Punch card, IBM, words whose combination one does not hear when computing nowadays. In the early 70’s we were still using them for statistics classes. Would have been faster to use a slide rule.
@@peopleskarmasquad1042 In the early 70’s I was a package car driver with UPS, my starting wage was around $5.25 per hour. Several years later, before I moved into management, the Teamsters and UPS had settled on a wage of about $10.50 per plus benefits. The work was difficult but I was in better shape physically than I was after Army basic training.
I remember the days of having to use slide rules in math and science classes. Calculator? What was a calculator? 😄 I still have my old slide rule, by the way. 👍
IT'S GOING TO GET A LOT MORE NUTS BEFORE LONG. THEY WANT MOST TO STARVE AND ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT, RELIGION ETC ETC ETC ETC. BEST OF LUCK TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. GOD BLESS.
Friday's interviewing skills are hilarious. "Come on Alonzo! How about it? And then the crook, Alonzo who hasn't said anything to this point, spills the beans. LMAO! 😅
Only a dummy like you would find Friday's "interviewing skills" funny! If you were a police detective in a major police department, how would YOU talk to a suspect, "smarty"? 🤨
I find it really find it pretty far-fetched that the cops would be permitted to hover in the operating room during a procedure, no matter how 'urgent'. Hospitals are terrified of insurance companies. Insurance companies have rejected claims for much less. The Hospital is also leaving itself wide-open to a malpractice suit, especially if the patient dies on table. The dubious relationships that Hospitals have with insurance companies and fear of being sued were as big a threat when this first aired in 1952 as they do in 2022.
That's because the LAPD gave Dragnet and other programs like that actual cases and details (even the spicy ones) and in return the creators of those programs made the police look like infallible heroes, who could do no wrong. It's was essentially propaganda, but fun propaganda!
@@lookitssupergus My point is that they touted the show as 'realistic'. It wasn't. All the times Friday went off on the perps with a long, anger-fueled lecture. Wouldn't fly in real life. Also, the way the cops interacted with victim's families was pretty absurd. 'Is my boy hurt?' Then a lot of hemming and hawing from the cops. 'He's hurt real bad.' 'How bad?' 'As bad as it can be.' You mean...' 'He's dead.' This doesn't paint the cops as heroes. It makes them look like fucking morons.''
Um, from EXACTLY what part of The U.S.A. does Ben's accent originate? (I.e. Joe Friday's partner). OK. this show happens prior to Gideon vs. The State of Florida, as well as Miranda; however, your Constitutional Rights have not changed. Both Gideon and Miranda were decisions made to help insure the suspects were allowed their Constitutional Rights. The Supreme Court does NOT legislate. The Court only makes decisions to clarify and enforce The Constitution. Prior to Gideon, Betts v. Brady allowed that only CAPITOL (murder) cases have a right to a free attorney; however, the request to obtain an attorney SHOULD immediately cause the police to stop the questioning a suspect. Most of the laws that Joe and Ben BREAK involve illegal interrogations, and violation of a suspect's Constitutional Rights. Almost every episode, subjects a person to being sound-recorded and interrogated with hostile police intent, even though the "suspect" is not subject to a private or police COMPLAINT, -much less arrest or search and seizure warrants. When a suspect indicates that they do NOT want to talk (e.g., "I aint tellin' you nuthin' copper!") , the police cannot continue to question. They must either LET THEM GO, or act upon a specific arrest or search warrant, SIGNED by a judge. If the police arrest a person without a warrant or complaint (they must show you), they MUST have PROBABLE CAUSE. Probably Cause is NOT simply a neighbour telling the detectives, " -he's a bad man!" The rules of EVIDENCE, discovery, logging and chain of evidence apply in 1950, just as they apply now. O.J. Simpson walked, mostly because the LAPD did NOT maintain the chain of evidence, nor was the evidence treated via the rules of evidence. BTW: Chief Parker and the LAPD were probably the most corrupt police force in the nation c. 1950. Joe and Ben do not seem capable of actual DETECTIVE WORK ; hence, they are able to obtain confessions only via illegal trickery, bluff and hostile threats. Joe and Ben constantly use their official status as detectives to intimidate suspects into saying things they would never say if they thought they had any CHOICE in the matter. It is appalling how little suspects, -even professional criminals, knew about their Constitutional 1st, 3nd, and 4th Amendment rights! I cannot think of a single episode where Joe and Ben employ legal, investigatory procedures from the outset to define a suspect and then collect the EVIDENCE to convict the suspect. Over 90% of the programmes conclude the "investigation" via hearsay, illegal interrogation, closely followed by an illegal confession. -Interrogation that is often conducted at the suspect's place of employment or legal abode, via loud, obvious verbal intimidation and harassment. Threatening a person's legal employment, is NOT a legal interrogation technique. Most of the interrogation is illegal if not extremely odd as the "suspect" is not being held in custody, under arrest or obliged to answer the police questioning in any way. Similarly, "GOING DOWNTOWN" is illegal unless Joe and Ben have a WARRANT SIGNED BY A JUDGE, Joe and Ben constantly threaten their suspects by telling them that they will "go downtown" if they refuse to answer questions. thus. joe and Ben bltantly imply that the person will spared arrest and "going downtown" if they "cooperate". If Joe and Ben operated today as they did i n 1950, THEY would be serving time. I have listened to all 344 known episodes, and have not found a single episode where illegal interrogation did NOT play a vital part in "getting" the "suspect". Most of the time, the "suspect" is not even legally a suspect! Yes, the Supreme Court's Miranda and Gideon Decisions have fundamentally altered the way police conduct criminal investigations ; however, these vital decisions did not alter a person's Constitutional Rights. These Supreme Court Decisions were made because suspects were not realising their Constitutional Rights. If you want to hear even more audacious examples of Constitutional Rights being violated, listen to the circa 1950 contemporary radio programmes, "NIGHT WATCH", "I WAS A COMMUNIST FOR THE FBI" and "LINE UP". AS bad as Dragnet's example was, these other programmes illustrated far worse illegal policing tactics. Worse, "NIGHT WATCH", as the first "reality" programme, was made of taped, real-life police activity! If the broadcast, edited tapes had been used as evidence, most or all of the defendants would have had viable cases AGAINST The Culver City Police Dept! I wonder if ANY modern high school civics classes, TODAY, do a better job of teaching students their Constitutional Rights relative to criminal police investigation? Just remember; If you are being treated as a suspect and a policeman ASKS you a question it is because they need your answer in order to help CONVICT you. Moreover, just because you are being treated as a suspect does NOT mean your are an official target of a police investigation. If the LAPD screwed up the O.J. Simpson case so badly, it is a wonder that anyone can be convicted in a court of law, IF they simply do not talk during interrogation! When your criminal Brief (lawyer) advises you to NOT TALK, they mean EXACTLY THAT. There is NOTHING you can say to the police AFTER you are an official target (i.e. "suspect") that will help you! IF you are an official target, the police are asking you questions because they need the information to legally hurt you. Not talking means JUST THAT. No sound, no words from your vocal chords. Always be respectful and polite. If arrested, do NOT assume a disrespectful attitude. Do not swagger, do not brag. Keep your eyes down, (do not make eye contact).Remember that it may be illegal for the police to hurt you,but they often forcefully shove people around, or MUCH worse. The law is what the police say it is until you can get to a higher authority. My favourite GAME: How many times in each show do Joe Friday and Ben violate the Constitutional Rights of a suspect? -Every time you reveal such an abuse, keep score; -E.g., Entrapment, employing a myriad of illegal practises to obtain a confession., harassment, threats, etc. Do this with your children and it can be educational while fun.
Get your own channel We all come to be entertained and not have to hear all the BS. Also Ben’s accent may be south Texan. That New Orleans and Gulf Texas speech are similar.
Very enlightening, but you did not answer the question...I would place Ben Romero’s accent in middle Alabama, between Montgomery and Birmingham, not Louisiana...
@@MrBullethead63 Barton Yarborough was born in Goldwaite, Texas. Smack dap in Central Texas. There's not an Urban area for a 100 miles. Barton ran away from home at an early age and worked the Vaudeville circuit. He may of developed his ascent on Stage. But, Barton was never near Alabama. My 1st few guess' were Louisiana; Cause my in-laws were Louisianians and moved to West Texas. Eventually settling in Fall River, MA. My Mother-in-law never lost that Texas-Louisianian drawl.
Great radio show
So Awesome!
77th! Worked out of there for a few years. They're in the hood
Jack Webb really had the BEST voice for this. I LOVED him as Jeff Regan as well.
Hes really good as Pat Novak too.
Dragnet Radio from 1949 to 1957
Listened to this in Germany on Armed Forces Radio.
Eating pbj sandwich and saltine crackers with a glass of milk.
That sums me up, I was 12 years old though in in 83
Why did I read this in Friday's voice? 😂
Punch card, IBM, words whose combination one does not hear when computing nowadays. In the early 70’s we were still using them for statistics classes. Would have been faster to use a slide rule.
Be a key punch operator. Make good money, up to $50 a week!
@@peopleskarmasquad1042 Were keypunch operators paid that much?
@@stanwolenski9541 not to start but you worked your way up to it.
@@peopleskarmasquad1042 In the early 70’s I was a package car driver with UPS, my starting wage was around $5.25 per hour. Several years later, before I moved into management, the Teamsters and UPS had settled on a wage of about $10.50 per plus benefits. The work was difficult but I was in better shape physically than I was after Army basic training.
I remember the days of having to use slide rules in math and science classes. Calculator? What was a calculator? 😄 I still have my old slide rule, by the way. 👍
This is pretty good
Worse to fall asleep to for sure. Old timey
Even way back then folks were nuts.
Yes. Yes even back in the ancient times.
Great find with a glass of bourbon!
A glass of bourbon makes everything better!!!
The wounded cop is played by Frank Lovejoy. Lovejoy went on to work in movies and TV.
For three seasons in the early '50s, he played Randy Stone, a reporter who covered Chicago overnight in NIGHTBEAT. It's an excellent series.
A bunch of these radio stars went on to TV, I never thought of this till I found this channel and found
Greg Bell's show on Sirius radio.
All great.
People have been nuts since the beginning of time
Jesucristo es Dios
IT'S GOING TO GET A LOT MORE NUTS BEFORE LONG. THEY WANT MOST TO STARVE AND ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT, RELIGION ETC ETC ETC ETC.
BEST OF LUCK TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY. GOD BLESS.
😆 tray I agree
Yes, always crazy.
😢 1:36:51 😢❤😊❤😢😢❤😢
When was this originally broadcast
All of these episodes were broadcast in June and July of 1949 when the Dragnet series started.
It's wise to smoke extra mild Fatima. 🚬☠️
It's wise not to smoke at all
One 'puff' of the dreaded marijuana, though, made one a public enemy.
@@sambucas.4645SAYS WHO, YOU? I WILL SMOKE MYSELF INTO OBLIVION IF I CHOOSE,SO MIND YA BUSINESS
@@-oiiio-3993 I WILL SMOKE ALL THE WEED I PLEASE
The good ol days 😉
What do you mean
Nov 2022
People still crazy
Friday's interviewing skills are hilarious. "Come on Alonzo! How about it? And then the crook, Alonzo who hasn't said anything to this point, spills the beans. LMAO! 😅
Only a dummy like you would find Friday's "interviewing skills" funny! If you were a police detective in a major police department, how would YOU talk to a suspect, "smarty"? 🤨
Frank Lovejoy?
I find it really find it pretty far-fetched that the cops would be permitted to hover in the operating room during a procedure, no matter how 'urgent'.
Hospitals are terrified of insurance companies. Insurance companies have rejected claims for much less. The Hospital is also leaving itself wide-open to a malpractice suit, especially if the patient dies on table.
The dubious relationships that Hospitals have with insurance companies and fear of being sued were as big a threat when this first aired in 1952 as they do in 2022.
That's because the LAPD gave Dragnet and other programs like that actual cases and details (even the spicy ones) and in return the creators of those programs made the police look like infallible heroes, who could do no wrong. It's was essentially propaganda, but fun propaganda!
@@lookitssupergus My point is that they touted the show as 'realistic'. It wasn't. All the times Friday went off on the perps with a long, anger-fueled lecture. Wouldn't fly in real life.
Also, the way the cops interacted with victim's families was pretty absurd. 'Is my boy hurt?' Then a lot of hemming and hawing from the cops. 'He's hurt real bad.' 'How bad?' 'As bad as it can be.' You mean...' 'He's dead.' This doesn't paint the cops as heroes. It makes them look like fucking morons.''
There. Really was little to no regulations for police then. You're all the way wrong on that
It's just a show.😂
Jack Webb was trying to make DRAGNET as realistic as possible. That's why I mentioned it.@@Lazy-Journalist
Um, from EXACTLY what part of The U.S.A. does Ben's accent originate? (I.e. Joe Friday's partner).
OK. this show happens prior to Gideon vs. The State of Florida, as well as Miranda; however, your Constitutional Rights have not changed. Both Gideon and Miranda were decisions made to help insure the suspects were allowed their Constitutional Rights. The Supreme Court does NOT legislate. The Court only makes decisions to clarify and enforce The Constitution. Prior to Gideon, Betts v. Brady allowed that only CAPITOL (murder) cases have a right to a free attorney; however, the request to obtain an attorney SHOULD immediately cause the police to stop the questioning a suspect.
Most of the laws that Joe and Ben BREAK involve illegal interrogations, and violation of a suspect's Constitutional Rights.
Almost every episode, subjects a person to being sound-recorded and interrogated with hostile police intent, even though the "suspect" is not subject to a private or police COMPLAINT, -much less arrest or search and seizure warrants. When a suspect indicates that they do NOT want to talk (e.g., "I aint tellin' you nuthin' copper!") , the police cannot continue to question. They must either LET THEM GO, or act upon a specific arrest or search warrant, SIGNED by a judge.
If the police arrest a person without a warrant or complaint (they must show you), they MUST have PROBABLE CAUSE. Probably Cause is NOT simply a neighbour telling the detectives, " -he's a bad man!" The rules of EVIDENCE, discovery, logging and chain of evidence apply in 1950, just as they apply now.
O.J. Simpson walked, mostly because the LAPD did NOT maintain the chain of evidence, nor was the evidence treated via the rules of evidence. BTW: Chief Parker and the LAPD were probably the most corrupt police force in the nation c. 1950.
Joe and Ben do not seem capable of actual DETECTIVE WORK ; hence, they are able to obtain confessions only via illegal trickery, bluff and hostile threats. Joe and Ben constantly use their official status as detectives to intimidate suspects into saying things they would never say if they thought they had any CHOICE in the matter.
It is appalling how little suspects, -even professional criminals, knew about their Constitutional 1st, 3nd, and 4th Amendment rights! I cannot think of a single episode where Joe and Ben employ legal, investigatory procedures from the outset to define a suspect and then collect the EVIDENCE to convict the suspect. Over 90% of the programmes conclude the "investigation" via hearsay, illegal interrogation, closely followed by an illegal confession. -Interrogation that is often conducted at the suspect's place of employment or legal abode, via loud, obvious verbal intimidation and harassment. Threatening a person's legal employment, is NOT a legal interrogation technique.
Most of the interrogation is illegal if not extremely odd as the "suspect" is not being held in custody, under arrest or obliged to answer the police questioning in any way. Similarly, "GOING DOWNTOWN" is illegal unless Joe and Ben have a WARRANT SIGNED BY A JUDGE, Joe and Ben constantly threaten their suspects by telling them that they will "go downtown" if they refuse to answer questions. thus. joe and Ben bltantly imply that the person will spared arrest and "going downtown" if they "cooperate".
If Joe and Ben operated today as they did i n 1950, THEY would be serving time.
I have listened to all 344 known episodes, and have not found a single episode where illegal interrogation did NOT play a vital part in "getting" the "suspect". Most of the time, the "suspect" is not even legally a suspect!
Yes, the Supreme Court's Miranda and Gideon Decisions have fundamentally altered the way police conduct criminal investigations ; however, these vital decisions did not alter a person's Constitutional Rights. These Supreme Court Decisions were made because suspects were not realising their Constitutional Rights.
If you want to hear even more audacious examples of Constitutional Rights being violated, listen to the circa 1950 contemporary radio programmes, "NIGHT WATCH", "I WAS A COMMUNIST FOR THE FBI" and "LINE UP". AS bad as Dragnet's example was, these other programmes illustrated far worse illegal policing tactics. Worse, "NIGHT WATCH", as the first "reality" programme, was made of taped, real-life police activity! If the broadcast, edited tapes had been used as evidence, most or all of the defendants would have had viable cases AGAINST The Culver City Police Dept!
I wonder if ANY modern high school civics classes, TODAY, do a better job of teaching students their Constitutional Rights relative to criminal police investigation?
Just remember; If you are being treated as a suspect and a policeman ASKS you a question it is because they need your answer in order to help CONVICT you. Moreover, just because you are being treated as a suspect does NOT mean your are an official target of a police investigation.
If the LAPD screwed up the O.J. Simpson case so badly, it is a wonder that anyone can be convicted in a court of law, IF they simply do not talk during interrogation!
When your criminal Brief (lawyer) advises you to NOT TALK, they mean EXACTLY THAT. There is NOTHING you can say to the police AFTER you are an official target (i.e. "suspect") that will help you! IF you are an official target, the police are asking you questions because they need the information to legally hurt you.
Not talking means JUST THAT. No sound, no words from your vocal chords. Always be respectful and polite.
If arrested, do NOT assume a disrespectful attitude. Do not swagger, do not brag. Keep your eyes down, (do not make eye contact).Remember that it may be illegal for the police to hurt you,but they often forcefully shove people around, or MUCH worse.
The law is what the police say it is until you can get to a higher authority.
My favourite GAME: How many times in each show do Joe Friday and Ben violate the Constitutional Rights of a suspect? -Every time you reveal such an abuse, keep score; -E.g., Entrapment, employing a myriad of illegal practises to obtain a confession., harassment, threats, etc. Do this with your children and it can be educational while fun.
Get your own channel
We all come to be entertained and not have to hear all the BS.
Also Ben’s accent may be south Texan. That New Orleans and Gulf Texas speech are similar.
Well put.
Very enlightening, but you did not answer the question...I would place Ben Romero’s accent in middle Alabama, between Montgomery and Birmingham, not Louisiana...
@@MrBullethead63 Barton Yarborough was born in Goldwaite, Texas. Smack dap in Central Texas. There's not an Urban area for a 100 miles. Barton ran away from home at an early age and worked the Vaudeville circuit. He may of developed his ascent on Stage. But, Barton was never near Alabama.
My 1st few guess' were Louisiana; Cause my in-laws were Louisianians and moved to West Texas. Eventually settling in Fall River, MA. My Mother-in-law never lost that Texas-Louisianian drawl.
I bet you’re fun at parties. 🙄