Same 🥹💚 And she had some great insight too. Like literally exactly what I needed to hear. I wish she’d write a book or something because this woman is remarkable and has such an intuitive mind . She could really help people too , somehow comforting to know even those who have it all can get sick just like everyone - and recover !
I got CFS in 1988. Pretty bad for 6 mths - 2 yrs. Only ever 80% energy wise after. Live in Australia. Over-achiever. No "cure". Sooo many others like us. Still have to manage my energy. You are among friends here. Do not be embarrassed about any of this. It can be managed. 😊 ❤
I've thought for a long time that many celebrities might be going through chronic illness but just masking constantly. Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga are other examples. I hope that Marina knows she is very brave and not only speaking up for herself but also for the voiceless people around the world suffering like her ❤
Lady Gaga has been open in her documentary about health issues .. She has a back problem :/ Now I’m wondering about this as well 👀 Lana Del Rey also said she had a mystery illness many years back , that she just felt sick all the time ..
"You forget how healthy feels" - Literally this was me for several years not knowing how chronic my illness was. I finally had surgery to remove what was causing my chronic illness and now I remember what normal feels like! Thank you so much for talking about this Marina. And thank you for Chronic Comeback for having Marina on. I wish you all the best in the future!
Oh this video and Marina are heaven-sent. I was a sickly person since I was a child. Had long Covid which lasted year and a half, now again for the second time... It's almost like PTSD. My life was stressful and constant struggle. Lately I was listening a lot of Marina's work, including her interview where she talks about her writing poems and I don't know. I think this woman does a lot for this society and she cares. She doesn't know how many times I've listened to "I am not a robot" while working in this condition, as a software developer who is simply sick of this stupid corporate game and money chasing. I just want to isolate somewhere and breathe forest air, eat cucumbers I grew in my garden and pet my cat until I can't pet anymore. I feel like life and struggle here made me sick. And for what, to be right now at the position that pays the bill but I'm so broken I can not be free. Anyhow, I am thankful someone speaks about important things and there are many bitches (not only in Hollywood lol) who are hidden witches and try to help out the world lol
Marina is so incredibly wise about this. I was always a fan (ever since Mowgli’s Road) and always suspected that she was probably a really wonderful, beautiful, clever person. And she is.
I'm a Marina fan already 11 years and I'm always getting so impressed her strength. I love you Marina speaking about health issues it's not a sign of weakness at all.
Feeling so called out by marina telling me not to ignore fatigue and take it seriously while I'm watching this at 6am (no sleep)...😭 I don't have CFS but my ADHD makes me perpetually tired and you're right, it's not normal. Hopefully I can try do to what I can to get my sleeping schedule under control a little more... Thank for this episode, guys 💖
I only look at you tube now as I deleted all my socials as its sooooo draining. Thanks for persuading Marina to come on and talk, My house is so moldy I am looking into trying to sort that out
I Follow Marina since 2011 she is great strong and very intelligent person emotionally keen on , surely she will came over from generic anxiety (her symptoms told me that ) chronic fatigue is currently how anxiety developed on her ❤.
everything you both said makes so much sense, around 2015 to now i live with cfs, anxiety, pushing myself, ignoring my body, and not prioritising nutrition are all factors that i relate to. It has taught me to change my priorities alot and my alertness and decisions now are more selective. Lately ive been getting into using the sauna which is meant to help the body adapt to stress and i think may help the body build resiliance again
I've been listening to Marina's music since 2021 and I've often wondered about some of her lyrics, or rather their source. After this podcast, her lyrics and herself are even closer to me. I admire her for her courage and perseverance and I hope she won't have to struggle with problems like this again. We love you Marina ❤
Marina talking about any subject is so majestic, I love to hear her talk and shed light on things that people don’t even know are happening. I have such a respect for her and this interview made me feel even more respect going through that stuff while trying to tour and be a people pleaser while suffering. Love you Marina❤️ you deserve this universe
the only artist I ever related to. Before my 38 or so, I just enjoyed what some music sounded like but it never struck home like dozens of her songs do. So brave to just call stuff out.
There are few health challenges more frustrating than looking perfectly normal while feeling like the end is near. Anyone with Crohn's knows exactly the dynamics she is describing; healthy and exuberant looking, but feeling mentally, spiritually, emotionally and especially physically like the life force is being drained right out of them. Marina' assessment of social media is so spot-on that I had to back up the video and watch a second time. I bailed-out on social media in 2018, best decision I ever made.
great interview, good to see Marina on the mend, I had issues with fatigue in my mid 30's turned out to do with silent acid reflux causing gut issues, I was constantly tired.
Im not sure patients on the GET program would agree that excercise cant make you worse. Certainly from my personal experience. In the beginning I kept exercising and developed dysautonomia POTs as well as long covid ME/CFS
doing a lot of plane travel can mess with your health, via emfs, time zone shifts, bugs from other travellers etc. Add to that grief, stress, overwork, vaccines, poor diet, gut issues from over use of antibiotics and it's a perfect storm for CFS. I notice she listed a lot of these things. Except for the vaxes, which are not to be underestimated. Recreational drugs like cocaine, alcohol, meth etc. can also contribute.
marina you're very brave for speaking out about this and I hope you know that. i'm so glad you had this chat, it really helped me understand what's been going on. love you marina
I suffer from something similar but dont even have the energy to get it researched. Attempted a few times long ago but doctors didn't do much with it. I'm in so much pain, I was wrapping a gift and i became exhausted. It's rediculous. I been a Marina fan ever since 2011 ish. My friend Jordan introduced me to her. Me and him and similar issues thats why we connected so much. He sadly passed away. Marina was his favorite artist. I wish he could have seen this. He felt a huge connection to her. Oh btw i think around 2013 I got a marina ticket and didn't even go. I was too exhausted. Ofcourse I beat myself up for it. It's terrible suffering from this when you don't wanna be the person that whines. I also been through red skin syndrome for 9 years. I swear steroids destroyed my life and nervoussystem. It was traumatic to say the least. I also have the complex of not afraid of not being believed, like Marina talks about.
Oh no, mold fucked my health too. It's awful. I feel the shame comes through needing to rest so.much and being shamed for needing much more sleep than others and still being exhausted.
Marina, please, please use your voice and platform to help us. We need biomedical research not brain training programs that are inaccessible and do not work for everyone. M.E/CFS has an extremely dark history and we need your help.
Brain training programs are not inaccessible. There is heaps of free information online. Curable is an app you can use whenever for just $100aud a year. You want a magic pill to fix CFS. Not everything can be "cured" like that.
@@JLX1373think he’s more referring to that they have the money to get the best support possible (but again that depends entirely on what the illness is)
@@JLX1373 it definitely does for me. financial stress has been the single biggest factor making it hard to have enough spaciousness to focus on repairing my nervous system, engaging with trauma healing resources, etc. not to mention actual medical treatment back when i was going that route. unquestionably money makes a HUGE difference. all my friends who have recovered from cfs had full support from either a parent or partner, and for myself, i can definitely see how the times ive had bits of financial support here and there have helped me gain my footing. No shade to marina, but chronic illness most definitely cares how rich i am. not sure your situation @jlx1373 but if you dont have financial support and have cfs id be curious for your take. if you do have financial support, id encourage you to reflect on and appreciate how that benefits you. peace.
@@iustjjnI'm assuming you're a man, right? Most men don't get any support actually. And I agree, most recovery stories have the factor someone being helped massively, most of the time it was women. Not sure if it's just my observation though.
Marina is so classy and intelligent and kind, I've loved her music for many years.
as a Diamond (marina fan) for over half my life (see username), who now lives with chronic illness & fatigue, this is so comforting and empowering
Same 🥹💚 And she had some great insight too. Like literally exactly what I needed to hear. I wish she’d write a book or something because this woman is remarkable and has such an intuitive mind . She could really help people too , somehow comforting to know even those who have it all can get sick just like everyone - and recover !
I got CFS in 1988. Pretty bad for 6 mths - 2 yrs. Only ever 80% energy wise after. Live in Australia. Over-achiever. No "cure". Sooo many others like us. Still have to manage my energy. You are among friends here. Do not be embarrassed about any of this. It can be managed. 😊 ❤
I've thought for a long time that many celebrities might be going through chronic illness but just masking constantly. Justin Bieber and Lady Gaga are other examples. I hope that Marina knows she is very brave and not only speaking up for herself but also for the voiceless people around the world suffering like her ❤
love this dude! thank you man
Lady Gaga has been open in her documentary about health issues .. She has a back problem :/
Now I’m wondering about this as well 👀
Lana Del Rey also said she had a mystery illness many years back , that she just felt sick all the time ..
"You forget how healthy feels" - Literally this was me for several years not knowing how chronic my illness was. I finally had surgery to remove what was causing my chronic illness and now I remember what normal feels like! Thank you so much for talking about this Marina. And thank you for Chronic Comeback for having Marina on. I wish you all the best in the future!
@@Meggarra thank you!!!
@@TheChronicComebackwhat was The thing which was causing it?
Apart from being the most gorgeous human on this planet she is incredibly intelligent, well spoken, and in tune with her emotions
Very insightful. You never know what someone's going through, really.
Oh this video and Marina are heaven-sent. I was a sickly person since I was a child. Had long Covid which lasted year and a half, now again for the second time... It's almost like PTSD. My life was stressful and constant struggle. Lately I was listening a lot of Marina's work, including her interview where she talks about her writing poems and I don't know. I think this woman does a lot for this society and she cares. She doesn't know how many times I've listened to "I am not a robot" while working in this condition, as a software developer who is simply sick of this stupid corporate game and money chasing. I just want to isolate somewhere and breathe forest air, eat cucumbers I grew in my garden and pet my cat until I can't pet anymore. I feel like life and struggle here made me sick. And for what, to be right now at the position that pays the bill but I'm so broken I can not be free. Anyhow, I am thankful someone speaks about important things and there are many bitches (not only in Hollywood lol) who are hidden witches and try to help out the world lol
Marina is so incredibly wise about this. I was always a fan (ever since Mowgli’s Road) and always suspected that she was probably a really wonderful, beautiful, clever person. And she is.
We need more thoughtful high vibrational artists like Marina.❤️
Heartbreaking
I'm a Marina fan already 11 years and I'm always getting so impressed her strength. I love you Marina speaking about health issues it's not a sign of weakness at all.
Feeling so called out by marina telling me not to ignore fatigue and take it seriously while I'm watching this at 6am (no sleep)...😭 I don't have CFS but my ADHD makes me perpetually tired and you're right, it's not normal. Hopefully I can try do to what I can to get my sleeping schedule under control a little more... Thank for this episode, guys 💖
I only look at you tube now as I deleted all my socials as its sooooo draining. Thanks for persuading Marina to come on and talk, My house is so moldy I am looking into trying to sort that out
love marina so much ❤
I Follow Marina since 2011 she is great strong and very intelligent person emotionally keen on , surely she will came over from generic anxiety (her symptoms told me that ) chronic fatigue is currently how anxiety developed on her ❤.
everything you both said makes so much sense, around 2015 to now i live with cfs, anxiety, pushing myself, ignoring my body, and not prioritising nutrition are all factors that i relate to. It has taught me to change my priorities alot and my alertness and decisions now are more selective. Lately ive been getting into using the sauna which is meant to help the body adapt to stress and i think may help the body build resiliance again
@@PianoHits amazing! 👏🏼
ugh love her 😩💘
HAPPY BIRTHDAY MARINA 💕 QUEEN💕 OUR GUARDIAN TOWARDS OUR MENTAL HEALTH 🌿💚
FELIZ CUMPLEAÑOS MARINA 💕 REINA💕 NUESTRA GUARDIANA HACIA NUESTRA SALUD MENTAL 🌿💚
OMG! Marina!
I've been listening to Marina's music since 2021 and I've often wondered about some of her lyrics, or rather their source. After this podcast, her lyrics and herself are even closer to me. I admire her for her courage and perseverance and I hope she won't have to struggle with problems like this again. We love you Marina ❤
Marina talking about any subject is so majestic, I love to hear her talk and shed light on things that people don’t even know are happening. I have such a respect for her and this interview made me feel even more respect going through that stuff while trying to tour and be a people pleaser while suffering. Love you Marina❤️ you deserve this universe
the only artist I ever related to. Before my 38 or so, I just enjoyed what some music sounded like but it never struck home like dozens of her songs do. So brave to just call stuff out.
There are few health challenges more frustrating than looking perfectly normal while feeling like the end is near. Anyone with Crohn's knows exactly the dynamics she is describing; healthy and exuberant looking, but feeling mentally, spiritually, emotionally and especially physically like the life force is being drained right out of them. Marina' assessment of social media is so spot-on that I had to back up the video and watch a second time. I bailed-out on social media in 2018, best decision I ever made.
LOVE HER RESPONSES SHE 💕 IS SO SWEET
great interview, good to see Marina on the mend, I had issues with fatigue in my mid 30's turned out to do with silent acid reflux causing gut issues, I was constantly tired.
Brillant,honest and coherent conversation...luv it..well done both of you
MARINA i’m so glad you have spoken out about these things to give people a voice, also i can’t wait for you’re book and album❤❤
Marina raised me so hearing about her personal experience behind the scenes is so interesting and makes me admire her even more ❤
Marinas such a kind soul I’m glad she speaks out about this stuff
Im not sure patients on the GET program would agree that excercise cant make you worse.
Certainly from my personal experience. In the beginning I kept exercising and developed dysautonomia POTs as well as long covid ME/CFS
i love you Marina, no matter what
doing a lot of plane travel can mess with your health, via emfs, time zone shifts, bugs from other travellers etc. Add to that grief, stress, overwork, vaccines, poor diet, gut issues from over use of antibiotics and it's a perfect storm for CFS. I notice she listed a lot of these things. Except for the vaxes, which are not to be underestimated. Recreational drugs like cocaine, alcohol, meth etc. can also contribute.
Thank you,Marina!! I love you!!! XO from Brazil 🇧🇷❤️
marina you're very brave for speaking out about this and I hope you know that. i'm so glad you had this chat, it really helped me understand what's been going on. love you marina
Queen of My Heart.
thanks for this great video! and thank you marina for sharing your story with us!
Thank u for sharing, marina 💖💖
Wish you the best Marina ❤
MARINA TE AMO ❤❤❤❤
MARINA ❤❤❤
Great video, thank you
Thank you for this podcast Phil, a positive outlook on chronic conditions is desparately needed. 🙏🏼
@@MrFornicater thank you!!
@@MrFornicater thank you!
I suffer from something similar but dont even have the energy to get it researched. Attempted a few times long ago but doctors didn't do much with it. I'm in so much pain, I was wrapping a gift and i became exhausted. It's rediculous. I been a Marina fan ever since 2011 ish. My friend Jordan introduced me to her. Me and him and similar issues thats why we connected so much. He sadly passed away. Marina was his favorite artist. I wish he could have seen this. He felt a huge connection to her. Oh btw i think around 2013 I got a marina ticket and didn't even go. I was too exhausted. Ofcourse I beat myself up for it. It's terrible suffering from this when you don't wanna be the person that whines. I also been through red skin syndrome for 9 years. I swear steroids destroyed my life and nervoussystem. It was traumatic to say the least. I also have the complex of not afraid of not being believed, like Marina talks about.
I love you Marina❤❤❤ I'm glad you recovered 🙏🙏🙏 I look forward to reading your book and listening to your new record 💿💿🌹🌹🌹
Wonderful ♥
Her doing mushrooms explains ADIML album so much.
where's the mushrooms part?
@@Froot2115the imagery of some of the MVs and colour scheme has some psychedelic vibes.
I LOVED THIS! THANK YOU ❤
the amount of views in this podcast makes me crazy
The slight giggle at the beginning on repeat tho
Oh no, mold fucked my health too. It's awful. I feel the shame comes through needing to rest so.much and being shamed for needing much more sleep than others and still being exhausted.
Moldy homes are a huge issues for a lot of UK and London homes and flats. And landlords just paint over it
You work hard so what do you expect ? Your only human Marina. Best wishes tho' Mark Liverpool x
what a treat, thank you. sending love
Ugh, this shit is hard. Most days I have two spoons. Some days I have to go to work, so I pretend.
Would be interesting to know if anyone DMs her and gets a reply or if the message gets read.
14:51 oh my fucking god...🙎
HIIIIIIII MARINA SENDING LOVE BABE ❤❤❤😊
Existing toxicity load will also make you more vunerable to mold
Marina, please, please use your voice and platform to help us. We need biomedical research not brain training programs that are inaccessible and do not work for everyone. M.E/CFS has an extremely dark history and we need your help.
Brain training programs are not inaccessible. There is heaps of free information online.
Curable is an app you can use whenever for just $100aud a year.
You want a magic pill to fix CFS. Not everything can be "cured" like that.
Yep Western healthcare has a long way to go...
i wish marina was real omg
I knew it, AI right?
@@VinylDelRey They're going along with your joke 😐
@@p.h.o.e.b.e.e delete ur comment
same
@@VinylDelRey me too 😔
greek goddess
I changed to a carnivore diet and it solved my health issues I lost weight and feel loads better.
Love Marina but like, she is rich and has the privilege to be able to view it as a growth experience 😅
what does being rich have to do with anything? chronic illness doesn't care how rich you are.
@@JLX1373think he’s more referring to that they have the money to get the best support possible (but again that depends entirely on what the illness is)
Well she has the ability of taking time off and not work. Not all of us can have that privilege @@JLX1373
@@JLX1373 it definitely does for me. financial stress has been the single biggest factor making it hard to have enough spaciousness to focus on repairing my nervous system, engaging with trauma healing resources, etc. not to mention actual medical treatment back when i was going that route. unquestionably money makes a HUGE difference. all my friends who have recovered from cfs had full support from either a parent or partner, and for myself, i can definitely see how the times ive had bits of financial support here and there have helped me gain my footing. No shade to marina, but chronic illness most definitely cares how rich i am. not sure your situation @jlx1373 but if you dont have financial support and have cfs id be curious for your take. if you do have financial support, id encourage you to reflect on and appreciate how that benefits you. peace.
@@iustjjnI'm assuming you're a man, right? Most men don't get any support actually. And I agree, most recovery stories have the factor someone being helped massively, most of the time it was women. Not sure if it's just my observation though.
You are what you drink 💦?? Just saying 😂😂
Does marina know people are dying from this DISEASE. It is a DISEASE.
...No, they're not. It's also a syndrome, not a disease.
@@akashajones6079Maeve died? Lynn died? Sophie died?
I hope your channel gets more recognition so stories like this can be shared with more people.
Thank you!!! 🙂
one of my all time favourite artists talking about my favorite subject 🥹 this is amazing, thank you for this ♡