6 months ago and I find it to be very user friendly. The controls are placed nicely. I also find most of my pics are great straight out of the camera so no need to edit. I will treat myself to a G9 before my trip to sri lanka end of this year. I enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work!
My first Mirror-less is going to be g85. I was dead set on the a6300 before I came across g85. Your videos provided the most significant deciding factor. Thank you for the excellent content you create. Any suggestions for the best time/online market place to buy g85? I am not in a terrible hurry, I can wait for a good deal. I will purchase it from US.
You're welcome, G85 is a very good choice, especially if you need front facing screen. Here is IMO very good deal including the 12-60mm lens, 128GB Extreme Pro card, extra batteries, charger, very good Rode Video Micro Mic and some other stuff for $999 amzn.to/2GTd3Bu
2023 says hello. It beat the E-M5 II for me, especially in handling and controls. Had two and the 12-60/3.5, kept one body only (with grip) but the used market is dipping so fast now I might need to sell ASAP to fund a G9 or E-M1 II upgrade within the next year, expecting both to drop below €500. I'm using Oly 25/1.8, 45/1.8, 14-150II/4 and adapted old glass sometimes. Also a beat up E-PL7 that just keeps going, might get the 12-32 and/or 17/1.8 for that. 16MP is perfectly fine for my needs exactly as stated in this video. I haven't used 4k photo (8MP) for kids, pets, school events yet, if that turns out great I'll just keep it forever, sort of. Haven't done any video yet either and don't mind 1080p for that. Curious about how it'll work as run-and-gun clip shooter as I don't have a decent editing computer and time for that anyway.
Thank you so much. Your video has helped me make my decision. However, is it still worth the price in 2022? I'm stuck between Canon T8i, Fujifilm Xt200 and this in my mind. Is there something else I should consider looking at? Please let me know your thoughts which I would hugely appreciate as I'm in a limbo with choosing one. It's my first camera buy.
Hi, Maybe you can help me out here? I am using the G80 with the 7-14 Panasonic lens a lot during my vlog interviews at tradeshows and exhibitions. Until now, the autofocus of this camera is hunting very much and it seems that when I change my settings, autofocus does not work properly. Most of the time the person that I interview should be in focus as well as myself and..... not the people behind us if you know what I mean. Do you have any suggestions on the settings for this camera?
Upgraded from g7 to G80 (€460 body new), great camera and additions to the old one. The only thing I don't like is a missing focus point thumbstick.. If I want to use it with closed display (to prevent scratches and battery drain) using only evf I have to enable buttons to do it, but I lose the most common functions. Also a bit slippery the sd card opening slot. I like the ibis (a bit noisy) but it works fine and new shutter even mechanical is one of the most quiet on the market. 👍 You have also pal/ntsc format from factory 25/30 50/60p.. With g7 u need an hotkey reset to change from pal to ntsc. Did you measure how much battery drain with always ibis enabled? Thanks
I bought the G80 for shooting video, but then got an a6500, mainly because of the hugely better autofocus. Still have the G80 but hardly ever use it. If you don't need the autofocus it is extremely good value and the Sony is more expensive, but I find it a more appealing camera in almost every way. Incidentally, why do some of your shots have a severe cyan tinge. It looks very odd, particularly as it is inconsistent. I notice that some people adopt a cyan/orange colour cast in an attempt to look more "cinematic".
Great video - I love my G85 along with my a6300. Unfortunately the rubber on the grip started coming loose so I’m trying to find a good sealant or glue to seal the edges. But the camera is definitely great at a lot of things. Can’t wait to see you A7III content.
If I could only keep one, I would keep the a6300. Mostly because of far superior low light/high ISO performance & better AF. I had to customize picture profiles to get looks I like - out of the box, the G85 has better looking video. But anyway, if it came down to it, I would take the a6300 over the G85.
I've used the kit lens, the 20mm f/2.8, the 50mm f/1.8, 28mm f/1.8, 55-210mm, 16mm f/2.8, and the 16-70 f/4. I'm lucky to have a brother who owns a bunch of Sony e-mount glass :)
I have a huge doubt and is the reason why I want a new camara: I need this camara G85 to video tape my art drawing, this auto-focus will be focusing my hand drawing instead the paper with the art? Is a really big issue for me to have a camera that focus the art and not my hand. If this is not the right camera for my purposes, which camera do you recommend for recording art drawing? I hope you can help me with this info. Thank you.
Hi. Considering the price drop, I think I will now buy a G80/G85. I'm just still hesitating between the 12-60 and the 14-140 kit lenses. Any advice? Thanks!
Still loving my G80 been good to me ! I wished the auto focus was a bit better.. also i have a tough time buying parts because of a future update in gear. Nonetheless it's amazing starter camera! It has so many feature's and although it isn't of the highest grade, i believe you can do it with the G80 !
Rain or snow? The past summer I dropped mine a full foot below the sea surface , turned on, and it went fully operational during the rest of the day and it still works - I may have been lucky :P
These more serious accidents may have negative effects in long term, if a bit of humidity gets into the camera, problems may occur after a year or two. If it ever happens to you again, I recommend stop using the camera wipe it with paper towel and take the lens off and let it just dry.
4k in G9 is limited and 4k in g85 is not limited. This is why i still choose G85 for daily use. Can you explain the shutter angel in G85 ? however in the menu feature there is no shutter angle choice, but can you set 179 degree shutter angel in G85 when we take a video in 1080 60 fps ?
of course we know that in g85 canot set shutter angle, i think you can count for the shutter angle in g85. This is my analys, if we record in 24p it means 1/ (24 fps x (360/179) = 1/ (24 fps x 2,01117) = 1/48,268 or 1/50. But if we record in 60p, the best af is 120 degree angle, so it mean 1/ (60 fps x (360/120)) = 1/ (60 fps x 3) = 1/180 shutter speed. Hope it be usefull for g85 users.
Hybrid shooter, something that has really bothered me with this camera (and not unique to Panasonic) how do you keep the dang focus point from moving (if you leave some aspects of touch on) when you put your face to cam for actual viewfinder shooting? I have not discovered a fix for this and it's very frustrating to regularly find my focus point not where i expect it be (centered), unless i physically moved it myself. Also, i found this cam regularly gets certain colors wrong and even from raw, i cannot always recover these (flowers etc). Is there a fix for this as well? Sounds like you would be the one to know. Finally, have you found the AF performance (photos) to be not great? This camera has really let me down in certain situation i feel should not have been a problem (not particularly tricky lighting or anything), seems to favor subjects beyond intended target point, even using like center or pin point.
Hey, Liked & Subscribed ::)) Thanks for these great videos. Would you recommend buying GH5 over G80 for paid work like basic music videos and some events and short films etc? If G80 is good then I would rather prefer to invest in quality glass instead of GH5 but who ever I have discussed with, all are suggesting to get a GH5 over G80. Here in the UK one can buy 2 and a half G80's for the price of one GH5 and more than 3 G80's instead of 1 GH5S. Also if its GH5 then would you still buy it over GH5S? Kindly advice. Cheers.
For professional work I would recommend GH5 over G80 but I would also recommend Sony A7 III over Panasonic GH5 or GH5S. That and Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 will have you covered, you can take a look at my reviews: bit.ly/SonyA7IIIreview bit.ly/Tamron28-75sony
Hello thanks very much for your quick reply and advice. As of now due to other commitments and investments, I think max I can go is for GH5 with 12-35 f2.8 ii etc and 2 x super fast v90 sd cards etc. GH5 can record 10 bit 422 internally hence it will produce good colours and better grading in post. I would prefer GH5S but IBIS is required for handheld shooting and also GH5S price is way too high. I have preordered BMPCC 4K so until then GH5 can be very useful. Sony setup will be over my budget plus mft lenses can be used on BMPCC 4k camera later on. Would you be happy with GH5 or would try for GH5S? Last one, kindly recommend lens options for mft body for a start. Thanks again. Regards.
4:2:2 and ALL-I on GH5 is a gimmick, if you really want to use it, you need GH5S, but you will see very little difference and you would need very powerful computer to edit footage. I personally wouldn't buy either of those for professional work, if I really had to, I would go with GH5S and gimbal. Regarding the lenses, 12-35 would probably be the most suitable to start with, for professional work I would probably recommend Speedbooster and bright Canon lenses.
Thanks again. I am a little confused on buying a suitable kit but due to budget limitations and commitments i think I might end up buying maximum a GH5 with either 12-35 f2.8 or sigma 18-35 with speedbooster though I would have preferred G80 mainly due to its total setup price. I have an old Imac but need to upgrade soon. Cheers.
I'm not sure about the UK, but here you can buy A7 III with Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 for about the same price as GH5 + 18-35 + speedbooster, and the A7 III + Tamron is much better combo.
Thank you, I appreciate your subscription. It depends mostly on what forma factor do you prefer, G85 has the best handling, out of those, I unfortunately haven't tested GX9 since Panasonic won't give me review units, so I can't tell you about that.
I have a question. What would you get? A Panasonic g7 with 2 other lenses plus the kit lens or the Panasonic g85 with its kit lens? I’m asking because my budget is $900 and having trouble on deciding on what to get.
The more I see on this camera, the more I want it as a secondary to my X-T1.. I have no need to upgrade to a newer Fuji body just for video, and even if I got one it'd not have the front facing screen - the G80 goes for just around 450€ in Sweden right now, and it is becoming really hard to say no to that..
Do you know the exact crop factor for 4K video? Dpreview said that on the GX9 it was 1.25 meaning 24mm equivalent lens turns into a 30mm. Any idea what is the crop factor on the G85?
Hey thank you for sharing I subscribe to your Channel you had a great presentation let me ask you a question compared to the G7 Lumix do you think the g85 is better or as equal to the Lumix G7
Zdravím. Sledujem tvoje videá ale neviem, asi som to nepostrehol. Chcem sa spýtať či G80, keďže má odolné telo, pôsobí v ruke naozaj tak pevnejšie a odolne. Mám G7 a ten je príliš taký plastový by som povedal. Tlačítka vydávajú plastový zvuk a celý pôsobí tak nejak lacno. A či si myslíš že by malo význam prejsť z G7 na G80 kvôli stabilizácii a odolnosti. Mám G7 a OMD EM 5. Fotím viac menej na EM5 ale v niektorých situáciách potrebujem G7. Je mi na obtiaž nosiť 2 foťáky a preto by som chcel 1 taký, čo má funkcie z týchto dvoch :D. G7 so stabilizáciou a odolnosťou EM5 :D.
Podľa mňa pôsobí G80 veľmi solídne, ja osobne nemám žiadne výhrady čo sa týka kvality vyhotovenia. Mať G7 a EM5 naraz asi nie je úplne ideálne pokiaľ ich z nejakého dôvodu nepotrebuješ používať v ten istý čas.
The autofocus in this camera just makes me want to throw it out. It had soooo much potential. But none of that matters if your footage is all out of focus.
Hi bro...I'm thinking about buying a new mirrorless camera. I have confusion to choose between panasonic g85 and canon M50 that just come out. Can you recommend which one is better between those two..Thx
Canon has better autofocus and it may be a bit better in high ISO, Panasonic is better in everything else. Especially the 4K video on M50 has very limited use.
The Hybrid Shooter As first timer i won't do much vlog or video. I will just use the camera mainly for street photography or still images. Is G85 will be good enough? Or m50 will be better in terms of image quality?
Hi, I’m going to purchase the G80 tomorrow, i live in the UK. I want to know what the firmware update is for the camera. I understand in the past the camera had panning issue and humming noise from the IBIS. I found out the latest firmware update is 1.3 but want to know if i buy the camera now if the camera will have been updated to the latest firmware or I will have to update it. Also if i do need to update it then should i update it in order if each firmware update. Please can you let me know your opinion, thank you.
The Hybrid Shooter thank you for the reply. I noticed you reply to all your comments, i have subscribed because of your care for your viewers. Keep up the good work :)
Me I have a big negative point from the G7 i dont know if G85 the same. You cant change iso directly from the wheels... you have to press a buton first and after use the wheels... It's super time taking and you miss the shot.... As my lens have apperture directly on it, one wheel remain useless.... cant asign iso to it only come in the second menue...
yes but I cant asign ISO it's not in the option. Only can be asign aperture and speed. I will prefer ISO cause aperture is on my lens. I'm sure they could have easely put this option it's just software choice.
Since you mentioned it, it would be nice to know your take on the new GX9. Same price bracket with G85 but with new sensor, though I have already read about a handful of features not on the GX9.
There are mixed opinions about the package, it could be a really good camera for some users, but to fully evaluate it I would have to test it which unfortunately won't happen, because Panasonic will not give me a review unit.
Looking for a budget camera for 4K video as a priority. Almost purchased the Canon M50 but I see I can get the G85 for only $150 more right now in Canada. So the 4K video is much better than the M50? My ultimate goal is Fuji T3 but $2200 with lens here in Canada (still I'm tempted)
Hello, do you know if the panasonic G80 / 85 solved the problem of the G7 that does not allow to use an external monitor while recording in 4k? It would be the reason why I made a team change Thank you!
I have a Canon vixia G40 camcorder. Now, what I would like to know is how I can shoot video with the G85 and make it match the Canon vixia G40. So, which setting on the G85 I have to change so the video would come up as close as possible to the Canon G40
Quick question! Im searching for my first personal camera. My girlriend owns a Panny GX80/85 (we currently own GoPro Mavic Pro) we have been using it for 6 months now for our travels we use it for travel videos and IG photos. But now that I got enough money to buy my own camera which one should I get Olympus EM5 MII, Olympus EM10 MIII, Panasonic G85 or just stick with the GX80 that she owns. Greetings
The Hybrid Shooter thank you for the quick response! , I dont think I will get the sony no touchscreen is a turnoff for mr😁, But could you tell me why the G85 is better than the Olympus em10M3 (because i say Oly also has 4k now)
EM10 III still doesn't have mic jack which is a deal barker IMO, and the AF in video is even worse than on G85 / G80, so IMO EM10 III is not valid option for filmmaking. It is also not weather sealed.
Very useful video! Thank you very much. Your conclusions are nice: you recommend this item for UA-camrs, Instagrammers, etc. My question: Is it also good for a potencial professional of video like me? :) I mean, can I make acceptable works (video weddings, spots, etc.) with this camera? I think the price is good to start. I don't wanna make a big investment in the beginning. But I also want a professional quality. P.S.: An extra question. Is this video filmed in Poland? :)
It depends on what quality standards are required by the clients and also what lenses will you be using, but it can it can be used for some types for professional work. Video was filmed in Slovakia.
I enjoy your reviews. I have a G85 and the GH 5 and a Sony A7ll. Both of the Panasonic's produce amazing stills and just as amazing video. Yes the limitation on the G 85 is the usable ISO range. And the autofocus could be better on both of them but you learn to work with what you have and the autofocus really is not that bad. You just have to be aware under what conditions it isn't going to serve you well. the Sony A7ll is a great stills camera but no mater what the specs say not very good video I have also pre ordered the SonyA7lll, but I am also skeptical because its predecessor was so bad in video and also the autofocus in Bright night cityscape Let us hope the real camera Lives up to everybody's excitement and expectation. I think you're suggesting that the autofocus is slightly improved in 1080? I have always shot 4K but I will try the 1080 see if the autofocus is better. I have tried all of the autofocus options on the G 85 and have had the best luck with one area.
Thank you, I have no doubt that A7 III will be an excellent video camere since it donwsamples 6K to 4K just like A6500 and it also has A9 autofocus system, so that won't be an issue either. On G85 AF is definitely better in 1080p, but it doesn't really matter to me personally, since I only shoot 4K. I also use the 1-are most of the time.
"it also has A9 autofocus system, so that won't be an issue either." Sony didn't say that? I thought Sony said that it was a totally new sensor? Just because the Number of auto focus points are the same everybody is assuming that it is the A9 system? But I really don't think Sony has said that unless I have missed something? Again I am skeptical that Sony would give so much in a $2000 dollars camera. I don't think Sony will correct any assumed information floating on the internet because pre orders are furious. they will stand on what they have said to this point and not correct what people assume. Let us hope that it's not another we got you. I look forward to your review when you get it. I ordered mine from B&H when they open orders at 11 Eastern standard time. Also another $2000 worth of lenses,
The sensor is new, but according to the technical specifications it is the same AF system and it also seems to perform equally well according to the tests and samples that I have seen so far. 2000 USD is a great price, unfortunately here in Europe it is about 2800 USD.
Hello, I recently bought a G85 and I love it so far but I feel like I'm not using it to its fullest potential. Can you please make an in-depth video/tutorial on what settings you use. Would greatly appreciate it. Love your channel btw!
İ have been using the Nikon d3100 for a long time and have used it for sports photos with the 70-300 sigma but i have recently got the lumix g85 12-60mm and with sports photos im not as pleased as i was with the Nikon d3100. İ am pleased with the video and macro or landscape pictures but when it comes to sports not so much. What do you guys think is it because of the lens that im using ,am i doing something wrong or is it just the Camera in general.?
The Hybrid Shooter i Find the lumix’s photos allot more grainy And allot less Sharper (specifically in sports photos) even using the Same Settings as i used on the Nikon. I would expect the photos to be allot better considering that they where took in 4k.what are your suggestions.?
Are you using 4K photo mode on G85 for shooting sport? If yes, than that is the problem, you need to use different mode. 4K photo only gives you low quality JPEG.
Hello, (I dont speak very well english, so sorry if I didn't hear it in your video) I heard that the video autofocus isn't good, but what about general autofocus (for the photos?) Thank you for your answer and the quality ou your content:)
G9 is intended for users who appreciate great handling more than portability. I'm not sure whether Panasonic will be able to find a stop for G95 / G90 in their current market segmentation.
I would love to see some audio content... You seem to have a pretty good mic. Why don't you do a review on it? I have the Zoom h1 and am planning on getting the Sennheiser MKE600. Will it be a good investment?
I am actually working on a video about my audio setup, but I know very little about audio, I honestly don't know how to test audio equipment, so I can only show what I use and how you can get same results.
@@TheHybridShooter ok. Thank you anyway. Can you tell if the stills are better from G80? I had GX80 and I sell it. Cos my 12 years old Nikon D40 provides better pictures despite its 6 mega pixel chip. (but no video). I am looking for camera with at least equal stills but capable recording good qality video. Thanks in advance for you respond.
I don `t know what to buy. I choose between gh4 and g85/g80. I do not like how g85/g80 looks like the sky. Sometimes in light areas parts are lost. I do not like this . I do car reviews. Tell me how to buy a camera.
Oh one last question. I looked online and found that the G85 had a panning issue due to the IBIS. Apparently this was fixed with a firmware update. Have you had any issues panning with this camera as some test have shown it is not as smooth as it should be
The Hybrid Shooter Thank you! Buying it today after waiting a year for it go down in price. I really wanted to get the A6300 as price wise it’s similar to the G85 but the overheating, lack of flip screen and IBIS was a deal breaker for me. I know the A6500 is better but it’s way too expensive for me. Your videos helped a lot in me making the leap to Panasonic :)
It is not possible to set shutter angle on G9 or G85, so I can only change the shutter speed and as I wrote I don't see consistent improvement on my PAL G9 and PAL G80.
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No, I will keep the G9.
The Sony A7 III looks amazing! I can't wait to know your thoughts on it.
It sure does, it is the best package for me and the price is also good, although not here in Europe.
The Hybrid Shooter I am really looking forward for the comparison. I own the G85, in Germany it is the G81 and I am very pleased with the results I got from it. Having said that I need to admit, the G9 , the Alpha 7 III sure are tempting! Also the X-H1 is not bad, since Fuji lenses are really good.
Yes, the A7 III seem so be the perfect package for the majority of users at he moment, it is a shame that Sony is trying to rip-off EU customer with that pricing in comparison to US prices.
As a G85 owner I totally agree with your observations. I will be posting my year with my G85 at some point but you’ve covered the bases. There are several things I’d like to add. I want to do something with with this camera every day. It makes me happy. As opposed to my extensive Canon gear which never spoke to me my G85 is constantly yelling, “Play with me!” Yes the 4k is great but as you said the 1080 is just bloody brilliant. And let’s put things into context as to better or best. The dynamic range on most cameras now exceeds film. I can shoot broadcast quality work with the G85. I spent $75,000 on a betacam camera in 1991 for crying out loud. There is still nothing in the G85 price range that matches and that stupid Canon M50 is stillborn. And the best feature of the G85 for vlogging? It’s the audio limiter.
Panasonic cameras are very easy to like, they always make sure that their cameras are joy to use, same is truth about my G9.
GX8 is in G85 price bracket, and is certainly comparable performance wise.
@Alan Naranjo I bought one in 2020.. Still a bloody good camera..
purchased the Lumix G7 3 days ago and fell in love! so much so that I returned it and got the G85!!!
I actually got it for the 1080p quality. It's been amazing so far. Glad you mentioned it, it's so hard to find info about 1080p recording on most cameras now! They all mention that the 4k is either oversampled, or cropped, or uses pixel binning, but then if you want to know how the 1080p is, you're left in the dark. Let us know how the a7 III 1080p is ;) If it had a flip out screen I would get it, but damn I need that screen.
Yes, people are often asking about 1080p quality, so I try to include that in reviews even though that I personally only shoot 4K.
even I dont get a Full HD monitor the 4K is defently better than the 1080P. Suck a lot of space but worth it
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The Seedling Project Vegan here too 🤷♂️
the camera conspiracy guy nice to see ya here !
I appreciate the thoughtful, long-term perspective. The G85 may hit the sweet spot for me, as it ticks the most boxes for my forthcoming filming needs.
Dropped my t3i and picked this up for video! Love it! I was DONE with Canon. Panasonic is actually a video camera, not a photographer camera that shoots video like Canon is.
I love my G85 - it's just right for attaching to my backpacks with a Peak Design Capture v3
G85 is very good compromise between handling and portability.
So far best review On the G85. You went really in depth and answered alot questions I had, thanks alot man and have a blessed day
Thank you, I'm glad that you liked it.
I got my G85 a few weeks ago and I'm so happy with it. I came over from a Consumer Nikon D5300. The thing I wasn't expecting, and which really blew me away, was the sharpness of the G85. I have the 12-60mm kit lens and a 45-200mm f/4.0-5.6 Lumix G Vario lens. The main reason I switched to mirrorless was the smaller size and no longer having to deal with dust in the viewfinder. "And on the 8th day God gave us the EVF." lol Peter Paul Chato commented below that his G85 tells him to “Play with me!” I couldn't agree more. There are so many bells and whistles on the G85 that it will take me months to explore. One the easy features to grasp, and I truly love, is the "post focus" function where you can select what you want in focus.
One of the reasons I purchased the G85 with the 12-60mm kit lens was The Hybrid Shooter's review of the camera. Now he's going to Sony!? lol That's cool as I know the Sony Mirroless System is very good. But the Sony A7 is $2000 and the G85 is now running at $800 American. So if you have the bucks go for the Sony, but if you don't take a strong look at the G7 and the G85's. You won't be sorry.
I agree that G85 is a great camera for the money. I am not switching to anything, I already use many cameras including Panasonic G9 and Sony A6500.
howbout the AF? any good?
The AF is fantastic in Single Shot AF and 49 Area focus. I have not put it through the paces of Tracking and Continuous.
Thanks to your many video about it that I've watch, I made the step in December and got it. Pretty satisfy about it so far (just had a sensor replacement straight cause a default on it). Your objectivity in your video has let me know exactly what I could expect from it. But now you are tempting everybody with the G9 😆. Great work !!!
You're welcome, I'm glad that my videos were useful to you. Well, G9 really is a great camera.
Hello! Thank you so much for the video, it really helped me to be more confused about what to purchase 😅 I am a Canon Rebel user but I need to update urgently my camera. I will use it primarily for photography, so the sensor size of the G85 concerns me in terms of pictures quality. What would you recommend for a intermediate level in terms of pictures quality, sharpness and definition, a Canon 80D, a Sony A6300 or the G85?? Thank you in advance!
For intermediate level it is suitable IMO. A6300 will have better image quality but the usability is not as good as with G85. G85 is a good choice overall IMO.
I just bought one now that the price has dropped. I think this is such a good camera, it could be my last DSLR. It is significantly better than the G7.
The more I use the G85 the more I love it
So do I.
Just recently purchased the G85 and I am in love with it!
Good choice, I'm glad that you like it!
A a G7 user, I appreciate your thoughtful analysis. I just wish the used prices of the G85 would start to fall ;-( Thank you for the effort and the sharing. Thumbs up.
smalltalk - I’ve found used camera equipment only drops $100. I scooped up a LUMIX 100-300 used for $100 off. But for a camera body I don’t think I would take the risk unless I knew the seller.
Thank you, prices of new G85s don't fall much either, because people are still buying a lot of G85s.
I agree with everything you said. I'm a HUGE fan of the weather sealing though. It is the most important thing for what I do.
Weather sealing a great think to have, although I don't use it that much.
I love my G85, when I can outperform it then I will upgrade to a G9
I don't think that you necessarily need to outperform the camera to benefit from upgrading.
The Hybrid Shooter - very true, I just need to justify it, but then I will need to upgrade to Leica Glass
I bought mine last March. I really wanted to love the Oly Em-5II- I was seduced by it's beauty and small size. But once I held one it was clear it was too small for me. I knew it wouldn't be long before I dropped it. I am happy with my choice as the G85 is easier to pick up and run with with clearer controls, better ergonomics and a much easier to navigate menu IMHO. It also helps that it's more advanced that the Em-5II being ½ generation newer. At $900 new for a weather-sealed body and very nice sealed kit lens it's a no-brainer for the beginning to intermediate photographer. Theres also the fact that you can buy excellent IS Panasonic lens without fear they will be obsolete when you upgrade.
I agree, the handling with G85 is really good and the size is still OK, thank you for sharing your experiences!
Your videos are unbelievably sharp and clean looking. Do you have a video explaining what settings you use on the G85 and the editing software/uploading...etc?
I have explained some part of the process in this video ua-cam.com/video/TEUpu-emtlg/v-deo.html but I intend to make full tutorial on how to achieve the best export quality.
You rock! Thank you! I just subscribed. I look forward to more of your videos. Thanks for getting back to me on this.
That link takes me to my own "video list" in my managers page. lol. Is it copy and pasted incorrectly?
Sorry about that, it works now. I appreciate your subscription!
Good video, I just got the camera and watching as many videos as possible to learn about my new camera, I also ordered the G7 for my daughter.
Thank you, I hope that will like your G85!
I shot a wedding last year using a g85 as second body. Ended up using it 80% of the time mainly because of the handling. The couple was super happy with the results!
Just Sold mine. I harder to use than my GH5 and harder to match. I only shoot video and use multiple cameras. The menus took more time to navigate and it felt less robust than the GH5. I bought the G85 when it came out and enjoyed using it until I received my Gh5. If you can afford the price upgrade and you need more from an M43 camera I would highly recommend the GH5.
Also you'll still need a speed booster to get low light so keep that in mind when investing in this system.
I was toggling between the G85 and GH5 myself. As much as I'd like the GH5, I'm going G85. First and foremost is the cost difference. I can get the G85 kit for less than half the price of the GH5 body alone. Secondly, I took into consideration my final media outlet. I create videos of stuff like family vacations and outings that I downsize to 1080p and post to UA-cam and Vimeo because I have yet to be able to play a 4k video online having tried home DSL and T1 at work MULTIPLE times with zero success. I love the GH5's capacity to shoot 60fps 4k, but realistically I would shoot that less than 1% of the time. I typically shoot 24fps which is fine for panning landmarks and otherwise capturing my surroundings. Only once in a great while I would need 60fps to capture super fast action and/or something that I might want to slo-mo in post, but not enough to invest an additional $1200. I have my GoPro Hero6 if I absolutely need 4k 60fps. I do realize that there's a ton more to love about the GH5 than the 4k capabilities that I've way over simplified here, but for a video 'enthusiast' such as myself I simply could not justify the price. For what it's worth, I am jealous of you though - LOL!
I just bought the G80/85 and I'm loving it! Have you updated the camera to the latest firmware 1.3? And if you haven't, do you recommend we should? My firmware is currently 1.2 from the box
1.3 only fixes some minor issues, updating only take a couple of minuets so there is no reason not to do it.
So I take that as a yes from you that you updated to 1.3? I trust your opinion so if you have updated then that gives me confidence, thanks for the reply.
I have updated from 1.2.
As a camera and watch enthusiast, I appreciated this video.
I'm glad to hear that!
I am fairly new to the world of photography. I purchased my G80 (uk) 6 months ago and I find it to be very user friendly. The controls are placed nicely. I also find most of my pics are great straight out of the camera so no need to edit. I will treat myself to a G9 before my trip to sri lanka end of this year. I enjoy your videos. Keep up the good work!
Thank you, in terms of handling Panasonic is really the best IMO, G9 is also a great upgrade.
My first Mirror-less is going to be g85. I was dead set on the a6300 before I came across g85.
Your videos provided the most significant deciding factor.
Thank you for the excellent content you create.
Any suggestions for the best time/online market place to buy g85? I am not in a terrible hurry, I can wait for a good deal.
I will purchase it from US.
You're welcome, G85 is a very good choice, especially if you need front facing screen. Here is IMO very good deal including the 12-60mm lens, 128GB Extreme Pro card, extra batteries, charger, very good Rode Video Micro Mic and some other stuff for $999 amzn.to/2GTd3Bu
Wow. Thank you. That's a very good deal indeed.
2023 says hello.
It beat the E-M5 II for me, especially in handling and controls. Had two and the 12-60/3.5, kept one body only (with grip) but the used market is dipping so fast now I might need to sell ASAP to fund a G9 or E-M1 II upgrade within the next year, expecting both to drop below €500.
I'm using Oly 25/1.8, 45/1.8, 14-150II/4 and adapted old glass sometimes. Also a beat up E-PL7 that just keeps going, might get the 12-32 and/or 17/1.8 for that.
16MP is perfectly fine for my needs exactly as stated in this video. I haven't used 4k photo (8MP) for kids, pets, school events yet, if that turns out great I'll just keep it forever, sort of. Haven't done any video yet either and don't mind 1080p for that. Curious about how it'll work as run-and-gun clip shooter as I don't have a decent editing computer and time for that anyway.
Very inspiring work 👍 subscribed!
Thank you, I appreciate your subscription!
Thank you so much. Your video has helped me make my decision. However, is it still worth the price in 2022? I'm stuck between Canon T8i, Fujifilm Xt200 and this in my mind. Is there something else I should consider looking at? Please let me know your thoughts which I would hugely appreciate as I'm in a limbo with choosing one. It's my first camera buy.
what did you end up with in the end?
Looking to buy this camera in 2020. Is it still a good buy. I have a fz300 and looking to upgrade.
Hi, Maybe you can help me out here? I am using the G80 with the 7-14 Panasonic lens a lot during my vlog interviews at tradeshows and exhibitions. Until now, the autofocus of this camera is hunting very much and it seems that when I change my settings, autofocus does not work properly. Most of the time the person that I interview should be in focus as well as myself and..... not the people behind us if you know what I mean. Do you have any suggestions on the settings for this camera?
I still use it as my main camera and it's still a BEAST!
I wouldn't say that it is a beast, but it is definitely a very good all-round camera.
The Hybrid Shooter haha indeed. I upgraded from a T3i, to me it's a beast lol. Still want the a7sii tho :/
Yes, it is a great camera indeed. A7 III is actually the one to want, I will make a review this week.
The Hybrid Shooter Yeah I heard it released. Thanks for responding and making quality videos!
Still love my G85. Still going to buy a G9 or GH5.
G9 or GH5 is good upgrade path.
Selling my T7i to pay for this. Already have some nice MFT lenses from an older system I had. Love the size of these cameras.
Upgraded from g7 to G80 (€460 body new), great camera and additions to the old one. The only thing I don't like is a missing focus point thumbstick.. If I want to use it with closed display (to prevent scratches and battery drain) using only evf I have to enable buttons to do it, but I lose the most common functions. Also a bit slippery the sd card opening slot.
I like the ibis (a bit noisy) but it works fine and new shutter even mechanical is one of the most quiet on the market. 👍 You have also pal/ntsc format from factory 25/30 50/60p.. With g7 u need an hotkey reset to change from pal to ntsc. Did you measure how much battery drain with always ibis enabled? Thanks
No, I haven't measured that, but I recommend just getting spare batteries instead, IBIS is well worth in.
I bought the G80 for shooting video, but then got an a6500, mainly because of the hugely better autofocus. Still have the G80 but hardly ever use it. If you don't need the autofocus it is extremely good value and the Sony is more expensive, but I find it a more appealing camera in almost every way.
Incidentally, why do some of your shots have a severe cyan tinge. It looks very odd, particularly as it is inconsistent. I notice that some people adopt a cyan/orange colour cast in an attempt to look more "cinematic".
Great video - I love my G85 along with my a6300. Unfortunately the rubber on the grip started coming loose so I’m trying to find a good sealant or glue to seal the edges. But the camera is definitely great at a lot of things. Can’t wait to see you A7III content.
Daniel's Loose Ends which do you like better your g85 or a6300?
If I could only keep one, I would keep the a6300. Mostly because of far superior low light/high ISO performance & better AF. I had to customize picture profiles to get looks I like - out of the box, the G85 has better looking video. But anyway, if it came down to it, I would take the a6300 over the G85.
Daniel's Loose Ends what lenses do you use with the a6300?
I've used the kit lens, the 20mm f/2.8, the 50mm f/1.8, 28mm f/1.8, 55-210mm, 16mm f/2.8, and the 16-70 f/4. I'm lucky to have a brother who owns a bunch of Sony e-mount glass :)
Thank you, I header from a few people the the grip cover starts pealing off after some time, that is really unfortunate.
I have a huge doubt and is the reason why I want a new camara: I need this camara G85 to video tape my art drawing, this auto-focus will be focusing my hand drawing instead the paper with the art? Is a really big issue for me to have a camera that focus the art and not my hand. If this is not the right camera for my purposes, which camera do you recommend for recording art drawing? I hope you can help me with this info. Thank you.
IF you need the best autofocus available in that price category, Sony A6300 is probably the best choice.
@@TheHybridShooter Thank you very much for your reply!
Thanks for your video, I just bought the Panasonic G85. I'm using this camera for my daughter's sport shooting. Which Lens should I get ?
You're welcome. All-round zoom lens like 12-60mm or 12-35mm is the most versatile, 25mm is F1.4 or F1.7 is more suitable for low light shooting.
Hi. Considering the price drop, I think I will now buy a G80/G85. I'm just still hesitating between the 12-60 and the 14-140 kit lenses. Any advice? Thanks!
That depends mostly on the focal range that you prefer, 12-60 is a bit better optically, but the difference is not huge.
Very useful and informative. Great job.
Thank you!
Still loving my G80 been good to me !
I wished the auto focus was a bit better.. also i have a tough time buying parts because of a future update in gear.
Nonetheless it's amazing starter camera! It has so many feature's and although it isn't of the highest grade, i believe you can do it with the G80 !
Yes, unless you need to shoot in bad conditions, G80 can do the job. It is good choice for stater camera.
totally agree ! Keep up the good content :)
Very nice review I will buy it after watching this video Thank you brother
You're welcome and thank you for watching!
Very detailed Review, Well explained, Subbed
Thank you, I appreciate your subscription.
Rain or snow? The past summer I dropped mine a full foot below the sea surface , turned on, and it went fully operational during the rest of the day and it still works - I may have been lucky :P
These more serious accidents may have negative effects in long term, if a bit of humidity gets into the camera, problems may occur after a year or two. If it ever happens to you again, I recommend stop using the camera wipe it with paper towel and take the lens off and let it just dry.
4k in G9 is limited and 4k in g85 is not limited. This is why i still choose G85 for daily use. Can you explain the shutter angel in G85 ? however in the menu feature there is no shutter angle choice, but can you set 179 degree shutter angel in G85 when we take a video in 1080 60 fps ?
Unfortunately it is not possible to set shutter angle on G85. You can set the shutter angle by changing the shutter speed.
of course we know that in g85 canot set shutter angle, i think you can count for the shutter angle in g85. This is my analys, if we record in 24p it means 1/ (24 fps x (360/179) = 1/ (24 fps x 2,01117) = 1/48,268 or 1/50. But if we record in 60p, the best af is 120 degree angle, so it mean 1/ (60 fps x (360/120)) = 1/ (60 fps x 3) = 1/180 shutter speed. Hope it be usefull for g85 users.
Well, if you now it why did you ask "can you set 179 degree shutter angel in G85 when we take a video in 1080 60 fps ?" that is pretty strange.
excuse me,I used my g85 AF-C to record video ,but the focus always repeat focus ,how to get better thank you!
Despite all the new announcements I’m still thinking the G85 is the one for me in 2019 to buy tomorrow! Am I crazy?
Hybrid shooter, something that has really bothered me with this camera (and not unique to Panasonic) how do you keep the dang focus point from moving (if you leave some aspects of touch on) when you put your face to cam for actual viewfinder shooting? I have not discovered a fix for this and it's very frustrating to regularly find my focus point not where i expect it be (centered), unless i physically moved it myself.
Also, i found this cam regularly gets certain colors wrong and even from raw, i cannot always recover these (flowers etc). Is there a fix for this as well? Sounds like you would be the one to know.
Finally, have you found the AF performance (photos) to be not great? This camera has really let me down in certain situation i feel should not have been a problem (not particularly tricky lighting or anything), seems to favor subjects beyond intended target point, even using like center or pin point.
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Thanks for these great videos.
Would you recommend buying GH5 over G80 for paid work like basic music videos and some events and short films etc?
If G80 is good then I would rather prefer to invest in quality glass instead of GH5 but who ever I have discussed with, all are suggesting to get a GH5 over G80. Here in the UK one can buy 2 and a half G80's for the price of one GH5 and more than 3 G80's instead of 1 GH5S.
Also if its GH5 then would you still buy it over GH5S?
Kindly advice.
Cheers.
For professional work I would recommend GH5 over G80 but I would also recommend Sony A7 III over Panasonic GH5 or GH5S. That and Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 will have you covered, you can take a look at my reviews: bit.ly/SonyA7IIIreview bit.ly/Tamron28-75sony
Hello thanks very much for your quick reply and advice.
As of now due to other commitments and investments, I think max I can go is for GH5 with 12-35 f2.8 ii etc and 2 x super fast v90 sd cards etc.
GH5 can record 10 bit 422 internally hence it will produce good colours and better grading in post.
I would prefer GH5S but IBIS is required for handheld shooting and also GH5S price is way too high.
I have preordered BMPCC 4K so until then GH5 can be very useful.
Sony setup will be over my budget plus mft lenses can be used on BMPCC 4k camera later on.
Would you be happy with GH5 or would try for GH5S?
Last one, kindly recommend lens options for mft body for a start.
Thanks again.
Regards.
4:2:2 and ALL-I on GH5 is a gimmick, if you really want to use it, you need GH5S, but you will see very little difference and you would need very powerful computer to edit footage. I personally wouldn't buy either of those for professional work, if I really had to, I would go with GH5S and gimbal.
Regarding the lenses, 12-35 would probably be the most suitable to start with, for professional work I would probably recommend Speedbooster and bright Canon lenses.
Thanks again.
I am a little confused on buying a suitable kit but due to budget limitations and commitments i think I might end up buying maximum a GH5 with either 12-35 f2.8 or sigma 18-35 with speedbooster though I would have preferred G80 mainly due to its total setup price.
I have an old Imac but need to upgrade soon.
Cheers.
I'm not sure about the UK, but here you can buy A7 III with Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 for about the same price as GH5 + 18-35 + speedbooster, and the A7 III + Tamron is much better combo.
I'm a new into photography / video and would like to know if you would recommend g85, gx85 or the newer gx9? Thanks and nice video subbed.
Thank you, I appreciate your subscription. It depends mostly on what forma factor do you prefer, G85 has the best handling, out of those, I unfortunately haven't tested GX9 since Panasonic won't give me review units, so I can't tell you about that.
I have a question. What would you get? A Panasonic g7 with 2 other lenses plus the kit lens or the Panasonic g85 with its kit lens? I’m asking because my budget is $900 and having trouble on deciding on what to get.
I can't really answer that, depends on whether you need those extra lenses.
The more I see on this camera, the more I want it as a secondary to my X-T1.. I have no need to upgrade to a newer Fuji body just for video, and even if I got one it'd not have the front facing screen - the G80 goes for just around 450€ in Sweden right now, and it is becoming really hard to say no to that..
That is really good price and it is indeed very good camera for video.
Do you know the exact crop factor for 4K video? Dpreview said that on the GX9 it was 1.25 meaning 24mm equivalent lens turns into a 30mm. Any idea what is the crop factor on the G85?
Hey thank you for sharing I subscribe to your Channel you had a great presentation let me ask you a question compared to the G7 Lumix do you think the g85 is better or as equal to the Lumix G7
Thank you, it is G85 is better camera than G7.
Listen folks...this camera is well worth buying in 2020... it's a bloddy good camera...end of.
Hey bro .. Lumix G85 or Sony A6300 ? What do you think ?
Depends on your preferences, take a look at my A6500 vs G85 comparison: bit.ly/a6500vsg85
Zdravím. Sledujem tvoje videá ale neviem, asi som to nepostrehol. Chcem sa spýtať či G80, keďže má odolné telo, pôsobí v ruke naozaj tak pevnejšie a odolne. Mám G7 a ten je príliš taký plastový by som povedal. Tlačítka vydávajú plastový zvuk a celý pôsobí tak nejak lacno. A či si myslíš že by malo význam prejsť z G7 na G80 kvôli stabilizácii a odolnosti. Mám G7 a OMD EM 5. Fotím viac menej na EM5 ale v niektorých situáciách potrebujem G7. Je mi na obtiaž nosiť 2 foťáky a preto by som chcel 1 taký, čo má funkcie z týchto dvoch :D. G7 so stabilizáciou a odolnosťou EM5 :D.
Podľa mňa pôsobí G80 veľmi solídne, ja osobne nemám žiadne výhrady čo sa týka kvality vyhotovenia. Mať G7 a EM5 naraz asi nie je úplne ideálne pokiaľ ich z nejakého dôvodu nepotrebuješ používať v ten istý čas.
The Hybrid Shooter Tak to je dobre. Práve preto rozmýšľam že oba predám ... chcel by som ísť asi do tohto G80 ..
Potom by bolo možno dobré, keby si si ho nikde v predajni pozrel, aj keď neviem ako sú na tom slovenské predajne s tovarom na sklade.
No veď toto .. slovenské obchody majú málo takýchto vecí na sklade .. každopádne ďakujem za odpoveď.
If you use touch screen focus that is non-continue do you think the AF is ok.
The autofocus in this camera just makes me want to throw it out. It had soooo much potential. But none of that matters if your footage is all out of focus.
John Carlo Cielo who needs auto focus
Which one has a better value GX9 or G85 . I know the GX9 has a bigger mega pixel sensor but I'm not to worried about that.
It is not just about megapixels, it is better sensor overall. Both are good value, it depends on your preferences and what you intend to use it for.
Hi bro...I'm thinking about buying a new mirrorless camera. I have confusion to choose between panasonic g85 and canon M50 that just come out. Can you recommend which one is better between those two..Thx
Canon has better autofocus and it may be a bit better in high ISO, Panasonic is better in everything else. Especially the 4K video on M50 has very limited use.
The Hybrid Shooter As first timer i won't do much vlog or video. I will just use the camera mainly for street photography or still images. Is G85 will be good enough? Or m50 will be better in terms of image quality?
I have the same dillema bro. Tho the g85 is way more pricier than m50 here in my country. What do you get🤔?
Hi, I’m going to purchase the G80 tomorrow, i live in the UK. I want to know what the firmware update is for the camera. I understand in the past the camera had panning issue and humming noise from the IBIS. I found out the latest firmware update is 1.3 but want to know if i buy the camera now if the camera will have been updated to the latest firmware or I will have to update it. Also if i do need to update it then should i update it in order if each firmware update. Please can you let me know your opinion, thank you.
It will probably be updated, but you can see the FW version in settings. If it isn't you can easily updated to 1.3 in just a couple of minutes.
The Hybrid Shooter thank you for the reply. I noticed you reply to all your comments, i have subscribed because of your care for your viewers. Keep up the good work :)
Thank you, I appreciate your subscription, yes, I try to reply to all of the comments.
Would you recommend this over the Canon 200D
Yes, definitely.
The Hybrid Shooter
Awesome, Thanks for replying
I’m buying this camera for UA-cam this summer at 500€ (used, not new). Good deal?
Yes, that is a good deal.
The Hybrid Shooter thank you very much. These videos are nice and useful, also well edited
You're welcome, thank you for watching!
Me I have a big negative point from the G7 i dont know if G85 the same. You cant change iso directly from the wheels... you have to press a buton first and after use the wheels... It's super time taking and you miss the shot.... As my lens have apperture directly on it, one wheel remain useless.... cant asign iso to it only come in the second menue...
Well, there are only two wheels, so you need to choose what settings do you want to have assigned to those. Only higher-end cameras have 3 wheels.
yes but I cant asign ISO it's not in the option. Only can be asign aperture and speed. I will prefer ISO cause aperture is on my lens. I'm sure they could have easely put this option it's just software choice.
Will upgrade from my G85 to Panasonic FF when it will be available
I'm looking forward to Panasonic full frame as well.
Since you mentioned it, it would be nice to know your take on the new GX9. Same price bracket with G85 but with new sensor, though I have already read about a handful of features not on the GX9.
There are mixed opinions about the package, it could be a really good camera for some users, but to fully evaluate it I would have to test it which unfortunately won't happen, because Panasonic will not give me a review unit.
how performance for video outdoor vlog?
Looking for a budget camera for 4K video as a priority. Almost purchased the Canon M50 but I see I can get the G85 for only $150 more right now in Canada. So the 4K video is much better than the M50? My ultimate goal is Fuji T3 but $2200 with lens here in Canada (still I'm tempted)
Yes, 4K video is much better on G85.
Hello, do you know if the panasonic G80 / 85 solved the problem of the G7 that does not allow to use an external monitor while recording in 4k? It would be the reason why I made a team change Thank you!
I unfortunately don't use it with external monitor, so I can't tell you, sorry about that.
How is the G85/G80 in comparison with the GX8?
I have never tested the GX8, so I unfortunately can't tell you that.
I have a Canon vixia G40 camcorder. Now, what I would like to know is how I can shoot video with the G85 and make it match the Canon vixia G40. So, which setting on the G85 I have to change so the video would come up as close as possible to the Canon G40
Unfortunately I have never used any Canon camcorder, so I can't tell you that.
for the 1080p, what codec are you using. Avchd or mp4
Thanks for the review. Do you know of an L-bracket that works with the G85?
You're welcome, I unfortunately haven't used any L-Bracket with G85.
Quick question!
Im searching for my first personal camera.
My girlriend owns a Panny GX80/85 (we currently own GoPro Mavic Pro) we have been using it for 6 months now for our travels we use it for travel videos and IG photos.
But now that I got enough money to buy my own camera which one should I get Olympus EM5 MII, Olympus EM10 MIII, Panasonic G85 or just stick with the GX80 that she owns.
Greetings
If you shoot video, Panasonic G85 will be the best one. Sony A6300 is also worth considering, the price is quite good at the moment amzn.to/2F2pKbz
The Hybrid Shooter thank you for the quick response! , I dont think I will get the sony no touchscreen is a turnoff for mr😁, But could you tell me why the G85 is better than the Olympus em10M3 (because i say Oly also has 4k now)
G85 as better codec and video quality.
The Hybrid Shooter Ok thats awesome so the G85 is 300€ more worth inyour opinion?
EM10 III still doesn't have mic jack which is a deal barker IMO, and the AF in video is even worse than on G85 / G80, so IMO EM10 III is not valid option for filmmaking. It is also not weather sealed.
So.. this one or oly em 10 mk iii? For picture quality, lowlight and autofocus performance
I prefer G80 over EM-10 III especially in terms of video and handling. Image quality and AF in still is similar on both.
Nice watch collection
Thank you!
Very useful video! Thank you very much. Your conclusions are nice: you recommend this item for UA-camrs, Instagrammers, etc. My question: Is it also good for a potencial professional of video like me? :) I mean, can I make acceptable works (video weddings, spots, etc.) with this camera? I think the price is good to start. I don't wanna make a big investment in the beginning. But I also want a professional quality.
P.S.: An extra question. Is this video filmed in Poland? :)
It depends on what quality standards are required by the clients and also what lenses will you be using, but it can it can be used for some types for professional work. Video was filmed in Slovakia.
1:09 Humenné :D Inak super video plánujem kúpu a asi zle nezrobím keď ho kúpim.
Ďakujem, momentálne je to stále veľmi dobrý fotoaparát za tú cenu.
I enjoy your reviews. I have a G85 and the GH 5 and a Sony A7ll. Both of the Panasonic's produce amazing stills and just as amazing video. Yes the limitation on the G 85 is the usable ISO range. And the autofocus could be better on both of them but you learn to work with what you have and the autofocus really is not that bad. You just have to be aware under what conditions it isn't going to serve you well. the Sony A7ll is a great stills camera but no mater what the specs say not very good video
I have also pre ordered the SonyA7lll, but I am also skeptical because its predecessor was so bad in video and also the autofocus in Bright night cityscape
Let us hope the real camera Lives up to everybody's excitement and expectation.
I think you're suggesting that the autofocus is slightly improved in 1080? I have always shot 4K but I will try the 1080 see if the autofocus is better. I have tried all of the autofocus options on the G 85 and have had the best luck with one area.
Thank you, I have no doubt that A7 III will be an excellent video camere since it donwsamples 6K to 4K just like A6500 and it also has A9 autofocus system, so that won't be an issue either.
On G85 AF is definitely better in 1080p, but it doesn't really matter to me personally, since I only shoot 4K. I also use the 1-are most of the time.
"it also has A9 autofocus system, so that won't be an issue either." Sony didn't say that? I thought Sony said that it was a totally new sensor? Just because the Number of auto focus points are the same everybody is assuming that it is the A9 system? But I really don't think Sony has said that unless I have missed something?
Again I am skeptical that Sony would give so much in a $2000 dollars camera. I don't think Sony will correct any assumed information floating on the internet because pre orders are furious.
they will stand on what they have said to this point and not correct what people assume. Let us hope that it's not another we got you.
I look forward to your review when you get it. I ordered mine from B&H when they open orders at 11 Eastern standard time. Also another $2000 worth of lenses,
The sensor is new, but according to the technical specifications it is the same AF system and it also seems to perform equally well according to the tests and samples that I have seen so far. 2000 USD is a great price, unfortunately here in Europe it is about 2800 USD.
Does GX9 is better for street and travel photography?
I don't know, I haven't tested it, Panasonic will not give me a review unit.
Hello, I recently bought a G85 and I love it so far but I feel like I'm not using it to its fullest potential. Can you please make an in-depth video/tutorial on what settings you use. Would greatly appreciate it. Love your channel btw!
Thank you, I have already done that: ua-cam.com/video/0NIQZyhgh4w/v-deo.html and ua-cam.com/video/8lMJoZ8m2ac/v-deo.html
Thank you sir!
İ have been using the Nikon d3100 for a long time and have used it for sports photos with the 70-300 sigma but i have recently got the lumix g85 12-60mm and with sports photos im not as pleased as i was with the Nikon d3100. İ am pleased with the video and macro or landscape pictures but when it comes to sports not so much. What do you guys think is it because of the lens that im using ,am i doing something wrong or is it just the Camera in general.?
You would have to specify why you are not pleased.
The Hybrid Shooter i Find the lumix’s photos allot more grainy And allot less Sharper (specifically in sports photos) even using the Same Settings as i used on the Nikon. I would expect the photos to be allot better considering that they where took in 4k.what are your suggestions.?
Are you using 4K photo mode on G85 for shooting sport? If yes, than that is the problem, you need to use different mode. 4K photo only gives you low quality JPEG.
Does it have stabilization in 4k video shooting?
Yes, it does.
Is it worth buying in 2022 for Streetphotography ?
Not really, the autofocus is very poor by 2022 standards.
Hello, (I dont speak very well english, so sorry if I didn't hear it in your video) I heard that the video autofocus isn't good, but what about general autofocus (for the photos?) Thank you for your answer and the quality ou your content:)
Autofocus in stills is very fast and reliable unless you need to track fast moving subjects.
The G9 is just too big for mft. Hope Panasonic will release a stripped down version. G90? with the size as the old G6.
G9 is intended for users who appreciate great handling more than portability. I'm not sure whether Panasonic will be able to find a stop for G95 / G90 in their current market segmentation.
G85 have recording limit? (Stop recording at 30min?)
G85 doesn't only G80 and G81.
The Hybrid Shooter thanks
Efren Herian no limit
I would love to see some audio content... You seem to have a pretty good mic. Why don't you do a review on it? I have the Zoom h1 and am planning on getting the Sennheiser MKE600. Will it be a good investment?
I am actually working on a video about my audio setup, but I know very little about audio, I honestly don't know how to test audio equipment, so I can only show what I use and how you can get same results.
Is this good enough for astrophotography? (Without editing)
No, you would need very expensive lenses for astrophotography with M43 camera, there are better options for that.
Do I get more video quality from Lumix G85 12-60 or Fujifilm X-T20 XF 18-55mm F2.8-4.0 R LM OIS? thx
I have never tested X-T20, so I can't tell you that.
@@TheHybridShooter ok. Thank you anyway. Can you tell if the stills are better from G80? I had GX80 and I sell it. Cos my 12 years old Nikon D40 provides better pictures despite its 6 mega pixel chip. (but no video). I am looking for camera with at least equal stills but capable recording good qality video. Thanks in advance for you respond.
Do pytle chlape! Já se tady potím s angličtinou a ty umíš česky :)))
Jo, umín i česky alebo aspoň slovensky :) Fotografie z G80 vyzerajú veľmi podobne ako z GX80.
I like a lot my g95 a Lot !
I don `t know what to buy. I choose between gh4 and g85/g80. I do not like how g85/g80 looks like the sky. Sometimes in light areas parts are lost. I do not like this . I do car reviews. Tell me how to buy a camera.
I recommend G88 because of the IBIS, better sharpness and less 4K crop. Picture style can be adjusted on both.
25 mb vs 100/200 mb?
both shoot 100 mbps
bitrate win gh4
Have you used Godox TT350 or TT685 flashes with G85?
No, I haven't.
Can I use a 10 bit external recorder for the g85?
No, it doesn't support 10-bit output.
It's still worth buying in 2020
At the price it is.
Oh one last question. I looked online and found that the G85 had a panning issue due to the IBIS. Apparently this was fixed with a firmware update. Have you had any issues panning with this camera as some test have shown it is not as smooth as it should be
I bought the G85 after the update so I haven't had any issues with that.
The Hybrid Shooter Thank you! Buying it today after waiting a year for it go down in price. I really wanted to get the A6300 as price wise it’s similar to the G85 but the overheating, lack of flip screen and IBIS was a deal breaker for me. I know the A6500 is better but it’s way too expensive for me. Your videos helped a lot in me making the leap to Panasonic :)
You're welcome, G85 is good choice.
You forgot the G81 ;)
What do you think of the Yodi Yeo “focus hack” ?
On G9 there is noting to fix and on G85 I didn't see consistent improvement.
when you can count 179 degree of your setting, it will do. So thats why i ask it to hybrid shooter about it
It is not possible to set shutter angle on G9 or G85, so I can only change the shutter speed and as I wrote I don't see consistent improvement on my PAL G9 and PAL G80.