Congratulations for your great work of disseminating and reconstructing the history of the Banaadir and the East Coast of Africa. Without your interview, Prof. Abdulaziz Y. Lodi would have been known only to researchers. Many years ago, in some Bologna library fund, I read the testimony of an Italian who had been in Mogadishu towards the end of the 1800s or the beginning of the 1900s and wrote "In Mogadishu the most spoken language is Swahili but they write in Arabic". I was very struck by this description especially as the Italian came from the parts of Zanzibar and spoke Swahili. I looked for that document other times but I never found it again because I had lost its location. Now hearing an eminent scholar say that the Banaadir was a Swahili linguistic area I'm starting to think that it could really be so even if more research is needed.
that is bullshit sawahili is spoken in kenya not muqadisho somali is spoken in muqadisho there are small minority who speaks other languages in muqadisho they are descendants of immigrants who settled muqadisho from midle East india and few from kenyan tribes maybe you have mistaken muqdisho with mumbasa
I used to believe like what the doctor here has said that either Oman or India and Persia had greatly contributed to the Islamization of East Africa but totally ignoring Ethiopia's contribution. Remember that the early Muslims had to flee to Ethiopia to escape persecution in Arabia and many who fled there settled in that part and never went back to Arabia. This is the source of Islamization of Africa because the Islamic sects of most of Africans aren't as those prevalent in Oman or India or Persia.
I assume you are Shashanshia i have heard the shashanshia people came from the Persian empire some 1600 years ago to xamar and they are the founders of xamar thought I csnt confirm it its just stories I have heard from the banaadir people if I'm not wrong shashanshia comes from the person word shāhanshāh which means king of Kings which is a title giving to the ruler of Persian empire Muqadishu comes from the persians word Maq'ad-i-shah which teanslate to "seat of the king" again a Persian name my guess is the shashanshia people came from the Persian empire and settled in the coast and build xamar later down the line the Arabs came to spread islam and they all became one community
Very intresting! I have also heard MAQAM ASH-SHAH. But I'm not from Somalia. I'm Iranian Iranian so to speak 🙂 But I consider myself to be Swahili since I was raised by a family from Lamu after my father passed away
@@martymcfly9232may Allah grant the higest level of jannah to your father iran is a beautiful country with a much beautifully history I would to vist Iran since I believe it is the ancestral home of the shashanshia people me and my family are in process of doing dna test and inshallah we will know more one day jazakallah brother
Very informative video and was not aware even the Pashtuns have a foot in east african coastal history. I disagree with the professors etymology of Mogadishu as most historians including our own banadiri historians have concluded that it was the seat of the “Shah” king in persian language. The inhabitants of Mogadishu spoke both Arabic as well as Persian. Many of these inhabitants of Mogadishu came from as far as Neyshabur, Khorasan, Shiraz. This is nothing unusual as all of the coastal city’s had direct connection with the rest of the ummah and gave allegiance to the Abbasid caliphate. banadir is plural for bandar (port) in persian language. We still have names in the coastal city’s of what is now somalia. For example Bandar Beyla and former Bandar Qasim now Bosaso. Also maqdishah is not the only name of a city that contains Shah in the banadir coast. We have GandarShah another historical coastal city. Which is not too far away from Mogadishah.
Mogadishu was founded by persians and arabs the name Moqadishu comes from the persians word Maq'ad-i-shah which teanslate to "seat of the king" the city was once puplated by an arab tribes called reer xamar they are descendants of persians and arabs they have their own culture and speak a different form of somali with their own dialect which is heavily influenced by arabic they used to live in the Moqadishu pre civil war most of the reer xamar people fled due to ethnic cleansing
You know Prof Abdulaziz discrimination and countering of has created a perpetual train of hatred I hear People tell Us to let go but should it be Us or the perpetual counters 🤔❤️
With full respect of this professor so i think many defrent people lived in banadir city but this people who calling themselfes banadir people nobody knows them until yesterday i mean after somalis civilwar happend
Banaadiri we have to to consider how they define themselves, that's respect of our diversity and our country, somalia its not for just somalis that's wrong , somalia is for everybody living it rightly, historically that's the one who own somalia
Brother can you make a video about our cousins from socotra there is a forgotten link between the banaadir people and the people of socotra both xamar and socotra used to be ruled by the same ruler in the past somalis today claim that socotra belongs to them but it never did socotra and xamar was once connected and i will go as far and say we share blood with them the people of socotra and the banaadir people where once one people
Lodhi??? Lodhi are Turkic tribes from Khorasan who migrated into India and Ibrahim Lodhi once ruled India. I wonder if the elder in this video may be of this people.
Congratulations for your great work of disseminating and reconstructing the history of the Banaadir and the East Coast of Africa. Without your interview, Prof. Abdulaziz Y. Lodi would have been known only to researchers. Many years ago, in some Bologna library fund, I read the testimony of an Italian who had been in Mogadishu towards the end of the 1800s or the beginning of the 1900s and wrote "In Mogadishu the most spoken language is Swahili but they write in Arabic". I was very struck by this description especially as the Italian came from the parts of Zanzibar and spoke Swahili. I looked for that document other times but I never found it again because I had lost its location. Now hearing an eminent scholar say that the Banaadir was a Swahili linguistic area I'm starting to think that it could really be so even if more research is needed.
Thank you for your comment
A lot of topics regarding Banadir still requires extensive research
that is bullshit sawahili is spoken in kenya not muqadisho somali is spoken in muqadisho there are small minority who speaks other languages in muqadisho they are descendants of immigrants who settled muqadisho from midle East india and few from kenyan tribes maybe you have mistaken muqdisho with mumbasa
Very insightful. Thank you for having Professor Lodhi on.
You’re most welcome Sir
MashaAllah brothet Kulrtein you doing great job for proserve and introduce our culture..
Excellent! This blows away Euro-centrism in language studies. Thanks.
MashaAllah. Very scintillating lecture. Very passionate in his field, full of infectious enthusiasm.
Very good professor !
Wonderfull interview
I used to believe like what the doctor here has said that either Oman or India and Persia had greatly contributed to the Islamization of East Africa but totally ignoring Ethiopia's contribution. Remember that the early Muslims had to flee to Ethiopia to escape persecution in Arabia and many who fled there settled in that part and never went back to Arabia. This is the source of Islamization of Africa because the Islamic sects of most of Africans aren't as those prevalent in Oman or India or Persia.
Shukran, bwana! Mimi nina asili ya kiirani na naishi Mombasa. Mke wangu atoka Hamar Weyne.
I assume you are Shashanshia i have heard the shashanshia people came from the Persian empire some 1600 years ago to xamar and they are the founders of xamar thought I csnt confirm it its just stories I have heard from the banaadir people if I'm not wrong shashanshia comes from the person word shāhanshāh which means king of Kings which is a title giving to the ruler of Persian empire Muqadishu comes from the persians word Maq'ad-i-shah which teanslate to "seat of the king" again a Persian name my guess is the shashanshia people came from the Persian empire and settled in the coast and build xamar later down the line the Arabs came to spread islam and they all became one community
Very intresting! I have also heard MAQAM ASH-SHAH. But I'm not from Somalia. I'm Iranian Iranian so to speak 🙂 But I consider myself to be Swahili since I was raised by a family from Lamu after my father passed away
Utakapokuja Mombasa safari nyingine ningefurahi sana kukukaribisha kwetu. Mungu akuweke salama!
@@martymcfly9232thanks brother may Allah grant you and your entire family which is best in this life and in the hereafter
@@martymcfly9232may Allah grant the higest level of jannah to your father iran is a beautiful country with a much beautifully history I would to vist Iran since I believe it is the ancestral home of the shashanshia people me and my family are in process of doing dna test and inshallah we will know more one day jazakallah brother
Very interesting
Thank you Mustafa Baana for your comment
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Banadir is an Arabic plural form of the Persian word bandar
Another informative program as usual. Jazakallah
Thank you for your comment once again, appreciated 🙏
Some foriegners in Somalia were jews while they claimed Yemens or Persians or Indians.
Are you somalis by now or you are still foriegn traders living in somalia?
Still forgeiners
What do you think?
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Very informative video and was not aware even the Pashtuns have a foot in east african coastal history. I disagree with the professors etymology of Mogadishu as most historians including our own banadiri historians have concluded that it was the seat of the “Shah” king in persian language. The inhabitants of Mogadishu spoke both Arabic as well as Persian. Many of these inhabitants of Mogadishu came from as far as Neyshabur, Khorasan, Shiraz. This is nothing unusual as all of the coastal city’s had direct connection with the rest of the ummah and gave allegiance to the Abbasid caliphate. banadir is plural for bandar (port) in persian language. We still have names in the coastal city’s of what is now somalia. For example Bandar Beyla and former Bandar Qasim now Bosaso. Also maqdishah is not the only name of a city that contains Shah in the banadir coast. We have GandarShah another historical coastal city. Which is not too far away from Mogadishah.
Mogadishu was founded by persians and arabs the name Moqadishu comes from the persians word Maq'ad-i-shah which teanslate to "seat of the king" the city was once puplated by an arab tribes called reer xamar they are descendants of persians and arabs they have their own culture and speak a different form of somali with their own dialect which is heavily influenced by arabic they used to live in the Moqadishu pre civil war most of the reer xamar people fled due to ethnic cleansing
So mogadishu is not even somali ,😂😂😂😂
These jilac folks can talk.
Why avoid the main issue here of Slavery???
Slavery wasn't based on race back then because there's no such thing as race.
The Invention of the white race by Theodore W. Allen
What do you call modern day debt? Same thing.
Esther 1:1
You know Prof Abdulaziz discrimination and countering of has created a perpetual train of hatred I hear People tell Us to let go but should it be Us or the perpetual counters 🤔❤️
With full respect of this professor so i think many defrent people lived in banadir city but this people who calling themselfes banadir people nobody knows them until yesterday i mean after somalis civilwar happend
The history of east African history without Arab n India slavery is a waste of time.
Who married with whose women?
Everyone is historian nowadays.
Go and relocate to kabul mr luudhi. You can re write history sxb.
Banaadiri we have to to consider how they define themselves, that's respect of our diversity and our country, somalia its not for just somalis that's wrong , somalia is for everybody living it rightly, historically that's the one who own somalia
No darling you are not somali if you have 0% blood of somali wake up
Brother can you make a video about our cousins from socotra there is a forgotten link between the banaadir people and the people of socotra both xamar and socotra used to be ruled by the same ruler in the past somalis today claim that socotra belongs to them but it never did socotra and xamar was once connected and i will go as far and say we share blood with them the people of socotra and the banaadir people where once one people
Lodhi??? Lodhi are Turkic tribes from Khorasan who migrated into India and Ibrahim Lodhi once ruled India. I wonder if the elder in this video may be of this people.