Wie wäre es, wenn ihr mal anständig die Werbetrommel rühren würdet? Dieser Channel hat gerade mal 106 Abonnenten und jedes Katzenvideo hat Faktor 1000 mehr Views... Dies wird einem so ambitionierten und zukunftsweisendem Projekt nicht gerecht! Es kann ja fast nicht sein, dass es nicht noch mehr Content gibt, den man online stellen könnte, oder?
In general I'm for leveraging subway systems for cargo/food delivery. I would like to see this investigated in other cities such as NYC, which have existing systems that are underused during overnight hours. But this is a new system will cost billions, yet only reduce delivery traffic by 30% at most (not 30% in -total- traffic reduction but 30% max reduction of delivery traffic, which is a smaller fraction of the overall traffic, so if delivery traffic is 10% this reduction is not much at all and does address the lion share of the traffic problem) - so this implies that the tunnels will fill up and max out immediately. Tunnels are fixed in location and inflexible and still require trucks from tunnel end points to delivery endpoints. Plus, no mention of using the tunnels for human transport which is the bulk of traffic. So they are spending billions to address just a small portion of the traffic. They claim only three options - which is bullshit and more of a branding, fake message implying that tunnels are the only innovative solution. They don't talk about other innovative solutions such as use of drones that are extremely flexible and point to point. They even say in the video there is an ever increase of small item delivery. They don't mention anything about route management for delivery traffic, consolidation of delivery traffic, etc. In NYC, I would see a UPS truck, FedEx truck, amazon truck and USPS truck on my street all at the same time, multiple companies delivering to the same block at the same time using different trucks. So consolidated deliveries would be yet another approach. Trucks are not always full due to delivery schedule commitments, and become more and more empty as they deliver their goods yet do not consolidate during their route, so by the afternoon each truck is near empty - reduce all the half empty trucks. Coordinated use of passenger vehicles could also be considered - the majority of vehicles are passenger vehicles with empty trunks driving to the same locations as the delivery trucks. These could be coordinated as well. Ride sharing is yet another mechanism. Stagger employee shift times to reduce rush hour. Truck only lanes, passenger only routes. Automated vehicles that use existing roads to transport people, goods or both are more flexible and would push technology in a direction that could be leveraged around the globe. You are not going to build tunnels in much of Africa or the US Midwest but they could use automated vehicles. Automated traffic control would manage traffic delivery times, manage congestion, provide for delivery windows outside of rush hours. Building tunnels is $$$$, inflexible, fixed, introduces very little, if any, new science or technology, fill up quickly, and has limited applicability or benefit that can be leveraged by the rest of the world. Tunnels still require trucks for moving goods to the final destination since you can't have a tunnel endpoint everywhere, in every store. Likewise, loading the tunnel transport requires trucks to deliver good to the tunnels from all the sources. Trucks need to pick up from multiple places, deliver to multiple places, pick up as well in some cases. The cost benefit of this plan does not look good. By the time they build the first fixed location tunnel, there will be automated trucks with the ability to automatically transfer goods from truck to truck, providing for a truck network for automated delivery to anywhere. This approach is about having super simple automated vehicles that can only work in a tunnel, tunnels that are fixed location and cost billions to make.
A lot of these issues are addressed in further information on their website. The fixed location is not a problem, neither is the consolidation, as the tunnels are to travel from a major warehousing distribution hub in an industrial area, to a central urban distribution hub; new tunnels can also be added. Cargo will be managed efficiently at each end, so yes trucks will be needed but they will be between specific producer and hub only, not all the way down the main highways and into tighter urban places. I'm not sure drones would be an effective solution when they're looking to tackle mass transit of cargo and bulk deliveries! It wouldn't be hard to configure full pallets of smaller, otherwise separate deliveries together once this is set up. Human transport is not being considered as part of keeping costs low is keeping it aesthetically basic and cargo needing lower health & safety and accessibility standards than people. In addition, there are already many options for public transport above ground, often forming a part of the traffic, so another passenger option is superfluous (this may be a difference to the US where I think public transport is limited?). Whilst their information doesn't go into detail about automated traffic control, I imagine there will be at least a standard automatic system in place as there are in many large warehouses and rail transport systems already. This is even easier with no passengers as the cargo won't get annoyed by a few minutes wait to let another pallet go first! Perhaps you should get a job with them? You clearly are eager to balance their costs out! I hope what I added helped but I've only gone off what they have posted too. Tbh if you're spending money very carefully, not drawing on the public purse much and having a large private investor, I feel like why the heck not do it!
@@hspurr5922 I agree that if this is fully funded in the private sector then investors who are willing to take the risk ought to be allowed to pursue this venture. I don't think the public ought to pay for this, except a small amount for government oversight. All the other issues I raised which you didn't address still stand...I hope the investors consider them in their risk analysis, and take appropriate precautions in their staged design and development.
@dave o, I was watching this video and thought to myself there are multiple ways of improving existing infrastructure such as improvements to rail services to handle cargo transport between cities. Combine that with investments in public transportation and you have multiple PROVEN methods of improving traffic situations ensuring the rapid transport of people and goods. The problem is those options aren't futuristic enough, don't have that many buzzwords, and don't have a big enough price tag. Why do relatively cheap proven options when we could do a massive unproven futuristic option.
These drones drive underground in tunnels. Advantage heavier loads, less risk of things crashing into buildings & wires, & less risk of things dropping on peoples heads.
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This is so epic! Please post updates from time to time.
Great project.
So is California's 12 year old 6 billion dollar bullet train to no where.
Wie wäre es, wenn ihr mal anständig die Werbetrommel rühren würdet? Dieser Channel hat gerade mal 106 Abonnenten und jedes Katzenvideo hat Faktor 1000 mehr Views... Dies wird einem so ambitionierten und zukunftsweisendem Projekt nicht gerecht! Es kann ja fast nicht sein, dass es nicht noch mehr Content gibt, den man online stellen könnte, oder?
No technical details - just a stupid advertisement.
In general I'm for leveraging subway systems for cargo/food delivery. I would like to see this investigated in other cities such as NYC, which have existing systems that are underused during overnight hours. But this is a new system will cost billions, yet only reduce delivery traffic by 30% at most (not 30% in -total- traffic reduction but 30% max reduction of delivery traffic, which is a smaller fraction of the overall traffic, so if delivery traffic is 10% this reduction is not much at all and does address the lion share of the traffic problem) - so this implies that the tunnels will fill up and max out immediately. Tunnels are fixed in location and inflexible and still require trucks from tunnel end points to delivery endpoints. Plus, no mention of using the tunnels for human transport which is the bulk of traffic. So they are spending billions to address just a small portion of the traffic.
They claim only three options - which is bullshit and more of a branding, fake message implying that tunnels are the only innovative solution. They don't talk about other innovative solutions such as use of drones that are extremely flexible and point to point. They even say in the video there is an ever increase of small item delivery.
They don't mention anything about route management for delivery traffic, consolidation of delivery traffic, etc. In NYC, I would see a UPS truck, FedEx truck, amazon truck and USPS truck on my street all at the same time, multiple companies delivering to the same block at the same time using different trucks. So consolidated deliveries would be yet another approach. Trucks are not always full due to delivery schedule commitments, and become more and more empty as they deliver their goods yet do not consolidate during their route, so by the afternoon each truck is near empty - reduce all the half empty trucks.
Coordinated use of passenger vehicles could also be considered - the majority of vehicles are passenger vehicles with empty trunks driving to the same locations as the delivery trucks. These could be coordinated as well. Ride sharing is yet another mechanism. Stagger employee shift times to reduce rush hour. Truck only lanes, passenger only routes.
Automated vehicles that use existing roads to transport people, goods or both are more flexible and would push technology in a direction that could be leveraged around the globe. You are not going to build tunnels in much of Africa or the US Midwest but they could use automated vehicles. Automated traffic control would manage traffic delivery times, manage congestion, provide for delivery windows outside of rush hours.
Building tunnels is $$$$, inflexible, fixed, introduces very little, if any, new science or technology, fill up quickly, and has limited applicability or benefit that can be leveraged by the rest of the world. Tunnels still require trucks for moving goods to the final destination since you can't have a tunnel endpoint everywhere, in every store. Likewise, loading the tunnel transport requires trucks to deliver good to the tunnels from all the sources. Trucks need to pick up from multiple places, deliver to multiple places, pick up as well in some cases.
The cost benefit of this plan does not look good. By the time they build the first fixed location tunnel, there will be automated trucks with the ability to automatically transfer goods from truck to truck, providing for a truck network for automated delivery to anywhere. This approach is about having super simple automated vehicles that can only work in a tunnel, tunnels that are fixed location and cost billions to make.
A lot of these issues are addressed in further information on their website. The fixed location is not a problem, neither is the consolidation, as the tunnels are to travel from a major warehousing distribution hub in an industrial area, to a central urban distribution hub; new tunnels can also be added. Cargo will be managed efficiently at each end, so yes trucks will be needed but they will be between specific producer and hub only, not all the way down the main highways and into tighter urban places. I'm not sure drones would be an effective solution when they're looking to tackle mass transit of cargo and bulk deliveries! It wouldn't be hard to configure full pallets of smaller, otherwise separate deliveries together once this is set up.
Human transport is not being considered as part of keeping costs low is keeping it aesthetically basic and cargo needing lower health & safety and accessibility standards than people. In addition, there are already many options for public transport above ground, often forming a part of the traffic, so another passenger option is superfluous (this may be a difference to the US where I think public transport is limited?).
Whilst their information doesn't go into detail about automated traffic control, I imagine there will be at least a standard automatic system in place as there are in many large warehouses and rail transport systems already. This is even easier with no passengers as the cargo won't get annoyed by a few minutes wait to let another pallet go first!
Perhaps you should get a job with them? You clearly are eager to balance their costs out! I hope what I added helped but I've only gone off what they have posted too. Tbh if you're spending money very carefully, not drawing on the public purse much and having a large private investor, I feel like why the heck not do it!
@@hspurr5922 I agree that if this is fully funded in the private sector then investors who are willing to take the risk ought to be allowed to pursue this venture. I don't think the public ought to pay for this, except a small amount for government oversight. All the other issues I raised which you didn't address still stand...I hope the investors consider them in their risk analysis, and take appropriate precautions in their staged design and development.
@dave o, I was watching this video and thought to myself there are multiple ways of improving existing infrastructure such as improvements to rail services to handle cargo transport between cities. Combine that with investments in public transportation and you have multiple PROVEN methods of improving traffic situations ensuring the rapid transport of people and goods. The problem is those options aren't futuristic enough, don't have that many buzzwords, and don't have a big enough price tag. Why do relatively cheap proven options when we could do a massive unproven futuristic option.
It's just a gadgetbahn. It's like a train but worse
wow. sounds like the biggest project, since the beginning of XXI century.
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What happened to using drones for delivery?
These drones drive underground in tunnels. Advantage heavier loads, less risk of things crashing into buildings & wires, & less risk of things dropping on peoples heads.
@@1jimjon and 1000x more $$$.
Mountains and bad weather - wind and snow.
@@HDnatureTV weak.
@@HDnatureTV Weak. Cut a tunnel for all traffic as is done today.