Gundam Unicorn - What is Laplace's Box?
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
- In this video I will discuss what the elusive object of all ideological desire, Laplace's Box, is, how it functions and what it reveals to us about the status quo and the hope for change.
Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn is likely my favorite incarnation of the Gundam Franchise as of yet. It ties together all of the threads that started with the original Tomino Gundams way back in the 70s and 80s. It reveals in open terms the realities of modern colonialism and with its investigation of the ideologies that lead to these conflicts also can allow us to rethink the failures of the 20th century.
The question remains: Can we hope for change when this precarious status quo is already on the verge of collapsing? If I may, dear reader of this description, this feels very applicable to todays political predicament. Can one hope for a future without falling into ideological catastrophe? Is the status quo which already is a catastrophe more desirable than taking that risk?
Gundam Unicorn is also interested in these questions.
Go watch it.
Music in this video is from:
- AD Police Files
- Gundam Unicorn
- 999
- Digital Devil Saga
"Will history repeat itself?"
If they want to sell more gunplas yes
thats gundam for ya!
War, war never changes. Sorry, butting in from the Fallout series.
@@phragmitesaustralis5433 That Line is Universal
During times of conflict history is sometimes is destroyed. This how events from the past repeats itself. However, this can be avoided by those who are well educated on the historic events, and share their knowledge with everyone. This insures history doesn’t repeat itself, yet that is something only the people to decide. For what choices should be made for the future. For better or worse.
Count how many model variant kits were released for Unicorn/NT.... Bandai is milking us like cows!
The Box did create peace as temporary as it is for almost around 30 years. so peaceful that EF lost most of its influence and power that when Jupiter empire and Zanscare invade they need helps from an army of Pirates/volunteers (Crossbone Vanguard and League Militaire) just to push them back with great cost.
did it though? Hathaway's flash is next
@blogsanjay1031 hathaway is not canon, it takes place in a timeline the unicorn didn't exist
@@blogsanjay1031 Pretty sure the novels timeline is different and hathaway is originally a novel trilogy. Kinda confusing tbh
Laplace's Box was a red herring to distract you from what really stopped the Zeonic conflicts.
The most pivotal moment in history for the UC was when one man:
Suberoa Zinnerman
Did the hardest thing that any one man could ever do with his life>
He gave up on the memory of his dead daughter for the sake of his living one.
When it hurt him more than anything else he liberated the world's most powerful woman
From life as a slave.
F for marida cruz and zinnerman child
"Will history repeat itself?"
Turn A gundam Newtype Pilot: Sure but it will repeat after another 5,000 years.
Then itll go repeating and repeating in endless starcase towards eternity. With every cycle ends with Turn A clutches
When I watched Unicorn I thought the whole time that Laplace's Box was some reference to the concept of Laplace's demon and that it would be some kind of infinite energy device or thermodynamic super weapon. As the series went on I was thinking "What could it possible be to, narratively, justify all this attention and death and violence. I can't imagine what it could possibly be that I won't be disappointed". Turns out the Unicorn writers are far more creative than I am because they absolutely justified it. I cried when it was revealed what was in the box. I cried watching this video.
ZZ totally surprised me. Once you get past the silliness of it, there's a great story to be enjoyed there
I know stuff like F91 and Victory exist. But I tend to just pretend UC ends with Unicorn. With Laplace’s box opened. And a new optimistic outlook for mankind. Maybe things aren’t perfect. But things are looking up.
TBH, that's the point of Gundam Unicon, nothing really changed after the releast of the Laplace Box, which was basically the last chance of the Fed to change. Which is when you get to Hathaway, you see the begining of the end of the Earth Federation, all the way through to 0223 where the government is completely desolved.
@@Apollo-tj1vm Hathaway is so good.
If I may say, I don't take F91 and Victory seriously because there were a number of problems in their making. F91 was meant to be a series but instead became a movie, and the story had consistency problem. In Victory, Tomino was going through depression making that series. So... yeah I agree Unicorn is a better way to end the UC series. Haven't watch Hathaway yet
You'd really have to pretend that UC ends with Unicorn to even accept it as part of canon. And the best part of this option is that it means that Narrative never happens.
laplax box is personification of problems of modern japan. when I lived in japan there was a case where court sentenced a pedophile to 6 years in prison instead of 17 judging him according to old 100 year old law instead of more modern one. I remember many people criticized this incident but in end nothing happened and everyone forgot about it within a year. in my opinion author took this incident and brought it to point of absurdity in order to ridicule japanese society.
Underrated channel. Glad to see someone else out there who seems capable of looking at Unicorn past the surface level.
It's so hard to explain why Frontal is such a beautiful character to someone who's never experienced Char. It's so difficult to convey the genius of Laplace's box to someone who never bothered with the politics behind newtypes in Gundam.
Harutoshi Fukui is a genius. He managed to tie together the entire early UC into a more cohesive narrative - even explaining why the Federation always seemed so abhorred by the thought of newtypes even in original Gundam.
Thank you again for this video.
**looks at F91, Crossbone, and Victory**
Didn’t do any good in the end, did it?
At least it put the ghost of Zeon to rest....
Tessa Augustin
No because every villain faction in these shows just comes off as another version of Zeon 🤦🏻♂️
@@Alexzander1989 or worse.
@@tessaaugustin9700 Oldsmobilearmy on Mars
Peace came after the resolution of Zeon in UC 100. Space remained relatively peaceful for the next 23 years, with exception to Mafty's insurrection which accomplished very little, unless you wanna count it into what inevitably makes the Federation start to demilitarise and pull out of the colonies.
By the year 123, the EF cares little about what happens in the colonies. When Cosmo Babylonia appears, they wave it off as colony struggles which they will neither engage with or persecute. Right of self rule is essentially accomplished.
I bet 2 bucks that the "one piece" is something similar to the Laplace's Box.
Oh for sure!
Wasn't the creator confirmed that One Piece is a literal pile of gold and not friend that they made along the way?
@@justnoob8141 well one piece contain 500 year blank history of the world.
You really helped me to refresh what the laplace box is as I was watching the movie gundam narrative. I can't give this video enough likes with just one account haha. Thanks for sharing this
Just as Pandora’s box in Greek mythology. Once sent down to earth & opened. All of the evil contained within was unleashed on to humanity a punishment engineered by Zeus king of the gods, who already punished humanity’s creator, Prometheus. The titan who stole fire from pantheon throne room’s hearth to enlighten humanity about their potential and to evolve their intelligence. However, despite evil being released into the world. At the bottom of box their was the power of hope. The power of hope was to help humanity over come the chaos of the evils. Yet again if hope’s power was used in incorrectly or is abused... it would retaliate against humanity and would turn into despair. That what they meant that Laplace’s box can destroy the world. If one abuses the box’s power even conflicts far worse will be born and humanity might as well destroy itself.
Just as you said this is why Laplace’s box is prayer and a curse depending on how humanity gets its act together
Wonderfully put. Thanks!
It did in the far future with the turn A well most the moon was somewhat.
This is a criminally underrated analysis. We can definitely see how vast the inspirations and tropes of early science fiction plays into Gundam - given that it did emerge during that golden age.
P.S.+ Just checked out the rest of your channel, subscribed ! Keep it up, hope you get more views.
This video deserve so much more views. Awesome job!
พี่คิดว่าจะทำเรื่องกล่องแห่งลาพลัสโดยเฉพาะเลยมั้ยครับ ว่ามันคืออะไร บรรจุอะไรเอาไว้
"EVEN SO"
"Yes, even so..."
Someday
THE FUTURE REFUSED TO CHANGE.
This is the last gundam to be casted with the late Ichiro Nagai(original va for Degwin Sodo Zabi) as Syam Vist before his death.
La+ Box is the original charter of the Universal Century, acknowledging the existence of Newtypes and acknowledging them as a new species of human, almost superior in many ways
"If some future spacenoid weirdos actually exist and are discovered at some indeterminate point in the future, they should maybe have a part in the government, maybe."
ACKNOWLEDGED
Kinda goes as the opposite of Gundam X's take on newtypes.
You deserve so many more views man! This is great stuff!
Thank you! I’ve heard a few very good explanations of Unicorn Gundam, but this was by far the clearest and most interesting!
Damn this video explains unicorn and a lot of universal century so well, definitely a underrated video and explanation omg so good
Mobile Suite Gundam Unicorn is amazing, so is this video. I'm really glad of having finding this channel
8:49 them song goes hard.
The box is stating the possible future for a better world and Mineva's willingness to see the best in others, is exactly the argument Amuro was making. Sadly, more war continues 27 years later as nothing changed. Also, life became so complicates that so much violence had to lead to the correct century. The narrator forgot about gundam 0083.
One thing that’s super cool to look into is how much so many points of gundam unicorn really link up with trotskys permanent revolution, it’s a really cool thing and honestly wouldn’t be surprised if some themes were exchanges there on purpose!
I'm so glad I stumbled into your channel, Gundam has a lot of politics and I'm happy you actually talk about it
That's my favorite part!
A marvelous video it really instills hope, i have my own watch list for Gundam but its sadly very long and standard.
Origin
79
Cacaroza Island
8th MS team
0080
0083
Zeta
ZZ
CCA
Unicorn(OVA not series)
Moon gundam
NT
Hathaways Flash
F91
Then your done Victory is largely unnecessary, F91 is my end point for now because it shows the box worked the EFF has pulled out of the colonies abd they are self governing, for better or worse they are free.
If you wanna also add manga go with Blue Destiny, Ecole Du Ciel, Moon Gundam and Crossbone even if it adds into Victory as it cupminates the Jupiter Empire saga thats been brewing since the start of the UC era.
You explained it so thoroughly and as a whole and easier to understand I commend your insight into the series for me Laplace's box is a parallel to the Gundam Mobile Suit it can either be used as a weapon to destroy and enslave or to save and liberate!
Kudos, that was actually a good vid and a good explanation
SORE DEMOOOOO~
thank you!
Violence is a core principle of national communism. It is in the manifesto, "peaceful" communism does not exist.
I love Unicorn and its one of my favorite Gundam series but the its also the hardest to recommend to other people with the sole reason it isnt stand alone. You really need to have seen at the minimum that you've seen MSG (or the movie counter parts), Zeta and Char's counter attack before watching Unicorn
So basically, watch all the shows set before Unicorn. Got it.
Great video!!
UNIVERSAL CENTURY IS MY FAVORITE FICTIONAL UNIVERSE EVER AND GUNDAM UNICORN IS MY FAVORITE STORY OF ALL TIME!
Hehe. I just have to tell you, this video made me smile. The way you examined this anime's themes and messages.
Also, I feel like Zeta was kind of critical of rigid gender roles in a way. Emma, being strong, independent and principled, vs Reccoa seeing he role needing to be submissive to a man which causes her to betray her cause.
*SPOILER ALERT HERE*
In the final battle when Emma and Reccoa fought each other, Emma felt Reccoa's feelings, and Emma began to almost sympathize with her, and then at that moment, she got hit by debris from an explosion, which to me, kind of symbolized a punishment for even bothering to entertain Reccoa's worldview, seeing it as beneath consideration.
cough *ideology* cough
I had a bad feeling about la plazas box. Because it reminded me of the sarcophagus from vampire the Mascarade. The thing could have been empty but it still caused lots of grief.
So la Plazas box had me sweating.
Laplace as in Laplace's Demon...
Its the charter for the space noids who will be added to humanity...a transformed human who can exist in space...we see Benger gain access to the siacenoifs power in the final episode and the black unicirn reminds him he would be able to exist wuth the Princess in this new state...and he's returned to the human form...the box seems related to the various new types that exist the space noise being a form of new type too.
The unicorn believes in the gid known as possibility but can be referred to as the beast of possibility too...
For me it’s just the build up to the box being important and the characters I was invested in that made the reveal the most infuriating.
So many people have lost their lives for this thing. An entire colony of people were either crushed, blown up, shot or sucked into the void of space to die a horrific death for it, an entire town of innocent people were blown to hell and Zeon rebels were brutally murdered because of it. A child is without a father for this thing and what is it? Nothing more than words from an old and forgotten charter that the federation could ignore anyway.
So many people in this show died for basically nothing whether they were willing in giving their lives or not and all that’s there to show for the sacrifice and war crimes made by either side of this conflict is nothing more than one insignificant article!?
Look I know this didn’t happen, this is a franchise based around giant humanoid robot suits flying around in space I’m not an idiot. But still that shows how invested I got into the story that I remembered all the characters that died in order to get to that stupid box to begin with.
I dunno it just seems really cheap and downright offensive to just have so much death and misery in your show for the pay off to it all being some old ass policy that a dictatorship like the Federation can and probably did easily dismiss.
I disagree, i believe you can keep your opinion but I want to offer my perspective. Laplace box is a mcguffin, and mcguffins are usually super boring like a powerup or deadly weapon. But when the mcguffins is actually something symbolic, like a law removed from history. That is very interesting. It's a mcguffins that is used as a mcguffin by characters within the story. The characters recognize the absurdity of Laplace box, but still use it to their advantage.
Sure it's a law that the federation could've ignored, but the symbolism is super important. To put in perspective in the real world. Imagine the American government hiding another article within the constitution that says something along the lines of prioritizing the introduction minorities into the government. It would be absolutely insane, the whole country would lose so much faith in United States government but because the government hadn't revealed for so long, they can't reveal it now either.
Even more so if the United States was super corrupt(not saying it isn't rn) and oppressive to minorities and actively barring minorities from entering a government and even segregating territories so that minorities can only live in a poor section of the country. In the case of minorities trying to form a republic of their own, the hidden article would validate the minorities trying to form their own republic. It wouldn't be a stretch to have people sacrificing themselves trying to reveal this hidden article to prove the government was in the wrong. This situation would be a mirror to the federation and zeon. In the uc timeline federation were being oppressive to spacenoids.
Mobile Gundam Universal Century in a nutshell: and then, it got worse
So.. Basically Full Frontal was right?
Also, damn.. After watching this video LaPlace's Box was a dumber McGuffin than I thought.
What is Laplace Box?
Me: Watch the show lol!!!
Also me: The pen is mightier than the sword.
So is Full Frontal Char? I was always confused.
Full Frontal is a clone of Char, a vessel inhabiting the more cynical and nihilistic aspects of Char's soul.
Then after go in unicorn you need watch Narrative
I always wondered Why the hell Amuro and Bright are keep serving a faction who despises them, feared them, and even treated them badly?
The Feddies did nothing at all to helping the AEUG to fought against the Titans and Neo Zeon, forcing them to fight bith of them on their own or had to reliying on Karaba.
They're only care about their own stuffs as they're letting the colony dropped on Dublin, a city full of civilians and fine with it as they seeing it as an efficient way to control the populations, forcing people to immigrates to space colonies (which is ironically the exact same thing Char trying to do), and directed the dropping colony to the populated area instead of somewhere empty or sacrifing their base to save people.
They're only care about their own face and image by deleting the entire data and records of GP Project, leaving the EXAM (and possibly HADES) incident unrecorded, abandoning all of the Titans images, which is a squadron they themselves formed to hunted Zeon remnants, trying to covering up or destroying the Laplace Box from revealing it to the public, and even changing its contents, and somehow managed to makes things unchanged despite the box is opened, resulting all of the efforts and sacrifices Banagher and Mineva make become in vain, and even deliberately didn't telling Bright that they've captured and executing Hathaway (AKA Mafty Navue Erin) first.
They didn't even gave the Spacenoids a right to govern independently, and even heavily rejected Newtypes existance by creating the multiple Newtype eliminating machines. But at least Sayla, Kai, and one of the former White Base crew, Oscar Dublin are aware of that.
If Amuro and Bright still think that the Feddies still can be change, unfortunately they're wrong, as they got collapsed and disbanded in UC. 218 after losing influences due to the multiple conflicts and corruption.
Full frontal was right in the end
If the Dark Century is canon like we've all been shown it to be, then No, Peace was NEVER achieved in fact it's quite the opposite Gundams Mobile Suits War in general continued on and on for centuries until humanity was forced to forget in the hopes it wouldn't be repeated. G-Recca is what follows so war still continues to be waged eons later. Peace is an ideology that can never be maintained as long as there are multiple factions vying for supremeacy, opposing ideals, religion, resources, and land the only way that stops is if a third party FORCES humanity to unite and to keep the absurdity of war in check. This was shown blatantly within the 00 franchise with Celestial Being's Armed Interventions, which were working until Alhandro Quarter and Ribbons screwed everything up for their own warped purposes. Ribbons wasn't entirely wrong though, Humanity as a whole needs better leadership under one person that CAN get the job done. I'm not saying each country can't be managed by other leaders if anything it eases stress and tension with properly running them but having a single person with a good head on their shoulders, who's a realist, and has adequate knowledge could easily make things more streamlined on more "Global Matters" that has nothing to do with any single nation but humanity as a whole. This is my opinion though.
But they explain what it is in the show, though. This video makes no sense 7.8/10
Some people (including myself tbh) may fail to fully grasp the importance and the reasoning behind the hunt for the box and the content of the box itself. This video just further explains in a more cohesive way using references outside of the series. It's not pointless.
Dude, you really need to do a follow up on Hathaway's Flash, ok, NT is not that important politically, but there are some important stuff that could be summarized, but Hathaway's Flash is a must.
I should *really* watch Hathaway's Flash but I'm still considering waiting for all of the movies to finish releasing.
@@Nyard is a good move, I watched the first and now I'm anxious for the others, I also should've waited lol
the power of loot box! hahahaha
please do a video on newtypes
Man I always wonder what I can't understand about Gundam Unicorn story, and now I find the answer (besides all of those newtype's bullshit space magic)
Well I started with unicorn so...
many died just for a speech
Easy. It's the worse ending since destiny. Or if you want to keep it uc then since turn A
What music specifically is used in this video? A lot of it is amazing and one track sounds a lot like Re: i am.
I can't give you the exact track names anymore, but the shows and games I took music from are listed in the description.
start 00
i watched gundam unicorn first, whoops
What songs in particular where used?
slight misogyny, damn..... the pilot go insane in the end because of this XD
It changed very little in the grand scope of things sadly.
That's the joke
@@tedhodge4830
That doesn’t make it less unfortunate. Sadly.
I'm so sorry but I don't quite get it. So why did Mineva chose to reveal Laplace's box? Because she believed in the possibility of what happening?
To put it simply there are two outcomes if the Laplace Box gets revealed: 1.) Nothing, back to status-quo, the two sides will just continually wage war that has no end. Or 2.) Understanding, that with it's revelation the Federation will undergo a reform to kick out the corrupt politicians who took advantage of the Laplace incident and honor the original Charter for the Universal Century and for Zeon to stop hostilities once it's honored. Mineva choose to believe in the latter.
The Federation wasn't for Earth alone, it was for everyone. For every Human, regardless if that Human was an Old-type or a New-type. Both have a right to have a say in the Federation. Zeon could've been part of the Federation as just another country in outer space, just as countries such as USA, Australia, Japan, etc... are part of the Federation
Double zeta wasn't that bad honestly
Why am I here? lol
I'd say if you're at all into Gundam anything, you really do owe it to yourself to watch MSG/Zeta/ZZ/Char's Counterattack/Unicorn. If you're not into Gundam, I don't know if I 'd start there. 1979 Gundam's pacing is bad and how women are regarded in the show is really not great by today's standards. Zeta has similar problems. The pacing's a bit better, but the series is very depressing and it's not really better in terms of how it regards women. ZZ is not as well regarded mostly because of the tonal whiplash after Zeta, but just run with it when the time comes. And without these as a backdrop, Unicorn just doesn't make a lot of sense.
I'd start in an OVA or one of the alternate universes. Which one depends. If you can handle a really dark ending, 0080 is a good start. If that's a little much, 08th MS Team has more modern animation and gives you a great place to jump into the One Year War. I also like the idea of Iron Blooded Orphans to get an idea of what you're in for before diving into UC. Because once you dive into UC, you're really going to find that you kinda need to watch three whole series and then some to really understand the story.
Unicorn doesn't make much sense regardless of whether you watch all of UC Gundam or not. You just pick up on more of the blatant UC references, and it seems like more of a fan fiction. Watching Unicorn last didn't help as it brought out the continuity problems and made it seem more idiosyncratic than anything. It's really best viewed as an alternate continuity to Tomino's later work as a capstone to CCA. In that regard it works fine, so long as you don't watch Narrative.
So close to get a subscriber. Misogyny complaints in Gundam Z? GTFO?!
This channel is a left-wing and progressive analysis channel, if you don't like that I don't want you to subscribe.
@@Nyard I will leave you with your soy latte and your pitiful number of subscribers.
@@cdle007 .....jerk.
@@cdle007 your lacks of knowledge of Zeta TV series is shown
@@Nyard You can be left wing and progressive and still find the criticism of Zeta as being misogynistic to be based on a superficial analysis. The show is as explicit as it can be in its criticism of the way that Scirocco, Quattro and the EFF treat women. I recommend that you try watching Zeta again while paying careful attention to Jerid's dynamic with Lila. Pay particular attention to Commander Jamaican and how the Titans respond to Jerid compared to the way they respond to Lila. The point is that Zeta is not blind to the impact of misogyny, in fact it uses it as a plot device. It's like watching The Handmaid's Tale and criticizing it for depicting misogyny. Of course it depicts misogyny, that's the point it's trying to make. Gundam also depicts war using giant robots and dropping colonies on earth.