How Racist Am I?
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- Опубліковано 29 бер 2021
- This is a difficult question to ask yourself. But recent events and an increasing amount of research has shown just how much racial bias impacts our world. Before we can start the work of dismantling systemic racism, we have to first understand our own biases. Glad You Asked host Cleo Abram explores if we can measure those biases, how we shine a light on them, and what to do about them.
0:00 Intro
1:11 Racial Bias
2:13 Measuring Bias
5:40 Talking Race
7:22 Cultural Thumbprint
10:41 How Racist Am I?
13:06 Personal Responsibility
19:55 Wrap Up
This season, Glad You Asked explores how racial injustice impacts our everyday lives. Look out for new episodes every day this week. And catch up on previous episodes of Glad You Asked here: bit.ly/3qJ4M5y
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@@WhiskeyFiend cause they treat natural things as Paranormal Activity. It's natural to prefer someone related to you in any sort of form.
@@WhiskeyFiend because they will never be real women
I am from India and I have brown skin colour my race is coloured aur mix race
I don't promote racism I want to end it I
am brown Indian my race is coloured or mixed .there is only one solution of racism take Sel from white people and don't do your biological children through IVF or ICSI injection . Through artificial insemination there is 50% chance please forgive me if you feel bad but complexion cannot be changed afterwards
Black people can be racist, white people can be racist, hispanics can be racist, asians can be racist, russians can be racist, australians can be racist, anyone can be racist.
This DOES NOT MEAN that we are all racist. It doesn't even mean we are all slightly racist. It means racism exists, and anyone can experience it.
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I am honestly confused bcs I even know if I am racist I dont think I am but Im so worried that I am I went to google to see if I could find an answer
bro spittin facts .
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Black people cannot be racist. You saying it doesn’t make it true ❤
Bias and prejudice are part of the human nature. But it's our actions that define us.
I beg to differ, prejudice is taught. It’s so ingrained in our societies that we learn it so young that some perceive it as implicit, yet it is not our nature.
I always find it disheartening when I hear someone say they need to "shut up and listen" or that "I'm not qualified to talk about race." Diversity in thought is important because everyone's racial experience is different.
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This would have been more interesting if the conversation would have involved people who disagree with each other, and they would have actually argued on the points of contention.
They trying to eliminate back and forth conversations in this new age of world order
Ikr, but find a white person who would be willing to put themselves out there potentially get flamed on the internet fo asking the wrong question
So, I don't understand one thing... Why is having racial preferences in dating racist?
For me it's like saying that having a preference for skinny people is fatphobic, just doesn't make that much sense in my head.
Because race doesn’t really fit like weight or the other “boxes” it’s not something really changeable and by decideing to exclude an entire group based on unchangable factors or something, but I’m just a person so idk
You can always lose weight or gain muscle but you can never change your race.
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@@moodu.m.a1888 I like people with peach complexion, they can change it and tan, sooooooo your argument is invalid
@@Karkan25 And? What if I don't like your culture? Am I forced to date you? Live my whole entire life with someone in not attracted to, so I don't get called A WORD?!? oh shut it. Both of you
“When you turn on the tv, play a video game or watching a movie the bad guys are typically always bald and typically always black”. I think this quote sort of delegitimizes what he says in general. I can’t think of any black villain, I even searched for it and I would say that 90% of the villains that came up were white. I don’t think he’s a bad person but when you say something that big then maybe your judgement on other things are very shifted as well
I agree can’t even think of a Vilan That’s bald and black but I can think of thousands Of white vilans
All I could think of was Nick Fury and Morpheus.
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Pulp Fiction with Samuel L Jackson came to mind for me first, of course he's not bald. And of course everyone there were villains, but he was one of the more memorable ones.
either tha villain inna media is black , or it's a stereotypical mexican being portrayed in a negative "macho" manner .
As a Russian I'd like to highlight that there are few things that are totally OK to kill in western movies and video games:
1.Undead nazi zombies
2.Genocidal aliens from outer space
3.Russians
I'm not really angry about that, but looks kinda hypocritical tbh.
Yes, the Germans and the Russians always made for popular movie villains, for obvious historic reasons.
@@HiAdrian But it’s not like historically Britain isn’t evil or United States isn’t, they love to use media to highlight the evils of other nations but not their own.
@@Akka992 Right, no disagreement there.
:) I think you should know why opt. Nr 3 is so totally okay
It aged well.
the editing is quite odd, especially during the card game. the stories were randomly cut off and i wanted to understand the participants :/
With Every video VOX is seeming more and more like BuzzFeed
Buzzfeed News (not Buzzfeed, there is a difference) has done some outstanding journalism. This is not the low-hanging-fruit criticism you think it is.
I’m a black Hispanic and I have my biases and acknowledge them. That being said it’s my job to work on them and treat all human beings with kindness, dignity, and respect regardless of how they look, what they believe in and who they’re attracted to sexually.
Then you are enabling degeneracy
I think it's human to have some implicit biases, but one must be fair to everyone.
Is not only individuals tho, systemic racism is definitely a thing. People of color expirience racism in a way white or light skin folk doesnt. I mean, you can have prejudice agaisnt white people, yet, that doesnt impact if they're able to get a good job, housing, healthcare and many other things.
I agree and don't think implicit bias is necessarily something that you can just erase/ignore in yourself. Instead it has to be a conscious decision to say "I'm biased towards/against X & to overcome that I'll do A, B, C & D. I'll try to remember these are my perceptions, not everyone else's reality and act accordingly."
It's not about being "color blind" but about understanding why you aren't & how it doesn't have to affect your response to others.
It is human to have them.
But which ones we do have, can at least a bit be influenced by society..often media. So those who create stuff can actually help a lot.
I wanted to get into this video/series but it’s hard to relate to Vox employees who live in the bubble of New York. I would prefer to see how joe six pack and middle America thinks about racism. The lack of diversity, in the cast also factored, we keep talking about a black and white differences but neglect the Asian/Hispanic/Jewish/Arab/ME perspective.
I wanted to see a wider range of ages/generation groups, not just within the 20-something Vox staff who all pretty much share the same stances on the subject.
“It’s naive to think that you wouldn’t have taken part in historical atrocities once considered normal if you embrace all the trendy ideas of today.”
-Ayishat Akanbi
I know it's a popular editing style to do quicker cuts and shift between different people taking. It can make the video more engaging and dynamic. But in the section that starts around 6:32, I really think it would have been much better to slow down and include enough of everyone's explanation so that the audience can understand the gist of what happened. In other words, the editor can have a bit more faith in the audience's attention span.
Simple question; does diversity of skin color represent a diversity of thought? or conversely, can people have different skin colors, and think exactly the same? hmmmm
Generally people of different races go through different experiences through their lives, so generally diversity of skin/race leads to more diversity of thought, but race is not a monolith everyone goes through their own life's differently which affects their views on certain topics. (hope that sort of answers your question)
I'd like to see the IAT test bias between attractive people and ugly people. I suspect that bias may be stronger and more widespread than any having to do with race.
I feel like longer cuts of the conversations would be more beneficial than slapping three different exercises into just one episode. It felt like nobody was given enough time to explore anything.
7:19 Please can you show any research on this that backs that up? The things I've been able to find show its predominantly white villains, so much so that you could argue there's not enough representation of other races in that role.
I think a big problem that is overlooked is how we create our own identity. Growing up white in America, I never had a sense that my whiteness was my identity. I did learn very early about racism though. I was in a poor, predominantly black neighborhood, and I was bullied, chased, and beaten up nearly everyday because I was white. I was called many derogatory racist names and my brother almost died after getting jumped by at least 5 black dudes who continued to stomp on his head while he was already on the ground.
Yet, somehow I still looked to black culture for inspiration. My role models were 2pac and Michael Jordan and I loved rap music and thought black culture was "cool". I think I was able to look up to the same "group" that was holding me down in my childhood because I didn't have an identity with my whiteness. It just happened to be the case that I was regularly harassed and assaulted by black people and just so happened that inspirational figures in my life were also black.
I truly believe the more we focus on our differences and see things as either racist or not, we will just become more divided.
You related to these men becuase of their the troubles they over came and the success they reached. Good for you !
Yeah i had a rough time working in LA construction. The Guatemalans out there don’t really care for a pale red head. I can tell you countless times I’ve seen racism from Hispanics towards white and the other way around. Even Asians a little bit. But not once have i seen anyone be racist towards a black man. I really think they are the less ones to have racism happen to them. I mean nobody would ever do that to a black man. But they make us think it’s all in disguise like we’re children that still believe in Santa clause. It’s amazing how many people fall for it. Just amazing
I don't think dating biases are racist. I mean we think it's normal for people to like a specific hair colour so why do you think that skin colour is any different than any other trade?
When someone asks you on a date, and you say no because of the color of their skin, you’re racist. I don’t care how you try to minimize and diminish your hateful thought processes; you’re racist.
Look at how the preferences articulated and the assumptions that articulation is based off of and you will often, in fact overwhelmingly find that the root causes of those assumptions and preferences are based on negative stereotypes.
THAT'S how it's different.
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How are they often articulated then? What kind of negative stereotypes?
Exactly, moreover you tend to judge beauty according to people you meet and see in childhood. Should you make your child see the same number of people of every race? It's muchmore racist to think like that than to not...
My boss used to said, everyone is racist because we have our own preferences to things. Just don't be extreme and try to see deeper before you judge.
It is true but omitting an important factor. Most people's racism has a pre-positioned direction against other races. This does not affect anything if the population consists of more or less equal concentration of each race. But US does not have a population like that. If one country has a predominant race, then like it or not, people from that group will have a pre-positioned racism direction that will make people from other races miserable in life. Just think about it from the stand point of a black folk, despite the fact that he may not do anything wrong, just by being black, he is disliked just ever so slightly by the majority of people in the country who have their own bias that ever so slightly tilted against this black guy. All things created equal, most people (white) almost always prefer white people just because of that slight, passive bias. This can cause the black guy miss all the opportunities compared to his white peers. Over time, it is not difficult to see how hard it is to navigate the social hierarchy if you were not born the right color.
i mean going into the experiment they know what its about. and the tests clearly show what its trying to test people on. you need to simulate a scenario for the partcipant where they don't know what they are being tested on, which allows for honest experiences/actions displayed by the participant.
why do I have to move to a more rich and expensive prodominently white neighborhood just to make it more diverse? I don't get that part.
I like nice people. If anyone appreciates my company enough to want to spend time with me, I couldn't care less about the color of their skin, or any other physical trait they might have.
As a society we're beginning to dangerously re-define bias as racism. Anyone's ignorance, inability, or mistake to not connect deeply to another person's experience is not racist. We can encourage and educate that it's in one's benefit to do so but we can't force or demand the thought police to act. Let's talk about respecting one another and take action to correct wrongs. The other stuff will come.
A very American centric test aimed at American biases and mentality, not sure if this would be even remotely a valid test anywhere else in the world.
i've never seen you guys flop this hard with your edits. where's the cohesion?
I think that saying race preferences in dating is racist is madness, you wouldnt say that a gay man is sexist. You love who you love, thats just how it is
Bias is part of the human condition, everyone has bias all you have to do is just recognize that when it comes to stuff where it may matter.
I feel like the statistics presented around minute 5 really are missing an important point: while white people show higher degree preference for white people, what is interesting to see is how much that tendency is similar between white and black, suggesting only part of it is causally linked to your ethnicity and most of it is "baseline" or "society wide" bias. Now that's actually interesting and surprising.
And Asians, prior generations bigotry for their childrens partner is ridiculous.
The bit with the cards was way too fast paced, you should’ve reduced the number of cuts and showed the stories in full
I feel pretty let down by this video. Racism is a hard topic to grapple with but I don't think I learned anything about how racist (or not racist) different communities or individuals generally are, how racism manifests itself and maybe how it has changed historically or geographically. I just don't think this video really moved the discussion forward or helped people to develop a holistic framework in which to understand race and racism at a micro and macro level. Maybe that's for later in the season...
Here in India we are biased against people from other states, castes, religion, skin colouration, ethnicity basically everyone that's not you.
based India. Thats a good thing
There is a kinda "test" i try to do within my mind whenever i judge, react, analyse a situation: i try to imagine the same situation with different pople filling the roles, and see if my judgementvremains the same...
If you are honestly asking yourself, "am I racist", you probably are not...
Not a true statement. You are just not being honest with yourself
I am, and proud of it.
Let's not get pedantic here:
Being a kid and saying that someone else's food smells funny is not racist. That is just a kid expressing that a smell is new and foreign to them
(As an adult - yes... That would be rude, and probably racist, because you have the vocabulary and experience to express your curriosity in a better way.)
Whats rude is them bringing their 3rd world slop around me.
There are way too many unnecessary cuts in this video. Just let me watch 2 min without cutting to an entirely different thing!
I am sorry, but that IAT test is quite garbage, extremely faulty in its logic
I know y’all have a time limit, but you really should have included the full stories when they asked about being embarrassed over something racist that you did or said around the 7 minute mark. Especially since right before that segment, you included someone’s comment that detailed interviews would be better at sussing out racial bias. It’s a lot easier to let yourself open up and figure out your own racial biases if you’re listening to and connecting with an anecdote from another person. Just like the video showed, we don’t respond that well to tests and ratings and computers and being put on the spot. It annoyed me while listening when y’all chopped up those stories that sounded interesting or important
Sadly, those that need to see this most, won't be watching this.
Definition is very important. As long as we aren't consistent on that, there is no way of discussing the topics constructively.
The definitions I use in the racism-debate:
- Discrimination: Categorising people based on certain characteristics (we do it all the time... schools, clubs, family, ... it's everywhere)
- Racism: Discriminating people based on race and believing your race is more valuable/better than the others.
- Antisemitism: Is discrimination based on religion, specifically related to jews, by believing your belief is more valuable than the jewish people.
- Stereotypes: Concepts of discrimination based on personal experiences (believing all tigers are dangerous.. is a stereotype about tigers)
- Bias: Unconscious acts that are heavily influenced by our personal stereotypes (it's normal te be a little nervous when you walk by a tiger)
We should keep in mind that bias and stereotypes are tools for survival in nature and society.
They helped us survive in the past and will in the future. What we need to do, is learn to work with it so emotional-bias can better match objective-truths.
Discrimination, stereotypes and bias are mainly about survival while racism and antisemitism are mainly based on "who is better?" emotionally.
It could be interesting to see how others define these words.
All that for a conclusion of platitudes? Pretty boring, and not nearly as challenging at it thinks it is, or needs to be.
I have implicit biases. I know that. I don't allow those biases to direct how I treat and interact with others because I KNOW it is a learned behavior.
If I catch myself thinking something biased about a person, I ask myself why.
Once you start with that, you acknowledge we are all f one way or another by how we were taught.
I'm Afro-Antillian, btw.
Just FYI, this is not 100% learned behavior. Social psychologists did experiments before with babies. White babies show similar racism behaviors when put in the same place with babies with color. So part of the racism is part of human beings.
We all have our biases, and maybe always will to a degree. But we can work on it, having friends of a different race helps immensely. Thats what personally has helped me.
Just judge people by their character not by the way they look and you will be fine
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So it started talking about bias, which everyone has and will always have, since they're not something you can control, by definition, so are we measuring them so that we can chance something we can't by definition?
Also, you said it yourself the test is unreliable and pointless, then why did you take it? Why did you waste so much time on that?
The questions in the card don't do any better either.
Look, I'm a black guy, I want equality too, but I don't understand how educational this is. You're basically saying "people are racist" like there's nothing they can't do about it.
All of the things you guys mentionrd as examples of racism are small issues humans have with one another in any other kind of way, any other kind of difference, race, sex, religion, or anything else.
I think you're confusing the difficulties we have dealing with one another on the account of our physical differences, which, as you said, are conditioned behavior, not really something we can easily change. We can manage it to a degree, but not change it. We have to learn how to deal with one another in a more understanding and productive manner.
Racism is hatred. Hatred toward people of other races. It's often a case of ignorance and intolerance, but it's mostly malice.
Mitchel McConnell is racist. He clearly hates black people and does whatever he can to make sure black people, as a whole, don't have any equality.
Pewdiepie is a normal person. He doesn't hate black people. He said something stupid, which we all do, no matter how hard we try. The only way to completely stop that is to prevent people from talking.
Get your priorities straight, please! Implicit bias is not really something you can change, racism is.
The problem with Vox is I feel overwhelmingly like I'm being marketed to, from it's glossy finish to it's hip topics I just can't get past it and the phenomenally beautiful journalists, I really wish there was more realism so I could take it seriously again.
I'd love to see Native Americans have a seat at the table on race related videos from the States. While this video was good, it was pretty much the same racial mixture I've gotten used to seeing on these kinds of videos. It's rough to watch a video on racism when your community is never featured, never given a voice.
Having prefrences doesnt make you racist. Being prejudiced or thinking they deserve less does.
I grew up in NYC moved to NC where my middle school was mostly white then moved back to NY and my high school was 90% black. I've been in both worlds yet I still have biases...
IMO, it’s human to have a bias to people like you. But the problem is when people treat other people different bc of how they are. I know how my bias is towards Hispanics and whites, and I’m going to work to get rid of them. Everybody needs to be treated the same, and every kind of hate is not good
Exposure, exposure, exposure. It's really hard to hate people you live with, work with, and love. And as long as there's segregation by race, those "others" remain other than you. At least, I think that's at the core of it. And if that segregation has advantages for you, then--unless you have a strong conscience--you probably will buy into the arguments for it, or at least, you're not going to fight too hard to change it. I agree with some of the comments here: the video is too scattered and doesn't stick to a tread. If it were an argumentative essay, I'd have to give it a low mark. It's really more like a movie trailer.
JUST TELL THEM NICELY that you're uncomfortable with their joke or when they're stereotyping certain races.
COMMUNICATION is the KEY !!!
unless you're dealing with a dork then whatever you say wont get through, leave them be. Until they're threaten you with violence, then you can RUN to the nearest police station.
2:00-2:03 when she closed the door on the puppy, i could only imagine the loneliness he might have felt in that moment after the door closed. you could just see him thinking as the door closes. dogs are such a gift mannn; anyway im about to finish the video lol
Just treat everyone equally irrespective of gender/sex/caste/race/beliefs/religion and help others understand this.
DONT USE HIGHLIGHTER IN AN OLD BOOK!!! I'm a librarian and that instance was torture! The rest of the article was very interesting.
Don't you think they use styled props for this? I mean, originals are expensive and production budgets might not be that large
Lol I was watching this next to my 4 year old and he got so mad about that too!! Started screaming about how books are not supposed to be written on... I totally agree
I was trying to think of a contributing statement to add the to conversation and then I heard, “You have to learn to pay attention to those signals and then actually change your behaviour” - Perfect final statement.
19:15 "I think I'm gonna stop being so guarded with my knowledge and be more willing to put it out there"
Fabiola had some of the most insightful remarks and this was when she was holding back.
This was very insightful. I personally feel that everyone has the capacity to be racist. There are certain stereotypical ideas we have all had about a certain group/type of people, we all at one point have thought, said, done or joked about something racist. The important thing is to be self aware and acknowledge when you're wrong and make sure to take the time to learn so you can be better.
This channel is just so interesting. I pray it will never turn into buzzfeed
Also can we take a second to appreciate them putting themselves out there like this.
I think you can't avoid bias. However, it's important to acknowledge your bias towards people you empathise with most. I don't hold it against a black person to be biased towards black people, because they can understand their day to day life better than I ever could. The important thing is to acknowledge your biases. It's okay to have biases.
"ook ook eek" can't really relate to that 🤣
@@brettalexander220 bruh
I don't think this approach is useful. Trying to find where the blame should be placed, debating whether individuals are racists or not, talking about how whites have had it better than non-whites, and telling people to reflect their own behaviors to try to individually "do their part" to end racism is just not going to lead to anything.
For some people, it's going to be counterproductive- this kind of blaming and guilt-tripping is going to make some people offended and angry because they feel attacked, and it leads to resentment and just negative feelings towards the whole situation (towards non-whites, towards talk about ending racism, towards everything associated with these issues).
For other people (the target audience), all that these kinds of things lead to is feeling guilty or angry, and confused. They'll take everything to heart and try to make individual changes in their life, but what those behaviors end up being will be inconsistent and unpredictable. Many people will just do things that may be a net negative rather than a positive.
For all people, this kind of approach just leads people to become even MORE race conscious and to constantly be thinking about how people differ based on race/etc. It leads to paranoia and brings out all of the cognitive biases (including what's possibly the worst one in this context- confirmation bias), which just serves to muddle everyone's thinking and stir up all kinds of emotions.
So I think that this kind of blaming, guilt-tripping, and extremely vague and individualistic approach doesn't work, because all it does is to promote emotional and biased thinking. A much better approach would be to talk about SPECIFIC problems and actions that need to be addressed, and not make it all about race (or gender, or sexual orientation, or or or...). We don't need to talk a bout these groups one by one and in isolation. We can talk about, for example, how to make the hiring process more fair and unbiased in ALL respects- by simply not asking about or redacting people's personal information, such as their age, name, and address. We can also do things like tell candidates that the interview will be informal, so they don't need to buy fancy clothes (which are too expensive for some, and employers can use to discriminate against people). There are countless other things that we can do to try to make sure everyone is being evaluated just on their abilities/skills rather than on their age, sex, gender, race, personality, what they happened to be wearing during the interview, etc. It's these kinds of SPECIFIC issues and solutions that lead to positive change and to a better society, not trying to blame or guilt people, stirring up emotions, and vague and ambiguous calls for reflection and change.
That’s a lot of words to say ‘you won’t stop me from being racist, I’m fucking stupid!!’
I see where you’re coming from but disagree to some extent. Most of the “specific” problems you mention developed as a result of overt or unconscious bias. Why are job candidates with whiter names more likely to be hired than candidates with non-white names? Because we all have some level of deeply held unconscious bias. And the whole thing with unconscious bias is that we don’t know it’s there. Talking about it openly and reflecting provides the opportunity for people to actively recognize and counter their own unconscious bias. For example a hiring manager can actively think about what biases they may have regarding candidate’s names and ensure this does not impact their decision making.
I don’t agree that this approach is all about blame, but I do think it’s useful to consider historical context. Currently, white households in the US have 10x the wealth on average compared to Black households. That sort of disparity was created by very deliberate historical actions and measures. And when we address it, we have to consider that fact.
When it comes to most controversial issues and stuff like that, I'd like to know the background and get information on the situation imo
I never knew about racism. Or even the difference of race when I was young. Social media is what introduced me to this. In some cases, it’s where I develop some racist jokes, as an Asian, i now try to live up to some of our stereotypes. And jokes about other races, which is so common everywhere. Sometimes I wonder if it is racist or there is a limit.
Such a great video!!
Maybe I missed something,
but if your bias score can change
from one day to the next, how
is it a reliable research tool?
And I don’t think interviews
would be effective because
the interviewee would edit
there responses in order to
not be perceived negatively
by the interviewer, I don’t think
there’s a measurable way to
accurately record biases.
Thank you for dong this project! Looking forward to watch the rest of series!
I find myself preferring to be around my own race because I don't want to accidentally say something racist and offend the other person, most likely because I grew up only around people of my own race. I think that even this is a problem but it's going to take a while to fix it.
It is a good topic but the jump cuts made things difficult to follow. Good content, thanks for covering this.
this was awesome, can't wait to see the rest of this season!
I need that try that test
Anyone know what song this is at 1:02? Feel like I've heard it somewhere.
I live in India. I was recently reading a novel set in London, and one of the small characters was a cleaning lady. My mind immediately imagined a hispanic middle-aged lady, because I have seen so many American shows portraying hispanic ladies as cleaners. That is so racist. I am not completely blaming American shows, but I did let myself get influenced by these shows. So these kinds of subconscious biases can easily slip into our minds due to exposure to certain things, even when you live on the other side of the world. And of course I have my own country's systemic biases as well which I am trying to be more aware of and get rid of. Looking forward to the next episodes, hopefully your teachings are applicable to my country as well.
I love the perspective given by the doctor in red.
Here in Belgium a lot of people have a bias against the north and south part of the country (Flanders and Wallonie). A lot of Flanders people have a massive bias against the Muslim community. I don't consider myself racist in any way, but somewhat bias. You've touched a nice talking point! Will be happy to see more like this
Are you related to Jan?
Some of these things aren’t even racism, it’s the intent behind your actions which determines if it is racist or not.
What about complexion? People in countries like India are biased towards the lighter shade of skin. Sometimes mothers want their daughter's skin to look "fairer". Can this be defined as racism as well?
Often the term "colorism" is used for such scenarios.
Good try on the editing, but a bit too hard to follow the stories.
“I’m more biased than I realize.”
We all need to be saying this.
I want to see the research that proves that this test isn't just testing reflexes. I've taken them before. You train your reflexes in a racist way (non-marginalized group good, marginalized group bad) and then flip the sides and expect that it means something more than a difficulty to adjust your reflexes.
I tried two tests, one starting with white good and the other starting with black good. Both tests told me I was biased against the second group that was shown, even though the previous test said the opposite. Take these tests with a grain of salt.
When a person can look and think of another person (male or female black or white) as there true friend. It will change. Things are the way they are because we think they are!
So, asian's are being targeted then. Great, good to know.
When I was growing up in Idaho, maybe 7 or 8 years old, there was only 2 black girls in my year, Selina and Desiree. I wanted desperately to be friends with them, but I have ADHD and aspergers, and I was very obnoxious and weird. I remember hoping they would like me because we were all somehow different from the other kids, but they didn't. In fact, (and this is just because I was annoying them, I'm aware) they were sometimes my meanest bullies.
I came to realize that Selina and Dezi were the coolest, most popular and confident girls in our class. The few black boys at my schools were sports stars, academic decathlon winners, or popular for other reasons that I didn't understand. For a long time, I was confused about the dueling nature of these kids being extremely popular and also enduring racism, and my social circle in my youth didn't include bpoc because I simply wasn't popular enough to hang out with them.
After leaving Idaho, I learned about tokenism, and that made sense, but my personal implicit bias now is one of intimidation. I grew up not thinking, but *knowing* that bpoc were better than me, and I, a fat white "special ed" girl who shaked her hands and cried at the fire bell, wasn't worthy to talk to them. I am terrified of black people. Thats because I associate them with popularity, coolness and rejection.
But thats racism too! Its stereotyping. Just because it seemed true when I was little, doesn't mean that there are no awkward black people. Black people can have adhd and aspergers too, and they can be weird and awkward and funny and unpopular and sad and lonely too. The black kids bullied me, sure, but so did the white kids. There just weren't any poc in the special ed class. Everyone can examine their biases and find ways to re-humanize the people we see as "other". Anyway, here's to maybe having a black friend someday!
Regarding Dr. Nilanjana Dasgupta, from Massachusetts (she's obviously Indian American)
I could tell from her surname that she is upper caste Hindu Begali Brahmin. Brahmims are 4% of Indian population and they are hugely over represented everywhere. They inflict caste persecution and perpetuate untouchability towards lower caste people. Just to get a picture, more than 50% supreme Court judges since independence have been Brahmins and our courts here has always been very pro caste privilege. Upper caste Brahims and rest other upper castes constitute all left right and centre spectrum, no one else has space, even the communist Party has zero representation of Dalits (lower caste, untouchable) . 95% marriages happen in same caste in India still upper caste would say "Oh caste is a thing of past". Even when they migrate to west they take their caste with them even second or third generation, practice it there. Say for example Mindy Kailing once tweeted, ''He's cute but different caste" And when these people go to west they talk about racism, brown representation and what not. It's the most hypocritical thing ever. They behave here as if caste doesn't exist. Yet caste is everywhere. Another picture I want to create about caste. More than 90% news media space both print and satellite is upper caste Hindu, and upper caste is only 15% of our population. More than 90% film character in India are upper caste. And the ones lower caste to ever get represented they have to have a movie made on them as some murder mystery or something. Like Mississippi burning. And the character would be played by light skinned upper caste...
I mean I can just go and on.. This hypocrisy of upper caste intellectuals in west just enrages me having to be subjected and facing and fighting against caste on daily basis, making through newspapers alive, and sound minded everyday
As an AA, constantly thinking about race is physically and mentally exhausting. It hinders you from thinking creatively and objectively. and it somewhat forces me to view all white people as racist. and I've been told that all white people are racist. so I don't know what to think anymore. I Just feel exhausted and super naive, as if any white person is going to scam me or hurt me bc of my race. I know these fears are irrational, however I also feel like I need to retain these fears for my own self preservation. Because I actually have seen real racism, and it's horrific. I've trusted white people and they've let me down. I think the challenge for me is, "did they do that because they are bad people or because they are white."? And not to make the two synonymous.
I also think that the black community and the white community are vastly different. They have more differences and nuances to our thinking then we realize. Black people do not follow the same society, class mannerisms as white people due to lack of access simply put. So it is difficult for us to rationalize why
Some of the things whites do are necessary and it is very easy for us to question the motives.for.example, It is difficult for us to be loyal to a corporation or fit into a middle class work environment when we have been subjected to fight for our survival. Transitioning from poverty, overt racism and overall poor working/living conditions is difficult and can often lead to resentment and insecurities that I feel are justified. And passive aggressiveness, lies, bigotry.by any white person or group of white people is seen as extremely threatening to our well being. Even though it may not be that way for white people.
I guess you could just say we are scared. But like passively so? More like we try to stay away from a lot of institutions in order to prevent the trauma that would ensue from constantly having to worry about how you are perceived. A caveat of this is I did not grow up this way, meaning thinking I was different. which gives me hope for the next generation. I'm an older gen z and a young millennial and I did not subscribe to these distinctions about race. I will start to absorb many different things and cultures even with our limited funds and resources. I think my parents wanted me to not think of myself as different. And perhaps about 1/3 of the time I don't feel different. It's when I face some aspects of society that I feel that way.
I think my only saving grace is to use the challenges that I've overcome in life to make myself a better person, be successful and hopefully help someone else.
Lots of interesting points.
Cleo reminds me of Winona Ryder.
They really look similar!
Great video and great participant talking about complex issues that we need to hear. But let's remember that implicit bias testing has pretty much no basis in science.
Could you do a similar video on gender roles? Because I feel that biases towards those are intertwined with racial bias.
Wish there were more races represented
I really hoped she would go back to the dog at the end of the episode. The poor dog is staying alone to this moment :(. I need closure dammit!
Really powerful and interesting! I second what many others have said about the editing style making it harder to follow along :/
What I find really interesting that there were several dozen colleges that had separate graduation ceremonies for black students in the recent past. That fact really gave me pause to consider just how much racism is there when you have some young black graduates choosing segregation at graduation time. Just one small example of things not being what some would have you believe.
When the question of, first discussion of race in the family was asked I had to stop and think about it. I'm 46 years old and I don't think there has ever really been a discussion of race in my larger family group. I have talked to my children about it, but I was never talked to about it because my family is extremely mixed in terms of race. We have a little of everything. I am white, and my mother is white, but one of my siblings is mixed, and all of my cousins are mixed, all of my siblings and cousins have had mixed children, my mother's partner of over 30 years is not white, his children are also mixed and in mixed race relationships. It was just never something that we talked about.
I know that my family consists of many different ethnicities, but they are just my family. I think it makes me more empathetic to people who are not my same ethnicity, because to me they aren't some black, or Asian, or middle Eastern person, they are just, my family, the same as all of the people of those races who are related to me.
Damn, Cleo was worried that as a white woman in this conversation she would be taking up space or be unwanted, what do you mean??
Yoooooooooo what’s the Vice guy doing on Vox?!?!?! Crossover episode!!!!!!!
Glad you guys chose such a lighthearted topic to start off season 2!!!
It wasn't expected but it was necessary!
Only criticism I have is yea the editing just give people more time to talk that's all 😃
The 3 questions asked by Anthony, I asked myself that last year and it's a work in progress but I can see the changes in my perspective.
This is a great dialog. If done with an open mind and heart, we can learn a lot about ourselves, identify opportunities to improve ourselves and help society. I don't see as positive for people to feel guilty for being somehow privileged by the current system, instead they should get involved in making it more equalitarian and join the voices against injustices.
I've been waiting for this season!!
First also love you guys Video from Vietnam 🇻🇳