Just came back from the dentist, might be slow to answer your questions. Time Stamps: Intro 00:00 Backup 00:53 Firmware Update 01:52 Restore memory 03:13 Installing the module 04:03 Binding 04:55 Reset the steering mid point 06:06 Setup end points 07:22 Testing response time 08:18 Conclusion 09:22
Backwards compatibility would be a dream come true with the Noble, I have dozens of the AFHDS receivers and older Mini Z that I run on my hacked GT3C's and GT3B's.
I finally went ahead and got this set up with my Mini-Z. Feels so much nicer now using an actual quality transmitter with my buggy. Thanks for this highly detailed video!
I was fortunate to have .100 firmware installed in my Noble NB4 when I bought it. All I had to do was install the FS-RM005 module and bind the receiver. The steering trim was too far off to use the method you stated, so I reset the steering trim using the instructions from Kyosho below: Make sure that the transmitter is powered off. Make sure that the steering trim knob is at the center. Power on the chassis. Set the front wheels to the center with your fingers. Push and hold the pairing button on the chassis for three seconds. Power on the transmitter. The neutral position should have been corrected.
Thank you for your help. I was able to update my remote and Bind it to my Mini Z Suzuki Jimmy. I will find my steering next but I will save that for tomorrow.
Super informative video - thanks a lot for spending the time to make it. We are new to Mini-Z ready set RWD and at some point we def want to upgrade the remote and further down to evo - this video helped a lot to convince me that Flysky noble is the way to go
@@BeaversHobby i manage to get the board from banzaihobby. was thinking either wait out for kt432 or update to fhss... in the end made the decision to update lol banzaihobby price is quite reasonable plus shipping for us here in SEA
@@BeaversHobby I’ve been watching your videos for a long time now, got a bunch of the 1/28 scale stuff, wltoys,firelap but I keep coming back to mini z. Been doing minis since Back in the radio shack xmod days. Thanks for the awesome content
Yes, you'll have to bind it manually. It should have a shortcut or jump to bind easier after changing the protocol though. That'll make things a bit more streamline.
Thanks for this video, getting back into the RF hobby and have ordered the module and transmitter based on your recommendation. Just curious, can you reduce the reverse delay on the standard (non evo) mini z’s with the NB4 transmitter?
Yes, the procedure is the same. If your NB4 already has a newer firmware then it'll work without having to update the transmitter. Just insert the RM-005 module and bind it to your car.
Sir thank you for this video. if i may ask you. Will this chip work with MR03 mini z if the Flysky radio has the latest Software update which i believe Ver 2.0.102 That came with remote today when you buy the radio. Or do i have to downgrade it to specific version of software as v mention on this video In order for this chip to work?
Yes, it will work with any Mini-Z FHSS version (basically all the current ones) including MR03. If you have a newer firmware than 2.0.93 it will work with the module already. No need to downgrade.
thanks for the guide. however, do you have any problems of turning? i seems to have a problem turning after pairing with the NB4 controller. any suggestions of how i can correct it?
What kind of problem do you have? Is it stuck or stuttering when turn? I got the off-centre neutral which I showed how to fix in this video then I only set the EPA so it steers equally to both sides and that's pretty much it. No further issue?
@@BeaversHobby I don't think it's stuck, but i only have limited steeling to the right after pairing to the NB4. I turn the steeling on my controller profile to 120 already and it still cant turn right properly.
Question about Binding Mini-z with my NB4: I have three Mini-z cars. I assigned each car to a slot and gave it a name (Car1, Car2, Car3, etc) I then set the freq for each car to Miniz-FHSS. - I selected car1 and went through the binding process - success; I then turned off the car, selected car2, and did the binding. Then finally the 3rd car. - I tested each car - no problem; except when I had two cars powered on at the same time they both ran and responded to the transmitter. Is this normal?
@@MrBiscuit_WithButter Yes, it is. You will need more transmitters if you want to run them at the same time. Well, even if it has assigned ID it will ask you to turn the car off before switching the model or turning the transmitter off anyway.
No, it can't. NB4 is the new AFHDS3 protocol and this RM-005 module is to add the new Mini-Z Kyosho FHSS protocol to it. The only transmitters that will work with old FHS are either the old Flysky like modded GT3B, GT3C to have 4 channels, iT4S or Kyosho 432PT.
That depends on the Mini-Z version. If it's the standard Mini-Z FHSS with white antenna, you only need the module. If you are using it with Mini-Z EVO, the one that can install a receiver. You will need only the NB4 receiver for Mini-Z EVO (yellow antenna) and not the module.
I don't really have a particular setting for the transmitter. Just set the EPA so it won't ruin the servo, decrease the throttle dual rate or forward rate if you feel it's too fast. That's it. I do all the setup on the car like front oneway, front soft spring and rear hard spring to make it more snappy when turning.
Good day to all, I need help I just bought a Flysky Noble 4 with MR005 for my Mini z Evo 030, the Noble 4 came with a newer version 2.0.100 that prevented me from binding my mini z with the new transmitter??? Anyone knows what to do now?
You will need to update the EVO receiver (in case you use the yellow antenna for AFHDS 3 protocol with native NB4). Here's how. It's the same as using GMR receiver. You just need to choose the Mini-Z EVO instead. ua-cam.com/video/SjJkjXrSVI0/v-deo.html Anyway, you don't need the RM005 for EVO, you can just use the native NB4 receiver for it for better connection. I believe it's what you have. Otherwise the firmware won't matter if you use the RM005 with EVO because it will be in Mini-Z FHSS (white antenna) mode.
I just bound my Noble 4 with Mini-Z MR-03. Thank you for this post! Quick question: Am I automatically in the non-training mode when it's bound? I was wondering if there is a way to toggle training modes from Noble 4. Thanks!
It's automatically non-training when you are using other transmitter. The training mode is basically the stock radio limits the throttle on itself and not the car which you can also do it here via EPA or dual rates.
I’m thinking of getting a mini z ma-020 at some point with the KT-531P. Will this tx work with it out of the box or will I need to replace the Rex module? Or will it only work with the ma-030? Really new to the mini z world
You'll need to install the additional module as in this video. All the FHSS (white antenna) are the same, MA-020, MR-03, FWD MA-03F (basically 030 without rear drive), etc. As for MA-030, you are talking about the EVO, I presume? The EVO needs a receiver board and it will work with NB4 directly using the AFHDS3 (Noble) receiver.
Nice video thank you. Do you need to remove the module in order to run non mini z or is it simply a matter of selecting the correct frequency? For instance I use my NB4 for my xray buggies and on road cars. If I install the module to run my miniz will I need to then remove the module to use my xrays again or will they work as before as long as I have the correct frequency selected?
No need to to remove the module when you are not using it. It will only activate when you select the Mini-Z FHSS. Leave it in, it won't conflict with any of your receivers. Just don't forget to update the receivers if you come from the firmware older than 2.0.93.
Awesome Video!! I have a question regarding the lights that can be installed in the Mini-Z. Can the lights be controlled with the Flysky Noble NB4? Can they be selected to turn On/Off, and do the Rapid On/Off feature ?
Of course, it can. But note that the default Ch4 is on switch SW1R, so you better reassign it to variable VR1, TR3 or TR4. Kyosho doesn't support switching on/off of the light, just permanent on, blinking rapidly, then blinking slowly.
Unfortunately, no. Moto racer uses KT-19 and it's the old Flysky AFHDS protocol. You can use any old Flysky transmitter like GT3C but you'll need to mod it to 4 channel. Otherwise RadioMaster MT12 4-in-1 multiprotocol version or any multiprotocol transmitter will work.
I noticed it on my MR03 too. I think some of the gears are loose. MR03 has an upgrade from PN but I don't know about MA020. Either that or you can check the servo saver inside if that's loose.
@@BeaversHobby i have upgraded the axle shafts and changed to locked diffs. the slop seems to be between the wheel nut and wheel i might 3dprint some 0.2mm shims to try and eliminate the slop.
@@TheIllestMVP In that case it's normal. You'll need some wheel shims for that. The inner diameter is 3mm with outer 4.5 to 5mm. Something like this. www.miracle-mart.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67_74_1020_1023&products_id=13815
Please help me! I followed your guide, installed the fhss module and updated the firmware but I can't bind my mini-z evo! I have the specific module for noble! What can I do?
The EVO receiver for Noble (yellow antenna) is AFHDS 3 and you'll need to update the receiver before you can use it with 2.0.99. The method is almost like GMR where you press and hold the bind button then turn the car on, keep holding it until you got 3 slow blinks + 1 pause then you can update the receiver. I got the video for GMR here ua-cam.com/video/SjJkjXrSVI0/v-deo.html . EVO can be updated from the radio directly and doesn't need a PC but it's the same method to initiate the forced update mode.
Added. Thanks. The current firmware is 2.0.100. If you want 2.0.99 I have a backup here drive.google.com/file/d/1bDK66TPo42n9jLhHQCXl76Zu6o8ajopd/view?usp=sharing
You can bind multiple cars to a single transmitter. But if you turn the cars on the same time, they will all work off the same control. I'm not sure what you want to do here. Do you want both cars to be on while switching the model memory and drive them one by one? Or to have one transmitter to drive one car and the other to drive another one and run at the same time?
@@robertshelton2605 I see. Unfortunately, Mini-Z don't have that feature. There're some protocols that support the 2-way communication with model ID. But even if you have that whenever you try to switch the model or turn the transmitter off without turning the car off first, a warning will pop up. It's not safe to left the car on without connecting to a transmitter either.
Hey great video, I also bought the flysky noble nb4 mainly for my mini-z but i have this weird problem that my pc (Windows 10) cant find my reciever (only as a gaming controller) when i plug the USB in. So i cant update to the newest version 2.0.99 for the FHSS mini-z, any suggestions or tips?
You'll need to put the transmitter into firmware update mode after plugging it in. Go to System and scroll down to Firmware Update. Follow the instruction from 2:19 and you'll be able to get it into that mode.
@@BeaversHobby thank you for your time and the answer but i tried that and did it exactly like you showed it in the video and the firmware updater cant detect/find my transmitter
@@BeaversHobby hey, so I got it. This was the only thing that helped I plugged the transmitter in my pc via USB, put it in the firmware update mode restarted my pc and only than could the firmware updater programm detect/find my transmitter to update it. THANKS again would not have tried this without you pointing out the update mode!!!
Zero the trim on the transmitter, instead of using trim on the transmitter to make it go straight move the wheels by hands first and reset the trim. Then you can fine tune or adjust it with the trim on the transmitter.
I have a MA-030 with RA-41 receiver (white antenna same as your video I suppose)and NB4 transmitter, I was trying to set the neutral steering position and follow exactly the step in the video, but no matter how long I hold the paring button the LED won’t blink and the rest process couldn’t start at all, I’m pretty sure I was doing it correctly, because it works on my 4x4. Could you give me some advise about how to solve this issue or any other way to reset everything? Thank you so much!
My only trick is be sure to turn the transmitter off and turn only the car on before you hold the button to reset the steering. If it still won't blink then you can try and re-bind again (to make sure the button is working) and then reset the steering. Here's the original article. kyosho.com/mini-z-info/ufaqs/how-can-i-reset-the-neutral-position-of-mini-z-sportsrwdfwd-chassis/
@@BeaversHobby Thank you for the reply. I also re-binded the car and transmitter multiple times and have no problem with it, but when setting the neutral, the LED still won't blink. I wrote a mail to Kyosho, they told me: the steering reset only works on the Sports (Blue antenna) or RWD/AWD/4X4 (White antenna) boards, and if I want to reset the "Pro" or brushless boards I will need to use the ICS cable, which makes me confused, because you did it with MA030/white anteena/NB4 in you video.
@@Poiqweko Sorry for earlier. I didn't check that the RA-41 meant that it is the EVO series. It is as Kyosho answered you. You need the ICS adapter to adjust the neutral position on EVO (and ASF/MHS) cars. My car is a FWD converted to AWD so it has the standard FHSS board, not the EVO.
@@BeaversHobby ohhh, thank you so much, this clear out all the confusion for me, I will get a ICS ASAP. You are being so helpful and patient to me, thank you again!
Yes, you will need to install your own ESC and it'll work with 284131 or any car for that matter. Mini-Z is just a bit special (in not a very good way) that has everything on one circuit board.
It depends on what you are after. The performance is the same between NB4 and MT12 ELRS version. NB4 is much easier to use but MT12 is more versatile. For small scale like 1/28 and 1/24 NB4 is better because it has micro receivers. Until ELRS has micro receivers with JST-ZH plug, I'll stay with NB4. MT12 is also a complete package out of the box with carrying case so I can take it outside easily. If I can only buy one, I'll buy the MT12 ELRS version. It's cheaper and more future proof with expansion module. The receivers are cheap (half the price of NB4) as well.
@@fluffynl3390 Nice! 4-in-1 is really good especially when you mainly use it with Mini-Z and stuffs. You can install an external ELRS module later if you need the low latency connection. I did the opposite though. I got the ELRS then install an external 4-in-1 module. Basically both will do the same.
If your MA-020 is the current one with white antenna (FHSS) then yes, it'll work. Here I use it with my MA-020 too. ua-cam.com/video/Fjf6OyheR5A/v-deo.html
If you run a kit car, yes, you should use the small receiver. For Mini-Z everything is integrated into 1 board so you only need to add the module to the transmitter, update the firmware and it'll work.
@@BeaversHobby we live in 2021, an era where open tx, at least as regards some applications, is capable of replicating almost all protocols, we must also think that for a company like flysky, the production or development costs for a chip of the kind would be small, what I say is: if they already do it with drones, why not do it also with other types of remote controls? now it is enough to have an entrance where to mount an external module and that's it. just think of the Stick remote controls, which can mount protocols such as iRangeX or Ghost
@@michelesgarra3340 I fully understand when comparing with drone the cars are lacking behind in terms of new tech and OpenTX. However the multiprotocol isn't something the cars need because we always have enough space for a receiver. There aren't any hi-profile all-in-one boards except Kyosho Mini-Z and they already have their partners, KOPropo for ASF (and the KO Next which will come out later) and Flysky for FHSS & AFHDS 3. Also a proprietary transmitter-receiver connection is faster than going through a multiprotocol module in PPM mode. I've tested this before in my multiprotocol car transmitter. Also it's quite clunky when having to attach a module. Although a very nice idea and very nice if any manufacture would make one, I don't think it would catch on that much.
Hi. Your pairing light seems to still blink rapidly after you release the button. While mine seems to blink rapidly only when i still press the button, and will be back to blink slowly once i stop pressing the button. What is the cause? Do i need to update the receiver firmware? I couldn’t bind my fhss mini-z.
Try and put the radio in bind mode before the car and see if it binds. The slow blink means the car is bound to a transmitter so if it works after that then it is ok. The slow blink immediately after releasing the button comes from the car finding a transmitter in bind mode right at that moment. You don't need to update the receiver on Mini-Z RTR though. I've tried that and it did nothing. But if it's EVO, do it just to be safe.
@@BeaversHobby Finally i was able to bind both of my mini-z. I kept on trying like probably more than 20 times LoL. Thanks man 👍 By the way it would be great if you can share a video on how upgrading the mini-z receiver. All the best to you!
@@cosmo7c Glad you got it working. I recently found out that there isn't a way to upgrade the receiver on Mini-Z FHSS (doesn't seem to need it either) but only on the AFHDS 3 in EVO. It's the same method as GMR which I'll do a video later.
@@crazylegz21010 Yes, all the new cars with white antenna have this same protocol. So if you buy one that the box says RWD, FWD, AWD, Buggy or 4x4 it will work with Noble + RM-005 module.
@@crazylegz21010 AWD is the one you need. It will also work well outside the track and on regular home floor. If you have thick carpet, take a look at the buggy as well. I'll be much bigger but the ground clearance is much better.
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Just came back from the dentist, might be slow to answer your questions.
Time Stamps:
Intro 00:00
Backup 00:53
Firmware Update 01:52
Restore memory 03:13
Installing the module 04:03
Binding 04:55
Reset the steering mid point 06:06
Setup end points 07:22
Testing response time 08:18
Conclusion 09:22
Hello, do you have tips to change this nb4 hand grip to the larger one equipped within its package?
@@andykasim5922 Pry the old one out gently. You will see the seam between the handle and the grip. It's pretty hard to do so I ended up didn't do it.
Backwards compatibility would be a dream come true with the Noble, I have dozens of the AFHDS receivers and older Mini Z that I run on my hacked GT3C's and GT3B's.
I finally went ahead and got this set up with my Mini-Z. Feels so much nicer now using an actual quality transmitter with my buggy. Thanks for this highly detailed video!
Amazing! I was scared of updating the firmware, but with this vid, im motivated! Thanks!!
Very helpful, thank you for making this video.
I was fortunate to have .100 firmware installed in my Noble NB4 when I bought it. All I had to do was install the FS-RM005 module and bind the receiver. The steering trim was too far off to use the method you stated, so I reset the steering trim using the instructions from Kyosho below:
Make sure that the transmitter is powered off.
Make sure that the steering trim knob is at the center.
Power on the chassis.
Set the front wheels to the center with your fingers.
Push and hold the pairing button on the chassis for three seconds.
Power on the transmitter. The neutral position should have been corrected.
Thank you for your help. I was able to update my remote and Bind it to my Mini Z Suzuki Jimmy. I will find my steering next but I will save that for tomorrow.
A huge thank you for sharing the infos. Love it. Cheers
Thank you!! my module arrived yesterday and your video was extremely helpful...Love your channel.
Super informative video - thanks a lot for spending the time to make it. We are new to Mini-Z ready set RWD and at some point we def want to upgrade the remote and further down to evo - this video helped a lot to convince me that Flysky noble is the way to go
Saved me a ton of time to work out. Thank you so much!
i have the same desire as you to control FHS as well! but end up i upgrade my FHS to FHSS board and now waiting my nb4 in mail.
GREAT VIDEO BEAVER!
I was thinking about the board upgrade but the price of the board alone kind of put me off and my FHS still refuses to die. 😆
@@BeaversHobby i manage to get the board from banzaihobby. was thinking either wait out for kt432 or update to fhss... in the end made the decision to update lol banzaihobby price is quite reasonable plus shipping for us here in SEA
Great tip on the mid point! thank you for asking Flysky for 2A compatibility, I hope they listen
Hopefully so. I asked them for AFHDS, AFHDS 2A and Mini-Z FHS. This might take some time but the hardware is already here. We only need the software.
Thanks for this video! I bought the flysky + the module after this video😎
great video. thank you for asking for the backwards compatibility also, the first thing I thought of when I got my Noble a while ago.
+1 for AFHDS backwards compatibility! I think they’re waiting for us to upgrade all of our receivers before offering it..
You are awesome. I learn a lot from you..
I wish there were a module for AFHDS1, so I could use all my cheap Flysky 3 channel receivers with the NB4.
Thank you so much for this video. It helped me a lot.
Thanks so much for this video man. Amazing content as always! :)
this is amazing will have to pick up one today !
Great! very helpful footage. thanks for share
Thank You for this!
Wow! I didn't expect the ETA PRIME to play Mini-Z too. Thanks to you I now have a retro console that suites my need.
YO ETA ON MINIZ LETSGOOO
@@BeaversHobby I’ve been watching your videos for a long time now, got a bunch of the 1/28 scale stuff, wltoys,firelap but I keep coming back to mini z. Been doing minis since Back in the radio shack xmod days. Thanks for the awesome content
@@ETAPRIME Always a pleasure.
Awesome video Beaver👍🏻
Thanks, great instructions !
nice video man! very detailed :)
I did have to manually start the Binding in the radio by the way (?)
But.. it does then work :)
Yes, you'll have to bind it manually. It should have a shortcut or jump to bind easier after changing the protocol though. That'll make things a bit more streamline.
Good job👍👍
Wonder if this will work also on Atomic AMZ's stock AIO ESC and RX FHSS protocol?
Unfortunately no, it won't.
@@BeaversHobby shish! Good to know Beaver! Thanks!
Thanks for this video, getting back into the RF hobby and have ordered the module and transmitter based on your recommendation. Just curious, can you reduce the reverse delay on the standard (non evo) mini z’s with the NB4 transmitter?
Unfortunately, no. The reverse delay is on the ESC programming that you'll have to do via I.C.S. adapter.
@@BeaversHobby Thank you, appreciate the reply. Does the ICS adapter work with the non evo mini z’s?
Sorry @Beaver’s Hobby, what I thought was reverse delay was actually my contacts needing to be tightened.
@@thetwowheeledintrovert3367 It only works for EVO and ASF/MHS. The Sports and RWD/AWD/FWD FHSS don't have programming.
@@thetwowheeledintrovert3367 Glad you got it working!
I purchased my mini z it arrived yesterday fantastic! I got a ready set in AWD is this the same set up I need to do
Yes, the procedure is the same. If your NB4 already has a newer firmware then it'll work without having to update the transmitter. Just insert the RM-005 module and bind it to your car.
Sir thank you for this video. if i may ask you. Will this chip work with MR03 mini z if the Flysky radio has the latest Software update which i believe Ver 2.0.102 That came with remote today when you buy the radio. Or do i have to downgrade it to specific version of software as v mention on this video In order for this chip to work?
Yes, it will work with any Mini-Z FHSS version (basically all the current ones) including MR03. If you have a newer firmware than 2.0.93 it will work with the module already. No need to downgrade.
thanks for the guide. however, do you have any problems of turning? i seems to have a problem turning after pairing with the NB4 controller. any suggestions of how i can correct it?
What kind of problem do you have? Is it stuck or stuttering when turn?
I got the off-centre neutral which I showed how to fix in this video then I only set the EPA so it steers equally to both sides and that's pretty much it. No further issue?
@@BeaversHobby I don't think it's stuck, but i only have limited steeling to the right after pairing to the NB4. I turn the steeling on my controller profile to 120 already and it still cant turn right properly.
@@johnsonlai1181 Then you'll need to reset the steering mid point and try adjusting the EPA again. Skip to 06:06 to see how to do it.
Great video! Tks
Question about Binding Mini-z with my NB4: I have three Mini-z cars. I assigned each car to a slot and gave it a name (Car1, Car2, Car3, etc) I then set the freq for each car to Miniz-FHSS.
- I selected car1 and went through the binding process - success; I then turned off the car, selected car2, and did the binding. Then finally the 3rd car.
- I tested each car - no problem; except when I had two cars powered on at the same time they both ran and responded to the transmitter. Is this normal?
Yes, that is normal. Mini-Z FHSS doesn't have 2-way or ID lock so it will be able to drive all the cars at once.
@@BeaversHobby Thanks, It Sounds like it is not a Transmitter limitation but a limitation of the Miniz-FHSS receiver.
@@MrBiscuit_WithButter Yes, it is. You will need more transmitters if you want to run them at the same time. Well, even if it has assigned ID it will ask you to turn the car off before switching the model or turning the transmitter off anyway.
Can you bind the NB4 to the Mini-Z Sports with the FHS protocol? As I understand, the FHS protocol is based on the AFHDS?
No, it can't. NB4 is the new AFHDS3 protocol and this RM-005 module is to add the new Mini-Z Kyosho FHSS protocol to it. The only transmitters that will work with old FHS are either the old Flysky like modded GT3B, GT3C to have 4 channels, iT4S or Kyosho 432PT.
Looking at setting up my mini z on my NB4 -Do I need a micro receiver also or just the module?
That depends on the Mini-Z version. If it's the standard Mini-Z FHSS with white antenna, you only need the module.
If you are using it with Mini-Z EVO, the one that can install a receiver. You will need only the NB4 receiver for Mini-Z EVO (yellow antenna) and not the module.
Do you have any specific settings on the controller for drifting a AWD
MA020 specifically.
I don't really have a particular setting for the transmitter. Just set the EPA so it won't ruin the servo, decrease the throttle dual rate or forward rate if you feel it's too fast. That's it. I do all the setup on the car like front oneway, front soft spring and rear hard spring to make it more snappy when turning.
Is it possible to bind Noble NB4 with mini-z buggy MB-010 VE 2.0? What are this buggy compatible transmitters?
That is the version with FHSS receiver, right? If so you can do the same as in this video: install the RM-005 module and you will be able to use it.
Good day to all, I need help I just bought a Flysky Noble 4 with MR005 for my Mini z Evo 030, the Noble 4 came with a newer version 2.0.100 that prevented me from binding my mini z with the new transmitter??? Anyone knows what to do now?
You will need to update the EVO receiver (in case you use the yellow antenna for AFHDS 3 protocol with native NB4). Here's how. It's the same as using GMR receiver. You just need to choose the Mini-Z EVO instead. ua-cam.com/video/SjJkjXrSVI0/v-deo.html
Anyway, you don't need the RM005 for EVO, you can just use the native NB4 receiver for it for better connection. I believe it's what you have. Otherwise the firmware won't matter if you use the RM005 with EVO because it will be in Mini-Z FHSS (white antenna) mode.
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I just bound my Noble 4 with Mini-Z MR-03. Thank you for this post! Quick question: Am I automatically in the non-training mode when it's bound? I was wondering if there is a way to toggle training modes from Noble 4. Thanks!
It's automatically non-training when you are using other transmitter.
The training mode is basically the stock radio limits the throttle on itself and not the car which you can also do it here via EPA or dual rates.
@@BeaversHobby Thanks for your quick reply !
I’m thinking of getting a mini z ma-020 at some point with the KT-531P. Will this tx work with it out of the box or will I need to replace the Rex module? Or will it only work with the ma-030? Really new to the mini z world
You'll need to install the additional module as in this video. All the FHSS (white antenna) are the same, MA-020, MR-03, FWD MA-03F (basically 030 without rear drive), etc. As for MA-030, you are talking about the EVO, I presume? The EVO needs a receiver board and it will work with NB4 directly using the AFHDS3 (Noble) receiver.
Nice video thank you. Do you need to remove the module in order to run non mini z or is it simply a matter of selecting the correct frequency? For instance I use my NB4 for my xray buggies and on road cars. If I install the module to run my miniz will I need to then remove the module to use my xrays again or will they work as before as long as I have the correct frequency selected?
No need to to remove the module when you are not using it. It will only activate when you select the Mini-Z FHSS. Leave it in, it won't conflict with any of your receivers. Just don't forget to update the receivers if you come from the firmware older than 2.0.93.
@@BeaversHobby outstanding and thank you for the info. I just ordered the module.
@@mysticaldragon2740 My pleasure.
Awesome Video!!
I have a question regarding the lights that can be installed in the Mini-Z. Can the lights be controlled with the Flysky Noble NB4?
Can they be selected to turn On/Off, and do the Rapid On/Off feature ?
Of course, it can. But note that the default Ch4 is on switch SW1R, so you better reassign it to variable VR1, TR3 or TR4. Kyosho doesn't support switching on/off of the light, just permanent on, blinking rapidly, then blinking slowly.
Hi. It's been a long time.
Can we use the steering reset method for other radio transmitter and receiver also? Like Radiolink for example.
Thanks.
Unfortunately, no. This method is only for Mini-Z FHSS and FHS.
Gogogo nb4
In RX Set, what is "Steering Force" changing? I set it to 0 and to 100, doesnt seem to make a difference.
I don't feel any difference either.
I figured you would be the guy to ask…. Can I bind my mini Z moto racer to the noble nb4?
Unfortunately, no. Moto racer uses KT-19 and it's the old Flysky AFHDS protocol. You can use any old Flysky transmitter like GT3C but you'll need to mod it to 4 channel. Otherwise RadioMaster MT12 4-in-1 multiprotocol version or any multiprotocol transmitter will work.
@@BeaversHobby thank you! I’ll probably just keep the kt-19 for it, for now!
My mini z ma020 has excessive wheel slop is that normal on these kyoshos
haha same but only on one side and it makes it kick out to the left with my Ms racing cs kit
I noticed it on my MR03 too. I think some of the gears are loose. MR03 has an upgrade from PN but I don't know about MA020. Either that or you can check the servo saver inside if that's loose.
@@VSTHEWORLDORDIE yes the slop is on one side more than the other. right on mine the calsonic skyline
@@BeaversHobby i have upgraded the axle shafts and changed to locked diffs. the slop seems to be between the wheel nut and wheel i might 3dprint some 0.2mm shims to try and eliminate the slop.
@@TheIllestMVP In that case it's normal. You'll need some wheel shims for that. The inner diameter is 3mm with outer 4.5 to 5mm. Something like this. www.miracle-mart.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=67_74_1020_1023&products_id=13815
Hi, will the NB4 works with ASF? I have a Kyosho MR03 RWD ASF.
Unfortunately, no.
Please help me!
I followed your guide, installed the fhss module and updated the firmware but I can't bind my mini-z evo!
I have the specific module for noble!
What can I do?
The EVO receiver for Noble (yellow antenna) is AFHDS 3 and you'll need to update the receiver before you can use it with 2.0.99. The method is almost like GMR where you press and hold the bind button then turn the car on, keep holding it until you got 3 slow blinks + 1 pause then you can update the receiver.
I got the video for GMR here ua-cam.com/video/SjJkjXrSVI0/v-deo.html . EVO can be updated from the radio directly and doesn't need a PC but it's the same method to initiate the forced update mode.
Does the flysky GT-3B work with the mini z brushless buggy
@@Shippo_GOLF Unfortunately no.
Very informative! Hope your teeth okay
Thanks. 🤗
Can you post 20.0.99 file in comments? The link is missing at Flysky.
Added. Thanks.
The current firmware is 2.0.100.
If you want 2.0.99 I have a backup here drive.google.com/file/d/1bDK66TPo42n9jLhHQCXl76Zu6o8ajopd/view?usp=sharing
Can you have multiple Mini Z linked? Both my cars are driving at the same time.
You can bind multiple cars to a single transmitter. But if you turn the cars on the same time, they will all work off the same control.
I'm not sure what you want to do here.
Do you want both cars to be on while switching the model memory and drive them one by one? Or to have one transmitter to drive one car and the other to drive another one and run at the same time?
@@BeaversHobby I was hoping that the select model memory would only operate the select car
@@robertshelton2605 I see. Unfortunately, Mini-Z don't have that feature.
There're some protocols that support the 2-way communication with model ID. But even if you have that whenever you try to switch the model or turn the transmitter off without turning the car off first, a warning will pop up.
It's not safe to left the car on without connecting to a transmitter either.
can you still use it on regular receivers after the update?
Yes, it will still work with all the receivers. The update just adds more functions to it.
Hey great video, I also bought the flysky noble nb4 mainly for my mini-z but i have this weird problem that my pc (Windows 10) cant find my reciever (only as a gaming controller) when i plug the USB in. So i cant update to the newest version 2.0.99 for the FHSS mini-z, any suggestions or tips?
You'll need to put the transmitter into firmware update mode after plugging it in. Go to System and scroll down to Firmware Update. Follow the instruction from 2:19 and you'll be able to get it into that mode.
@@BeaversHobby thank you for your time and the answer but i tried that and did it exactly like you showed it in the video and the firmware updater cant detect/find my transmitter
@@BeaversHobby hey, so I got it. This was the only thing that helped I plugged the transmitter in my pc via USB, put it in the firmware update mode restarted my pc and only than could the firmware updater programm detect/find my transmitter to update it. THANKS again would not have tried this without you pointing out the update mode!!!
@@matynov My pleasure. Glad it works. Best of luck and have fun!
Can I use my nb4 with a stock brushless miniz buggy? Or I need that little module?
The FHSS one that comes without a transmitter? You'll need this RM005 module.
Thank you for the video.
If im not able to trim the steering enough to go straight. What would you recommend?
Zero the trim on the transmitter, instead of using trim on the transmitter to make it go straight move the wheels by hands first and reset the trim.
Then you can fine tune or adjust it with the trim on the transmitter.
@@BeaversHobby Thank You!
Totally got it. Awesome information..
I have a MA-030 with RA-41 receiver (white antenna same as your video I suppose)and NB4 transmitter, I was trying to set the neutral steering position and follow exactly the step in the video, but no matter how long I hold the paring button the LED won’t blink and the rest process couldn’t start at all, I’m pretty sure I was doing it correctly, because it works on my 4x4. Could you give me some advise about how to solve this issue or any other way to reset everything? Thank you so much!
My only trick is be sure to turn the transmitter off and turn only the car on before you hold the button to reset the steering. If it still won't blink then you can try and re-bind again (to make sure the button is working) and then reset the steering.
Here's the original article.
kyosho.com/mini-z-info/ufaqs/how-can-i-reset-the-neutral-position-of-mini-z-sportsrwdfwd-chassis/
@@BeaversHobby Thank you for the reply. I also re-binded the car and transmitter multiple times and have no problem with it, but when setting the neutral, the LED still won't blink. I wrote a mail to Kyosho, they told me: the steering reset only works on the Sports (Blue antenna) or RWD/AWD/4X4 (White antenna) boards, and if I want to reset the "Pro" or brushless boards I will need to use the ICS cable, which makes me confused, because you did it with MA030/white anteena/NB4 in you video.
@@Poiqweko Sorry for earlier. I didn't check that the RA-41 meant that it is the EVO series.
It is as Kyosho answered you. You need the ICS adapter to adjust the neutral position on EVO (and ASF/MHS) cars.
My car is a FWD converted to AWD so it has the standard FHSS board, not the EVO.
@@BeaversHobby ohhh, thank you so much, this clear out all the confusion for me, I will get a ICS ASAP. You are being so helpful and patient to me, thank you again!
@@Poiqweko My pleasure.
Will this work with wltoys 284131?
Yes, you will need to install your own ESC and it'll work with 284131 or any car for that matter.
Mini-Z is just a bit special (in not a very good way) that has everything on one circuit board.
what do you find better the flysky noble or the radiomaster mt12?
It depends on what you are after. The performance is the same between NB4 and MT12 ELRS version. NB4 is much easier to use but MT12 is more versatile.
For small scale like 1/28 and 1/24 NB4 is better because it has micro receivers. Until ELRS has micro receivers with JST-ZH plug, I'll stay with NB4.
MT12 is also a complete package out of the box with carrying case so I can take it outside easily.
If I can only buy one, I'll buy the MT12 ELRS version. It's cheaper and more future proof with expansion module. The receivers are cheap (half the price of NB4) as well.
@@BeaversHobby nice thanks for elaborating 😊 got a mt12 4in1 coming in soon 🎉🎉
@@fluffynl3390 Nice! 4-in-1 is really good especially when you mainly use it with Mini-Z and stuffs. You can install an external ELRS module later if you need the low latency connection.
I did the opposite though. I got the ELRS then install an external 4-in-1 module. Basically both will do the same.
@@BeaversHobby haha yeah or crossfire 😜 should be fun too if i can find a reciever for land vehicles
does this work on MA-020 also?
If your MA-020 is the current one with white antenna (FHSS) then yes, it'll work.
Here I use it with my MA-020 too. ua-cam.com/video/Fjf6OyheR5A/v-deo.html
Do you still need the small receiver for the rc ?
If you run a kit car, yes, you should use the small receiver.
For Mini-Z everything is integrated into 1 board so you only need to add the module to the transmitter, update the firmware and it'll work.
Why not add also ASF protocol too?
It uses a different chip entirely. ASF is also not a product of Flysky so I can't possibly ask for that.
@@BeaversHobby we live in 2021, an era where open tx, at least as regards some applications, is capable of replicating almost all protocols, we must also think that for a company like flysky, the production or development costs for a chip of the kind would be small, what I say is: if they already do it with drones, why not do it also with other types of remote controls? now it is enough to have an entrance where to mount an external module and that's it. just think of the Stick remote controls, which can mount protocols such as iRangeX or Ghost
@@michelesgarra3340 I fully understand when comparing with drone the cars are lacking behind in terms of new tech and OpenTX. However the multiprotocol isn't something the cars need because we always have enough space for a receiver. There aren't any hi-profile all-in-one boards except Kyosho Mini-Z and they already have their partners, KOPropo for ASF (and the KO Next which will come out later) and Flysky for FHSS & AFHDS 3. Also a proprietary transmitter-receiver connection is faster than going through a multiprotocol module in PPM mode. I've tested this before in my multiprotocol car transmitter. Also it's quite clunky when having to attach a module. Although a very nice idea and very nice if any manufacture would make one, I don't think it would catch on that much.
Hi. Your pairing light seems to still blink rapidly after you release the button. While mine seems to blink rapidly only when i still press the button, and will be back to blink slowly once i stop pressing the button. What is the cause? Do i need to update the receiver firmware? I couldn’t bind my fhss mini-z.
Try and put the radio in bind mode before the car and see if it binds. The slow blink means the car is bound to a transmitter so if it works after that then it is ok. The slow blink immediately after releasing the button comes from the car finding a transmitter in bind mode right at that moment. You don't need to update the receiver on Mini-Z RTR though. I've tried that and it did nothing. But if it's EVO, do it just to be safe.
@@BeaversHobby Finally i was able to bind both of my mini-z. I kept on trying like probably more than 20 times LoL. Thanks man 👍
By the way it would be great if you can share a video on how upgrading the mini-z receiver.
All the best to you!
@@cosmo7c Glad you got it working. I recently found out that there isn't a way to upgrade the receiver on Mini-Z FHSS (doesn't seem to need it either) but only on the AFHDS 3 in EVO. It's the same method as GMR which I'll do a video later.
Dou you lock rear diff in mini z for drift?
Yes, the rear is locked. The front can either be open, locked or in my case I use one way.
@@BeaversHobby thank you 🙂
Is that on the stock reciever
Yes, it is.
Do the awd have the fhss
@@crazylegz21010 Yes, all the new cars with white antenna have this same protocol. So if you buy one that the box says RWD, FWD, AWD, Buggy or 4x4 it will work with Noble + RM-005 module.
@@BeaversHobby which one is better to play inside the house with without using a track
@@crazylegz21010 AWD is the one you need. It will also work well outside the track and on regular home floor. If you have thick carpet, take a look at the buggy as well. I'll be much bigger but the ground clearance is much better.
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