@@GargamelGold couldn't really call him a "tyrant" though, since the Emperor himself was against slavery of Humans, and believed in true progression not held back by trivial things like religion or whatnot. He was also willing to talk and work with the Eldar, since they ( some) were willing to share the knowledge they attained when the galaxy was theirs to own. Arguably The true Tyrants of the Imperium would be the Echlesiachy, seeing that anyone who disagrees with their point of view is labeled a heretic or disadent and thus must be either executed or mind wiped. The whole concept of what the Imperium is supposed to be was lost thousands of years ago, but with the return of Gulliman and a few other "older" (literally) characters... there's a fair chance we just might see the original concept restored. It's far fetched, but possible nonetheless
@@JennyGormanRitter he isn’t against slavery of humans since their servitors and higher level ai replacements are made of humans some still possess enough perception to understand what they’re going through but can’t control their bodies, and the emperor did kill anyone who disagree with him, this is imprinted on his space marines who wouldn’t mind glassing innocent if need be, even the thousand sons one of the more tolerant legions composed of psychic freaks contemplated murdering a compliant planet’s primitive citizens not because of anything they do but because they wear weird masks (which were eldar inspired to ward off evils of the warp but they didn’t know) in their heresy novel but was only stopped because magnus ordered them to, and Ahriman being his most loyal at the time kept an eye on them everytime the fingers are near the triggers. If anything I’d say he’s pretty fond of slavery from the servitors, to the brainwashed Astartes, to the custodies that he can custom adjust physically, mentally anyway he likes no question asked, to those thunder warriors he killed right after their purpose as experimental fodder was done
@@lynnusuk2092 one can argue that Servitors are a construct of the Cult Mechanicus, and if you've read Belisarius Cawl The Great Work they even mention (albeit briefly) how the Big E himself is slightly disgusted by the concept, but allows it for the prospect of progression for knowledge. Those tribesmen you mentioned while they were used in that fashion the point being was religion as a whole needed to be shut down. The Emperor knew that as long as a single religion remained the prospect of His Imperium would never reign Supreme. He wasn't wrong, seeing that for the last 10,000+ years the very concept of a religion focused solely on him (again, caused by the Echlesiarchy) has been the single most reason why we saw such a stagnation of the modern Imperium. It ain't pretty, but as stated in the video... in all reality the Imperium is pretty lax compared to what it really could be all things considered.
Who is going to tell him that all tech progress in ten thousand years has actually just been rediscovering scraps from the previous, actually idyllic period of human flourishing?
@@Johnlanzer um yeah you had the Men of Iron and things went to shit afterward but you've got no Necrons, no Nids, and very important no Chaos Space Marines and less to almost no daemons yeah id prefer the Dark Age
The Necrons and Chaos Existed even during the Dark age, The Reason why the Dark age is slightly worse in 40K is due to the Xeno Races that existed before the Great Crusade.
The dark age was the shit. What are y’all talking about? It lasted forever and we had supreme control of the entire galaxy. Even the eldar couldn’t hang back then. It only went bad after the double whammy of the men of iron thing and the birth of slaanesh. We were fucking crushing it before then.
"Imperium is full of progress!" Mechanicus : "WE DISCOVER A NEW TECHNOLOGICAL BREAKTROUGH!1!!1!1 FROM 10K YEARS OF STAGNATION PANTS NOW COME WITH POCKET!"
If you get born into a planetary governor family in a peaceful and calm part of the galaxy: Life is good. If the above doesn't happen: Sucks to be you.
"If you get born into a planetary governor family in a peaceful and calm part of the galaxy: Life is good." That's when the threat of She who Thirsts and her cultists comes in to ruin your day.
The thing people forget is that the current setting of 40k is after the Golden Age of man. A robot uprising mixed with the beginnings of wrap storms cutting off who sections of the galaxy is what brought mankind to its current level. Much technology was lost, many eorlds regressed euther socially or technologically, and several minor problems like the Orks ballooned into a massive threat.
@@Robopoop101 There's also the Warp being driven insane by the War in Heaven. The Eldar birthing a fourth Chaos God. Mankind got the worst possible hand imaginable and the fact that the Imperium is able to doggedly resist a galaxy that is so aggressively antithetical to mandkind and surviving for ten thousand years is nothing short of miraculous.
In most sci-fi visions of the far future, humanity just doesn't make it, and we fade into oblivion. In Warhammer 4Ok, humanity literally spits into oblivion's eyes, and fights back with bolter, blade, and Sly Marbo. I'd take grim dark over nothing, any millennium of the week.
we can use people with that mentallity in The Korps,. Would you like to come to Krieg and fill in an application form ?? Travel expenses will be paid after first year of surviving, ehh.. training i mean.
People often forget that the imperium is made up of untold billions of worlds. Ya, many of them are hive cities sometimes literally built upon mountains of bodies, but for every Necromunda there is a forgotten imperial world much like earth where nothing interesting happens. We just don't hear about those worlds because, well, compared to a jungle world where the rain itself can kill you or a forge world where the air is so polluted that normal humans can't step outside there aren't that interesting.
I think a person's happiness has a lot to do with the little things, and how rich their life is. You could live in a dystopian future and have loved ones and some kind of purpose and be happy, and live in a modern western city and have nothing but an empty, pointless, miserable, bottomless nothingness of an existence. It all comes down to the people in your life and whether you have meaning and fulfillment.
"In most other sci-fi, life isn't that bad" As he shows a universe where Humanity is fighting against a galactic scaled religious fueled genocide and fighting against one of the most dangerous hiveminds in all of fiction.
@@thunberbolttwo3953 And then there's the Orks, who are pretty much exist to ruin _everyone's day._ Necrons? Your Tomb world's getting looted? Chaos? Orks are a natural monkey wrench to their plans. Nids? They haven't taken the Octarius sector from the Orks after 100 years of trying. And the Imperium? *Points at Armageddon, then at the events of the War of the Beast.* Ignore greenskins at your own peril.
@@thunberbolttwo3953 Only some Necrons. Weird is that the Necrons as of 9th Edition are experimenting on particular life in the galaxy to find the perfect host to reverse the biotransference that doomed their race.
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Given the fact in the vast majority of trillions of humans live in a bleak existence, the chances that you end up as a ruler in a pleasure world is slim to none.
@Landon Taylor it is a lot easier to mentally process death when you don't have to go to their funeral. When my dogs died I didn't think anything of it because my dad always handled it. When I became an adult and had to take my dog who was suffering from cancer to the vet to get put out of her suffering I cried for the first time. I never cried at the funerals of people I knew. I would be sad, but only sad in-so-far-as if I would be if someone told me they were moving away for a couple of years. I am a Christian. I do believe that I will see them again. It wasn't the end, but my dog? Do dogs have souls? When she died I cried because I had her die in my arms on top of the existential truth that it was the true end for her. Soldiers who see their comrades die don't cry about it untill after the enemy who caused it is dead. Purpose above all else is who pushes people to do things that make no sense from a darwinian self-preservation view. When a 40k govenor sends out a million men to fight, he isn't thinking of the dread they will die facing, but of the dread those men will stop to save their families back home.
Counterpoint to the whole "Progress" line: Technology in the Imperium of Man is actually in decline. As in, "they've lost MOST of the technology they had during the Dark Age of Technology." 40K Humanity is basically living in the cobbled together remains of what it USED to have.
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"the 41st millennium is not set in a post-apocalyptic age" There have been about 4 apocalypse scale events in 40K: The Men of Iron uprising The Age of Strife The Horus Heresy and lastly the opening of the great rift. Humanity has never fully recovered from any one of these and echoes of each of these disasters still have an impact well into the 42nd millennium, with the great rift being an apocalypse in progress.
Actually... I rather live in the 21st century than 40k. Our reality sucks, yes - but it's like... very minor compared to the shit in 40k. All the racism (against abhumans), corruption (high lord of Terra, Inquisitor, some planetary governor), war (well, this is obvious) and all those stuff in our world is like 40,000x the amount. Edit: not to mention that whatever bullshit that Nurgle can do is definitely worse than Covid.
A species of technologically vastly superior superhuman aliens that wants nothing but torture you to death as slow as possible: *exists* this guy: "It'S nOt So BaD aCtUaLlY!"
"This is a dark and terrible era where you will find little comfort or hope. Forget the power of technology and science. Forget the promise of progress or advancement. Forget and notion of common humanity or compassion. There is no peace amongst the stars, for in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war. But at least it's not boring!"
It once was way better, that is the saddest part of 40K. The golden age of technology is when that setting beat every other sci-fi setting out there in sheer living quality. And as to the idea of humanity working with Xenos, that happened then too. Humanity had the power to impress and awe the other races. That though is one of those details at least with the eldar that makes me question their current reactions as some Eldar were alive when the golden age happened and during the time of what brought humanity down.
I see their reaction as one of remembrance - Sure, the Golden Age of Technology was awesome, but then the Men of Iron rebelled and threw the entire galaxy into one big war. The war with the Men of Iron wasn't just a Humanity v. Robots war...it threw everyone into it. I'm sure the Eldar aren't too happy about having been assaulted by a creation of Humanity.
People forget that for each planet like Armageddon or cadia, in the empire of a million worlds there has to be a paradise planet that didnt suffer invasion for centuries or thousands of years. The lore just for obvious reasons doesnt focus on them. Somewhere in the galaxy, there is a guy who sweeps the streets, being content with his decent wage and no knowledge of eldritch horrors.
Statically the Emperor's life span doesn't have much of an impact on the average life span when measured against trillions of life's lost at younger age.
Correction. Not just demons but your own personal ones that you created through emotional reflection in the warp, who knows how to make things as bad as possible for you. 12/10 would die again
🤔 that’s debatable because the lore doesn’t say demons eat your soul when you die unless you’re corrupted or worship chaos.Humans that don’t worship chaos we have no idea what happens to them the imperium believes the emperor protects your soul when you die some fans think your soul is absorbed into the warp and you kinda just fade into oblivion while others think it’s a free for all in the warp and you fight everyone to keep your soul safe and the lore isn’t real clear on this so who knows
Ciaphas Cain novels were good at describing normal planets with normal people. Stuff like people relaxing in bar, artisans in villages that are not part of mechanicum, street vendor selling snacks (and also rescued by inquisitor in power armor who proceeds to buy those snacks), basically worlds that are not living hell holes. In fact on most planets people are ignorant of xenos for the most part.
"It's not post-apocalyptic." You just wait until the Golden Throne finally breaks down. If you think the universe is bad then there's a plethora of options on how bad is going to get.
What we don't realise is that American Ben is noting down all of us who disagree with the idea that the Imperium might be a good place to live and sending our names off to the Inquisition. For our own good and the good of humanity, naturally...
The 40k universe is so bad that author Dan Abnett says "its a place that u don't want to come visit or stay even 5 minutes in that universe because its so abnociously awful" IMO, the most safest place is probably the agri-world but still sometimes be raided by drukhari or orc but after the fall of Cadia idk any place can be call "safe" anymore..
Some things to note about 40k that a lot of people seem to forget. 1. The imperium is not the peak of humanity. It isn’t even close. The peak of humanity is referred to in 40k as the Dark age of technology. Think about how op the imperium is. Now multiply that by the amount of orks on Armageddon and that’s how op dark age humanity was. Until the war with the men of iron, humanity lived incredible lives where their only concern was self improvement. 2. Technology doesn’t really develop in the imperium. The tech priests believe that all tech already exists, and just needs to be found. To them, invention is tech heresy, and y’all know what happens to a heretic in 40k. 3. Without the emperor, humanity couldn’t have recovered from the age of strife, thus without him as its leader, humanity would likely fall into ruin. I mean given that he’s literally the only reason the astronomicon works, and ships can actually navigate the warp. Without him, there could be no imperium
Love the discussion, but most of the points made come with a big “yeah but....” example: the potential for an afterlife. The Eldar have one, but it involves eternal torment from Slaneesh.
Let's put it this way: people expect the future to be more like star trek and less like 40k. Yes, star trek humanity ain't the utopia the federation thinks it is, specially in the frontiers, but at least in the core planets life is pretty good. But even living at the cardacian border is not as bad as much of the 40k universe.
Humans when they die have their souls eaten, played with, or just disappear. Disappearing is a much better fate and the most common one. Other races besides the Orks and Tau are all going to hell (the warp) or oblivion at some point, they are exceptions but these are too few to matter in terms of not suffering.......so heresy.?
Battles and atrocities in the 40k universe are spaced off by centuries or even millenia. Millions live peaceful and productive lives without seeing war in their entire lifetimes. By contrast, the average 50 year old citizen of the United Federation of Planets in the 24th Century has lived through three full-scale wars, seen hundreds of colonies destroyed and even seen Earth directly threatened a couple of times.
@@Prophetofthe8thLegion Naaaah, it was a jab at the "utopian" UFP, and its permanent imperialist wars of expansion. Every fictional universe has inconsistencies that can be used to undermine its core message, after all.
“Their has been many advancements in technology.” He says as yet another human falls into a vat of molten metal because they haven’t found the stc for guard rails.
When I heard all of that "advance in medicine prolonging human life", an image of a 40k doctor comes in my mind "Anesthetic is expensive for the like of you, so we are not going to use it."
yeah, cause brainwashed, zealous warrior-nuns you only ever see on hyperreligious planets, after a chaos invasion or before a purge of heretics are a positive, I guess?! because they have boobs?
@@smity739 I wouldn't really call it courage, given how indoctrinated they are... now, I'm not playing down facing literal demons and whatnot, but to me it's the same "courage" we see today in certain individuals being promised 72 virgins after death...
@@FulloutPostal as where the crusades, the Salem witch trials, the forced abortions of children with none Hebrew fathers and so on and so on. But in 40k, fighting dark gods who want to eat your soul and their servants is not religious propaganda, it's a fact of every day life. And they do have a choice, enough sisters of battle and space marines have gone over to chaos to prove, that there is always a choice. And the loyal sisters of battle made the choice NOT to worship a pantheon with a deity of chicks with dicks violently bdsm butt sex. True, the modern imperium is not what the emperor wanted, it's what the chaos gods wanted. They sabotaged the emperors efforts to cause the fall of the federation of man, the fall of the eldar, the death of the last old one, the dark age of the galaxy and the current state of the galaxy. The emperor made mistakes, but he did not torture souls for all time or reduce people to control them, he was uplifting the human race as a whole. He is not the worst thing in the galaxy. And the sisters are not unique in their fanaticism or violence, but they are one of the few factions that have entire orders dedicated to helping others.
40k universe has a lot element that are lovecraftian in nature like the fact that everything is trying to kill off humanity or twisted into something else.
The majority of people tend to forget that the overwhelming majority of places in the Imperium of Man haven't actually seen conflict for tens of thousands of years. Yes, millions of world are wared over daily. Billions aren't, though, at the same time. There are plenty of normal Imperial Worlds and Agri Worlds that are more-or-less like living on earth right now, but with better technology. Most of these worlds will never even see a pirate flotilla, let alone an actual invasion force.
@Edalwulf Bergmann ah most worlds of the Star Wars universe have never seen a war or get not attacked in a million years, sure there are few worlds of Imperium of Man are peaceful. But still 40k is mostly at War, and I would rather lived in the Star Wars universe than of Warhammer 40k.
@@hughgedney3393 Wrong. Star Wars is a much smaller place, and the Republic has only existed for ~10,000 years by the time of the Empire Almost every single world in Star Wars knows war within the last hundred years at any given point. They fight eachother, they have the Republic or Empire wage wars of subjugation against them, etc. Pirates, for them, are even a legitimate risk to many planets' sovereignty, especially in the outer rim, where they're all on their own, more-or-less. Just because the Republic hadn't gone to war as a whole for a thousand years before the Clone Wars doesn't mean that individual worlds didn't wage war against oneanother. (which is incorrect, they went to war with the Mandalorian Empire a few decades before the Clone Wars on behalf of the Jedi Order because the Jedi were terrified that the Mandalorians would decide to expand their boarders again. The Jedi were the ones that devastated Mandalore, not the Mandalorians.)
Not really, In Many Novels it is Saids Most Planets in the Inner Reach of the Imperium is relatively Fine and Get the Fruits of the 41st Millennium from life Extension and Relative Luxury similar to ours. Just that the Death worlds and the Forge Worlds gets all the Highlights.
If I had to choose, I would much rather join the Astra Miltarum than be a factory worker. Despite the survival rate and life expectancy being Astra-nomically low. (I'm sorry) it would be much better than slowly dying from exhaustion, hunger or carcinogenic fumes while being overworked in some overcrowded factory. And if I got incredibly lucky, climbing the ranks would grant me more benefits and a better life than the average human. And considering the callousness towards human life in the 41st millennium, I'd have more to gain than lose. 95% chance of being pulped by some cosmic horror, 5% chance of surviving long enough to climb the ranks rather than 100% chance of dying of sickness/hunger or work related accident. 5% of having a somewhat decent life is still 5x better than 0%. That's all I'm saying.
At least the ones who fight there are mostly adults. In Interim Coalition of Independence from Xelee , the fighters are usually kids/teens, plus naval tactics are pretty much : find an asteroid, make it a weapons platform with trenches, send it towards targets location and "win" or die trying
Of course yet Space Marines are recruited as indoctrinated boys over 10-12 or 16-18 years of age. They will undergo several horrendous surgeries, implants and augmentations without anesthetics so they can become a fully developed 7 - 8ft tall super soldiers or brain dead servitors if they didn't make the cut. So yeah mostly adults who sacrificed their childhood and manhood because Space Marines can't f*ck anymore, for the Emperor.
if you live on a Hive, Death, Fortress or Forge World yeah it sucks to be you. Same if you live on most Chapter owned planets. But there are 100000s upon 10000s of planets in the Imperium that are Shrine Worlds dedicated to worship, or agri worlds where they grow food, civilized worlds where the quality of life is similar to our own, no two planets are exactly alike and I'm sure for some worlds it has been 1000s of year since they PDF has had anything to do but exterminate feral orks or the odd pirate raid. Not to mention the worlds outside of the Light of the Astronomican that have never even heard of the Imperium.
I really dont know why alot of these people keep calling how bad things are in 40k tbh, like you get to fight aliens and demons with advanced weapons and armor and die as a hero with your brothers In reality right now during covid you sit at home feeling depressed and eventually die anyway.
Generation Films, Actually humanity is only United in 40k because the emperor conquered almost every other group of humans in existence, not simply because of hostile Xenos. Also, not only would life be hellish for the common citizen of the Imperium, but their afterlife sounds a lot like Hell. No thank you. Warhammer 40k is that bad.
Personally for normal humans I think life is about as bad as it gets; they work massive long shifts with only a few hours in between to eat and sleep before the next shift starts. Imagine working 14 hours a day 7 days a week every week of every year with little to no rest. And you don't think life is as bad as people make out? That is awful as life expectancy on a hive world is around 30 years or so; give or take a year or 2. If the Xenos turn up your life expectancy depletes alone with the invasion; in the case of Tyranids you'll be food within a day. I know in the fiction they have been stopped but for every planet that makes it through a Tyranid invasion 1000 more die. Nope; I'd rather live in the Star Wars universe thanks. It's not ridiculously utopian like Star Trek and instead life is pretty much normal. Don't get me wrong it still has its bad points (deep levels of cities just like the underhives) but still, places like Harlem and Brixton aren't much better in the real world. I think in terms of realism Aliens universe has it about right; people are expendable to feed "The Company", as long as the rich keep getting richer everyone else doesn't matter.
That’s the reason I like the alien universe because it’s true.Look at the companies you see today lobbying the government to pass laws that benefits them now multiply that by 10
As a fan of 40k for 3 decades and one deeply entrenched in its lore I totally agree with you. There is little difference in being a human in the modern age as there is being one in the Grimdark. 40k is only satire of the 20th century written by British metal heads in the 1980's.....
@@GargamelGold But there are also new virus variants spreading at record rates, maybe faster then the vaccine is being distribuited. If the vaccine don't reach people fast enough, the majority of people is going to get seek before the vaccine roll out.
"At least you'll die in an interesting way! Unless your resurrected as a semi-sentient servitor. Or your soul is stolen by a chaos God. Or your captured by Dark Eldar."
I mean if you are going to be stuck in 40k the only place to be is with the Tau. Their leaders almost certainly have some nefarious purposes but overall it is the best faction to be a part of from a quality of life standpoint. And with their Greater Good philosophy you can even have freedom of religion!
@@GuitarsRockForever The Tau have beaten a Tyranid Incursion, Necrons, an Ork Invasion, and a Imperium retaliation fleet. I know this because I was bored one week and basically binged a WH40K lore site. 😅 The Tau's biggest weakness is lack of FTL, it's what prevents them from becoming a major player in the 40K universe.
@@joshuahogan3475 Tau beat necron and tyranid with the force of imperium. They cannot do it by themselves. Also they have FTL, just not as advanced as everyone else. Tau has impressive technologies and ability to adopt and develop new technology fast. But they will be fucked once chaos got their attention. Technology alone doesn't work that well in 40k universe.
@@GuitarsRockForever oh no. They defeated a Tyranid Incursion by themselves. And it wasn't even the full Tau Empire, it was a splinter group that beat them. They had to sacrifice a planet to do it but they won. Also, the lack of FTL is in the updated Lore. They retconned the slow FTL of older editions, which seems stupid to me but I don't own the publisher so. 🤷🏼
I kind of don't understand how this doesn't have more downvotes. This dude sits in a comfy room with posters on the wall and explains that the whole Hive World thing isn't really so bad.
I sort of agree with him If you consume enough 40k content beyond the surface level you will notice that many people on the setting actually live quite average life and not everyone lives in absolute hellholes,hell thee are worlds with little wars that never even seen Space Marines.Yes,in general it would suck to live in the Universe, but if you would born in some wealthy family on a world that not touched by the war much you may have an pretty good life.
I would welcome not having a soul if that saves me from having to deal with the hellish after-life of the Warp. I mean, dying once just to endure a second death with a "colorful amount of possible variaties"?! I prefer believing to be an amalgamation of cells that is somehow self-aware instead of subscribing to the narcissistic view of seeing humankind as something "special".
all depends on who you are and where you live: A noble living full time on a safe and protected pleasure world, that is DREAM LIFE right there High lord of Terra? good life is a little too much responsibility. A rich guy living in the upper portion of a well-protected hive city. still living the good life A regular white-collar worker in any civil administration or business on the upper-mid part of a hive city, you'll still have it better than here Going full space marine mode, tough but rewarding. rogue traders? you win some you lose some, you could be rich, or be dead. 16-hour day factory worker making lazguns? nope 18-hour day corpse harvesting in the undercity? yeah no thanks Guardsmen? that is hell Servator? even worse being evicerated, mutilated, and violated by any xenos or even worse, sleenesh cultists? that is definitely not worth it.
People in 40k: "It would be amazing to live in 2k earth, the age of technology and progress!" People currently living 21st century: "Well, yesn't well let put this simple you guys still have meaning." 40K >>> 2K
The way I see it, a lot of the main horrors of the Warhammer 40k universe seem to be from the battlefield itself. As long as you're not in an actual warzone, I don't see how daily-life for ordinary people would be any worse than it was for say, factory workers in Stalin's USSR or a farm-labourer in medieval Europe. That's to say, *not good*, but not apocalyptically terrible either.
The title theoretically applies in the places where all the Stories we know about the 40K universe isn't taking place but how much money do ya wanna bet that it never finds you.
It's an interesting idea. Humanity has moved well beyond what we are now. And despite the chaotic nature there are worlds untouched by the destruction. I think it depends mostly life would suck but if your lucky you would benefit from the positives like the medical technology and areas that aren't affected by war.
That is, until the Tyranids, Chaos, Orks, Tau, the Imperium, or Necrons inevitably find that world (or wake up on it in the Necron’s case) and kill everyone.
People going into 40k Everyone: I wanna be a Space Marine/Sisters of Battle/Adeptus Mechanicus. Some: Xeno races. Me: Dons flak armor and Lasgun as an Imperial Guard. . . . Yes I would totally choose the IG 100 percent of the time.
Each planet in the Imperum has its own goverment. Witch mean's that ther are republics and considering the size of the Imperum, thers probuly worlds that are pecfull.
*Watching the news:* *Plop,* *The UN-flag is exchanged with the two-headed eagle...* -Time to worry. (-and no, I'm not talking about the contemporary icons used by several 'institutions' of the 21th century).
Cosmo Sturges, But those “republics” could hardly be liberal democracies without things like freedom of religion. I hardly think I would want to live anywhere in 40k
This is true. There are a million+ planets in the Imperium. Every kind of world exists. From horrific Mad Max wastelands to beautiful and peaceful pleasure worlds. There’s worlds that are just like our modern day Earth with a few obvious differences.
@@GargamelGold you are free from religion. As long as you understand that the main god in your pantheon is the Emperor. And dont say "but my religion." As if you are born in the imperium your religion is the Emperor it is just a fact the Great Crusade insured that.
@@shadow435100, And that’s supposed to make it okay? Yeah that’s such a “compelling” argument. I’m glad that 40k is not real. Oh and if you’re about to argue that things like genuine freedom of speech and religion would never work in 40k, that’s just another reason to be happy that’s not the world we live in.
See their are plenty of good lives. If you live mid Hive or up its not so bad. Also if you live on a paradise world, post industrial world, realm of Ultramar, Baal after the Devastation of Baal, these all are pretty good. The people that live on the edge of the Imperium or next to Necron empires, or in Drukari raiding areas or around a Warp rift then you will likely not see any war in your life time unless you get conscripted to the Guard, or a Tyranid Hive fleet or GeneStealer cult uprising happens. Now if you life in the Imperium Nighalis and are not around Baal it sucks rights now for sure but before the rift it was not that bad. See the Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Tanith First and Only books when they are on respite from the front line. As well as many more show this. The stories just focus on the wars as that's the most interesting part.
Even if I were to luck out and be a planetary governor, or live on a paradise planet in a quiet sector, or both I'd still not want to be in the 40k universe. The threat of horrifying gruesome death is too high. Much the less the chance of being turned into a flesh slave/machine for dissing on our glorious skeleton on his golden toilet...oh crap
I knew nothing of Warhammer 40k until I watched the video that inspired this video a couple of months ago. Since then I have immersed myself into the lore to learn of this unknown universe. What I have learned has shocked me, and now all I can do is despair that I do not have the ability to serve the Emperor. I sir would most definitely want to be inserted into the world of 40k so that I may bask in the glory of the Empire of Man and be given the opportunity to die for The Emperor even if it was just as a guardsmen being shredded by some unspeakable horror of the Warp. Unfortunately I will have to live out my days just reading the novels in shame.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I agree, but for different reasons. With the absolute massive size of the galaxy, it would be reasonably to presume that most of the Imperium would still be decent enough to live....depending on where you find yourself. For the Xeno races, most of the Tau live heavily doctrined lives where everything is already decided for them so I imagine they live somewhat contently seeing how that's just how they like things. The Eldar have either the strict life styles of the Craftworlders to stave off corruption, but it seems like most of them are fine with it, and the Exodites who might as well be Space Wood Elves and they like it just fine on their Maiden Worlds and would like it even more if you fuck off. Orks love anywhere there's a fight so naturally they get the best deal out of anyone else in the setting. EDIT: I just want to say that the Humanity we see in 40k is well past their golden age. The Humanity we see is essentially in an extended dark age that continues to get darker as the wall close in around them. So much like the rest of the setting, the good ol' days were better.
The only place that seems tolerable to live in 40k is the Tau Empire, and they're probably going to be one of the first to go extinct in the 3 way deathmatch between the Tyranids, demons, and the Necrons.
4 way deathmatch: Tyranids, Daemons, Necrons, and ORKZ. They're the most populus race in the galaxy, and their junkyard tech becomes unbelievably advanced and powerful (if unpredictable) when a WAAAGH is in effect. And they don't back down, no matter the cost.
Imagine getting hit by a nurgle blight grenade a few weeks out of guardsmen school.... Imagine being the guy having to fuel up humanity spacefaring ships.
i'll only accept being sent to the 40k universe if i get to be an Ork, or perhaps a space marine. But preferably orks. They're the only ones with a " Good" life and having fun XD
This video should be renamed to:
“Man tries to rationalise jumping ass-first into a blender”
Best description
Indeed
TRAITOR
He is pretty convincing, I'm eyeing a blender right now.
Ass-fist into a blender, a meat grinder and finally a big furnace.
Pro: You won't be unemployed for long in the 42nd millennium.
Con: You will not live long.
Also Pro: You won't live long.
Best comment.
unless if you are a space marine, in which you can pretty much live forever
@@holeeshi9959 It's far from guaranteed.
@@jimmyseaver3647 I have better chances of winning the lottery.
Winner 🏆🏆🏆🏆
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD🩸🩸🩸🩸🩸
SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE 💀💀💀💀
See? See? Who wouldn’t want to live in a universe that is graced by the presence of the God-Emperor?
People in 42nd millennium are starting to realize he is not the God Emperor, and he is no more. And hail Sanguinius.
Ronin,
Yeah who wouldn’t want to live in a universe where all of humanity is lead by an immortal tyrant?
@@GargamelGold couldn't really call him a "tyrant" though, since the Emperor himself was against slavery of Humans, and believed in true progression not held back by trivial things like religion or whatnot. He was also willing to talk and work with the Eldar, since they ( some) were willing to share the knowledge they attained when the galaxy was theirs to own. Arguably The true Tyrants of the Imperium would be the Echlesiachy, seeing that anyone who disagrees with their point of view is labeled a heretic or disadent and thus must be either executed or mind wiped. The whole concept of what the Imperium is supposed to be was lost thousands of years ago, but with the return of Gulliman and a few other "older" (literally) characters... there's a fair chance we just might see the original concept restored. It's far fetched, but possible nonetheless
@@JennyGormanRitter he isn’t against slavery of humans since their servitors and higher level ai replacements are made of humans some still possess enough perception to understand what they’re going through but can’t control their bodies, and the emperor did kill anyone who disagree with him, this is imprinted on his space marines who wouldn’t mind glassing innocent if need be, even the thousand sons one of the more tolerant legions composed of psychic freaks contemplated murdering a compliant planet’s primitive citizens not because of anything they do but because they wear weird masks (which were eldar inspired to ward off evils of the warp but they didn’t know) in their heresy novel but was only stopped because magnus ordered them to, and Ahriman being his most loyal at the time kept an eye on them everytime the fingers are near the triggers. If anything I’d say he’s pretty fond of slavery from the servitors, to the brainwashed Astartes, to the custodies that he can custom adjust physically, mentally anyway he likes no question asked, to those thunder warriors he killed right after their purpose as experimental fodder was done
@@lynnusuk2092 one can argue that Servitors are a construct of the Cult Mechanicus, and if you've read Belisarius Cawl The Great Work they even mention (albeit briefly) how the Big E himself is slightly disgusted by the concept, but allows it for the prospect of progression for knowledge. Those tribesmen you mentioned while they were used in that fashion the point being was religion as a whole needed to be shut down. The Emperor knew that as long as a single religion remained the prospect of His Imperium would never reign Supreme. He wasn't wrong, seeing that for the last 10,000+ years the very concept of a religion focused solely on him (again, caused by the Echlesiarchy) has been the single most reason why we saw such a stagnation of the modern Imperium.
It ain't pretty, but as stated in the video... in all reality the Imperium is pretty lax compared to what it really could be all things considered.
The title: 40k isn't that bad. The thumbnail: unimaginable torture.
Just the average khorne berserker trying to get through a bloodless day
you call that torture, i call that my fleshs road to freedom
Whats the difference for many people in the real world (3rd world countries and war torn areas)?
@@Cross_111 People don't get their souls violated by daemons or turned into zombie cyborgs in 3rd world countries, but I get your point.
@@jbark678 not as far as we know.
Me: *sees the title*
Also me: this guy is an agent of the ruinous powers
I was thinking Tau.
For the greater doog
Nah this is definitely tau
Just don’t live on a named planet
For Primordial Truth
Who is going to tell him that all tech progress in ten thousand years has actually just been rediscovering scraps from the previous, actually idyllic period of human flourishing?
More than that, the Dark Age of Technology sounds bad and only mildly better than in the Imperium.
Based on what few information that can be gleamed.
@@Johnlanzer um yeah you had the Men of Iron and things went to shit afterward but you've got no Necrons, no Nids, and very important no Chaos Space Marines and less to almost no daemons yeah id prefer the Dark Age
@@Johnlanzer Information provided by an empire that believes it to be a dark age of heresy. Doesn't seem like a reliable source
The Necrons and Chaos Existed even during the Dark age,
The Reason why the Dark age is slightly worse in 40K is due to the Xeno Races that existed before the Great Crusade.
The dark age was the shit. What are y’all talking about? It lasted forever and we had supreme control of the entire galaxy. Even the eldar couldn’t hang back then. It only went bad after the double whammy of the men of iron thing and the birth of slaanesh. We were fucking crushing it before then.
"Imperium is full of progress!"
Mechanicus : "WE DISCOVER A NEW TECHNOLOGICAL BREAKTROUGH!1!!1!1 FROM 10K YEARS OF STAGNATION PANTS NOW COME WITH POCKET!"
Mechanicus: "it's our technology!!! No touchie heretic."
after millenia, we now know how toaster works!
If you get born into a planetary governor family in a peaceful and calm part of the galaxy: Life is good.
If the above doesn't happen: Sucks to be you.
You will have to ablige by surrealistic ceremonies for 20 hours a day. Even your bathroom break is a traditional ceremony.
"If you get born into a planetary governor family in a peaceful and calm part of the galaxy: Life is good."
That's when the threat of She who Thirsts and her cultists comes in to ruin your day.
Yeah unless one guy on your planet starts straying a little too far from the emperors light and you get exterminatused
Lore-wise Exferminatus is very Rare and Many Planets are similar to ours.
Sucks to be in the Outer Systems Though.
The thing people forget is that the current setting of 40k is after the Golden Age of man. A robot uprising mixed with the beginnings of wrap storms cutting off who sections of the galaxy is what brought mankind to its current level. Much technology was lost, many eorlds regressed euther socially or technologically, and several minor problems like the Orks ballooned into a massive threat.
This! The Imperium is in the midst of a slow and painful decline, situation made even worst when the Cicatrix Maledictum tore the galaxy in two.
@@Robopoop101 There's also the Warp being driven insane by the War in Heaven. The Eldar birthing a fourth Chaos God. Mankind got the worst possible hand imaginable and the fact that the Imperium is able to doggedly resist a galaxy that is so aggressively antithetical to mandkind and surviving for ten thousand years is nothing short of miraculous.
5:13 "hope is the first step on the road to disappointment"
The profile picture makes it even better.
" The Guard.... Well they die"
Krieg citizen: Where do I sign up?
They already are
Yes
@@tomchristie5547 not all Krieg get to be part of the guard
Last time I was this early the Emperor himself was uniting the galaxy
Last time I was this early the humans were still using Iron Men
In most sci-fi visions of the far future, humanity just doesn't make it, and we fade into oblivion. In Warhammer 4Ok, humanity literally spits into oblivion's eyes, and fights back with bolter, blade, and Sly Marbo.
I'd take grim dark over nothing, any millennium of the week.
Beautiful 😢
Yep, the fight against entropy itself is what makes life worth living.
we can use people with that mentallity in The Korps,. Would you like to come to Krieg and fill in an application form ?? Travel expenses will be paid after first year of surviving, ehh.. training i mean.
@@kommissarkillemall2848 *excited gas mask noises*
Since your fighting alongside Nazis against Cthulu, what choices do you have in that universe.
This video's target audience are for Orks not humans, and they told me this channel was pro Humanity First.
People often forget that the imperium is made up of untold billions of worlds. Ya, many of them are hive cities sometimes literally built upon mountains of bodies, but for every Necromunda there is a forgotten imperial world much like earth where nothing interesting happens. We just don't hear about those worlds because, well, compared to a jungle world where the rain itself can kill you or a forge world where the air is so polluted that normal humans can't step outside there aren't that interesting.
I think a person's happiness has a lot to do with the little things, and how rich their life is. You could live in a dystopian future and have loved ones and some kind of purpose and be happy, and live in a modern western city and have nothing but an empty, pointless, miserable, bottomless nothingness of an existence. It all comes down to the people in your life and whether you have meaning and fulfillment.
Well said!
Too bad it's canonical that most IOM citizen happiness ( the ones that didn't love on a semi decent planet ) came from literal cope/delusion
I'm sure now that, the North Korean people are one of the most happy and healthy people on this planet.
"In most other sci-fi, life isn't that bad" As he shows a universe where Humanity is fighting against a galactic scaled religious fueled genocide and fighting against one of the most dangerous hiveminds in all of fiction.
Then there are the necrons. Who want to kill all life forms. Oh dont forget the chaos gods.
@@thunberbolttwo3953 And then there's the Orks, who are pretty much exist to ruin _everyone's day._ Necrons? Your Tomb world's getting looted? Chaos? Orks are a natural monkey wrench to their plans. Nids? They haven't taken the Octarius sector from the Orks after 100 years of trying. And the Imperium? *Points at Armageddon, then at the events of the War of the Beast.* Ignore greenskins at your own peril.
The enemy of man is many , but our devotion and faith will earn our glorious victory
And it's still 'gloves on' compared to 40k.
@@thunberbolttwo3953 Only some Necrons. Weird is that the Necrons as of 9th Edition are experimenting on particular life in the galaxy to find the perfect host to reverse the biotransference that doomed their race.
Given the fact in the vast majority of trillions of humans live in a bleak existence, the chances that you end up as a ruler in a pleasure world is slim to none.
@Landon Taylor to be fair at this point its just sending numbers to their deaths, the 1 death is a tragedy x is a statistic quote comes to mind
@Landon Taylor it is a lot easier to mentally process death when you don't have to go to their funeral. When my dogs died I didn't think anything of it because my dad always handled it. When I became an adult and had to take my dog who was suffering from cancer to the vet to get put out of her suffering I cried for the first time.
I never cried at the funerals of people I knew. I would be sad, but only sad in-so-far-as if I would be if someone told me they were moving away for a couple of years. I am a Christian. I do believe that I will see them again. It wasn't the end, but my dog? Do dogs have souls?
When she died I cried because I had her die in my arms on top of the existential truth that it was the true end for her.
Soldiers who see their comrades die don't cry about it untill after the enemy who caused it is dead. Purpose above all else is who pushes people to do things that make no sense from a darwinian self-preservation view. When a 40k govenor sends out a million men to fight, he isn't thinking of the dread they will die facing, but of the dread those men will stop to save their families back home.
Honestly, I'd be happy living on a low tithe grade Civilized World far from the borders of the Imperium.
Counterpoint to the whole "Progress" line: Technology in the Imperium of Man is actually in decline. As in, "they've lost MOST of the technology they had during the Dark Age of Technology." 40K Humanity is basically living in the cobbled together remains of what it USED to have.
I see
Sister of Battle: Bae, come home.
Marine: Can't, purging some Xenos.
Sister of Battle: Inquisitor isn't home.
*Marine rushes to her home*
Yes, ape brain strong.
Slannesh has you. #24/7blazemyvagick
@AMBI DEXROUS avast and desist, you rapscallion! A language draws strength from its diversity and multitude of thought. No word deserve exile to fringes of our mind.
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@AMBI DEXROUS Close your trap whipper snapper.
i smell heresy
"the 41st millennium is not set in a post-apocalyptic age"
There have been about 4 apocalypse scale events in 40K:
The Men of Iron uprising
The Age of Strife
The Horus Heresy
and lastly the opening of the great rift.
Humanity has never fully recovered from any one of these and echoes of each of these disasters still have an impact well into the 42nd millennium, with the great rift being an apocalypse in progress.
To be fair, the after effects of the War in Heaven driving the Warp insane has yet to actually end. That's the mother of all the issues in 40K.
People in 40k: "It would be amazing to live in 2k earth, the age of technology and progress!"
People currently living 21st century: "Well, yesn't"
Honestly, 2k >>> 40k.
@@Nexus9118 2020 >> 40k
2020: when plagues could be prevented with a couple of injections that only slightly hurt.
Actually... I rather live in the 21st century than 40k. Our reality sucks, yes - but it's like... very minor compared to the shit in 40k. All the racism (against abhumans), corruption (high lord of Terra, Inquisitor, some planetary governor), war (well, this is obvious) and all those stuff in our world is like 40,000x the amount.
Edit: not to mention that whatever bullshit that Nurgle can do is definitely worse than Covid.
@@awalkingfire2176 I smell a heretic, is that you *spam the exterminatus button*
A species of technologically vastly superior superhuman aliens that wants nothing but torture you to death as slow as possible:
*exists*
this guy: "It'S nOt So BaD aCtUaLlY!"
"This is a dark and terrible era where you will find little comfort or hope. Forget the power of technology and science. Forget the promise of progress or advancement. Forget and notion of common humanity or compassion. There is no peace amongst the stars, for in the grim darkness of the far future, there is only war. But at least it's not boring!"
It once was way better, that is the saddest part of 40K. The golden age of technology is when that setting beat every other sci-fi setting out there in sheer living quality. And as to the idea of humanity working with Xenos, that happened then too. Humanity had the power to impress and awe the other races. That though is one of those details at least with the eldar that makes me question their current reactions as some Eldar were alive when the golden age happened and during the time of what brought humanity down.
I see their reaction as one of remembrance - Sure, the Golden Age of Technology was awesome, but then the Men of Iron rebelled and threw the entire galaxy into one big war. The war with the Men of Iron wasn't just a Humanity v. Robots war...it threw everyone into it. I'm sure the Eldar aren't too happy about having been assaulted by a creation of Humanity.
Title: Warhammer 40K isn’t that bad.
Cover photo: a fucking WORLD EATER.
Dude for real lol. I thought the same thing. It had to be done ironically. There’s no way that was whiffed that bad. Blood for the blood god I guess
People forget that for each planet like Armageddon or cadia, in the empire of a million worlds there has to be a paradise planet that didnt suffer invasion for centuries or thousands of years. The lore just for obvious reasons doesnt focus on them. Somewhere in the galaxy, there is a guy who sweeps the streets, being content with his decent wage and no knowledge of eldritch horrors.
They'll focus on them when its under attack, invaded or getting f*cked by warpstorms for in the grim dark future there is only war.
Like, all those medieval worlds, because there are millions of them and they are the preferred recruting grounds for the Astartes
how fucking boring thanks for completely ruining the concept of wh40k for me
Statically the Emperor's life span doesn't have much of an impact on the average life span when measured against trillions of life's lost at younger age.
Me, reading the title from the comfort of my homestead on a Culture Orbital: Na, can't convince me.
Yeah... Post scarcity things...™
Great video but living under the light of the god emperor alone makes my 18hr/day job at the corpse starch factory luxurious.
You're only working 18 hours a day?
You guys don't not work constantly?
Your lack of devotion to the Emperor requires... Inquisiting
Only 18 hours! That's heresy
Wise words noble citizen, the emperor is pleased with your devotion.
Yeah but when you die you're soul is torn apart by demons and consumed. That's a pretty solid negative
Do souls have nervous systems? If not doesn’t sound to bad.
Are we sure that doesn't happen now?
@@dracon501 Point taken
Correction.
Not just demons but your own personal ones that you created through emotional reflection in the warp, who knows how to make things as bad as possible for you.
12/10 would die again
🤔 that’s debatable because the lore doesn’t say demons eat your soul when you die unless you’re corrupted or worship chaos.Humans that don’t worship chaos we have no idea what happens to them the imperium believes the emperor protects your soul when you die some fans think your soul is absorbed into the warp and you kinda just fade into oblivion while others think it’s a free for all in the warp and you fight everyone to keep your soul safe and the lore isn’t real clear on this so who knows
Ciaphas Cain novels were good at describing normal planets with normal people. Stuff like people relaxing in bar, artisans in villages that are not part of mechanicum, street vendor selling snacks (and also rescued by inquisitor in power armor who proceeds to buy those snacks), basically worlds that are not living hell holes. In fact on most planets people are ignorant of xenos for the most part.
Ok, yet I still prefer not be in that world lol
You mean universe cus some planets are awesome
@@temugebagira6592 yeah my bad
@@temugebagira6592 I am not to sure if being born on a 'pleasure-planet' iss all that great.
@@Ulvetann if your rich then yeah
@@Ulvetann its probably amazing
"It's not post-apocalyptic."
You just wait until the Golden Throne finally breaks down. If you think the universe is bad then there's a plethora of options on how bad is going to get.
That wouldnt make a great difference for half of the divided empire anyways, at least at this point and I am sure that daddy Cawl can fix it.
J,
If you consider the “Dark Age Of Technology” that came before it, it pretty much is a post apocalypse.
@@GargamelGold post-post apocalyptic
The age of technology: utopia
Age of strife: post apocalypse
Great crusade: okay civilization
Current imperium: dystopia
@@jackmakila3776,
The Great Crusade was arguably also pretty dystopian as well.
What we don't realise is that American Ben is noting down all of us who disagree with the idea that the Imperium might be a good place to live and sending our names off to the Inquisition. For our own good and the good of humanity, naturally...
Your words are wise, have you ever considered a career in the inquisition?
@@imperialinquisitor510 What makes you think I am not already a servant of the Throne, Inquisitor?
@@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954 *smiles and nods*
@@imperialinquisitor510 ***Makes the sign of the Aquilla***
The 40k universe is so bad that author Dan Abnett says "its a place that u don't want to come visit or stay even 5 minutes in that universe because its so abnociously awful" IMO, the most safest place is probably the agri-world but still sometimes be raided by drukhari or orc but after the fall of Cadia idk any place can be call "safe" anymore..
Some things to note about 40k that a lot of people seem to forget.
1. The imperium is not the peak of humanity. It isn’t even close. The peak of humanity is referred to in 40k as the Dark age of technology. Think about how op the imperium is. Now multiply that by the amount of orks on Armageddon and that’s how op dark age humanity was.
Until the war with the men of iron, humanity lived incredible lives where their only concern was self improvement.
2. Technology doesn’t really develop in the imperium. The tech priests believe that all tech already exists, and just needs to be found. To them, invention is tech heresy, and y’all know what happens to a heretic in 40k.
3. Without the emperor, humanity couldn’t have recovered from the age of strife, thus without him as its leader, humanity would likely fall into ruin. I mean given that he’s literally the only reason the astronomicon works, and ships can actually navigate the warp. Without him, there could be no imperium
Would rather live as a grunt in halo than be a noble in 40k where your soul can be tortured for centuries
This but unironically, at least when I die as a grunt I won’t have to suffer space hell like some random scummy noble in the imperium.
Love the discussion, but most of the points made come with a big “yeah but....” example: the potential for an afterlife. The Eldar have one, but it involves eternal torment from Slaneesh.
"The Gaurd, they die well"
Bro 99.99% of the imperium's armies is the Gaurd and they die very well
A man of proper education, clearly you’ve watched at least 10 hours of life videos.
@CK Lim Imperial guard firing a *BOLTER* ???????????
Me: Reads title
Also me: ORKZ CREEPING AROUND HERE!
fuck a green-skin, oh shit i must have made wrong spell again, i never be enlisted in cult of time
Xenos and humanity getting along?! HERSEY!
Let's put it this way: people expect the future to be more like star trek and less like 40k. Yes, star trek humanity ain't the utopia the federation thinks it is, specially in the frontiers, but at least in the core planets life is pretty good. But even living at the cardacian border is not as bad as much of the 40k universe.
Humans when they die have their souls eaten, played with, or just disappear. Disappearing is a much better fate and the most common one. Other races besides the Orks and Tau are all going to hell (the warp) or oblivion at some point, they are exceptions but these are too few to matter in terms of not suffering.......so heresy.?
Actually its all but implied that the emperor himself can capture human souls even as far back as the Heresy.
Battles and atrocities in the 40k universe are spaced off by centuries or even millenia. Millions live peaceful and productive lives without seeing war in their entire lifetimes. By contrast, the average 50 year old citizen of the United Federation of Planets in the 24th Century has lived through three full-scale wars, seen hundreds of colonies destroyed and even seen Earth directly threatened a couple of times.
i wouldnt consider slaving away in a hive world as a peaceful productive life
@@Prophetofthe8thLegion Naaaah, it was a jab at the "utopian" UFP, and its permanent imperialist wars of expansion.
Every fictional universe has inconsistencies that can be used to undermine its core message, after all.
@@Prophetofthe8thLegion,
Yeah good point, especially when you’re a literal slave.
Me:See’s Title
Also me: Umm no
“Their has been many advancements in technology.”
He says as yet another human falls into a vat of molten metal because they haven’t found the stc for guard rails.
Last time I was this early the emperor still walked among men
I didn't know our world had become so wretched that somebody would be tempted by 40k universe GRIMDARK!!! lifestyle.
When I heard all of that "advance in medicine prolonging human life", an image of a 40k doctor comes in my mind "Anesthetic is expensive for the like of you, so we are not going to use it."
40k has sisters of battle, can't be that bad.
You walk up to one, try calling her 'Blondie'. -Not even the Emperor will protecc You.
yeah, cause brainwashed, zealous warrior-nuns you only ever see on hyperreligious planets, after a chaos invasion or before a purge of heretics are a positive, I guess?! because they have boobs?
@@FulloutPostal no, courageous women with big guns is awesome. But the big mammary glands definitely don't hurt. Armored or not.
@@smity739 I wouldn't really call it courage, given how indoctrinated they are...
now, I'm not playing down facing literal demons and whatnot, but to me it's the same "courage" we see today in certain individuals being promised 72 virgins after death...
@@FulloutPostal as where the crusades, the Salem witch trials, the forced abortions of children with none Hebrew fathers and so on and so on. But in 40k, fighting dark gods who want to eat your soul and their servants is not religious propaganda, it's a fact of every day life. And they do have a choice, enough sisters of battle and space marines have gone over to chaos to prove, that there is always a choice. And the loyal sisters of battle made the choice NOT to worship a pantheon with a deity of chicks with dicks violently bdsm butt sex. True, the modern imperium is not what the emperor wanted, it's what the chaos gods wanted. They sabotaged the emperors efforts to cause the fall of the federation of man, the fall of the eldar, the death of the last old one, the dark age of the galaxy and the current state of the galaxy. The emperor made mistakes, but he did not torture souls for all time or reduce people to control them, he was uplifting the human race as a whole. He is not the worst thing in the galaxy. And the sisters are not unique in their fanaticism or violence, but they are one of the few factions that have entire orders dedicated to helping others.
40k universe has a lot element that are lovecraftian in nature like the fact that everything is trying to kill off humanity or twisted into something else.
Me: looks at the title...
Also me: 'You gotta be kidding me right?'
I can imagine myself dying on a guardsman duty....
The majority of people tend to forget that the overwhelming majority of places in the Imperium of Man haven't actually seen conflict for tens of thousands of years. Yes, millions of world are wared over daily. Billions aren't, though, at the same time. There are plenty of normal Imperial Worlds and Agri Worlds that are more-or-less like living on earth right now, but with better technology. Most of these worlds will never even see a pirate flotilla, let alone an actual invasion force.
Most likely because they did not even show up in the top 100 maps ;)
@Edalwulf Bergmann ah most worlds of the Star Wars universe have never seen a war or get not attacked in a million years, sure there are few worlds of Imperium of Man are peaceful. But still 40k is mostly at War, and I would rather lived in the Star Wars universe than of Warhammer 40k.
@@hughgedney3393 Wrong.
Star Wars is a much smaller place, and the Republic has only existed for ~10,000 years by the time of the Empire
Almost every single world in Star Wars knows war within the last hundred years at any given point. They fight eachother, they have the Republic or Empire wage wars of subjugation against them, etc. Pirates, for them, are even a legitimate risk to many planets' sovereignty, especially in the outer rim, where they're all on their own, more-or-less.
Just because the Republic hadn't gone to war as a whole for a thousand years before the Clone Wars doesn't mean that individual worlds didn't wage war against oneanother.
(which is incorrect, they went to war with the Mandalorian Empire a few decades before the Clone Wars on behalf of the Jedi Order because the Jedi were terrified that the Mandalorians would decide to expand their boarders again. The Jedi were the ones that devastated Mandalore, not the Mandalorians.)
The imperium has the best medical tech but just like the US... it's only accessble to the richest
Not really,
In Many Novels it is Saids Most Planets in the Inner Reach of the Imperium is relatively Fine and Get the Fruits of the 41st Millennium from life Extension and Relative Luxury similar to ours.
Just that the Death worlds and the Forge Worlds gets all the Highlights.
If I had to choose, I would much rather join the Astra Miltarum than be a factory worker. Despite the survival rate and life expectancy being Astra-nomically low. (I'm sorry) it would be much better than slowly dying from exhaustion, hunger or carcinogenic fumes while being overworked in some overcrowded factory. And if I got incredibly lucky, climbing the ranks would grant me more benefits and a better life than the average human. And considering the callousness towards human life in the 41st millennium, I'd have more to gain than lose. 95% chance of being pulped by some cosmic horror, 5% chance of surviving long enough to climb the ranks rather than 100% chance of dying of sickness/hunger or work related accident. 5% of having a somewhat decent life is still 5x better than 0%. That's all I'm saying.
So you're saying you don't want to live in the states and be working class...
@@BullScrapPracEff I mean, a bit exaggerated, but to a degree, yeah. Lol.
At least the ones who fight there are mostly adults. In Interim Coalition of Independence from Xelee , the fighters are usually kids/teens, plus naval tactics are pretty much : find an asteroid, make it a weapons platform with trenches, send it towards targets location and "win" or die trying
Of course yet Space Marines are recruited as indoctrinated boys over 10-12 or 16-18 years of age. They will undergo several horrendous surgeries, implants and augmentations without anesthetics so they can become a fully developed 7 - 8ft tall super soldiers or brain dead servitors if they didn't make the cut. So yeah mostly adults who sacrificed their childhood and manhood because Space Marines can't f*ck anymore, for the Emperor.
@@svagglaorde4387 don't mention the Order Assassinorum receuitment
if you live on a Hive, Death, Fortress or Forge World yeah it sucks to be you. Same if you live on most Chapter owned planets. But there are 100000s upon 10000s of planets in the Imperium that are Shrine Worlds dedicated to worship, or agri worlds where they grow food, civilized worlds where the quality of life is similar to our own, no two planets are exactly alike and I'm sure for some worlds it has been 1000s of year since they PDF has had anything to do but exterminate feral orks or the odd pirate raid. Not to mention the worlds outside of the Light of the Astronomican that have never even heard of the Imperium.
Try live in catchan jungle planet 😂
I really dont know why alot of these people keep calling how bad things are in 40k tbh, like you get to fight aliens and demons with advanced weapons and armor and die as a hero with your brothers
In reality right now during covid you sit at home feeling depressed and eventually die anyway.
American Ben: In 40k the galaxy is in a constant state of war!
Me: Where do I sign?
You can sign in the nearest marine corps recruitment office. The US has being in a constant state of war for many decades now.
@@Alkis05 counter-insurgency ain’t as fun as conventional!
That implys you have a choice citizen!
*Takes note of his name for future investigation*
Generation Films,
Actually humanity is only United in 40k because the emperor conquered almost every other group of humans in existence, not simply because of hostile Xenos. Also, not only would life be hellish for the common citizen of the Imperium, but their afterlife sounds a lot like Hell. No thank you. Warhammer 40k is that bad.
Personally for normal humans I think life is about as bad as it gets; they work massive long shifts with only a few hours in between to eat and sleep before the next shift starts. Imagine working 14 hours a day 7 days a week every week of every year with little to no rest. And you don't think life is as bad as people make out? That is awful as life expectancy on a hive world is around 30 years or so; give or take a year or 2.
If the Xenos turn up your life expectancy depletes alone with the invasion; in the case of Tyranids you'll be food within a day. I know in the fiction they have been stopped but for every planet that makes it through a Tyranid invasion 1000 more die.
Nope; I'd rather live in the Star Wars universe thanks. It's not ridiculously utopian like Star Trek and instead life is pretty much normal. Don't get me wrong it still has its bad points (deep levels of cities just like the underhives) but still, places like Harlem and Brixton aren't much better in the real world.
I think in terms of realism Aliens universe has it about right; people are expendable to feed "The Company", as long as the rich keep getting richer everyone else doesn't matter.
That’s the reason I like the alien universe because it’s true.Look at the companies you see today lobbying the government to pass laws that benefits them now multiply that by 10
As a fan of 40k for 3 decades and one deeply entrenched in its lore I totally agree with you. There is little difference in being a human in the modern age as there is being one in the Grimdark. 40k is only satire of the 20th century written by British metal heads in the 1980's.....
Collaboration with Xenos? You disappoint me Neb
"the imperium innovated technology" annnd just like that you've committed heresy against the omnissiah
I will still take the collapsing COVID-19 America over almost all of the 40k universe.
FgUoCoKgYIOeU,
I would take that over all of the 40k universe, because at least we know that that horror will be over soon.
Out Ruskie.
@@GargamelGold I love that there are optimistic people out there. I can't muster it myself.
@@Alkis05,
They’ve already started vaccinating people in large numbers. That’s a very good sign.
@@GargamelGold But there are also new virus variants spreading at record rates, maybe faster then the vaccine is being distribuited. If the vaccine don't reach people fast enough, the majority of people is going to get seek before the vaccine roll out.
"Excuse me Inquisitor, this video right here."
"At least you'll die in an interesting way! Unless your resurrected as a semi-sentient servitor. Or your soul is stolen by a chaos God. Or your captured by Dark Eldar."
uh my guy the technology the imperium uses is outdated my millennia and very ineffective. It hasn't progressed at all only digressed over 10,000 years
Life doesn’t need to be hard Gue’la. The T’au va is there for you. Embrace it and join us and choose the path of kauyun or Mont’ka.
I mean if you are going to be stuck in 40k the only place to be is with the Tau. Their leaders almost certainly have some nefarious purposes but overall it is the best faction to be a part of from a quality of life standpoint. And with their Greater Good philosophy you can even have freedom of religion!
@@joshuahogan3475
Except Tau would be fucked as soon as they encount with anyone else other than humanity.
@@GuitarsRockForever The Tau have beaten a Tyranid Incursion, Necrons, an Ork Invasion, and a Imperium retaliation fleet. I know this because I was bored one week and basically binged a WH40K lore site. 😅 The Tau's biggest weakness is lack of FTL, it's what prevents them from becoming a major player in the 40K universe.
@@joshuahogan3475
Tau beat necron and tyranid with the force of imperium. They cannot do it by themselves.
Also they have FTL, just not as advanced as everyone else.
Tau has impressive technologies and ability to adopt and develop new technology fast. But they will be fucked once chaos got their attention. Technology alone doesn't work that well in 40k universe.
@@GuitarsRockForever oh no. They defeated a Tyranid Incursion by themselves. And it wasn't even the full Tau Empire, it was a splinter group that beat them. They had to sacrifice a planet to do it but they won.
Also, the lack of FTL is in the updated Lore. They retconned the slow FTL of older editions, which seems stupid to me but I don't own the publisher so. 🤷🏼
I kind of don't understand how this doesn't have more downvotes. This dude sits in a comfy room with posters on the wall and explains that the whole Hive World thing isn't really so bad.
I sort of agree with him If you consume enough 40k content beyond the surface level you will notice that many people on the setting actually live quite average life and not everyone lives in absolute hellholes,hell thee are worlds with little wars that never even seen Space Marines.Yes,in general it would suck to live in the Universe, but if you would born in some wealthy family on a world that not touched by the war much you may have an pretty good life.
I would welcome not having a soul if that saves me from having to deal with the hellish after-life of the Warp. I mean, dying once just to endure a second death with a "colorful amount of possible variaties"?!
I prefer believing to be an amalgamation of cells that is somehow self-aware instead of subscribing to the narcissistic view of seeing humankind as something "special".
all depends on who you are and where you live:
A noble living full time on a safe and protected pleasure world, that is DREAM LIFE right there
High lord of Terra? good life is a little too much responsibility.
A rich guy living in the upper portion of a well-protected hive city. still living the good life
A regular white-collar worker in any civil administration or business on the upper-mid part of a hive city, you'll still have it better than here
Going full space marine mode, tough but rewarding.
rogue traders? you win some you lose some, you could be rich, or be dead.
16-hour day factory worker making lazguns? nope
18-hour day corpse harvesting in the undercity? yeah no thanks
Guardsmen? that is hell
Servator? even worse
being evicerated, mutilated, and violated by any xenos or even worse, sleenesh cultists? that is definitely not worth it.
People in 40k: "It would be amazing to live in 2k earth, the age of technology and progress!"
People currently living 21st century: "Well, yesn't well let put this simple you guys still have meaning."
40K >>> 2K
The way I see it, a lot of the main horrors of the Warhammer 40k universe seem to be from the battlefield itself. As long as you're not in an actual warzone, I don't see how daily-life for ordinary people would be any worse than it was for say, factory workers in Stalin's USSR or a farm-labourer in medieval Europe. That's to say, *not good*, but not apocalyptically terrible either.
Good argument, but that would still be a HELL NO from wanting to be anywhere to the 40K timeline. unless it was the Golden Age of Man.
The Imperium "has innovated"...stop there. That's wrong.
My Species right or wrong. I can weep at the state of affairs, but if we are alive to weep and be wept for. So be it.
Orkz love every minute of 40k. Just saying.
The title theoretically applies in the places where all the Stories we know about the 40K universe isn't taking place but how much money do ya wanna bet that it never finds you.
Depends on the world your from.
*Look at the title*
*Host by american ben*
Me: mm-hmm
40K is really one of those places where "The enemy of my enemy, is just the next to be killed"
It's an interesting idea. Humanity has moved well beyond what we are now. And despite the chaotic nature there are worlds untouched by the destruction. I think it depends mostly life would suck but if your lucky you would benefit from the positives like the medical technology and areas that aren't affected by war.
That is, until the Tyranids, Chaos, Orks, Tau, the Imperium, or Necrons inevitably find that world (or wake up on it in the Necron’s case) and kill everyone.
@@TmanTheTdog yeah it's pretty much guaranteed to sour the mood.
People going into 40k
Everyone: I wanna be a Space Marine/Sisters of Battle/Adeptus Mechanicus.
Some: Xeno races.
Me: Dons flak armor and Lasgun as an Imperial Guard.
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Yes I would totally choose the IG 100 percent of the time.
Each planet in the Imperum has its own goverment. Witch mean's that ther are republics and considering the size of the Imperum, thers probuly worlds that are pecfull.
*Watching the news:* *Plop,* *The UN-flag is exchanged with the two-headed eagle...* -Time to worry.
(-and no, I'm not talking about the contemporary icons used by several 'institutions' of the 21th century).
Cosmo Sturges,
But those “republics” could hardly be liberal democracies without things like freedom of religion. I hardly think I would want to live anywhere in 40k
This is true. There are a million+ planets in the Imperium. Every kind of world exists. From horrific Mad Max wastelands to beautiful and peaceful pleasure worlds. There’s worlds that are just like our modern day Earth with a few obvious differences.
@@GargamelGold you are free from religion. As long as you understand that the main god in your pantheon is the Emperor. And dont say "but my religion." As if you are born in the imperium your religion is the Emperor it is just a fact the Great Crusade insured that.
@@shadow435100,
And that’s supposed to make it okay? Yeah that’s such a “compelling” argument. I’m glad that 40k is not real.
Oh and if you’re about to argue that things like genuine freedom of speech and religion would never work in 40k, that’s just another reason to be happy that’s not the world we live in.
See their are plenty of good lives. If you live mid Hive or up its not so bad. Also if you live on a paradise world, post industrial world, realm of Ultramar, Baal after the Devastation of Baal, these all are pretty good. The people that live on the edge of the Imperium or next to Necron empires, or in Drukari raiding areas or around a Warp rift then you will likely not see any war in your life time unless you get conscripted to the Guard, or a Tyranid Hive fleet or GeneStealer cult uprising happens. Now if you life in the Imperium Nighalis and are not around Baal it sucks rights now for sure but before the rift it was not that bad. See the Eisenhorn, Ravenor, Tanith First and Only books when they are on respite from the front line. As well as many more show this. The stories just focus on the wars as that's the most interesting part.
Yeah, but imagine how bad doomscrolling is gonna be.
Even if I were to luck out and be a planetary governor, or live on a paradise planet in a quiet sector, or both I'd still not want to be in the 40k universe. The threat of horrifying gruesome death is too high. Much the less the chance of being turned into a flesh slave/machine for dissing on our glorious skeleton on his golden toilet...oh crap
Paradise world is a very misunderstood term. Its basically a planet sized bordell. And the citizens are the prostitutes
I knew nothing of Warhammer 40k until I watched the video that inspired this video a couple of months ago. Since then I have immersed myself into the lore to learn of this unknown universe. What I have learned has shocked me, and now all I can do is despair that I do not have the ability to serve the Emperor. I sir would most definitely want to be inserted into the world of 40k so that I may bask in the glory of the Empire of Man and be given the opportunity to die for The Emperor even if it was just as a guardsmen being shredded by some unspeakable horror of the Warp. Unfortunately I will have to live out my days just reading the novels in shame.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I agree, but for different reasons. With the absolute massive size of the galaxy, it would be reasonably to presume that most of the Imperium would still be decent enough to live....depending on where you find yourself. For the Xeno races, most of the Tau live heavily doctrined lives where everything is already decided for them so I imagine they live somewhat contently seeing how that's just how they like things. The Eldar have either the strict life styles of the Craftworlders to stave off corruption, but it seems like most of them are fine with it, and the Exodites who might as well be Space Wood Elves and they like it just fine on their Maiden Worlds and would like it even more if you fuck off. Orks love anywhere there's a fight so naturally they get the best deal out of anyone else in the setting.
EDIT: I just want to say that the Humanity we see in 40k is well past their golden age. The Humanity we see is essentially in an extended dark age that continues to get darker as the wall close in around them. So much like the rest of the setting, the good ol' days were better.
Plus there's no Hope. The Humans of 40k aren't people who strive for anything they are stagnant and will soon be a footnote in Time.
join the guard and live near a ship yard you'll be fine
The only place that seems tolerable to live in 40k is the Tau Empire, and they're probably going to be one of the first to go extinct in the 3 way deathmatch between the Tyranids, demons, and the Necrons.
4 way deathmatch: Tyranids, Daemons, Necrons, and ORKZ. They're the most populus race in the galaxy, and their junkyard tech becomes unbelievably advanced and powerful (if unpredictable) when a WAAAGH is in effect. And they don't back down, no matter the cost.
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Imagine getting hit by a nurgle blight grenade a few weeks out of guardsmen school.... Imagine being the guy having to fuel up humanity spacefaring ships.
Wouldn’t be as bad? No... it would be worse
i'll only accept being sent to the 40k universe if i get to be an Ork, or perhaps a space marine. But preferably orks. They're the only ones with a " Good" life and having fun XD
Great Job! Made some very good points.
Did he forget the Dark Age od Technology, or the Cult of the Machine specifically forbidding innovation