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Mexican Indigenous Art: Huichol Yarn Painting | Fresh P
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- Опубліковано 18 бер 2015
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How sad! She treats this craft and artist with such disrespect! She doesn't even know his last name! As a gallery co-founder, I can't imagine trying to advocate for an artist's work and not know their last name! This is a joke!
What gets me is she speaks as if she's the "expert" in this traditional craft. It's very disrespectful to say that she or anyone is helping them to produce more "evolved" art. This comes from a beautiful deep tradition and the respect for that needs to be shown better. Her words should reflect that respect. You cannot "evolve" their art. You may give it a style that is more reflective of where you come from but that doesn't mean it's more "evolved". That's like saying you've made it "better" or that it was flawed before you "fixed it". Very disrespectful.
+Mylene V. Williams we can always find ways to be outraged, and cultural awareness is not something that is learned overnight. I prefer to extend grace to others in hope that they'll extend the same to me.
Hi Fresh Princess. This is all I am saying. Give honor to the ancestors or culture where this hailed from. That's usually all that is required. Because when another culture opens up their traditions to people who aren't of that particular culture it is in the hopes and dreams that as they pass this knowledge along that their heritage will further live on. The only particular thing I stressed is in order to show proper respect your language, everyone's language should reflect honor to them. No outrage. Just deeper observations.
+Mylene V. Williams I see where you're coming from. ❤️
Thank you, Fresh Princess. I'm only trying to build understanding. I appreciate your conversation.
+Mylene V. Williams thank you for opening the dialog.
I agree with Mylene and Zully. I do not think this so much reflects badly on you, Corinne, but it is more a critique of Tess and her set-up. We are just trying to help you see this perspective. I have worked a lot with indigenous artwork. I have shown this video in several presentations as an example of the disrespectful third parties who come in and take advantage of indigenous artists and exploit their work for profit. As Zully said, in any other fine arts context enough respect would be given to artists as individuals in order to at least know and show their names or hear their own artist's statements about their work. She speaks as an authoritative figure on the art and seems to pat her company on the back for helping bring his traditional work into modern times based on what they wish to see or feel will sell better. At the time of recording, you could have had him speak or had an interpreter if that was the issue (Just some advice if you ever wish to record a similar video). I have also always wondered, did you ask what percentage of the profit would go to him? Often times it is very low. This critique is meant to help you learn. This is something you can change or do better with the next time you do similar videos. You might not have known there was an issue had no one ever said anything but now you do.
You assume that I agree with her? I do not. You also assume that I don’t see her insensitivity toward the artist. I do. I repeatedly saw this mentality throughout Mexico. My place in this world is show experiences, capture moments and this is a telling one, but that was not the story that I was telling. I wanted to highlight my personal experience in Mexico. As you can see, the other videos from that trip all highlighted local people who were excellent at their craft, from hospitality to cheese making, taco experts to chocolate makers. We all have so much to teach others so thank you for adding your perspective to the conversation. It’s rare to come across western expats who do not have this prejudice and I’m glad it is being discussed here. I am saddened by not doing my part to highlight the inequity but that was not the message I was after, I hope that my videos show my true love for place and culture. I’m glad you’re using it as an example of exploitation of indigenous artists. FYI: when using another artists work in presentations, it’s lawful to get their permission first. You’ve just undermined my work and copyright laws by not doing so. So you see, even with the best of intentions, we focus on our own gain at the expense of others. So going forward, please ask permission to use another artists work and please keep being a voice for justice. I’ll do better next time and make the correction where it needs to be made, if not on video, the immediately after. Thank you.
I "assumed" you agreed with her by purchasing one of the pieces and therefore contributing to the exploitation. You could have reached out to him afterward and commissioned him so he could create a piece for you while retaining the profit, but what's done is done.
The presentations were for educational purposes within schools, were cited, and so fall into fair use. Section 107 and 110 of the US Copyright Act allows for uses of copyrighted works without the copyright owner’s permission “for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research”. "Notwithstanding the provisions of section 106 [17 USCS Sect. 106], the following are not infringements of copyright: (1) performance or display of a work by instructors or pupils in the course of face-to-face teaching activities of a nonprofit educational institution, in a classroom or similar place devoted to instruction. (B) the performance or display is directly related and of material assistance to the teaching content of the transmission; and (C) the transmission is made primarily for-
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It was not for personal gain, it was to educate others on the exploitation of my people. But I will ask you for permission should I decide to use it again.
Assuming is never in ones best interest now is it.
Yes, her actions are insensitive in the instances you mentioned above. However, she is HOSTING the artist in the store to promote not just his art but him as a person. Tess is not the owner, she is an hourly employee. The owner arranged for the artists to work in the shop that displays there work. You make many assumptions the primary one was that these people are being exploited. So the hourly employee didn’t know Louise’s last name, but you do NOT know what he was paid for his work. Until you have all of the story you’re simply making a knee jerk assumption that the exchange is not a fair one.
If you really cared about fixing this issue, you’re call the store owner and get the facts. You could also share your concerns. I was traveling through Mexico with a camera highlighting the future and food of the region, so taking your ire out on me misses the point entirely.
I ❤️ Huichol yarn paintings! I love the vivid colors used in Mexican Art! My elementary students yarn paint every year! I like to do yarn paintings of famous paintings, too! 🧶🎨👍🏻
Such a unique work of art. Love seeing artist at work.
True craftsmanship.
More "evolved" design. Ugh! So disrespectful. She doesn't introduce the artist, DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HIS NAME. exploitative whtppl.
I know 😬
I know?.?.?... that’s your response to being called out....
I have to agree, this collab could be accomplished in a much more respectful manner.
I met him in Sayulita three years ago in the shop. Absolutely beautiful work.
I was hoping you bought one. They are so beautiful.
Talk about patience with his art...wow. Pendelton would love one of these art pieces.
Alan M. Thornton They so would. He is a master.
Such beautiful artwork. That was amazing. I absolutely love the one you bought. When I saw it hanging up my eyes were just fixed on it. Thanks for sharing. Love ya Fresh P. Have a blessed day and be safe.
TheLadySurvivor Thank you LS. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I loved it too.
That one you bought was amazing
Thank you for sharing. This art form is beautiful. I am an artist, and I have never seen this before. It's always nice to experience something new..
Toni MacTavish You're welcome. I love seeing others work as well. Especially when art is used as a prayer. How wonderful.
She doesn’t know his last name. I’m astounded by that.
thats amazing looks just beutiful
michelle from down under in bundy It's really extraordinary.
Very interesting. Very beautiful and unique.
Your choice was my choice ........:o)
Beautiful piece of art.......well done P !!!
C. Perry You have good taste. ;)
What size yarn is used in creating this beautiful art?
Hello: I didn't notice the music change. The young lady had my full attention. That wasn't me the other Rick said that. You think.
Rickugg She's pretty wonderful.
Hi Fresh P sorry if this has been asked already, but how many hours of work does it take to complete one skull? They are just stunning!
VictoryinUnity He's fast, I'd guess 5 or 6 hours.
Девчонка определенно из России слышен акцент 😀
Leave the culture alone! no mames!
She didn’t know his name?!? 😢
Thank you for the Deja Vu :)
paul august Ahhh...different tunes and I shortened it a bit.
Amazing .. :)
mysticangells Aren't they?!?
What kind of glue is used?
+ashley it's a mixture of wax and some sort of resin to harden it.
Wat is the yarn made of
Wool
Sorry for the repost. I had to take it down and change the music.
I am Wixaritari (Huichol in our native language). To not even know the artists full name as you appropriate my ancient traditions for self profit is saddening.
And why put a christian symbol on a perfect indigenous art? So sad! OMG pls tell the Huichol people to evolve you!!!