I'm sad to see him leave my Beavs, but excited to see what he can build with a huge assistant coaching pool. Be patient. He is going to build the program back up, might take a few years, but he will take down big blue
As an Oregon DUCK fan. This would be a great hire. Corvallis OR is an extremely small market overshadowed by the Ducks. Yet he still gets players and is able to get consistent wins against good teams. Imagine what he could do at much bigger media market and way more resources.
I'm a little surprised at Levitt's reaction. I understand that he has hard feelings towards Smith because Smith never recruited him out of HS, and I havent been a 20 year old in 40 years but, if I were Levitt I'd want to prove Smith wrong, especially knowing he (Levitt) would have a good shot at the starting position next season. IMO it seems like a not well thought out decision.
I think it just made sense for him to do either way, since 1-2 extra games of development under the current staff wouldn’t have helped much. Thanks for subbing!
@@JustinThind Johnathan Smith is going to be exciting. I hope a lot of his players come his way. Sam Leavitt would be a star with Johnathan Smith being his coach.
Ducks fan here. I couldn't believe that the Ducks were trolling the Beavs by showing the Michigan State on the jumbo tron during the Civil War game. Side note... Oregon is pronounced Oregun.
I see one player from OSU's 2024 class worth going after. But how many of these west coast guys will just decommit to go to another West coast team? Or OSU's RB can hit the portal and just go to UWash or Oregon. This will be the problem with "no big deal if you only recruit west coast". It's actually a big deal. Tucker stopped recruiting Ohio and his 2024 class shows what happens when you try to compete for out-of-state kids with schools near them. It's hard sledding.
I love your content and I liked this post, but I've spent some time in Oregon and they HATE it when someone mispronounces the name of their state incorrectly. It is pronounced phonetically, Ore-gun not Ore-gone like you keep saying, not trying to call you out, just trying to help you out bro. Please take this as constructive feedback.
I'm kinda surprised Smith didn't take the UCLA job. Kelly is close to being fired and Smith and family are from Anaheim. The fans at Michigan State are more rabid than UCLA so maybe he didn't want to coach in SoCal.
MSU fan base cares more about football than UCLA. Also he may have liked the “small town” appeal of EL compared to LA. It fits his brand and underdog mold.
@@markwebster4996 Agreed and the SoCal fan base is a weak joke. Woke is for losers teams there and the politics are totally nuts! Corvallis is pretty nuts too.
So he checks the conference championships box? Routinely beating his school rival box? Not being blown out by top teams box? NFL connections and experience box? Let's not lie to ourselves, this is just an OK hire until he proves otherwise. And you seriously expect us to believe that Smith needed more money for his assistants to bring them from Oregon State? There's no way in hell that the pool of money for assistants at Oregon State was anywhere near what Tucker had available. If Smith needed more money to convince his own staff to follow him to East Lansing, that's concerning.
He checks half of the boxes you listed. And then if you want him to check the conference championship box as the head coach at Oregon State, you are being unrealistic. Kirby Smart wouldn’t check that box at OSU
@@JustinThind which ones does he check? He's 2-4 against Oregon, just lost to them 31-7, lost 42-16 to Utah last year, in general loses to ranked teams. If Stanford and Utah can win multiple PAC12 championships, why couldn't Oregon State? What are his NFL connections?
@@chosen2030absolutely no way a good coach could come from a conference in which they didn't win the conference championship huh? 😂🤣 And how would needing money to bring guys over be a bad thing???
@@bigfellamike1913 good to see you're laughing at your own ridiculous comment. And is just a good coach what MSU was going for with this hire? I thought competing for championships was the goal? But winning none checks that box for you... that's genius. And his entire staff was willing to work for under $5M in Corvallis but need $8M to work for him in East Lansing? GTFOH.
Competing for championships? as in National championships??? lmfao no big ten school is doing that MSU is most likely happy with a guy they think can mess around and win the Big Ten once every 4 or 5 years. Those same staffers would get offers from other schools, the season is over... some of them would get offered the HC job at OSU, and many would be given raises to leave OSU for the same job elsewhere. so giving them a raise to move across the country isn't outlandish whatsoever lmao to even act as if it is shows you really should stop talking about college football fam, or about hiring at any company lol. @@chosen2030
Crap hire. He's missing a lot of checks. But it's unnerving how people are like "oh and he has no Midwest ties" as if that's just a minor inconvenience. That is kind of a big deal. "Only 3rd 10 win season". Erickson had an 11 win season. Oh, Smith went 2-10, only the 2nd time in 25 years. Then went 2-5 in the COVID year. If you look at what Mike Riley did at OSU, Smith was basically following in his footsteps. Riley went to Nebraska and was canned after 2 losing seasons. By far the biggest no-check is any connection to MSU, B1G, Midwest or the state of Michigan. I can't believe how people think that's a minor concern. I'd rather have Narduzzi than this guy.
Chill out my man, this was a great hire and he was something OSU didn’t have for a long time. And it was OSU, small program, historically a losing team half the time, and he still managed to build them up like this. Narduzis best season was 10-3 at a much bigger program and Pitt is 3-9 this year. You have NO clue what your talking about.
@@liam6208 We'll see won't we? Go look at OSU's history they're hardly a charity case. Riley went to 7 bowl games in 9 seasons. Stop listening to people who are clueless, yourself. Smith isn't anything special. Take away his 2022 season and the guy looks like garbage. And realize in 2022, he won 10 games...ended up being ranked #17. What does that say about his 10 wins? Narduzzi knows where Flint, Michigan is, I doubt Smitty does. Narduzzi knows where the student union is, Smitty don't. Narduzzi recruited in Ohio, Michigan and Penn, Smitty hasn't. LOL. This guy is going to be a dumpster fire.
@@YTSpartyWay too early to tell...I like that he is a offensive minded guy, i love that we got the deal done with all of december left to secure whats left of the cuurent recruiting class, work the 30 day portal window and allow time for a new staff to be hired, I like that they hired a head coach not a coordinator, or an upcoming MAC coach, your right the midwest ties are important but lets see the staff hires before jumping to conclusions, Smith was at the top tier of available hires, and its gonna be important to compete and recruit west coast to east coast in the new BIG, have some faith my dude.
@@Satchmojones It's more important that he recruits locally. Notably Ohio. I see that as a major problem. But we will see what he does in the next few months just how hard this will be for him. I wouldn't mind a MAC coach who has been at a power 5 as a DC/OC. My huge preference is for someone from the Midwest. I'd love an MSU legacy. I hate these coaches that have no love for the school.
Ahh, so you must be one of the perpetually frustrated MS fans. If you honestly believe half of what you’re saying about Smith then you clearly haven’t really seen his impact as a coach at OSU.
I'm sad to see him leave my Beavs, but excited to see what he can build with a huge assistant coaching pool. Be patient. He is going to build the program back up, might take a few years, but he will take down big blue
Jonathan Smith baby!! Go GREEN!!!
As an Oregon DUCK fan. This would be a great hire. Corvallis OR is an extremely small market overshadowed by the Ducks. Yet he still gets players and is able to get consistent wins against good teams. Imagine what he could do at much bigger media market and way more resources.
12th in revenue and the tags are still on the new football building.
I'm a little surprised at Levitt's reaction. I understand that he has hard feelings towards Smith because Smith never recruited him out of HS, and I havent been a 20 year old in 40 years but, if I were Levitt I'd want to prove Smith wrong, especially knowing he (Levitt) would have a good shot at the starting position next season. IMO it seems like a not well thought out decision.
Lets gooooo!!!! Cant wait to see this unfold
Great job Justin and Co. GO GREEN 💚
Trust the Process! It’s going to take time but it will all work just need consistency! GO GREEN!
Fantastic hire given the coaching pool this cycle! Also a great job by Justin!
Go Green!! Spartan Nation!! V4MSU!!
SD4L Nation: Which of the five QBs stays/commits/decommits/transfers here or out? Houser, Leavitt, Noah, Hesselback, Church or DJ U?
Blessed with options
Would love to see max bullough as linebackers coach
Nice job bro! Great information
Appreciate it!
SD4L and This is Sparta have the best intros!
Great hire. Go Green!
Great information
Thank you!
I subscribed. Do you think Sam Leavitt decided to keep his red shirt maybe knowing Johnathan Smith was coming?
I think it just made sense for him to do either way, since 1-2 extra games of development under the current staff wouldn’t have helped much. Thanks for subbing!
@@JustinThind Johnathan Smith is going to be exciting. I hope a lot of his players come his way. Sam Leavitt would be a star with Johnathan Smith being his coach.
Justin,
Any word on bringing any decomments back into the fold.
Ducks fan here. I couldn't believe that the Ducks were trolling the Beavs by showing the Michigan State on the jumbo tron during the Civil War game. Side note... Oregon is pronounced Oregun.
The more i read about this hire the more i like it
Hey Justin - any idea how much per year he's going to be making?
1 million dollars
He had a 30M deal for 6 years at Oregon State so my guess is probably around 8M a year now
I see one player from OSU's 2024 class worth going after. But how many of these west coast guys will just decommit to go to another West coast team? Or OSU's RB can hit the portal and just go to UWash or Oregon. This will be the problem with "no big deal if you only recruit west coast". It's actually a big deal. Tucker stopped recruiting Ohio and his 2024 class shows what happens when you try to compete for out-of-state kids with schools near them. It's hard sledding.
very excited go green
He's from Anaheim, CA and UCLA should have got him. Chip Kelly almost got fired there.
Payton Stewart has already decommitted from Oregon State.
IF the DC of OSU was a HC candidate, why didn't they make him the interim?
I love your content and I liked this post, but I've spent some time in Oregon and they HATE it when someone mispronounces the name of their state incorrectly. It is pronounced phonetically, Ore-gun not Ore-gone like you keep saying, not trying to call you out, just trying to help you out bro. Please take this as constructive feedback.
Good stuff!!
On paper this is a good hire for Michigan State. Let’s see how this turns out. Also doesn’t he have a 4 star QB he might bring with him?
MSU has deep pockets, so why? Good coach for a system he lived in for years. Different culture here, so I hope I'm wrong but question the hire.
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I'm kinda surprised Smith didn't take the UCLA job. Kelly is close to being fired and Smith and family are from Anaheim.
The fans at Michigan State are more rabid than UCLA so maybe he didn't want to coach in SoCal.
MSU fan base cares more about football than UCLA. Also he may have liked the “small town” appeal of EL compared to LA. It fits his brand and underdog mold.
@@markwebster4996 Agreed and the SoCal fan base is a weak joke.
Woke is for losers teams there and the politics are totally nuts!
Corvallis is pretty nuts too.
Can't wait to welcome him to the B10 see ya when you get here 😂😂😂
He'll probably never get the chance to meet Jim Shady. Not in AA anyway. 😂😂😂
23:48 this is like the fifth lip smack in less than two minutes. I’m out, bad radio
Hey, when you say Oregon say it like a one syllable word, because Oregon is not gone anywhere! 😂
Will do! 😂
@@JustinThind 🤣🤣
"Promosm"
Or rah gone? you mutilated the name... 🤷♂🤷♂ ORY-GUN
I apologize haha
We’ve failed my dudes, but I’ll go down with the ship
Learn the correct pronunciation for Oregon
Ore-gone 😂
I apologize 😂
...really? Learn the correct pronunciation for "get over it". Gotta be better things to pick on.
So he checks the conference championships box? Routinely beating his school rival box? Not being blown out by top teams box? NFL connections and experience box? Let's not lie to ourselves, this is just an OK hire until he proves otherwise. And you seriously expect us to believe that Smith needed more money for his assistants to bring them from Oregon State? There's no way in hell that the pool of money for assistants at Oregon State was anywhere near what Tucker had available. If Smith needed more money to convince his own staff to follow him to East Lansing, that's concerning.
He checks half of the boxes you listed.
And then if you want him to check the conference championship box as the head coach at Oregon State, you are being unrealistic. Kirby Smart wouldn’t check that box at OSU
@@JustinThind which ones does he check? He's 2-4 against Oregon, just lost to them 31-7, lost 42-16 to Utah last year, in general loses to ranked teams. If Stanford and Utah can win multiple PAC12 championships, why couldn't Oregon State? What are his NFL connections?
@@chosen2030absolutely no way a good coach could come from a conference in which they didn't win the conference championship huh? 😂🤣 And how would needing money to bring guys over be a bad thing???
@@bigfellamike1913 good to see you're laughing at your own ridiculous comment. And is just a good coach what MSU was going for with this hire? I thought competing for championships was the goal? But winning none checks that box for you... that's genius. And his entire staff was willing to work for under $5M in Corvallis but need $8M to work for him in East Lansing? GTFOH.
Competing for championships? as in National championships??? lmfao no big ten school is doing that MSU is most likely happy with a guy they think can mess around and win the Big Ten once every 4 or 5 years.
Those same staffers would get offers from other schools, the season is over... some of them would get offered the HC job at OSU, and many would be given raises to leave OSU for the same job elsewhere. so giving them a raise to move across the country isn't outlandish whatsoever lmao to even act as if it is shows you really should stop talking about college football fam, or about hiring at any company lol. @@chosen2030
Stop mispronouncing "Oregon". Makes one sound foolish, uninformed.
Crap hire. He's missing a lot of checks. But it's unnerving how people are like "oh and he has no Midwest ties" as if that's just a minor inconvenience. That is kind of a big deal.
"Only 3rd 10 win season". Erickson had an 11 win season. Oh, Smith went 2-10, only the 2nd time in 25 years. Then went 2-5 in the COVID year.
If you look at what Mike Riley did at OSU, Smith was basically following in his footsteps. Riley went to Nebraska and was canned after 2 losing seasons.
By far the biggest no-check is any connection to MSU, B1G, Midwest or the state of Michigan. I can't believe how people think that's a minor concern.
I'd rather have Narduzzi than this guy.
Chill out my man, this was a great hire and he was something OSU didn’t have for a long time. And it was OSU, small program, historically a losing team half the time, and he still managed to build them up like this. Narduzis best season was 10-3 at a much bigger program and Pitt is 3-9 this year. You have NO clue what your talking about.
@@liam6208 We'll see won't we? Go look at OSU's history they're hardly a charity case. Riley went to 7 bowl games in 9 seasons. Stop listening to people who are clueless, yourself. Smith isn't anything special. Take away his 2022 season and the guy looks like garbage. And realize in 2022, he won 10 games...ended up being ranked #17. What does that say about his 10 wins? Narduzzi knows where Flint, Michigan is, I doubt Smitty does. Narduzzi knows where the student union is, Smitty don't. Narduzzi recruited in Ohio, Michigan and Penn, Smitty hasn't. LOL. This guy is going to be a dumpster fire.
@@YTSpartyWay too early to tell...I like that he is a offensive minded guy, i love that we got the deal done with all of december left to secure whats left of the cuurent recruiting class, work the 30 day portal window and allow time for a new staff to be hired, I like that they hired a head coach not a coordinator, or an upcoming MAC coach, your right the midwest ties are important but lets see the staff hires before jumping to conclusions, Smith was at the top tier of available hires, and its gonna be important to compete and recruit west coast to east coast in the new BIG, have some faith my dude.
@@Satchmojones It's more important that he recruits locally. Notably Ohio. I see that as a major problem. But we will see what he does in the next few months just how hard this will be for him. I wouldn't mind a MAC coach who has been at a power 5 as a DC/OC. My huge preference is for someone from the Midwest. I'd love an MSU legacy. I hate these coaches that have no love for the school.
Ahh, so you must be one of the perpetually frustrated MS fans. If you honestly believe half of what you’re saying about Smith then you clearly haven’t really seen his impact as a coach at OSU.