RobertThurman, respected as he is, is way under rated. He’s absolutely amazing and one of (if not THE best) best representatives of the Dharma in the west.
My grandfather spent thenlast few years of his life with a deep pain due to COPD. It was hard to watch. It got to a point whrte he had only a quarter lung capacity towards his last few months. But in the end on hospice, all that pain went away on morphine. He even got some of his witts and humor back, which was deeply missed. I visited him on his last day and he was suprised and happy to see me. It was such a blessing to have that and know he was enjoying his last moments
You are wonderful Bob Thurman. Tha you for teaching us that we are not the body mind. I have a life limiting illness and it has been so comforting to listen to you.
I was doing the UA-cam equivalent of channel surfing and I happened upon this. I wasn’t even paying attention at first, then you said something that made me laugh, then something that made me thing, then something that made me cry. And I’m not even halfway through the video yet. I should just shut up and keep listening.
I don't mean to be contradictory....but how does one be fearless? Better to say Be Love....but then you are faced with Eternity which is scary.....meaning ''No Time"...and why Eternity? Because you can never Love enough...infinite
Wonderful wonderful super super important information that at least everyone in the world should hear once thank you for making this my man thank you for letting me hear this
Thank you for this. I was going to read your translation but I don’t know much about Buddhism to dive into it without any confusion. This commentary was great!!
1:00 The Twilight sky is the most amazing thing - definitely indescribable I hit it on a down hill drop on my bike many times on Mount Tamalpais Like it was a dream
His points about lucid dreaming are very well presented. The process of dying and becoming is similar in many ways to the process of going to sleep and dreaming. This is part of the practice of "dying before death" in the Tibetan Buddhist, Sufi, and Yogi traditions. Conscious sleep practices allow one to remain aware in the deep sleep state, the dream formation state, and the so-called waking state as well as the transitions between all three states. Having had a near death experience many years ago, the visionary being of light, who appeared to me in that state, directed me in a unique way to the Buddhist and Yoga practices which provided a better understanding (for me personally) of the NDE phenomenon that I had just experienced ... than anything I had learned during my Roman Catholic upbringing. My sense is that the process of dying can vary significantly by individual based on the individual's life conditioning albeit conforming to certain general patterns.
Paul, I had a bad one many years ago. You can see my post above. It's something that you don't forget. I'm still a work in progress. I think being able to read my Vedic charts helped me to see my own Karma. I know that I need a lot of forgiveness from others & have realized the bad stuff that I've gone through is just my own Karma.
@@JenniferGlenn-my3zl My NDE was actually a "good one" in a sense since I emerged completely SYMPTOM-FREE from a 3-day "Irreversible coma" with a clear recollection of all that all transpired ... visionary being of light, verifiable remote viewing, out-of-body, and full awareness of returning to the physical vehicle. It was a mind-boggling, life-transforming experience. In that sense, it was a "very good NDE". (-:
@@JenniferGlenn-my3zl My NDE was actually a "good one" many years ago. In my NDE, I emerged completely SYMPTOM-FREE from a 3-day "irreversible coma" with a clear recollection of all that had transpired during that period ... visionary being of light, awesome peace, verifiable remote viewing, out-of-body, and a complete awareness of the descent back into the physical vehicle. That is why Buddhism appealed to me ... particularly the Satipatthana Sutra ... since it starts with the body ---> feelings ---> thoughts/mental-activity ---> that which lies beyond thoughts. It resonated and I knew intuitively (in conjunction with my vision) that this was the way back (to original nature). Hence, it was a very very good NDE. P.S. I couldn't find the post about your NDE.
Oh my god, that is the best example of i have heard .. A state when you lose your identity.... So in essence meditation is simply to lose your identity... I've never been able to meditate. Maybe if I just try losing my identity, I'll happen to experience my first meditation.
When my father was dying in the hospital I had to fight with the doctors to leave him be and make him as comfortable as possible. At first they wouldn’t even put him on morphine and I had to threaten to get him out of the hospital and administer the meds he was prescribed for pain
I admire you for your concern about your fathers suffering.I had a terrible time with this same issue.I am unsure if morphine may interfere with the clear light and have not resolved this issue but your compassion was certainly a good thing.oI would like to have asked Dr.Timothy Leary about this matter.Perhaps Robert Thurman will weigh in on the matter.
@@joseflemire4284 7:12 thanks for bringing to my attention that I have fallen into the error of confusing brain with mind!It is not unreasonable to experience pure conscious free of the perturbations of the brain.Therefore one could use morphine to ease pain of the he body but not effect pure consciousness of the Primary Light . Thanks for helping see the obvious confusion .🕉
Interesting conversation with you guys going back and forth thank you.. I'm going to add my two cents if i may , I heard that it is really a good idea to not be in an altered state.... I guess so that you know that you're dying..... but consciousness is separate from the brain.... The brain is just a body part. The body comfort might not have mattered because his consciousness might have already left his body even prior to the body dying, so morphine might not have mattered. Hospitals are evil.... They're part of the pharmaceutical cabal and doctors are trained by the evil pharma mafia.... In eight years of medical training you're given two weeks of food importance..... they are only trained to write a prescription for pharmamafia. I do not fear hospitals I hate them
@@Littletree-nu2sehard to describe briefly but it helped me see life is a beautiful gift worth enjoying appreciating and protecting, helped me cry and laugh. Showed me areas where I’ve been irresponsible and need to do better. Do I still feel that way? Not all the time unfortunately but it was good.
@@dkmagos did your experience feel real and other worldly ? Or do you think that it’s just that powerful on the brain? Also was it painful or scary ? I’ve been interested in it but sometimes when I watch videos about it it seems intense
@@Littletree-nu2se I would say it feels real AND otherworldly at the same time. I'm a bit of skeptic so I mostly see if at it is powerfully using the brain's systmes to change our perception, but I like to believe in a bit of magic so maybe there is a beyond it taps you in to? Certainly moments that feels that way. IF you prepare and do it with adequate guidance and are cleared physically etc, its fine. It can be scary but not overwhelmingly so. most people in the retreat I did felt uplifted from their experinces.
Ironically my only fear of death is to reincarnate back here with my memory wiped and to relive the painful experiences as though I have never been here before childish I know but a fear nonetheless
Dear Bob I'm assuming your first name is Robert and with your knowledge I'm sure you know that your name means the light bringer or bright light...... so your name means the lightbringer through men that's really cool
well, always enjoy your knowledge, thank you for sharing. but one thing i disagree with is your vision of disco lights being shown as a method of dying …. i choose the last screen in “Soylent Green” where he is lying in bed surrounded by a large radius screen, showing the all beauty on earth , like a field of sunflowers with classical music …. perhaps any Vangelis music.
The presentation was interesting until the 9:40 The idea of nothing after death in not "to be nothing" but to cease to be "I" Once dead, the consciousness ceases. The person - the same person that minutes ago Dr Thurman recognized keeps changing throughout life - reaches the final change: Dissolves in its components returning to the universe from where it was formed. The person is gone, but the reverberations of that life remains as part - small or big - of what the rest will call "destiny". It is disappointing that as we die - everyday one day - trying to live - everyday one day - learned people preach (with good intentions or else) idiotic beliefs.
Simply Wonder-fuel😍
RobertThurman, respected as he is, is way under rated. He’s absolutely amazing and one of (if not THE best) best representatives of the Dharma in the west.
I listen to other readings of the Book of the Dead and I really like the way Robert explains everything he's a character and knowledgeable
One of my favorite teachers. Thank you always, Robert. 🕉
This man is an utter delight, a truely warm and lucid narrator. This was beautifully filmed as well.
My grandfather spent thenlast few years of his life with a deep pain due to COPD. It was hard to watch. It got to a point whrte he had only a quarter lung capacity towards his last few months. But in the end on hospice, all that pain went away on morphine. He even got some of his witts and humor back, which was deeply missed. I visited him on his last day and he was suprised and happy to see me. It was such a blessing to have that and know he was enjoying his last moments
You are wonderful Bob Thurman. Tha you for teaching us that we are not the body mind. I have a life limiting illness and it has been so comforting to listen to you.
I was doing the UA-cam equivalent of channel surfing and I happened upon this. I wasn’t even paying attention at first, then you said something that made me laugh, then something that made me thing, then something that made me cry. And I’m not even halfway through the video yet.
I should just shut up and keep listening.
I didn’t mean to use “thing” as a verb, but I kind of like it.
We are discouraged from daydreaming especially when we are children when it’s actually a very important part of healthy development and healing
Be fearless. Fearlessness is the perfection of faith.🕯️
I don't mean to be contradictory....but how does one be fearless? Better to say Be Love....but then you are faced with Eternity which is scary.....meaning ''No Time"...and why Eternity? Because you can never Love enough...infinite
Wonderful wonderful super super important information that at least everyone in the world should hear once thank you for making this my man thank you for letting me hear this
Thank you for explaining the Tibetan book of the living (dead😊) this will be very helpful to myself and many more 🙏❤️🙏
Thank you for this. I was going to read your translation but I don’t know much about Buddhism to dive into it without any confusion. This commentary was great!!
1:00 The Twilight sky is the most amazing thing - definitely indescribable
I hit it on a down hill drop on my bike many times on Mount Tamalpais
Like it was a dream
May God bless you Bob and your loved ones!
Thank you Dr Bob !!🙏♥️🙏🇬🇧
Such a beautiful talk Bob. Thank you 🙏
Brilliant as always. Great clarity and insight, thank you for sharing it.
Blessed to have seen this gem 💎 Thank you Bob Thurman I appreciated this wisdom/knowledge ❤😊
So happy found these talks and the way Robert teaches.
I'm in UK however a visit is possible
Much metta
Immense gratitude
His points about lucid dreaming are very well presented. The process of dying and becoming is similar in many ways to the process of going to sleep and dreaming. This is part of the practice of "dying before death" in the Tibetan Buddhist, Sufi, and Yogi traditions. Conscious sleep practices allow one to remain aware in the deep sleep state, the dream formation state, and the so-called waking state as well as the transitions between all three states. Having had a near death experience many years ago, the visionary being of light, who appeared to me in that state, directed me in a unique way to the Buddhist and Yoga practices which provided a better understanding (for me personally) of the NDE phenomenon that I had just experienced ... than anything I had learned during my Roman Catholic upbringing.
My sense is that the process of dying can vary significantly by individual based on the individual's life conditioning albeit conforming to certain general patterns.
Paul, I had a bad one many years ago. You can see my post above. It's something that you don't forget. I'm still a work in progress. I think being able to read my Vedic charts helped me to see my own Karma. I know that I need a lot of forgiveness from others & have realized the bad stuff that I've gone through is just my own Karma.
@@JenniferGlenn-my3zl My NDE was actually a "good one" in a sense since I emerged completely SYMPTOM-FREE from a 3-day "Irreversible coma" with a clear recollection of all that all transpired ... visionary being of light, verifiable remote viewing, out-of-body, and full awareness of returning to the physical vehicle. It was a mind-boggling, life-transforming experience. In that sense, it was a "very good NDE". (-:
@@JenniferGlenn-my3zl My NDE was actually a "good one" many years ago. In my NDE, I emerged completely SYMPTOM-FREE from a 3-day "irreversible coma" with a clear recollection of all that had transpired during that period ... visionary being of light, awesome peace, verifiable remote viewing, out-of-body, and a complete awareness of the descent back into the physical vehicle. That is why Buddhism appealed to me ... particularly the Satipatthana Sutra ... since it starts with the body ---> feelings ---> thoughts/mental-activity ---> that which lies beyond thoughts. It resonated and I knew intuitively (in conjunction with my vision) that this was the way back (to original nature). Hence, it was a very very good NDE.
P.S. I couldn't find the post about your NDE.
Oh my god, that is the best example of i have heard .. A state when you lose your identity.... So in essence meditation is simply to lose your identity... I've never been able to meditate. Maybe if I just try losing my identity, I'll happen to experience my first meditation.
Just eat 2 grams of magic mushrooms.
Nothing but gratitude for the information provided 🙏❤️
I find myself smiling and nodding, yes, it's much like that, and then I recall Ram Dass' crocheter!! ❤ lol 😆
Thank you for your teaching 🙏 ❤
The ultimate surrender of self . I’m preparing. This is such a wonderful teaching. My gratitude.
Love to everyone 🙏🙏🙏
Love everything he said I cried listening to this, everything he said related to the lessons I learned during my ayhausca experience or sprite quest.
Thank you
When my father was dying in the hospital I had to fight with the doctors to leave him be and make him as comfortable as possible. At first they wouldn’t even put him on morphine and I had to threaten to get him out of the hospital and administer the meds he was prescribed for pain
I admire you for your concern about your fathers suffering.I had a terrible time with this same issue.I am unsure if morphine may interfere with the clear light and have not resolved this issue but your compassion was certainly a good thing.oI would like to have asked Dr.Timothy Leary about this matter.Perhaps Robert Thurman will weigh in on the matter.
@@jeffreycabanellas8113 Once the brain dies...consciousness is free...they are not synonymous
@@joseflemire4284 7:12 thanks for bringing to my attention that I have fallen into the error of confusing brain with mind!It is not unreasonable to experience pure conscious free of the perturbations of the brain.Therefore one could use morphine to ease pain of the he body but not effect pure consciousness of the Primary Light . Thanks for helping see
the obvious confusion .🕉
Interesting conversation with you guys going back and forth thank you..
I'm going to add my two cents if i may , I heard that it is really a good idea to not be in an altered state.... I guess so that you know that you're dying..... but consciousness is separate from the brain.... The brain is just a body part. The body comfort might not have mattered because his consciousness might have already left his body even prior to the body dying, so morphine might not have mattered.
Hospitals are evil.... They're part of the pharmaceutical cabal and doctors are trained by the evil pharma mafia.... In eight years of medical training you're given two weeks of food importance..... they are only trained to write a prescription for pharmamafia.
I do not fear hospitals I hate them
At he be at peace now
Tashi delek Sir ! Thanks a bunch
🙏🏼❤️🌹LVX
Much lov n respect
Brilliant
Awesome
Our luck is that we met Bob in our life over the web in the Bardo.
Ah! Excellent
actually the Tibetan of dead is the introduction to tell us that there is no endless life the mind of each person keep traveling life after life
I LOVE THIS VIDEO! - watched it before taking ayahuasca :)
How was your experience on ayahuasca?
@@Littletree-nu2sehard to describe briefly but it helped me see life is a beautiful gift worth enjoying appreciating and protecting, helped me cry and laugh. Showed me areas where I’ve been irresponsible and need to do better. Do I still feel that way? Not all the time unfortunately but it was good.
@@dkmagos did your experience feel real and other worldly ? Or do you think that it’s just that powerful on the brain? Also was it painful or scary ? I’ve been interested in it but sometimes when I watch videos about it it seems intense
@@Littletree-nu2se I would say it feels real AND otherworldly at the same time. I'm a bit of skeptic so I mostly see if at it is powerfully using the brain's systmes to change our perception, but I like to believe in a bit of magic so maybe there is a beyond it taps you in to? Certainly moments that feels that way. IF you prepare and do it with adequate guidance and are cleared physically etc, its fine. It can be scary but not overwhelmingly so. most people in the retreat I did felt uplifted from their experinces.
Lama khenno 🙏
Ironically my only fear of death is to reincarnate back here with my memory wiped and to relive the painful experiences as though I have never been here before childish I know but a fear nonetheless
That's what I'm afraid of too!
Not of dying, but of not learning enough and having to go through the same things again!
100%. I guess that's one of the incentives to generate merit and improve your karma?
My fear too!
I quite like the idea of living my life over the same trillions of times.
@jshakes1806 lol ofcourse you do
Your a complete 💎
Maiby maybe its about .When you closed your eye and see a light .Thise light should be not 5 prosent but 199 also as/when we are awake.
LoveLee1💙💙
The doctors need to stop the idea of life prolongation when someone is terminal and suffering
So what about the deception of death rituals?
Dear Bob I'm assuming your first name is Robert and with your knowledge I'm sure you know that your name means the light bringer or bright light...... so your name means the lightbringer through men that's really cool
45:29 🙏🏼🙏🏿🙏🏾
well, always enjoy your knowledge, thank you for sharing. but one thing i disagree with is your vision of disco lights being shown as a method of dying …. i choose the last screen in “Soylent Green” where he is lying in bed surrounded by a large radius screen, showing the all beauty on earth , like a field of sunflowers with classical music …. perhaps any Vangelis music.
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Thank you !
not sure there are discotheques anymore...
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His fear stopes his there is no 1 there 0,1 we cant understand 1
Lee💙💙
20:32 DMT is a great way to learn how to let go. One experience might even be enough
I will definitely avoid the Brexit couple 😂.
Wonderful teaching ❤
This man’s voice has an uncanny resemblance to Jordan Peterson’s voice.
Lmao, don't do Bob like that!.
JP sounds more like Kermit though
Interesting, Bruce lee talked about the art of dying in one of his movies.
Eastern Pennsylvania
The beginning is hilarious lol
🫂🌎🫂sharing
The presentation was interesting until the 9:40
The idea of nothing after death in not "to be nothing" but to cease to be "I"
Once dead, the consciousness ceases. The person - the same person that minutes ago Dr Thurman recognized keeps changing throughout life - reaches the final change: Dissolves in its components returning to the universe from where it was formed. The person is gone, but the reverberations of that life remains as part - small or big - of what the rest will call "destiny".
It is disappointing that as we die - everyday one day - trying to live - everyday one day - learned people preach (with good intentions or else) idiotic beliefs.
Audio is terribly captured. Disliked.
this dude looks like he plays slide guitar
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