Caves come to mind as a decent utility land package, and with Biovisionary you wouldn't even need that many of them. Sultai colors would also get you that, plus loam and the entire transmute mechanic if you want it.
March From Velis Vel just seems like another win con in a landfall deck 😛 "Got lots of lands and nothing to do with them? Well donl I have the solution for you!" (Cultivator Colossus)
Final Act can also be a politics piece to remove your opponents' poison counters , which iirc is smth that used to be exclusive to Leeches . also as a Monument to Perfection lover , legal rangeling is huge
The omni land I can see being more impactful in Legacy with Locus and Urza lands. But that gives edh 8 Urza typed lands for Urzas Workshop. 3 Urzatron, factory, Saga, Cave, workshop, and nexus.
IMO March from Velis Vel will be best for decks that care about either Creature Types or Trigger abilities, yes you won't have perfect amount of land types but its still good in decks that care about these things. I'd put this is a 3+ colour deck to max out the number of land types you can use into the deck to make it work (e.g. 3 Colour you'd have the 3x Crime Lands, 3x Gates, a few Caves, Utility Desserts like Arid Archway & Scavenger Grounds etc...). Examples of decks that might like this card are: 1) Be'lakor, the Dark Master: has 2 effects, when it ETB's it draws draws equal to the number of Demons you control & when another Demon ETB's it deals damage equal to that Demon's power. Cast a copy of the Commander & get at least 2 cards & deal 6 damage for 3 mana. 2) Felix Five-Boots: adds another combat triggers, clone Felix & now you have x3 the attack triggers instead of x2. 3) Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm: since the copies ain't Tokens Miirym ability will trigger to create a copy of that card. Copy Miirym & the OG Miirym will create a 3rd copy giving you 3 copies of Miirym & if you can cast another Dragon you get 3 Miirym triggers & have 4 copies of that Dragon you casted.
I want to find a home for March from Velis Vel in my Obeka, Brute Chronologist deck. But it's hard to justify making the mana base worse for one fun card in the 99. Seems like it's a decent pet card in any Gates deck that has green and blue in it's identity.
The land makesburzas workshop tap for another mana so I might tryit in my kozilek deck over a weaker option. And March can turn all your gates into gatebreaker ram.. which isn't good but it is sweet
Lately I've been making my budget/4fun decks with mana base based on gates, caves or deserts just because it's more fun that way. Now I'm hoping Planar Nexus and March of Velis Veil are cheap.
There are so many cards lately that bring cloudpost combos back in my mind we even have a few land copy options with thespian stages and the cave that comes in coping graveyard land as well as monument of perfection searching for locus you can now have4 cloudpost and16 mana in commander with4 cards
I dunno... Four mana to make two tokens and can't be reduced by his effect? I was thinking it might be better in something like Zada Hedron Grinder. Then again the stapled on goblin bombardment may be pretty useful... All worth thinking about.
@@japplekoh I will absolutely be running this in my Zada deck. Granted it’s not a really high power build cuz my group doesn’t really play more than casual so idk how it will do in high power builds, but I’m certainly excited for it!
Final Act is an exile sweeper in black, right? It destroys all creatures, sending them to the graveyard, and then it exiles all graveyards. Obviously not as oppressive as Farewell, but it's still mass exile removal in black.
I like March from Velis Val in my Kenessos, Priest of Thassa deck. I use snow lands to help with some sea monster synergy. Then you can turn all snow lands into something like Spawning Kraken or Stormtide Leviathan.
Let's say your Commander has a really good death trigger. March From Velis Vel could be a late-game blowout by making all your Swamps or whatever turn into that creature, triggering the legend rule.
5:25 Minor correction, Nearby Planet does not count as a basic. It works with cards that care about basic land types since it has all of them, but it's still a nonbasic land. Planar Nexus fixes all the power issues of Nearby Planet (fetchlands can't get it, it doesn't max domain by itself, and making colored mana actually has a cost). I'm very glad this effect is on a card you can play without pregame discussion now. Tron-lands instantly get turned on, which is very cool. Monument to Perfection can grab it and the other Locus lands.
If I understand “March from VelisVel” correctly the lands keep their types. So it can turn a Gatebreaker Ram into a board full of giant trampling hasty attackers. Sounds like a win con to me
It seems people on Reddit think this won’t work. 🤷♂️
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@@methmeth I don't see why it couldn't, but for it to work consistently as a wincon, it looks like it will need a LOT of support, thus possibly weakening the mana base and viability of the deck's synergies. (I would expect 5-6 typed nonbasics to be the minimum to have consistently on board to have a major effect, coupled with a creature you really want to copy) Gates and Deserts could probably pull it off with their special ramp, but it will still take quite a bit of set up. At least the spell has flashback. Problem with Gatebreaker Ram -> you would loose all gates you have as they are now rams.
I was seeing a lot of the “leaks” videos but was avoiding them because I suspected they could be fake but If Tomer is making a video they must be legit!
@@ShinkuDragon so in between that comment and now I found out the reason why nearby planet does it work is because the basic land types would remove all of its abilities.
I think the reason they made planar nexus is to have a land that can fit into all these non basic land decks but not having to be a five color deck. Cause by technicality, since nearby planet has all the basic land types it’s not like your usual “can tap for mana of any color” land and its color identity would by five color exclusive. Now obviously this doesn’t explain why nearby planet couldn’t be legal, but I think giving full domain on even a tapped land that you have to pay for could’ve probably been troublesome for legacy but probably not commander.
I must admit, I don't like final act. While it is nice to finaly get something playable to remove player counters, sticking it on a card that is mostly slotted in for board whipe/GY hate feels not good. If someone is playing with experience counters they just get got randomly. I would have prefered something along the lines of Pest Control, where the effect might be niche but has cycling to get use out of the card.
They're commander decks themed around the same things the set are themed around. There is lore that they can both center on. Would you rather the commander cards be IN the set?
Use March From Velis Vel to win with Biovisionary.
Caves come to mind as a decent utility land package, and with Biovisionary you wouldn't even need that many of them. Sultai colors would also get you that, plus loam and the entire transmute mechanic if you want it.
Would work in Nine-Fingers Keene with Biovisionary. Not sure you have enough other good creatures to copy for it to be worth it, though.
Final act, finally a way to deal with experience counters?
March From Velis Vel just seems like another win con in a landfall deck 😛
"Got lots of lands and nothing to do with them? Well donl I have the solution for you!"
(Cultivator Colossus)
But wouldn't landfall play a lot of basic forests? What non-basic land type are you chosing?
Final Act can also be a politics piece to remove your opponents' poison counters , which iirc is smth that used to be exclusive to Leeches . also as a Monument to Perfection lover , legal rangeling is huge
and it removes expirence counters, charg counters etc. ;)
final act does exile all creatures because the effects resolve top down, exiling all the destroyed creatures last
But it won't address indestructable creatures since those won't be destroyed in the earlier part.
@@vctrsigma You also get to trigger all dies abilities.
The omni land I can see being more impactful in Legacy with Locus and Urza lands. But that gives edh 8 Urza typed lands for Urzas Workshop. 3 Urzatron, factory, Saga, Cave, workshop, and nexus.
IMO March from Velis Vel will be best for decks that care about either Creature Types or Trigger abilities, yes you won't have perfect amount of land types but its still good in decks that care about these things.
I'd put this is a 3+ colour deck to max out the number of land types you can use into the deck to make it work (e.g. 3 Colour you'd have the 3x Crime Lands, 3x Gates, a few Caves, Utility Desserts like Arid Archway & Scavenger Grounds etc...).
Examples of decks that might like this card are:
1) Be'lakor, the Dark Master: has 2 effects, when it ETB's it draws draws equal to the number of Demons you control & when another Demon ETB's it deals damage equal to that Demon's power. Cast a copy of the Commander & get at least 2 cards & deal 6 damage for 3 mana.
2) Felix Five-Boots: adds another combat triggers, clone Felix & now you have x3 the attack triggers instead of x2.
3) Miirym, Sentinel Wyrm: since the copies ain't Tokens Miirym ability will trigger to create a copy of that card. Copy Miirym & the OG Miirym will create a 3rd copy giving you 3 copies of Miirym & if you can cast another Dragon you get 3 Miirym triggers & have 4 copies of that Dragon you casted.
If a card already on the battlefield becomes a copy of another card on the battlefield the ETB effect doesn't trigger
Planer nexus counts as all the tron lands so it can help you turn them on in comander
i bet its in the eldrazi precon
I mean it makes the urza lands much more likely to work the odds of getting all 3 in commander are so unlikely as is
@@certanmike it's also added to the newest urza land that taps for more mana for each individual urza land u have, it's like the locust lands
@@brandandixon3943Its probably in the UG Lands precon since it has to do with nonbasic land types like march of the v something
@@SyntheticNuclearWhy not both?
I want to find a home for March from Velis Vel in my Obeka, Brute Chronologist deck. But it's hard to justify making the mana base worse for one fun card in the 99. Seems like it's a decent pet card in any Gates deck that has green and blue in it's identity.
Well march from the Vail and gates or whatever with a eldrazi 5 color deck or sliver deck works nicely
The land makesburzas workshop tap for another mana so I might tryit in my kozilek deck over a weaker option. And March can turn all your gates into gatebreaker ram.. which isn't good but it is sweet
I wouldn't turn them into Gatebreaker Rams, as they cease to be gates while cloning, resulting in quite small Rams. Gate Colossus, though...
Planar Nexus almost gives me hope for a crazy good mana base for the Eldrazi deck with all the Urza and Locus lands
Lately I've been making my budget/4fun decks with mana base based on gates, caves or deserts just because it's more fun that way. Now I'm hoping Planar Nexus and March of Velis Veil are cheap.
I could have almost used March from Velis Vel in my gates deck to make a bunch of Progenetis copies if it was anything other than Progenetis
There are so many cards lately that bring cloudpost combos back in my mind we even have a few land copy options with thespian stages and the cave that comes in coping graveyard land as well as monument of perfection searching for locus you can now have4 cloudpost and16 mana in commander with4 cards
For whatever reason I can't view the article the site seems to be a day behind
My Gates deck is unfortunately a Sisay deck so copies aren't ideal. But all my Gates being a Bloom Tender sounds kinda cool.
Hmm, use March From Velis Vel in Mono Blue Tron and make every Urza's Land into a Wormcoil Engine?
siege-gang lieutenant is perfect for magnus the red
I dunno... Four mana to make two tokens and can't be reduced by his effect? I was thinking it might be better in something like Zada Hedron Grinder. Then again the stapled on goblin bombardment may be pretty useful... All worth thinking about.
@@japplekoh I will absolutely be running this in my Zada deck. Granted it’s not a really high power build cuz my group doesn’t really play more than casual so idk how it will do in high power builds, but I’m certainly excited for it!
@@japplek yeah but its every turn, preferably played on the turn before magnus comes out
how about locus type (Cloudpost) for march from velis vel to get insane amounts of mana.
Curious: is Planar Nexus the same as Changeling where it has all the types while not on the battlefield as well as on it?
Yes, it's a characteristic-setting ability.
Final Act is an exile sweeper in black, right? It destroys all creatures, sending them to the graveyard, and then it exiles all graveyards. Obviously not as oppressive as Farewell, but it's still mass exile removal in black.
It can't remove indestructible creatures though
@@NicoloRisso Fair point.
I like March from Velis Val in my Kenessos, Priest of Thassa deck. I use snow lands to help with some sea monster synergy. Then you can turn all snow lands into something like Spawning Kraken or Stormtide Leviathan.
Snow isn't a land type unfortunately. It is a permanent type, so it can't be named when March from Velis Vale
@@jasperfuhs4988 well that makes sense now why it hadn't been mentioned.
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Let's say your Commander has a really good death trigger. March From Velis Vel could be a late-game blowout by making all your Swamps or whatever turn into that creature, triggering the legend rule.
Can’t choose basics
Velis vel would be insane in gates if prime time was legal
5:25 Minor correction, Nearby Planet does not count as a basic. It works with cards that care about basic land types since it has all of them, but it's still a nonbasic land.
Planar Nexus fixes all the power issues of Nearby Planet (fetchlands can't get it, it doesn't max domain by itself, and making colored mana actually has a cost).
I'm very glad this effect is on a card you can play without pregame discussion now. Tron-lands instantly get turned on, which is very cool. Monument to Perfection can grab it and the other Locus lands.
Does Planar Nexus work with Urzatron lands ?
It doesn’t just work, it works REALLY well. It satisfies tron _by itself._
New desert just dropped with Planar Nexus. The Lisan Al Gaib is very excited for this (aka any of the desert commanders)
Shai Hulud will decide if this deserves excitement.
If I understand “March from VelisVel” correctly the lands keep their types. So it can turn a Gatebreaker Ram into a board full of giant trampling hasty attackers. Sounds like a win con to me
It seems people on Reddit think this won’t work. 🤷♂️
@@methmeth I don't see why it couldn't, but for it to work consistently as a wincon, it looks like it will need a LOT of support, thus possibly weakening the mana base and viability of the deck's synergies. (I would expect 5-6 typed nonbasics to be the minimum to have consistently on board to have a major effect, coupled with a creature you really want to copy)
Gates and Deserts could probably pull it off with their special ramp, but it will still take quite a bit of set up.
At least the spell has flashback.
Problem with Gatebreaker Ram -> you would loose all gates you have as they are now rams.
They do not keep their types. They become copies of Gatebreaker Ram so they are no longer lands or gates until EOT.
Question, will the commander cards be in the Collector's boosters? or just in the precons? Thank you!
Turn all your gates into copies of Gatebreaker Ram. You kinda just win.
Sadly not because they no longer are gates when they are rams so the rams are small
@@tomerabramovici32 what a lame card!
I was seeing a lot of the “leaks” videos but was avoiding them because I suspected they could be fake but If Tomer is making a video they must be legit!
There was so many leaks that WOTC addressed them and revealed some of them in better quality
WOTC decided to officially unveil these cards after the leaks: they're real :)
Planar Nexus being legal but Nearby Planet being acorn is my villain origin story.
nearby planet is one of the most busted cards they've ever printed. nexus is damn good too.
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@@ShinkuDragon so in between that comment and now I found out the reason why nearby planet does it work is because the basic land types would remove all of its abilities.
@@ShinkuDragon also nearby planet comes in tapped and you need to pay one manna for it it is not good
I think the reason they made planar nexus is to have a land that can fit into all these non basic land decks but not having to be a five color deck. Cause by technicality, since nearby planet has all the basic land types it’s not like your usual “can tap for mana of any color” land and its color identity would by five color exclusive. Now obviously this doesn’t explain why nearby planet couldn’t be legal, but I think giving full domain on even a tapped land that you have to pay for could’ve probably been troublesome for legacy but probably not commander.
I must admit, I don't like final act. While it is nice to finaly get something playable to remove player counters, sticking it on a card that is mostly slotted in for board whipe/GY hate feels not good. If someone is playing with experience counters they just get got randomly. I would have prefered something along the lines of Pest Control, where the effect might be niche but has cycling to get use out of the card.
March from Velis Vel > Pathrazer of Ulamog
Is that loot?
Final Act is what Farewell always should have been. Invalidating Heroic Intervention type protection spells was always stupid.
Siege-Gang COMMANDER (like the format), not Commando.
No one cares
@@keithmpire I obviously care.
@@dyne313 Try recording yourself talking about cards, see if you make a mistake
Where s flip Ugin Y____Y
Why are there commander cards in a Modern focused set? I mean I know why, but come on.
these are from the commander precons only
Obviously
Money - Mr Krabs.
History....I remember "Commander Masters" before Commander Masters
They're commander decks themed around the same things the set are themed around. There is lore that they can both center on.
Would you rather the commander cards be IN the set?
Cloud post go burr. Last card is cracked
i play a shrine gates deck and turning all my gates into shrines sounds good to me.
Shrine ain't a land type chief
Aren't all the shrines legendary?
WOTC: We allowed this leak and confirm its all true. Totally not intentional. 😉 😉 Just love all the naiveté ppl have. 😂
I cannot believe WOTC would nerf Battles by printing Final Act, lmao.
So, after the feedback that Farewell was one of the most anti-fun cancerous cards in Magic WotC thought... let's make another one... in black.
I agree with you but to be fair they made this card before farewell even released
It’s much fairer though. There’s over a dozen “mass indestructible until end of turn” spells which are completely invalidated by Farewell.
Sure, except it's missing every reason Farewell is hated.