I love all the drama🍿🍿🍿. These will probably be the last consoles Microsoft release. Their priority DEFINITELY ain't the console market anymore. They lost that fight long ago
They can blame Phil for that. Yeah sure Jim Ryan kind of sucks but he makes sure there's always quality releases and trying to always push the systems forward. Xbox has been honestly what it feels like is there just fucking around not caring,as usual though. I mean damn xbox was great during the 360. Someone else needs to get in there cuz I like all systems but I still will not buy an Xbox for how they treat their product
It's inevitable people always start typing stuff I already address in the comments and accuse me of being one "fanboy" or another. I got Series X, PC, PS5, Switch, Meta Quest. I'm simply irritated because there's pretty much no reason to even have my Xbox currently and I remember when I was in a situation where I was locked to any individual one of those for the life of a console.
@@Landood I'm not calling you a fan boy. I never planned on going back to playstation after the OG xbox and 360. I will be getting a Xbox soon. I just chose to get the playstation first.
Again, I’ve maintained that, in isolation, a game releasing on Series X at 30FPS wouldn’t be that big of a deal. But with all their previous boasting about the “power of the 12TFLOPs,” Xbox PR themselves saying they wanted to “prioritize framerates” this generation, and the fact that Redfall doesn’t seem to be pushing any boundaries in visual fidelity so one would ASSUME that higher performance would be a lot EASIER to achieve, yea, this situation becomes ridiculous and further adds fuel to the narrative that Xbox’s “first-party” is straight up incompetent.
Man, I remember the fanboys talking about how the Series S would have better framerates than PS5 because it has a better CPU 😂😂😂 They were joking about how the PS5 should be competing with the Series S. Man, how time flies.
Unfortunate for gamers, microsoft har F..ed up every IP and studio they have ever touched since the original bungie halo.They are more concerned about business models and revenue than quality and creativity. They bury all aquired IPs with a giant thombstone on top. Rare studios IPs springs to mind. I fear for Elder scrolls and bethesda.
You are correct, it was even billed on xbox official sites at 60fps and was scrubbed shortly before their announcement this week. This is info I was made aware of after this went up. I simply wanted to mention the "creative decision" thing as many people are throwing out the "60fps is standard" comment without context in the same interview that contradicted that (including myself when speaking with my friends this week)
@@Landood yeah, I was agreeing with the video but commenting that if, say, Starfield came out at 30fps and the devs confirmed no 60fps then that would align with Phils "devs get to make their own decision". Cheers.
@@warawana I do agree Xbox as they are very hands-off in the studios and that they're allowed to do whatever they want but maybe they should have at least a minimum requirement for certain things like FPS or dropping the resolution if they can't get there
@@kubeanie18 I agree. But its not up to me. Gotta tell MS these things lol. If it were me I wouldn't let this game launch on consoles without a 60fps option. Just release the pc version.
Just slightly altered footnite graphics placed in Coldwar zombies with the zombies switched out for vampires, can't disguise shite, on the bright side I can give OG old 360 games more of the attention and respect they deserve.
I imagine Hellblade 2 and Starfield will be 30 fps. That would be less surprising than Redfall being 30. Maybe there will be a performance mode for those two.
It’s pretty apparent to me that I got this Xbox for nothing now. Games on gamepass will be more feature complete on pc it seems. It’s still a good deal if you grab and play several games from it per year but there are legit big dead periods depending on what you like to play.
Xbox series S is holding back the series X. It was seen from launch it was going to be this way unfortunately. I do agree this game should be able to run 60 no problems. Poor from Xbox
@@Landood Ah thanks I forgot about that lol. Still a shame a first party title doesn’t have 60fps at launch at this point, especially when it’s not cross-gen. Whatever the reason is, Microsoft dropped the ball on this one.
Plague Tale was 45 fps on Series X and that's a game that 30fps wouldn't matter as much, redfall is a first person shooter and has always been shown in 60fps ... this is a huge fail and xbox deserves all the hate of they ship this without 60fps. Something's wrong here as they could have went 1440p 60 on series x but it should handle 4k 60 with upscaling or even native with this shot running on unreal 4
all these gamers are not really there for the game they are there for the frame rates The Gamers of this generation are crazy they are like little whiny old women frame rates will be added later
not a creative decision when devs had live demos at 60 with content creators flown in... its just not stable enough to launch at 60 by release day. xbox first party just this year.(xbox is fine).. high on life not first party, hi-fi rush redfall forza starfield minecraft possibly hell-blade 2 late fall. compared to ps5 first party.... spiderman 2 only
Thing is tho - this is bad PR for Xbox. Sony is selling their PS5 at almost 2:1 for Series S and X combined. Microsoft is failing hard for their consoles. They have bought impressive studios yes, but the state which those studios push out their games is poor. MS cares about Gamepass and PC. I got a PS5 as their 1st party games are released with high quality and don't end up on PC. MS? Forget the consoles - I built a gaming PC so I can use brute force and mods to overcome the poor state that MS allows their 1st party titles to release in. There really is no need for them to make consoles anymore - as they really don't give 2 sht about the ppl who buy them.
While playstation says enjoy the games it's more powerful and faster then PS4. Enjoy our games. Xbox..strong console, 120 fps, greatest looking games ever even more so then playstation..games look shitty on Xbox lol
Putyin holding back 60fps in Ukraine. Stalker sure coming 30fps. If everybody working harder for peace . More games coming out 60:)) . USA guilty too making 30fps weapons, not peace for more developing Time:))
Most presentations are in the quality mode. Also for some reason PlayStation makes their stuff look worse than it is in person strangely. Tekken 8 has been reported to look much better in person than it did on the stream.
Bro are you serious? Do you know how 30 fps looks like?? That FFXVI was deff more than 30. Let's not throw shots at the competition just cause we getting ass frames
@@JuniorRomo23 Yeah, I watched the State Of Play immediately before this video. That was not 60 and not stable. The Aevum (sp?) gameplay was even worse. A stable 30 looks OK, but not great. I play mainly on PC so 120and up, not 30 or 60. Most (console) people have been claiming 30 was fine for decades. All of a sudden there is a renaissance. 😄
@@Landood I noticed Tekken 8 did not look quite there, either. The gameplay videos right after the initial Heihachi vs. Kazuya video didn't looks as smooth. I have faith in Namco because they have been hitting 60 fps steady & standard since '94.
I am a big xbox fan... If we don't let them know this is not acceptable, then every game they release will be 30 fps. If I wanted 4k @30fps I would use my xbox one X.
A shooter & racing games NEED 60fps for precision. If they have 30fps don't release the game.
60fps is not precision, that is base level. FPS should always be 90fps minimum
@@Dr_Dirk_Diggler 60 is more than good enough for any type of game
I love all the drama🍿🍿🍿. These will probably be the last consoles Microsoft release. Their priority DEFINITELY ain't the console market anymore. They lost that fight long ago
It truly does feel like they could bounce on consoles any minute.
They can blame Phil for that. Yeah sure Jim Ryan kind of sucks but he makes sure there's always quality releases and trying to always push the systems forward. Xbox has been honestly what it feels like is there just fucking around not caring,as usual though. I mean damn xbox was great during the 360. Someone else needs to get in there cuz I like all systems but I still will not buy an Xbox for how they treat their product
I like Xbox but how they go from no games to no frames? Come Xbox get it together yall got this
Bruh ☠️
I'm a playstation guy but xbox fans deserve better than what they are getting.
It's inevitable people always start typing stuff I already address in the comments and accuse me of being one "fanboy" or another. I got Series X, PC, PS5, Switch, Meta Quest. I'm simply irritated because there's pretty much no reason to even have my Xbox currently and I remember when I was in a situation where I was locked to any individual one of those for the life of a console.
@@Landood I'm not calling you a fan boy. I never planned on going back to playstation after the OG xbox and 360. I will be getting a Xbox soon. I just chose to get the playstation first.
Is anyone really surprised it's xbox, they do this all the time
It's Bethesda delay game or release at 30.. I say release it. More important to release the game. I'll play it on PC for now tell the patch
60 fps mode should be a standard for ps5 and series x
Again, I’ve maintained that, in isolation, a game releasing on Series X at 30FPS wouldn’t be that big of a deal.
But with all their previous boasting about the “power of the 12TFLOPs,” Xbox PR themselves saying they wanted to “prioritize framerates” this generation, and the fact that Redfall doesn’t seem to be pushing any boundaries in visual fidelity so one would ASSUME that higher performance would be a lot EASIER to achieve, yea, this situation becomes ridiculous and further adds fuel to the narrative that Xbox’s “first-party” is straight up incompetent.
Man, I remember the fanboys talking about how the Series S would have better framerates than PS5 because it has a better CPU 😂😂😂 They were joking about how the PS5 should be competing with the Series S. Man, how time flies.
To me X-Box is dead. R.I.P
Unfortunate for gamers, microsoft har F..ed up every IP and studio they have ever touched since the original bungie halo.They are more concerned about business models and revenue than quality and creativity. They bury all aquired IPs with a giant thombstone on top. Rare studios IPs springs to mind. I fear for Elder scrolls and bethesda.
What would happen to Elder Scrolls?
The difference is this game doesn't have a "creative decision" to be 30fps as they (Arkane) admit they are adding the 60fps mode later.
agreed all demos were at 60
You are correct, it was even billed on xbox official sites at 60fps and was scrubbed shortly before their announcement this week. This is info I was made aware of after this went up. I simply wanted to mention the "creative decision" thing as many people are throwing out the "60fps is standard" comment without context in the same interview that contradicted that (including myself when speaking with my friends this week)
@@Landood yeah, I was agreeing with the video but commenting that if, say, Starfield came out at 30fps and the devs confirmed no 60fps then that would align with Phils "devs get to make their own decision". Cheers.
@@warawana I do agree Xbox as they are very hands-off in the studios and that they're allowed to do whatever they want but maybe they should have at least a minimum requirement for certain things like FPS or dropping the resolution if they can't get there
@@kubeanie18 I agree. But its not up to me. Gotta tell MS these things lol. If it were me I wouldn't let this game launch on consoles without a 60fps option. Just release the pc version.
Just slightly altered footnite graphics placed in Coldwar zombies with the zombies switched out for vampires, can't disguise shite, on the bright side I can give OG old 360 games more of the attention and respect they deserve.
I’ve been waiting on some news on hellblade 2. I really hope it releases at 60 fps.
I wish it would. I’m just ASSUMING at this point it will be 30fps.
I imagine Hellblade 2 and Starfield will be 30 fps. That would be less surprising than Redfall being 30. Maybe there will be a performance mode for those two.
Just wait till E3.
@@jayg342 😂
I really hate it when people say "Games come out like this." No they don't. X-Box games come out like that, not games.
It’s pretty apparent to me that I got this Xbox for nothing now. Games on gamepass will be more feature complete on pc it seems. It’s still a good deal if you grab and play several games from it per year but there are legit big dead periods depending on what you like to play.
Xbox series S is holding back the series X. It was seen from launch it was going to be this way unfortunately. I do agree this game should be able to run 60 no problems. Poor from Xbox
This is unlikely to be a hardware issue. It cant be used as a scapegoat constantly
Even Valhalla was 60fps at launch 🤦🏾♂️🤣
Release date Nov 10th. Patched 3 weeks later to include performance mode on consoles.
@@Landood Ah thanks I forgot about that lol. Still a shame a first party title doesn’t have 60fps at launch at this point, especially when it’s not cross-gen. Whatever the reason is, Microsoft dropped the ball on this one.
Who cares if Burning Shores comes out perfect? Does it have everything you could ask for? Oh, it does, well just wait for E3.
Xbox series x needs to pull there finger out of there butt thank God I got a PS5 hahaha
Plague Tale was 45 fps on Series X and that's a game that 30fps wouldn't matter as much, redfall is a first person shooter and has always been shown in 60fps ... this is a huge fail and xbox deserves all the hate of they ship this without 60fps. Something's wrong here as they could have went 1440p 60 on series x but it should handle 4k 60 with upscaling or even native with this shot running on unreal 4
I mean if we can't even get 1080 60 as an option in 2023 for a game that looks like Redfall what are we even doin over there?
I have a hard time seeing the Series X being hard to develop for like PS3 was. It's basically a PC architecture. Nothing particularly exotic about it.
1 month coming 60fps patch. I think I wait . They dont want delay I think.
They confirmed 1 month? Where did they say that?
@@warawana nobody say that, but make performance Mode with 1080p 60fps on X ,only downgrading 4k . Is not a big work.
@@Gyuribacsik so you're just making dates up? Damn annoying trying to spread misinformation
all these gamers are not really there for the game
they are there for the frame rates
The Gamers of this generation are crazy
they are like little whiny old women
frame rates will be added later
Hellblade 2 bet not have only a 30fps mode and even Starfield Todd better work his magic
Your moustache reminds me of wagyu beef.
Do you enjoy Wagyu beef
not a creative decision when devs had live demos at 60 with content creators flown in... its just not stable enough to launch at 60 by release day.
xbox first party just this year.(xbox is fine).. high on life not first party, hi-fi rush redfall forza starfield minecraft possibly hell-blade 2 late fall.
compared to ps5 first party.... spiderman 2 only
Thing is tho - this is bad PR for Xbox. Sony is selling their PS5 at almost 2:1 for Series S and X combined. Microsoft is failing hard for their consoles. They have bought impressive studios yes, but the state which those studios push out their games is poor. MS cares about Gamepass and PC. I got a PS5 as their 1st party games are released with high quality and don't end up on PC. MS? Forget the consoles - I built a gaming PC so I can use brute force and mods to overcome the poor state that MS allows their 1st party titles to release in. There really is no need for them to make consoles anymore - as they really don't give 2 sht about the ppl who buy them.
While playstation says enjoy the games it's more powerful and faster then PS4. Enjoy our games. Xbox..strong console, 120 fps, greatest looking games ever even more so then playstation..games look shitty on Xbox lol
Putyin holding back 60fps in Ukraine. Stalker sure coming 30fps. If everybody working harder for peace . More games coming out 60:)) . USA guilty too making 30fps weapons, not peace for more developing Time:))
god i do not like the desing of these characters :V
Get a PC I guess, this is what MS are telling us with out saying it
None of that FFXVI footage was 60 fps. It didn't even look a stable 30 fps.
Most presentations are in the quality mode. Also for some reason PlayStation makes their stuff look worse than it is in person strangely. Tekken 8 has been reported to look much better in person than it did on the stream.
Bro are you serious? Do you know how 30 fps looks like?? That FFXVI was deff more than 30. Let's not throw shots at the competition just cause we getting ass frames
@@JuniorRomo23 Yeah, I watched the State Of Play immediately before this video. That was not 60 and not stable. The Aevum (sp?) gameplay was even worse.
A stable 30 looks OK, but not great. I play mainly on PC so 120and up, not 30 or 60. Most (console) people have been claiming 30 was fine for decades. All of a sudden there is a renaissance. 😄
@@Landood I noticed Tekken 8 did not look quite there, either. The gameplay videos right after the initial Heihachi vs. Kazuya video didn't looks as smooth. I have faith in Namco because they have been hitting 60 fps steady & standard since '94.
they showed 60 fps, 2k during Pax. Idk why you are coping so hard
I don't care if it's 720p at three frames at least we're getting a game, things are looking up at Xbox. 😁
A year of development per frame minimum.
I am a big xbox fan... If we don't let them know this is not acceptable, then every game they release will be 30 fps. If I wanted 4k @30fps I would use my xbox one X.