Santa Fe Survivors -The Super Fleet Today-
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Santa Fe lives on the BNSF! Former Santa Fe Super Fleet C44-9Ws and B40-8Ws, have recently been assigned to Twin Cities area. They are currently dominating the transfers, locals, and other assignments out of Northtown Yard. We'll focus on the units still in Santa Fe colors in this video, and even see FOUR Santa Fe painted units together.
We'll start off seeing the BNCP Transfer working UP's Belt Yard with an impressive consist of four units. This was a GREAT start to 2024. After seeing this power move around a bit, we'll watch it race back to Northtown Yard. Following this, we'll see the C44-9Ws working The Midway Switch, and lugging around intermodal cars. They're also seen working the Tramp Job. We'll close it out by seeing the BNCP again, but with only BNSF 558 and 542, as they scream by on the Midway Sub. These units are survivors, and add a LOT of variety trackside.
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I remember when Mike Haverty brought the warbonnet scheme back on the FP45s in the late 80s, then when the GP60Ms came out they were fantastic. EMDs paint sure lasted better than GEs for some reason. Still the best looking paint scheme ever.
This is a good video explaining about the "Classic" ATSF Warbonnets! It is true that this stuff survives in 2024, including lots of green ex BN engines! All the EMD Warbonnets are gone from BNSF. The SD75Ms are all stricken from the roster. Too bad all the GP60Ms are repainted to BNSF "Swoosh." Those have been rebuilt and will last longer, but this is progress. There are still GP60Bs, but those are all in H1 BNSF and still working! The only EMD ATSF painted units left on BNSF in 2024 are "Bluebonnets!" They look fairly good and that paint has survived much better! We gets lots of variety on BNSF! I am glad to see BN engines too! Those have lasted well, including lots of "Whiteface" units and are all EMDs! OK, I went to MN in May with "Railfan" Gary Sample to chase CP 2816 on the "Final Spike" steam train! I checked out Northtown Yard and was amazed to see a few "Warbonnets" working the yard as "Yard Goats" now with RCO! This is not what I expected to see. Kind of sad that the pride of the fleet for ATSF, the "Super Fleet" is now relegated to yards and locals. The most ATSF painted engines I have seen in years though! Stored in BNSF Northtown seemed like over 200 locos! Many types of engines. The only "Warbonnets" here were the BNSF ones and just a few. 4700 series C44-9Ws! There were some BN "Whiteface" engines and "Grinstein" SD70MACs! This trip was great and my first time by vehicle to MN since August 2004!
Well now, I went to Illinois and Iowa to catch CP 2816 returning from Mexico in June/July with my great friend "Mazon!" We saw CP 2816 working at Silvis, IL Railroading Heritage of Midwest America shops! During the expensive shop tour we saw ex BNSF/ATSF B40-8W # 537! In primer paint. This engine will be restored to fresh ATSF "Warbonnet" colors which is amazing! WOW, I cannot wait for this to happen! We went to Galesburg, IL for 2024 "Railroad Days!" Did the "VIP" bus tour. My first time to Galesburg since 2005. Saw many "Warbonnets" here. Some were switching and more sitting in the yard! Probably at least 10 "Warbonnets" seen! All of these are C44-9Ws, many with RCO! Good to find SD40-2B # 302 switching the hump in BN green paint! At the yard by the shops was BNSF SD40-2 # 1790 in BN "Cascade Green!" Wow! BNSF has been around longer than BN even existed! I saw an ex ATSF B40-8W in BNSF H2 paint sitting. Even a GP60B in BNSF H1! Hey, displayed at the Amtrak station was BNSF "Warbonnet" C44-9W # 720! What do you think of these? Sure they were built for BNSF in 1997, but sure look nice! Santa Fe ordered these before the official merging which is why they were delivered in these colors. Even the nose had "Santa Fe" lettering! Amazing BNSF did not have a newer engine on display like usual. Also, the 700 series GEs colors look better. They are only three years newer than the others, but look much better. Even better than the 600 series did at the same age. Maybe GE used better paint here. Also when I was 11 years old in 1994 I rode the Amtrak Southwest Chief between Chicago and Flagstaff, AZ. That was cool to ride the rails of ATSF while it still existed! My late Dad (RCJ I), who took me, was reading an article about BN and ATSF merging! I was amazed at that! Glad I rode this train! The official combination of ATSF and BN was December 31, 1996.
RJ
1:27 In the background is the former Milwaukee Road roundhouse where I started my railroad career in 1974. After the last bankruptcy I went over to Northtown Diesel Shop on Burlington Northern in 1979 where I retired in 2013. Good career. Those Santa Fe Warbonnets were a sharp paint scheme when they were new.
Sounds like you had a long, and enjoyable career on the railroad! :D It would have been neat to see those warbonnets when they were new, and in fresh paint. Thanks for watching!
Hey there and that was a great video I m hoping that you can make another video on the Santa Fe locomotives survivers if you can and that would be great and thank you on making this great video and thanks again
Wow this quartet at the begining of the video is surely something pretty rare and unusual in 2024 as you said! Great catch Douglas! Another excellent video from you bro! ;)
I’m happy to say that these engines will be rebuilt in the near future the only downside is they’re going to lose their red and silver paint and receive heritage III colors engine 537 was donated to the railroading heritage of Mid-America in Silvis Illinois and will be restored into Santa Fe war bonnet colors
The red Warbonnet design is so iconic that I'm sure it will survive on some locomotives in the future, perhaps with heritage engines. Here in Europe, this livery is - next to the UP yellow - the most famous locomotive painting from the USA - even before BNSF orange, CSX blue and NS black.
Soon there will be another chance! The first ex ATSF B40-8W is now preserved at Silvis, IL Railroading Heritage of Midwest America shops! During the expensive shop tour (June 29, 24) my friend "Mazon" and I (RLJ II) from MI saw ex BNSF/ATSF B40-8W # 537 in primer paint. This engine will be restored to fresh ATSF "Warbonnet" colors which is amazing! WOW, I cannot wait for this to happen! 😁
RJ
blue and yellow is the better of the two liveries
Those Locomotives BETTER be Preserved. Also, they should be a Fresh coat of Santa Fe paint.
I know that BNSF 537 has been preserved by RRHMA! They plan to repaint it into Santa Fe colors.
@@SD457500, yes there will be another chance! The first ex ATSF B40-8W is now preserved at Silvis, IL Railroading Heritage of Midwest America shops! During the expensive shop tour (June 29, 24) my friend "Mazon" and I (RLJ II) from MI saw this engine in primer paint! It will be restored to great fresh ATSF "Warbonnet" colors which is amazing! WOW, I cannot wait for this to happen! 😁
RJ
Fantastic video and enjoyed watching. I wished the BNSF would give these fresh paint as warbonnets then they would have a whole heritage fleet. Have a nice rest of your day.(Steve)
Hi SD457500! I first want to say, great info and footage of these amazing old school ATSF locos! Back in nov 2016, my close friend and I literally caught BNSF 554 (which I beleive is currently in Galesburg IL but not sure), leading 558 and 542 on a PTC move through Fullerton, CA station! I will never forget that move! Glad to see both Dash 8s are surviving 34 years after they were built! Again great footage! This "Legendary Cheering Railfan" approves! :)
In my book, they are still SUPER locos.
Even worn looking, they can still work hard, and look great stretching their legs on the rails. Thanks for watching!
4:09 I saw UP 2213 in Council Bluffs, IA back on September 29th, 2023, I wonder when it ended up In Minneapolis/St. Paul
Neat to hear how that unit is making its way around the Union Pacific system. With UP selling off other SD60s, its nice to see some of them still running around.
I enjoyed the history and memories. Thank you for sharing! 😊😊😊😊❤❤❤❤
Long live Santa Fe! I remember seeing these GE Dash 9-44-CW's, along with Santa Fe EMD SD75I's in the "War Bonnet" scheme with the "billboard" Santa Fe, back in the '90s. I was living in Colorado Springs, CO along the "Joint Line" and saw these units almost all the time. Around this same time, when the Santa Fe was receiving their new diesels, the Burlington Northern was receiving their SD70MAC locomotives. Man, how I miss those days. And speaking of the Burlington Northern Railroad, are you still able to spot any diesels still wearing BN paint? God bless.
Yes, there are plenty of locomotives still in Burlington Northern colors, from green SD40-2s to executive SD70MACs, there are still plenty out there.
I'll bet the Santa Fe power was beautiful when it was new!! 😊😊😊❤❤❤
A Santa Fe red warbonnet was my very first model train. I obviously fell in love and still adore them today. Living on the east coast I have never seen one in person, but hopefully I will one day.
Hopefully you can see one of them on run through power! Even the 'fake bonnets' running around are pretty neat. Thanks for watching!
VERY COOL VIDEO ... THANKS FOR SHARING THIS!!!
Thanks for watching; glad you enjoyed it!
It’s a shame BNSF doesn’t restore the paint job of the War Bonnets. Also, these are like the closest things to heritage units we’ll get from BNSF, because I’ve never seen one while other railroads have a few.
Amazing to see all these old Santa Fe locomotives still in use! It’s just so happy to see! ❤️🤩
Despite seeing RCO equipped C44-9Ws now! This is odd considering what they used to do! But I am so glad to see them still working! Even BNSF 700 series "Warbonnets" are nice! 😁
RJ
I wonder if the PRLX SD75Is still in their warbonnet paint would count.
I have footage of 588 and 542 doing track speed headed back to NTW on the St Cloud Job
I remember the first time I drove past the Topeka shops and saw the line of warbonnets, no doubt probably some of these here as that was nearly a decade ago. It seemed unreal.
It’s too bad that the BNSF does not paint them back to their original warbpnnet paint scheme.
Alot of them B40-8s are with shortlines, RJ corman has quite a few of them. The C40-8Ws were sold off and alot of them are on CN roster. 554 is still running around northern IL. Them old units still hit the mainlines more than people think. I see warbonnet dash 9s here and there. The BN SD70MACs that are supposedly all in storage are still run on coal drags as DPUs and mixed freights here in IL.
CN retired their C40-8Ws in the last few years. Only a small amount, including "Cowls", are in storage. CN keeps some supposedly if they have traffic surges!
RJ
BNSF 558, is also Better known as a fakebonnet as it is not a warrbonnet (Santa Fe)
its always funny to me that some BN painted engines in better shape were repainted back in the early 2010s, but these were continuing to fade and fade and still fade now here in 2024.
That is a very good point; many former BN units got BNSF orange, while so many former Santa Fe units continue to fade away. Maybe BNSF didn't plan to keep a lot of the Santa Fe units around as long as they have been?
@@SD457500 I have no idea. All i know now is that railraods do a lot of things that dont make much sense.
Hi from England wow!!! this is the biz well done and thank you. "All the way with santa fe"
How sad to see such a faded legacy of the fabulous war bonnet paint scheme.
2213 is the cleanest UP engine Ive ever seen and shes older than the super fleet locos.
Where did Burlington North call home! 😊😊
This is why I need to get employed by a western railroad
Very nice video, you got yourself another subscriber my friend. The Warbonnet paint scheme is one of my favorites, and it's nice to see it still in action despite being far past its former glory.
I saw 2 Warbonnet Santa Fe AC4400's coming from Wickenburg, Arizona to NW Phoenix a few weeks ago. It'd be nice if BNSF would paint 5 or 6 new locomotives in Santa Fe paint so we can continue to see these historic paint schemes into the future.
Where they in the 7XX series, or 47XXs? A few of the C44-9Ws still look decent, and are even leading out on the mainline. Its hard to see these days! Thanks for the comment, and watching.
I didn't catch the road numbers I was driving in traffic. I saw the lead headlight, then noticed they were war bonnet's. I about flipped out when I saw they were still in Santa Fe paint. They looked pretty good. Faded, but not faded nearly as bad as the locomotives in your video. The trains running on that section of double track generally run 3 engines. The third engine in that lash-up was an orange BNSF, I didn't pay any attention to it so I don't know what it was?@@SD457500
Santa Fe never had AC44s.
Sorry, I'm not that knowledgeable as a train spotter. Those mid 90's GE locomotives all look the same to me.@@ejdsndnj
This was cool man have you ever thought about showing the Canadian national yard or show us trains leaving to go on either side of the Mississippi river
How come they don’t restore the paint on these?
Boils down to money; the locomotive makes just as much money if the paint is fresh or faded. A new paint job costs a great deal of cash, and the big railroads would rather put that money into other things. Thanks for watching!
amazing how the odd loco/freight car is still wearing their original paint scheme even if they look a bit faded now
Really great shots with fantastic commentary, thanks for posting
The warbonnet made me like the color red
Wow how the paint has faded on those, but in a way it looks really nice as well. I like 542, how even the patch is fading away just like the original paint
Wow that's so cool! 😮
Unbelievable!
Great video!!!
Glad you liked it, and thank you for watching!
I Subscribed also!
We have warbonnet paint scheme HVAC’s we could put on those old units instead of the orange ones 😂 . The cabs in the -8’s are surprisingly pretty well taken care and the engine rooms are not as bad as some may think. I enjoy seeing these as the new hump sets rather than the older mother/slug setups.
I mean, I know railfans, and some rails, wouldn't mind seeing those swapped out with warbonnet ones. :D So much Santa Fe power has shown up in the last year!
@@SD457500 oh I know I haven’t seen so many warbonnets here in the twin cities. I wanna say Barstow installed all of the RCL on them and Northtown is the test bed for them. It was like one day the hump set was replaced with -8’s and we thought that was cool, then we started seeing more and more warbonnets and re-painted -8’s with the FDL MUI engine still in them! A lot of us machinist have never worked on MUI FDL’s so that’ll be fun.
I enjoyed this a lot, thanks for uploading it!
Glad you enjoyed it, and appreciate the kind words. Thanks for watching!
It really is sad looking that their paint has not held up well over the years. At least there some employees who do give a few of em touch ups every now and then.
They are looking pretty sad these days. You make a good point about the touch ups; I've seen some rather impressive touch ups over the years.
...... I know it's heresy to suggest this... but how would a Warbonnet scheme look in BNSF orange and maybe white or yellow or BN green... can't visualize a complementary or contrast color.... (you don't need to tell me I've lost a few marbles...)
Part of it is due to how bad the paint the ATSF used on them. The ATSF bonnets were fading pretty badly 10, 15 even 20 years ago, but the Fakebonnets from a few years later look much better.
Here's hoping that, once 537's repaint at the RRHMA site in Silvis, Illinois is completed, the Super Fleet Warbonnet will live again with fresh paint all around. ^^
Even if it will be just one unit. :)
I hope they will get a second unit to match! During the expensive shop tour (June 29, 24) my friend "Mazon" and I (RLJ II) from MI saw ex BNSF/ATSF B40-8W # 537 in primer paint. WOW, I cannot wait for this to be restored to fresh ATSF "Warbonnet" colors!!!! 😁
RJ
@@trains2495 For sure. :)
Why are the ex-ATSF C44-9Ws being sent for yard service?
Makes no sense seeing RCO equipped C44-9Ws now! This is odd considering what they used to do! But I am so glad to see them still working! This may make them last longer! For myself, even BNSF 700 series "Warbonnets" are nice! Their paint is much better and they were built in 1997 for BNSF!
RJ
@@trains2495 agreed
great vidya!!