These politicians don't know when to step aside. Reminds me of Ruth Bader Ginsburg not knowing when to bow out gracefully and hurting the country in the end by not stepping down
Not only politicians, and judges. It is quite common among singers, e.g. opera singers, that they continue to sing long after best before date but they can only they and their loved ones, and some confidants, decide when it is time as there is no official retirement age.
The moderators were ineffective in ensuring trump answered the questions.also,it was sad to see the decline of president Biden .His team failed him ,a change must happen.President Biden needs to step down ,with decorum and dignity .
The democrat party ran him, the people in every state overwhelmingly voted for him! You can’t just get rid of him for someone else. What about the voice of the people? What are you going to do with Kamala? The party has lost its way and is now in complete chaos.
Unjustly found guilty, but not yet convicted (to be strictly accurate). I hope the anticipated conviction will be reversed. Anyway, a President of the United States will not be in charge of you given you have moral agency. POTUS is head of State and in charge of the executive branch of the United States Government.
Dude you never watched the same debate I watched Trump answered every single question first he had to respond to Biden's lies did he answered every question you can see you're biased and got your head up your butt but you can't see
Sarah Longwell, the political strategist who produces "The Bullwark" makes a great case for Shapiro (PA) and Witner (Wisc.) She thinks they are popular in swing states. That would ease the Electoral College obstacle.
I am a Democrat. It was so bad I stopped watching and went to bed sick in my stomach. Joe needs to step down regardless of the chaos it creates. Let the party figure it out. Joe should have been discouraged from running in the first place, by Jill and his close advisors.
@@nookbandit I'm not American but pay for attention to US politics and what's going on there. What do you mean by this? 5 years ago in the debates Biden was a different man or he wouldn't have got so many votes, Americans don't vote for candidates in the state he is now. If by this you mean why you think that Biden and the Democrats didn't foresee this and put plans in place to bring in a successor I might agree, although telling a sitting president he's too old and is losing it and you'll only be a one team president just didn't happen, it can't. He didn't seem that bad even a year ago but some people of a certain age tend to age more quickly when they hit a certain age, you could say the same of Trump, in 2 years he could look like he was in that courtroom not too long ago, falling asleep and farting all the time. We just never know. I tuned in last night to see a coherent old man show some fight. After the first answer by Biden I turned off and went to bed. He should have been pulled from the debate. I think there's any coming back from this but I'm sure Biden is a proud man and I don't think he'll step aside and a convicted felon and maniac will be voted in as president, may well never leave. These are dangerous times.
@@mattpotter8725 politics aside they’ve been protecting and staging every chance he speaks, when the local news shows Biden at an event they never play the audio instead they have the reporters sum up what was said, during the past few weeks his own cabinet members went on a Biden support campaign saying behind closed doors is sharp and in control. Why they feel the need to do so when it’s clearly shown that he isn’t at full strength? Try watching the debate again with no sound and let your eyes judge. Either way last night showed that the US is clearly run by those behind the scenes and as a whole these 2 do not do the US justice. Also ask yourself how the ones that have protecting Biden all had stories about replacing him 2 minutes after the debate?
Name one. Homeless Crisis Gavin Newsom. Nobody likes her Harris. That is the depth of the bench.... that is it, the clintons killed off everyone else in the mid 1990s.
Sitting here in Sydney, Australia am so glad we have a parliamentary system where leaders of government and the opposition debate each other at question time every single day Parliament is sitting. You can see leaders under pressure and this really matters.
Lucinda I like that too! In the mid 1960s the public could go to the us senate and watch politicians debate one another over the issues! But after rfks 1968 murder the publics access to gov was restricted unless the restrictions been lifted? I like what ur talking about and sometimes catch uk alimentary debates!
Yep. Feels rather smug in the UK today as well. At least our candidates can string a sentence together, what a sorry state of affairs for everyone involved!
@@oldfogey4679That’s not the problem. You don’t have to be there in person. There’s this thing called television. What we don’t have in the USA are “Prime Minister’s Questions” (PMQ) - that’s what we need.
@@nizguy What do low income White households average in pretax income? Those same Whites that get the majority of food stamps assistance in this country?
@@nizguy What was the average pretax income for low-income Whites in the sample? They are the ones receiving the majority of food stamp assistance in the country. Trump made a point of only mentioning Blacks and Hispanics.
Biden is old. He was tired. But he's not a compulsive liar, he's not out of touch with the facts, and he still believes in America and the American people.
Im a Biden fan and i turned it off after 5 mins. That was painful to watch. I actually felt like Trump almost felt bad for Biden and took it easy on him, and Trump doesnt even have a soul.
@patland1762 talk to the DNC about that. They did everything they could t9 make sure Biden won the primary. Same way they screwed over Bernie in the past. The DNC doesn't let the people choose their candidate. They choose and then let us pretend like we are.
@josswoman4191 I didn't start watching until after it started. I heard Biden say the wrong numbers like 3x in a row. 500M...I mean Billion. 1000 trillionaires, I mean billionaires. And whatever else he fumbled on. Then heard him mess up where Trump said "I don't know what that last thing he said was, and I don't think he does either". That was a great line by Trump, and also felt like he could have said a lot more. I hate Trump with a passion, but I give props where they are due.
Americans focus too much on image and performance, what about honesty and character? Biden may be too old to be an effective president but the alternative is frightening 😱
My dad's 89, got COPD among various health conditions, can just about walk 100 yards, needs to have an eye kept on him as he has at least two forgetful senior moments a day... And he looks ten years younger than Joe Biden did last night. There's just five months left. The Democrats have to decide what's more important; protecting a nations fundamental democracy, or salving an incumbent president's pride. This is not the time for The Emperor's New Clothes.
Joe Biden has parkinsonism and initial dementia. Point. They are more common in the elderly, but thank goodness not all the elderly suffer from them. Joe Biden Have them.
I think we have to acknowledge that most Democrats just use the save Democracy thing as a promo line. They are more interested in maintaining power via pushing a brand. So their reality is completely distorted.
They say Biden is a decent man, that he would make his decisions based on what's best for the greater good. If he really is a decent man then he would step aside. He is too old, that's just a fact. He should be in retirement like everyone else his age and not doing one of the most stressful jobs in the world. The Democratic supporters deserve so much better
Fully agree. If he ever had a legacy, he will destroy it by refusing to see the truth. The democratic party and the country would be better off with someone else. By refusing to do so, he's coming off as incredibly selfish
@@FTFLCY I think he wants to continue, but he also railroaded himself. He picked a historic VP. Her popularity declined before his did. At the best moment to step aside (over a year ago), they realized he had a better shot than she did. He also knew, if he said he wasn't going to run for re-election, he could not then pass the legislation he needed to win his allies another term. Now if he steps down, his successor will face huge hurdles. They won't be tested or legitimized by state primaries. They'd have months instead of years to campaign. They'd probably have to be willing to run on his platform and largely with his coalition instead of fully forging their own. It's a real bind. So he's trying to salvage it. But he should see from the public's response in the coming days if passing the baton is the best he can do. If his debate performance looks like a fatal mistake for his campaign, I hope he steps aside for a younger successor, ASAP.
Here's the edited version: I've been saying all along that I'd rather vote for Biden, even on his deathbed, than for Trump, who is a pathological liar and has authoritarian tendencies. I'm voting blue across the board. In my opinion, Biden has been the most consequential President in terms of policy. I care more about that than optics.
Thank you both. I listened in my bed in the UK. Caught up with you later. I swing between very depressed and very frightened for the whole world. Might get pissed senseless and try to forget today.
TFG only has to win with enough people to beat Joe Biden. THAT is winning. You know the highest % the Nazi Party ever received before Hitler outlawed elections? 44%. Hitler had so effectively fragmented 1930’s Germany where that was enough to win. God help us.
Biden has peed all over the US by letting 10 million illegal “asylum seekers” into the country, including many who are displacing low income Americans in the workforce.
Biden didn't do well but is that a reason to report that trump is a blatant LIAR! That should be equally emphasized. Finally, you two are covering that!
@@Kodakcompactdisc--Years ago I dated a lawyer who told me they study acting. That way, they know how to influence a jury. I find Hakim so performative and his robotic hand signals make me want to scream. I can't stand him.
It was unforgivable for Team Biden to know that this was possible & go ahead with the debate. FFS, the future of Western democracy is on the line! Why not take a leaf from FDR who kept his frailties hidden as he was saving Western democracy but maintained his fireside chats, etc?
Both sides of the American parties don't appear to want democracy and seem to prefer being friends with dictatorships, authoritarian or totalitarian nations. They will not allow true democracy to flourish...the UK is going the same way.
this is day two and already Biden from today's speech is back to top of his game. sharp, funny, inspiring.. [Clinton, Bush, Obama all stank on first debate and won]. But today Trump just gave a speech about "The Late great hannibal lecter", "electirc boats' batteries are so heavy it sinks and electrocutes you or you get eaten by a shark". AND THEN HE TOPPED THAT: saying "electric planes ..you are flying, and the sun goes away and the plane goes down?" WTF. if Biden said that it would be 24hr news. Last week he said he'd scrap income tax and replace it with Tarriffs! NOT one solitary fortune 500 CEO is donating or even talking about Trump because they know he will destroy the economy during his 4 year revenge tour of every person who slieghted him. He says he'll be a "Dictator" c'mon America. Do you want Matt gaetz running Education? or marjory Taylor greene running the CIA? Ted Cruz at ICE or Don [sniff, sniff] Jnr controlling the DEA and all those siezed drugs? 40 of Trumps closest aides and secretaries refuse to endorse him and many endorse Biden. Melania wasn't even at the debate. what does that SAY?. He has replaced & copyrighted the national anthem at his rallies, will free the J6 hostages and deport 11 Million latino immigrants illegal or not. Using the Army. Last Time Trump bungled Covid and wrecked the economy. He wanted to nuke hurricane's FOUR TIMES. - but thankfully then his staff screamed no. and had to remind him no the NEXT 3 TIMES TOO! do you trust Lindsay Graham, or jim Jordan to stop him? each time? Biden is going no where. he will be strong from now on. The Dems have 600 + offices in swing states. GOP has none. its not just biden its the whole huge team of volunteers- Biden needs to reassure them, and he did that today SATURDAY. His crowd were like a trump rally. It was incredible and so was he. Trumps low energy rambling 'speech' to a lame, half empty rally was as bad as Biden was last night. I wish Biden had called trumps bluff and agreed to drug test. btw they both should take aderall if it helps. we have 16 weeks. Biden will run on his record which is remarkable. Trump will lie about his - which was catastrophic. we will see which the voters wish to see repeated. I am confident now Biden wins. Trump is unravelling daily if you follow closely what he says each day. meidastouchnetwork cover them both here daily.
What you just witnessed was planned and executed by the democrat party. They’ve been shielding the eventual nominee from scrutiny by committing elder abuse with Joe Biden. Win at all cost! You will just accept who they tell you to vote for. You should be proud!
The debate made me cry. I felt so very sorry for President Biden. I’m afraid, he looked like he was having a day out from the nursing home. I also cried because for the first time this election cycle, I thought…Trump is going to win 😔😢 Is there any way that another candidate can be put up as Democrat nominee? Not KH of course, but someone else?
With these thoughts, Trump will definitely win. What is the problem with America so obsess about how strong a man look? Is Biden able to do the job? Has he not done the job so far? He is able and he did.
I don’t feel sorry for Biden. His incompetence has resulted in the deaths of thousands of young people in Ukraine and Afghanistan. He has allowed ten million illegal immigrants to enter the country, with the result that several young women have been murdered.
Not really. I would like Newsom but I already see that the opposition is trying to present his performance in CA as a disaster, although it is a success, I live in CA. The same I didn't see anything disastrous in Biden's performance. He was limited in time and had to say many thing and had to prioritize one over another.
That's not true. We had record high number of people voted for Biden in 2020. Yes, in future we have candidates. Still, Biden is the most popular, and he is exactly what we need. He is moderate and can compromise pushing for bipartisan solutions.
your inference paints you as a racist shill. do you deny that black americans are more impacted by illegal immigration depressing wages, filling jobs, crowding schools, using government resources, and raising prices of cheap housing and transport?
Cheer up. When Trump is re-elected, inflation will decline, the Ukraine war will end, and we won’t have millions of people coming into the country illegally, taking jobs from Americans.
What a gorgeous, smart and dynamic duo that pair would make! And it was gross to hear Katty say Biden could harm the Dem. Brand. Ridiculous! Biden's record up to now was excellent.
You can't, it's to late, the dnc gets to install someone, they stole your right to vote right out from underneath you! They also are allowing someone to run this country now, that americans did not vote in. WAKE UP, that's 2 elections they took from you. They knew hoe couldn't do it, he still can't, but u fell for it and missed it because you were to busy hating trump. That is exactly how this admin is, and you let em do it.
I am not black, but saying that imigrants are going to take black jobs is from my perspective is a put down. I remember as a young woman job hunting, I was often told why do I want to go out to work and take a job from a man that needs to support his family. As a woman if there was a management job, I would have to help train a man less qualified than me because they did not want to promote a woman into a management position. From my own personal experiences, I felt like Trumps remarks were a throwback to that kind of attitude.
I saw Biden walk on stage, and I knew it. (I watched it in my bed at 4 in the middle of the night - I live in The Netherlands .15 secends into his answer on the first question I thought: oh my God! I don't blame Joe Biden. I blame his staff and his wife. They Knew! They have done this to him. The only way to save democratie now for Biden is to step aside. And historie will remember him as one of de best.
I will never listen too someone who at one point, was a cheerleader for Trump !! And the Mooch couldn't say enough good things about Trump !! That alone,proves he makes bad life choices!!
What about all the lies Biden told. Ill just leave you with one example: Biden lied about Trump's administration having the highest debt in history, when actually Biden's admin does. You can easily verify this through the government's treasury fiscal data site, which reports debt by fiscal year. fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/historical-debt-outstanding/historical-debt-outstanding
Any normal politician would have easily beaten Trump tonight. For example, think what a Governor Newsom would have done--he would have mopped the floor with Trump. But Biden looked old, tired and pale.
I have a degree in Rhetoric and have some understanding of persuasion. In order to persuade the speaker's ethos...his or her traits..determine whether the audience will accept the arguments of the speaker. Joe simply looked and sounded feeble and confused. Trump, while being obviously insane and a liar, was coherent in his lying. Many Americans are not critical thinkers and will lean towards Trump. I think this is a disaster for America.
In the UK, Corbyn did not oppose Brexit and so effectively left the conservatives unopposed. Biden may be responsible for giving Trump a second term, by continuing when seen as becoming too old and certainly too old to stay in office another 4.5 years. Last night may be a one-off, but it shows the world that there is a severe risk that Biden cannot be sure to remain fit enough to complete a second term .
Yeah I'm with you, all for more high inflation and putting America last, sending trillions and trillions of our tax dollars going over sea's and not taking care of American needs... Oh and yes let's not forget about the open borders and now they are finding ISIS affiliates crossing over into our country... Learn facts before cheerleading your vote... Robert F Kennedy Jr. Is the best logical choice right now...
The Mooch is miles ahead of our usual commentators. Yes, America rose to the level required in 1944. And in 1945 and 1950 and 1952... and... There were adults in the room, urgency in the air. I don't know how Biden got to this point. And how no one worked this out earlier. He had to retire after 2021... I give you a better America... I'm going fishing. Thank you Joe. Instead, this whole inertia thing... all these old leaders, old ideas. How irresponsible is it to run Biden? Bad enough they went with Hillary and then Biden over Bernie... but this?
It was a really sad watch. I'm not even from the US but that was frightening as someone from a Western country. If Democrats don't replace Biden, Trump will easily win.
The other frightening thing is that if Trump wins this time, his mate Farage will be on the rise in the UK. There's a well-known saying: "When the U.S. sneezes Britain catches a cold." But when the U.S. has got pneumonia it's terrifying for the wider world.
Americans are smarter than Mooch is giving them credit for. After the debate they interviewed 12 undecided voters in Michigan: 6 were more inclined towards Biden, 5 towards Trump and 1 unsure. And this was with Trump at his very best and Biden at his very worst.
Sad night for America. Please, no more debates between these two. Hard to watch Biden, & Trump lied all night.Just let the people vote in November. Let this be a lesson to both parties. Neither should be the candidates to the greatest country in the world.
Comparing Biden to only Biden himself, he was awful. I expected him to have a good debate. If he really was sick, he can debate successfully Sept 10 and he has to go out and speak with the people a helluva lot between now & then. If he was not sick, if that's actually merely him having a bad night, it's too risky, he has to step aside. Anybody should have been able to wipe the floor with trump
People like Clyburn have a lot to answer for. He went with Biden over Bernie... and now he is hanging in there with Biden, presumably, to the end. Biden is done. We all saw it, see it. The whole senior leadership thing is done. Clyburn... from a state that will never elect a Democrat, and people listened to him. Where is the sense here?
@@teresacox682 no need to dream, history has already proven how much people disliked tRump as president & they showed up in 2020 when 81+ million people voted against him...
I really want to believe that but it's hard to see how that happens now. You're on the verge of full on facism and you're asking people to accept that the only alternative is Weekend At Bernie's
@@pauljohnson1664 Says lots about you to describe a comment like that as far left, lmao. I'm not an American, but I'd still vote for Biden because I'd vote for the guy who isn't going to destroy the democratic state like Trump will. , even if he's past it. If you vote for Trump, you vote for a step toward an authoritarian dictatorship, that much appears true. If I were you, I'd be more focused on the problems presented by the far right.
@@Kodakcompactdisc no amount of spin will change the damage President Biden did with that performance. There are other capable candidates who actually have some vim and vigor. If The President values his country more than control, he will consider drawing his career to a close. I like him and he has done an excellent job. In the end we all have our day.
Is it a debate when one person is either dodging the questions and/or lying? Anthony, give the American people some credit to see through those lies. Joe had a bad night but on trump's best night he's still a threat to the American people.
Swing state voter here. I voted for Biden, will not do it again. I have never nor would ever vote for Trump. Disasters lie ahead no matter who wins. First time I'm not voting in 40 years, unless one of the parties replace their nominee.
@@PoliticsinShorts91 He was an appeaser. Just like Chamberlain there were no wars when he was in too. Came later, he'd set the conditions for war to be more likely. Obama and Trump both failed in this front.
@@theonlycaulfield but thats the secret. nobody really can, not in 1 minute. You cant take apart three new lies ad hoc on the fly every three minutes, its exhausting and exasperating.. It has to be shoved down Trmp's throat now, when we have time to digest it. Every single line should become a campaign ad. Biden will just have to go out now and get out in public, when his virus clears, and demonstrate he is capable. If he steps down, he will do so for the good of the country.
I work with people who have schizophrenia. There is one really nice guy who speaks in tangents and I always try to follow his train of thought. I saw that look on Biden’s face throughout the debate. Sad. They over-prepared him to deal with a “normal” person.
Great! Vote BLUE and have more Higher Taxes, High Food Costs, More Crime, More WARS and have all those 2 Million Migrants DEPLETE the Social Security Fund as Biden gives them free money without them putting anything into it, so when YOU go to collect, there won't be anything left in the Fund when you retire. Vote BLUE and be the Fool.
Yes fact-check Trump are you going to find he told the truth every time fact check lion joke and you going to find out he lied most of the time who's in the right mind that would vote anything Democrat
A Prostitute shapes your opinions? Vote BLUE and have more Higher Taxes, High Food Costs, More Crime, More WARS and have all those 2 Million Migrants DEPLETE the Social Security Fund as Biden gives them free money without them putting anything into it, so when YOU go to collect, there won't be anything left in the Fund when you retire. Vote BLUE and be the Fool.
That's a really doubtful proposition. Newsome might look like a plausible alternative until you start peeling back the onion. One, Newsom has never held or run for any sort of office outside the State of California. A state where the Democrats have a supermajority and thus free reign over all aspects of policy, some of which have been okay and some of which have been pretty disastrous. Two, California doesn't look, from a demographic point of view, remotely like the rest of the USA. So, policies which might have traction there because of the composition of the electorate, are non-starters in a lot of other places. Three, you really need to examine Newsom's likeability factor amongst Independents, moderate Republicans, and working class persons before positing him as a plausible candidate. I would submit that as a guy coming from a privileged background, with his slicked back hair and $5000 suits, there's a wide disconnect between Newsom and these voting blocs. Lastly, Newsom is the governor of a state that gets constantly panned by national media for its intrusive policies, constant drain of people and industries, massive taxing of the populace, and ingrained red tape in government. Those are just the facts on the ground and make him, to me, unelectable. If the Democrats want to win, they need to replace Biden with someone like Biden, a moderate Democrat, if there's one remaining. Going the progressive route with someone like Newsome will end in a disaster ala George McGovern in 1972.
Disagree w/Anthony! Convicted felon & rapist is being sentenced on July 11. Gavin’s time is 2028. We cannot change horses now & that would be a disaster. Former President Obama had a disastrous first debate & managed two terms! Get a grip!! Dana Bash & Jake Tapper need to be fired. Joe Biden should refuse to debate that liar. Why are the newspapers NOT asking for convicted felon to step down? Shows what messed up times we are in. Biden looks like that because he is opposite a lying convicted felon & propagandist who spewed lies. Vote for Joe Biden & turn this ship around!
Biden was blinded by his Hated for Trump in this debate ... But don't underestimate Biden , he will come back strong in the next few months , both at the Democratic convention and importantly at the Sept debate ...!!!
Did you know trump is the only president in history who's net worth dropped during his presidency and he donates his salary and the only reason he was ever indicted is because he went against crooked Brandon, would you do something if it lost you money i don't think so ... hes doing it because he cares about America.
Great! Vote BLUE and have more Higher Taxes, High Food Costs, More Crime, More WARS and have all those 2 Million Migrants DEPLETE the Social Security Fund as Biden gives them free money without them putting anything into it, so when YOU go to collect, there won't be anything left in the Fund when you retire. Vote BLUE and be the Fool.
Anybody replacing Joe has to have some name recognition. There just aren't that many Dems who are on the same level of name recognition as Joe that all Dem politicians can get behind.
I can tell you who lost…America
😢😢
Absolutely ..
Man, oh man. Excellent point!
Agree.
Unless Newsom steps up and ends this trumpism stupidity once and for all!
These politicians don't know when to step aside. Reminds me of Ruth Bader Ginsburg not knowing when to bow out gracefully
and hurting the country in the end by not stepping down
Exactly
That’s what bill Maher says and he’s probably right. Rasky 2024
Trump isn't a politician!!!
Not only politicians, and judges. It is quite common among singers, e.g. opera singers, that they continue to sing long after best before date but they can only they and their loved ones, and some confidants, decide when it is time as there is no official retirement age.
@@rainyh-jay2414no Donald 🤧 😢 😿 😿 sniffy 💩 💩 💩 💩 poopypants Trump isn’t a politician he is a businessman 🕴️ who owns Trump tower 0:03
The moderators were ineffective in ensuring trump answered the questions.also,it was sad to see the decline of president Biden .His team failed him ,a change must happen.President Biden needs to step down ,with decorum and dignity .
The democrat party ran him, the people in every state overwhelmingly voted for him! You can’t just get rid of him for someone else. What about the voice of the people? What are you going to do with Kamala? The party has lost its way and is now in complete chaos.
@@MrAlan1906 The thing is…..Kamala Harris is just not that likable. If she were the nominee, Trump would win for sure.
Brandon and his entire family has never had any dignity to lose.
@@rafaeloliva6425 And the other side refused to concede even though they lost in 2020. That’s not being dignified.
UA-cam, all I said was the other side refused to concede even though they lost in 2020. That’s now a historical FACT.
Project 2025. I will never vote for Trump
It won't matter!!!
Trump 2024
Joe had a bad debate but I am not voting for a convicted felon to be in charge of myself or my love one's.
But 90 million will.
trump hasn't even had the trials that will prove him a traitor and ineligible to run. Oh, but his friends helped him delay those.
One of the few people making a very valid point. Thank you.
@@stephenhill545bet
Unjustly found guilty, but not yet convicted (to be strictly accurate). I hope the anticipated conviction will be reversed. Anyway, a President of the United States will not be in charge of you given you have moral agency. POTUS is head of State and in charge of the executive branch of the United States Government.
Trump never answered a question
Possibly, but in not answering any, he actually answered them all (and way better than Joe). Biden is toast!
Dude you never watched the same debate I watched Trump answered every single question first he had to respond to Biden's lies did he answered every question you can see you're biased and got your head up your butt but you can't see
What did he not answer?
That's his whole point--he never does.
He doesn't have to follow protical, rules, mores, or laws. He never has. Never will.
He does whatever he wants.
So? He's done it for 8 yrs. It's corpse Biden's job to FACT CHECK TRUMP since Bash and Tapper sold out america with the new right center CNN.
I have NO idea why Gavin isn’t the nominee. He’d DESTROY Trump!!!!
Jamie Raskin
Sarah Longwell, the political strategist who produces "The Bullwark" makes a great case for Shapiro (PA) and Witner (Wisc.) She thinks they are popular in swing states. That would ease the Electoral College obstacle.
But if you read comments here about him he is not that popular.
He would also turn the entire country into California. Would that be a good thing?
Slimmy Gavin governance record is just flat out indefensible.
But, dream on.
I agree with Anthony. Joe broke our hearts.
I am a Democrat. It was so bad I stopped watching and went to bed sick in my stomach. Joe needs to step down regardless of the chaos it creates. Let the party figure it out. Joe should have been discouraged from running in the first place, by Jill and his close advisors.
Me too.
Why all of a sudden do you realize what your eyes have been seeing for 5 years?
100%
@@nookbandit I'm not American but pay for attention to US politics and what's going on there. What do you mean by this? 5 years ago in the debates Biden was a different man or he wouldn't have got so many votes, Americans don't vote for candidates in the state he is now.
If by this you mean why you think that Biden and the Democrats didn't foresee this and put plans in place to bring in a successor I might agree, although telling a sitting president he's too old and is losing it and you'll only be a one team president just didn't happen, it can't. He didn't seem that bad even a year ago but some people of a certain age tend to age more quickly when they hit a certain age, you could say the same of Trump, in 2 years he could look like he was in that courtroom not too long ago, falling asleep and farting all the time. We just never know.
I tuned in last night to see a coherent old man show some fight. After the first answer by Biden I turned off and went to bed. He should have been pulled from the debate. I think there's any coming back from this but I'm sure Biden is a proud man and I don't think he'll step aside and a convicted felon and maniac will be voted in as president, may well never leave. These are dangerous times.
@@mattpotter8725 politics aside they’ve been protecting and staging every chance he speaks, when the local news shows Biden at an event they never play the audio instead they have the reporters sum up what was said, during the past few weeks his own cabinet members went on a Biden support campaign saying behind closed doors is sharp and in control. Why they feel the need to do so when it’s clearly shown that he isn’t at full strength? Try watching the debate again with no sound and let your eyes judge. Either way last night showed that the US is clearly run by those behind the scenes and as a whole these 2 do not do the US justice. Also ask yourself how the ones that have protecting Biden all had stories about replacing him 2 minutes after the debate?
Oh fuck we a fucking fucked.
Yep.
Agreed
It doesn't look good. Smh
Abso fucking lutely
With a ragman’s trumpet 😢
It’s terrifying! A younger candidate would destroy Trump
Name one.
Homeless Crisis Gavin Newsom.
Nobody likes her Harris.
That is the depth of the bench.... that is it, the clintons killed off everyone else in the mid 1990s.
Biden needs to gtfo and pass the baton to Newsom. We need an effective communicator.
Thank you sir, but it's time to bow out.
Thanks Joe ask Jamie Raskin to step in
I’m concerned because Biden looked extremely frail during the debate.
He may have practised too much.
The man is 81 years old. How we don't have another prospect to run for that office is beyond me. It's ridiculous really.
It seemed like he had a cold and lost his voice to me.
Yea, because he is!
Joe is frail. Wake up
Sitting here in Sydney, Australia am so glad we have a parliamentary system where leaders of government and the opposition debate each other at question time every single day Parliament is sitting. You can see leaders under pressure and this really matters.
Lucinda I like that too! In the mid 1960s the public could go to the us senate and watch politicians debate one another over the issues! But after rfks 1968 murder the publics access to gov was restricted unless the restrictions been lifted? I like what ur talking about and sometimes catch uk alimentary debates!
Yep. Feels rather smug in the UK today as well. At least our candidates can string a sentence together, what a sorry state of affairs for everyone involved!
I agree. As an American I have always been impressed watching the UK’s prime minister’s questions. I wish we had something like this in the USA.
@@oldfogey4679That’s not the problem. You don’t have to be there in person. There’s this thing called television. What we don’t have in the USA are “Prime Minister’s Questions” (PMQ) - that’s what we need.
No Katty, as a black person, "black jobs" does not resonate with me. It's an insult to all the black people I know.
And if Biden was clever he could have picked up on that, but he didn't even mention that unemployment among black Americans was at a multi decade low.
Thank you! What the hell does "Black Jobs" have that would endear itself to any black person?
Low-income Black households in the sample averaged $6,342 in pretax income,
@@nizguy What do low income White households average in pretax income? Those same Whites that get the majority of food stamps assistance in this country?
@@nizguy What was the average pretax income for low-income Whites in the sample? They are the ones receiving the majority of food stamp assistance in the country. Trump made a point of only mentioning Blacks and Hispanics.
Biden looked and sounded horrible. This debate was do or die Biden utterly failed
You’re right and I love Joe. Rasky 2024
Biden is old. He was tired. But he's not a compulsive liar, he's not out of touch with the facts, and he still believes in America and the American people.
If Biden win 15 trillion national debt, Increased into 30 trillion. If Trump win 15 trillion national debt gone into 5 trillion dollars!! 😅
I have Joe's Back he has ours!
Fck Yeah!!!
@@WilvenAtiong
I think that’s called “delusion.”
@@WilvenAtiongyou doesn't seem to be aware but tRump added 8 trillion dollars to the debt, the largest increase by any President
Im a Biden fan and i turned it off after 5 mins. That was painful to watch. I actually felt like Trump almost felt bad for Biden and took it easy on him, and Trump doesnt even have a soul.
Trump has never felt bad about anyone. But the bottom line is we need a new candidate or trump wins.
@patland1762 talk to the DNC about that. They did everything they could t9 make sure Biden won the primary. Same way they screwed over Bernie in the past. The DNC doesn't let the people choose their candidate. They choose and then let us pretend like we are.
You got that after 5 minutes? Sounds like bullshit since that would have been with each of them speaking ONCE.
That's your perception because Trump would never hold back. Someone who wants to seek revenge does not.
@josswoman4191 I didn't start watching until after it started. I heard Biden say the wrong numbers like 3x in a row. 500M...I mean Billion. 1000 trillionaires, I mean billionaires. And whatever else he fumbled on. Then heard him mess up where Trump said "I don't know what that last thing he said was, and I don't think he does either". That was a great line by Trump, and also felt like he could have said a lot more. I hate Trump with a passion, but I give props where they are due.
Most of the electorate think trump is vile, they just want someone to vote for
He is.
Americans focus too much on image and performance, what about honesty and character? Biden may be too old to be an effective president but the alternative is frightening 😱
way too much and yes Mr. T. is very frightening. Greetings from Sweden.
Sadly these days appearance is everything. Trump appeared confident in his lies and Biden looked like his dad.
My dad's 89, got COPD among various health conditions, can just about walk 100 yards, needs to have an eye kept on him as he has at least two forgetful senior moments a day... And he looks ten years younger than Joe Biden did last night. There's just five months left. The Democrats have to decide what's more important; protecting a nations fundamental democracy, or salving an incumbent president's pride. This is not the time for The Emperor's New Clothes.
Joe Biden has parkinsonism and initial dementia. Point.
They are more common in the elderly, but thank goodness not all the elderly suffer from them. Joe Biden Have them.
I think we have to acknowledge that most Democrats just use the save Democracy thing as a promo line. They are more interested in maintaining power via pushing a brand. So their reality is completely distorted.
Sorry - Joe had a bad day, but look at his schedule this last month. I would have had a cold and been at home sleeping it all off.
My father is 92 years old.
Waaay sharper than Joe Biden.
And was shocked watching the debate.
Rasky 2024
They say Biden is a decent man, that he would make his decisions based on what's best for the greater good. If he really is a decent man then he would step aside. He is too old, that's just a fact. He should be in retirement like everyone else his age and not doing one of the most stressful jobs in the world. The Democratic supporters deserve so much better
Couldn't agree more. The fact he actually thinks he's capable causes me real doubt about his motives. He has to be in La La Land.
Fully agree. If he ever had a legacy, he will destroy it by refusing to see the truth. The democratic party and the country would be better off with someone else. By refusing to do so, he's coming off as incredibly selfish
Actually believing a career slimeball politician like Biden is a decent man is frightening.
See Biden the next day at the North Carolina rally.
@@FTFLCY I think he wants to continue, but he also railroaded himself. He picked a historic VP. Her popularity declined before his did. At the best moment to step aside (over a year ago), they realized he had a better shot than she did.
He also knew, if he said he wasn't going to run for re-election, he could not then pass the legislation he needed to win his allies another term. Now if he steps down, his successor will face huge hurdles. They won't be tested or legitimized by state primaries. They'd have months instead of years to campaign. They'd probably have to be willing to run on his platform and largely with his coalition instead of fully forging their own.
It's a real bind. So he's trying to salvage it. But he should see from the public's response in the coming days if passing the baton is the best he can do. If his debate performance looks like a fatal mistake for his campaign, I hope he steps aside for a younger successor, ASAP.
I'm so sad. Biden needed to be strong and it completely fell apart. 😢
Watch his rally in NC today.
He’s been protected his entire presidency hence has been on vacation nearly 50% of the time and no press conferences
Definitely not President material
Rasky 2024
Here's the edited version:
I've been saying all along that I'd rather vote for Biden, even on his deathbed, than for Trump, who is a pathological liar and has authoritarian tendencies. I'm voting blue across the board. In my opinion, Biden has been the most consequential President in terms of policy. I care more about that than optics.
Thank you both. I listened in my bed in the UK. Caught up with you later. I swing between very depressed and very frightened for the whole world.
Might get pissed senseless and try to forget today.
Trump spent the whole debate PISSING all over the US. That's winning?
no just fjb's America... as a vet. I agree. it's embarrassing.
Unfortunately given Biden's fail, yes.
Yep! ...America is a Urinal Thanks to Biden.
TFG only has to win with enough people to beat Joe Biden. THAT is winning.
You know the highest % the Nazi Party ever received before Hitler outlawed elections? 44%. Hitler had so effectively fragmented 1930’s Germany where that was enough to win.
God help us.
Biden has peed all over the US by letting 10 million illegal “asylum seekers” into the country, including many who are displacing low income Americans in the workforce.
Trump refused to answer several questions just wanting to go after Biden's last answer
Biden didn't do well but is that a reason to report that trump is a blatant LIAR! That should be equally emphasized. Finally, you two are covering that!
The right to REPLY
As he should, because they were incorrect answers.
He called him an allay cat!! New nick name😂
@@AKE-rw2lywhat about obligation to answer? He wants only rights and not obligations?
What a disgrace that a democracy has been reduced to markets and televised preening.
Why was there no fact checking???
The candidates were supposed be the fact-checkers I believe.
The candidates should be calling out the lies.
Trumps team would never agree to fact checking
@@robertwilliamson9576Says who?
Facts are irrelevant in politics, it's frightening that you don't understand this. What is relevant is that Biden looked 3 Tuesdays short of a corpse.
How can anyone debate against trump who LIED THE ENTIRE TIME???!
He lied more than 90 % of the time
No one should be unprepared for Trump lying,it's predictable,and how to deal with it should be easy.
No Biden lie all night wake up
Someone that is alert and has his faculties together can debate Trump and call him out on his BS anytime of the day. It was sad to see this debate.
And Biden didn't???
Pete Buttigieg -- even more than Newsom -- would have wiped the floor with Trump.
Jamie Raskin
@@Kodakcompactdisc --Raskin, Katie Porter, Jared Moskowitz, etc.
@@siouxrose7766 yes or hakim jefferies
@@Kodakcompactdisc--Years ago I dated a lawyer who told me they study acting. That way, they know how to influence a jury. I find Hakim so performative and his robotic hand signals make me want to scream. I can't stand him.
If someone chooses a Felon over a decent man, despite his age, we are lost as a country.😢
It was unforgivable for Team Biden to know that this was possible & go ahead with the debate. FFS, the future of Western democracy is on the line! Why not take a leaf from FDR who kept his frailties hidden as he was saving Western democracy but maintained his fireside chats, etc?
Not a physical frailty, so not evident to him that anything is wrong. It's a mental thing. Terrible beyond belief. It is what it is.
Both sides of the American parties don't appear to want democracy and seem to prefer being friends with dictatorships, authoritarian or totalitarian nations. They will not allow true democracy to flourish...the UK is going the same way.
@@gameburn178it was brutal and I like Joe
this is day two and already Biden from today's speech is back to top of his game. sharp, funny, inspiring.. [Clinton, Bush, Obama all stank on first debate and won].
But today Trump just gave a speech about "The Late great hannibal lecter", "electirc boats' batteries are so heavy it sinks and electrocutes you or you get eaten by a shark". AND THEN HE TOPPED THAT: saying "electric planes ..you are flying, and the sun goes away and the plane goes down?" WTF. if Biden said that it would be 24hr news.
Last week he said he'd scrap income tax and replace it with Tarriffs! NOT one solitary fortune 500 CEO is donating or even talking about Trump because they know he will destroy the economy during his 4 year revenge tour of every person who slieghted him. He says he'll be a "Dictator" c'mon America.
Do you want Matt gaetz running Education? or marjory Taylor greene running the CIA? Ted Cruz at ICE or Don [sniff, sniff] Jnr controlling the DEA and all those siezed drugs?
40 of Trumps closest aides and secretaries refuse to endorse him and many endorse Biden.
Melania wasn't even at the debate. what does that SAY?.
He has replaced & copyrighted the national anthem at his rallies,
will free the J6 hostages
and deport 11 Million latino immigrants illegal or not. Using the Army.
Last Time Trump bungled Covid and wrecked the economy. He wanted to nuke hurricane's FOUR TIMES. - but thankfully then his staff screamed no. and had to remind him no the NEXT 3 TIMES TOO! do you trust Lindsay Graham, or jim Jordan to stop him? each time?
Biden is going no where. he will be strong from now on. The Dems have 600 + offices in swing states. GOP has none. its not just biden its the whole huge team of volunteers- Biden needs to reassure them, and he did that today SATURDAY. His crowd were like a trump rally. It was incredible and so was he.
Trumps low energy rambling 'speech' to a lame, half empty rally was as bad as Biden was last night. I wish Biden had called trumps bluff and agreed to drug test. btw they both should take aderall if it helps.
we have 16 weeks. Biden will run on his record which is remarkable. Trump will lie about his - which was catastrophic. we will see which the voters wish to see repeated. I am confident now Biden wins. Trump is unravelling daily if you follow closely what he says each day. meidastouchnetwork cover them both here daily.
What you just witnessed was planned and executed by the democrat party. They’ve been shielding the eventual nominee from scrutiny by committing elder abuse with Joe Biden. Win at all cost! You will just accept who they tell you to vote for. You should be proud!
The debate made me cry. I felt so very sorry for President Biden. I’m afraid, he looked like he was having a day out from the nursing home. I also cried because for the first time this election cycle, I thought…Trump is going to win 😔😢
Is there any way that another candidate can be put up as Democrat nominee? Not KH of course, but someone else?
I felt the same. I'm devastated 😞
I don't feel even slightly sorry for Biden. It was his duty to get out before this happened.
With these thoughts, Trump will definitely win. What is the problem with America so obsess about how strong a man look? Is Biden able to do the job? Has he not done the job so far? He is able and he did.
Know how you feel. I felt sick .
I don’t feel sorry for Biden. His incompetence has resulted in the deaths of thousands of young people in Ukraine and Afghanistan. He has allowed ten million illegal immigrants to enter the country, with the result that several young women have been murdered.
70% of Americans don't want to vote for either candidate. So a younger articulate, coherent candidate would win in a landslide!!!
Not really. I would like Newsom but I already see that the opposition is trying to present his performance in CA as a disaster, although it is a success, I live in CA. The same I didn't see anything disastrous in Biden's performance. He was limited in time and had to say many thing and had to prioritize one over another.
RFK Jr.
That's not true. We had record high number of people voted for Biden in 2020. Yes, in future we have candidates. Still, Biden is the most popular, and he is exactly what we need. He is moderate and can compromise pushing for bipartisan solutions.
Jamie Raskin
You are probably right there
How is it that "black jobs" is not offensive to enough people to be the real takeaway from this debate.
your inference paints you as a racist shill. do you deny that black americans are more impacted by illegal immigration depressing wages, filling jobs, crowding schools, using government resources, and raising prices of cheap housing and transport?
how frightening this is for the rest of the world. surely there are better candidates.
Sadly it is true, Joe Biden did not win tonight. It was unbearable for me to see the debate up to the end. I could not take it.
Debates mean nothing. Biden is still the best choice. He will win! 🇺🇸
@@rebelliousbrands3253😂😂😂😂ok
Cheer up. When Trump is re-elected, inflation will decline, the Ukraine war will end, and we won’t have millions of people coming into the country illegally, taking jobs from Americans.
I was cringing watching it. Rasky 2024
Either Gavin Newsom or Jasmine Crockett should put an end to this MAGA bs!!!!!
What a gorgeous, smart and dynamic duo that pair would make!
And it was gross to hear Katty say Biden could harm the Dem. Brand. Ridiculous! Biden's record up to now was excellent.
Find a new candidate. Fast. Get it together dems. Trump is an existential threat to our country.
And to the democratic world!
Agree 100%. Whitmer/Buttigieg 2024.
You can't, it's to late, the dnc gets to install someone, they stole your right to vote right out from underneath you! They also are allowing someone to run this country now, that americans did not vote in. WAKE UP, that's 2 elections they took from you. They knew hoe couldn't do it, he still can't, but u fell for it and missed it because you were to busy hating trump. That is exactly how this admin is, and you let em do it.
No he’s not.
@@FortunateXpatJamie Raskin
I'd vote for Joe in a coma over Trump, but Biden looked awful. He needs replacement.
Ha! Me toooooo!!!
The Biden cabinet, House Democrats & Senate Democrats have got your back.
Don’t fret so much.
@@futureglobal7258I hope you are right
You want a privy council. Not a president..
It's simple, you cut your losses .
You can't roll out Biden and make him dynamic and credible. Old age is brutal.😢
I am not black, but saying that imigrants are going to take black jobs is from my perspective is a put down. I remember as a young woman job hunting, I was often told why do I want to go out to work and take a job from a man that needs to support his family. As a woman if there was a management job, I would have to help train a man less qualified than me because they did not want to promote a woman into a management position. From my own personal experiences, I felt like Trumps remarks were a throwback to that kind of attitude.
Biden lost the optics battle, but he destroyed Trump on the points that mattered. Trump lied throughout the debate and made zero points of substance.
Most of the American public vote on image .
@@770WT wrong. its more tribal.
Call Gavin Newsom up
I saw Biden walk on stage, and I knew it. (I watched it in my bed at 4 in the middle of the night - I live in The Netherlands .15 secends into his answer on the first question I thought: oh my God! I don't blame Joe Biden. I blame his staff and his wife. They Knew! They have done this to him. The only way to save democratie now for Biden is to step aside. And historie will remember him as one of de best.
Yes and I love Joe. Jamie Raskin is the man for the job.
I will never listen too someone who at one point, was a cheerleader for Trump !!
And the Mooch couldn't say enough good things about Trump !!
That alone,proves he makes bad life choices!!
Thank you Joe for 2020, but time for you to step aside and let Newsom do the same to Trump in 2024.
Jamie Raskin
What about all the lies trump told!
No Biden is a lier open your eyes
What about all the lies Biden told. Ill just leave you with one example: Biden lied about Trump's administration having the highest debt in history, when actually Biden's admin does. You can easily verify this through the government's treasury fiscal data site, which reports debt by fiscal year. fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/historical-debt-outstanding/historical-debt-outstanding
What about the truths Trump told.
@@davidwoods358 Such as..?
@@grunthostheflatulent2613Immigration for starters
Any normal politician would have easily beaten Trump tonight. For example, think what a Governor Newsom would have done--he would have mopped the floor with Trump. But Biden looked old, tired and pale.
As he often does.
Trouble is Newsom doesnt not come out well in opinion polls against Trump.
@@god1971bwhere are these polls you’re talking about?
Newsom has destroyed California.
Jamie Raskin would make a fantastic president
I really would like to get back to voting FOR a candidate instead of voting against another candidate.
His team should be found guilty of “political malpractice “.
Replacing Joe late can work. Here in NZ Jacinda took over leadership of her party 6 weeks out from the election. The rest as They say, is history.
Different rules. Super delegates already selected - bed, nails, made and now have to lay in it
@@yatatusimu2498. Not if Joe steps aside. Jamie Raskin
Neither! Trump lied and lied and never answered any question. Biden fell apart!😢😢
Name the lie’s
I have a degree in Rhetoric and have some understanding of persuasion. In order to persuade the speaker's ethos...his or her traits..determine whether the audience will accept the arguments of the speaker. Joe simply looked and sounded feeble and confused. Trump, while being obviously insane and a liar, was coherent in his lying. Many Americans are not critical thinkers and will lean towards Trump. I think this is a disaster for America.
In the UK, Corbyn did not oppose Brexit and so effectively left the conservatives unopposed. Biden may be responsible for giving Trump a second term, by continuing when seen as becoming too old and certainly too old to stay in office another 4.5 years. Last night may be a one-off, but it shows the world that there is a severe risk that Biden cannot be sure to remain fit enough to complete a second term .
Why am I having a miserable time getting out of bed today? Oh I know. Our country is going down the toilet with our leadership.
we're voting BIDEN & blue, all the way!
Okay you steel the comunist democrats
Marxist
Look up Bidens daughters diary and what he did to her
He won’t be around to vote for.
Yeah I'm with you, all for more high inflation and putting America last, sending trillions and trillions of our tax dollars going over sea's and not taking care of American needs...
Oh and yes let's not forget about the open borders and now they are finding ISIS affiliates crossing over into our country...
Learn facts before cheerleading your vote...
Robert F Kennedy Jr. Is the best logical choice right now...
CNN gave trump much more time to speak
Yes, because the Clown News Network is in the tank for President Trump 🙄
Cause Trump generates headlines and higher viewership, so the more he spoke, the better it was for them.
@@bahamut724 Yeah, Trump is popular 👍
They were cutting Joe off because he was talking nonsense ... as usual.
CNN was horrible. Disgusting.
This is why there should have been a primary.
The Mooch is miles ahead of our usual commentators. Yes, America rose to the level required in 1944. And in 1945 and 1950 and 1952... and... There were adults in the room, urgency in the air. I don't know how Biden got to this point. And how no one worked this out earlier. He had to retire after 2021... I give you a better America... I'm going fishing. Thank you Joe. Instead, this whole inertia thing... all these old leaders, old ideas. How irresponsible is it to run Biden? Bad enough they went with Hillary and then Biden over Bernie... but this?
Cenk from The Young Turks made the analogy to pushing Diane Feinstein out in a wheel chair.
It was a really sad watch. I'm not even from the US but that was frightening as someone from a Western country. If Democrats don't replace Biden, Trump will easily win.
The other frightening thing is that if Trump wins this time, his mate Farage will be on the rise in the UK. There's a well-known saying: "When the U.S. sneezes Britain catches a cold." But when the U.S. has got pneumonia it's terrifying for the wider world.
Yes, they are handing it to donald
But tell me why Trump can lie endlessly? The moderators also helped Trump. And I strongly feel Trump was on some speed type drug.
Not on drugs ...he has been through a rigorous training exercise with months of court room appearances to get him into shape.
@@Ghengiskhansmum 👌🏾
Draft a new, punchier Democrat.
Americans are smarter than Mooch is giving them credit for. After the debate they interviewed 12 undecided voters in Michigan: 6 were more inclined towards Biden, 5 towards Trump and 1 unsure. And this was with Trump at his very best and Biden at his very worst.
Too close for comfort. Should've been an easy win for Dems
Sad night for America. Please, no more debates between these two. Hard to watch Biden, & Trump lied all night.Just let the people vote in November. Let this be a lesson to both parties. Neither should be the candidates to the greatest country in the world.
The only true winners, the media.
Name one lie.
@@marthar6491 I didn't sleep with a pornstar.
There won’t be any more debates. Dems won’t take a risk again.
@@phil00075hopefully 🙏
Why are they laughing? There is nothing remotely amusing about Trump getting a second term. Mind you, I bet the debate made Putin's day.
If it really mattered Biden would be replaced. The fact that those two are running for President should tell you that it isn't a real job.
Putin has got a hardon right now.
I’m fact, I’d bet my house he will pass within 4 years.
Comparing Biden to only Biden himself, he was awful. I expected him to have a good debate. If he really was sick, he can debate successfully Sept 10 and he has to go out and speak with the people a helluva lot between now & then. If he was not sick, if that's actually merely him having a bad night, it's too risky, he has to step aside. Anybody should have been able to wipe the floor with trump
I’m voting for democracy. I’m sticking with Joe.
It's not people like us that we should be worried about.
👏👏👏me too
Thank you @meemeezong1827
Not having a primary is Democracy? DNC is a runaway train. Trump will win.
Well it’s now a wasted vote.
If the Dems have any respect for Biden and more importantly the USA, please pick anyone to replace him for the election.
It´s probably easier said then done.
People like Clyburn have a lot to answer for. He went with Biden over Bernie... and now he is hanging in there with Biden, presumably, to the end. Biden is done. We all saw it, see it. The whole senior leadership thing is done. Clyburn... from a state that will never elect a Democrat, and people listened to him. Where is the sense here?
Sadly, im with moochy! We cannot have EITHER of these geriatrics! Say g'bye to NATO England!
Debate was horrible for both guys, Biden will still win purely based on people voting against tRump like what happened in 2020.
Keep dreaming
What if trump's VP is a horrible choice. That might hurt him.
I felt a lot better yesterday...
@@teresacox682 no need to dream, history has already proven how much people disliked tRump as president & they showed up in 2020 when 81+ million people voted against him...
I really want to believe that but it's hard to see how that happens now. You're on the verge of full on facism and you're asking people to accept that the only alternative is Weekend At Bernie's
I’m still voting for Joe.
That says everything about the far left.
@@pauljohnson1664 Joe Biden is not far-left. He's literally a corporate Democrat. How TF is that far-left?
@@pauljohnson1664 Says lots about you to describe a comment like that as far left, lmao. I'm not an American, but I'd still vote for Biden because I'd vote for the guy who isn't going to destroy the democratic state like Trump will. , even if he's past it. If you vote for Trump, you vote for a step toward an authoritarian dictatorship, that much appears true. If I were you, I'd be more focused on the problems presented by the far right.
Then you are a mindless far left zealot.
Yeah, better a demented than a psychopatic dictator...
But is it possible that wr may not have other options to choose from?
Can't they give him a job on the apprentice to shut Trump up!
I think Joe had a stroke and his team isn’t telling us. 😢
Jill Biden needs to say some kind words to Joe and he has to stand down.
Yes. You would think 🤔.
If she loves him that is what she would do.
She really does
The stakes are too high. Biden should consider releasing his delegates. If he, Obama, and Pelosi need to have that conversation.
Surely Obama will say something after that ?
@@Kodakcompactdisc no amount of spin will change the damage President Biden did with that performance. There are other capable candidates who actually have some vim and vigor. If The President values his country more than control, he will consider drawing his career to a close. I like him and he has done an excellent job. In the end we all have our day.
Is it a debate when one person is either dodging the questions and/or lying? Anthony, give the American people some credit to see through those lies. Joe had a bad night but on trump's best night he's still a threat to the American people.
I'm in australia and am terrified at the possibility of another trump presidency. Vote for democracy not for an authoritarian convicted felon.
You know NOTHING about the USA. We are NOT a "Democracy"... We are a Republic. Read OUR Constitution.
I'm in USA and I'm voting for mass deportations.
Lol. You all said that in 2016. We had a world with no wars. It was safe. Now you tell us that you don't think. You just vote 😂😂
Swing state voter here. I voted for Biden, will not do it again. I have never nor would ever vote for Trump. Disasters lie ahead no matter who wins. First time I'm not voting in 40 years, unless one of the parties replace their nominee.
@@PoliticsinShorts91 He was an appeaser. Just like Chamberlain there were no wars when he was in too. Came later, he'd set the conditions for war to be more likely. Obama and Trump both failed in this front.
American politics needs young blood.
Wait a minute…. The boomers aren’t finished destroying our country!
Unfortunately, Biden's performance was lackluster.
That’s putting it mildly. But I hope those who were voting for him before the debate will still do so, if only to shut the door on Trump.
@@candywilson6908 The door may have been shut but not on Trump.
That’s being generous
You know I noticed when Biden mentioned that Trump was like Adolf Hitler Trump didn't say nothing
Donald likes Hitler
A statement so ridiculous that no response required.
Guess the Dems should have held a primary, something a Party fighting for democracy would do.
Are you saying that America prefer a motor mouth to be president? Trump lies about everything he said. I hope America is smarter than that.
America is not that smart. That's quite obvious. Republicans put Trump back in. A shameful party. I used to be a Republican. No more.
_Tell us lies, tell us sweet little lies..._
Me too!!!!
Then he should have been corrected by Biden. Biden looked weak because he couldn't rebut Trump's stream of Trumpisms.
@@theonlycaulfield but thats the secret. nobody really can, not in 1 minute. You cant take apart three new lies ad hoc on the fly every three minutes, its exhausting and exasperating.. It has to be shoved down Trmp's throat now, when we have time to digest it. Every single line should become a campaign ad. Biden will just have to go out now and get out in public, when his virus clears, and demonstrate he is capable. If he steps down, he will do so for the good of the country.
Don't give up on Biden, he lost his track on trumps lies. To many lies I got confused.
I work with people who have schizophrenia. There is one really nice guy who speaks in tangents and I always try to follow his train of thought. I saw that look on Biden’s face throughout the debate. Sad. They over-prepared him to deal with a “normal” person.
President Biden is done. Trump was awful in this debate. His answers made no sense. We had the best H2O?? 😂. And Biden still couldn’t beat him.
Don’t defend Biden. To do so at this point is to support Trump.
Great! Vote BLUE and have more Higher Taxes, High Food Costs, More Crime, More WARS and have all those 2 Million Migrants DEPLETE the Social Security Fund as Biden gives them free money without them putting anything into it, so when YOU go to collect, there won't be anything left in the Fund when you retire. Vote BLUE and be the Fool.
U can't have this man as leader of the free world u just can't
There is no amount of spin that can rescue the dems from this debacle.
So SO painful to watch. You gotta believe millions of people watched the first five minutes, thought "Are you kidding me with this?" and switched off.
Please do a fact check on each claim Trump made.
Facts and Trump's words side by side !
DJT said this country is 'failing' or the 'worst' 25 times, that's his thing,chaos.
Yes fact-check Trump are you going to find he told the truth every time fact check lion joke and you going to find out he lied most of the time who's in the right mind that would vote anything Democrat
There should be a way to instantly fact check and find them heavily ,as well as ban them from spreading falsehoods.
Fact check both.
@@brucesomers7555 That the United States is failing is an opinion rather than a call to chaos.
So one bad debate and your ready to call it??? Atleast Biden answered the damned questions!
Democrats bought a spoon to a knife fight.
The Mooch is right, he has to be able to slam Trump in a debate. But he failed.
Trump has no wood to touch so Stormy says
A Prostitute shapes your opinions? Vote BLUE and have more Higher Taxes, High Food Costs, More Crime, More WARS and have all those 2 Million Migrants DEPLETE the Social Security Fund as Biden gives them free money without them putting anything into it, so when YOU go to collect, there won't be anything left in the Fund when you retire. Vote BLUE and be the Fool.
Gavin Newsom will definately wipe the floor with Trump
That's a really doubtful proposition. Newsome might look like a plausible alternative until you start peeling back the onion.
One, Newsom has never held or run for any sort of office outside the State of California. A state where the Democrats have a supermajority and thus free reign over all aspects of policy, some of which have been okay and some of which have been pretty disastrous.
Two, California doesn't look, from a demographic point of view, remotely like the rest of the USA. So, policies which might have traction there because of the composition of the electorate, are non-starters in a lot of other places.
Three, you really need to examine Newsom's likeability factor amongst Independents, moderate Republicans, and working class persons before positing him as a plausible candidate. I would submit that as a guy coming from a privileged background, with his slicked back hair and $5000 suits, there's a wide disconnect between Newsom and these voting blocs.
Lastly, Newsom is the governor of a state that gets constantly panned by national media for its intrusive policies, constant drain of people and industries, massive taxing of the populace, and ingrained red tape in government.
Those are just the facts on the ground and make him, to me, unelectable. If the Democrats want to win, they need to replace Biden with someone like Biden, a moderate Democrat, if there's one remaining. Going the progressive route with someone like Newsome will end in a disaster ala George McGovern in 1972.
Disagree w/Anthony! Convicted felon & rapist is being sentenced on July 11. Gavin’s time is 2028. We cannot change horses now & that would be a disaster. Former President Obama had a disastrous first debate & managed two terms! Get a grip!! Dana Bash & Jake Tapper need to be fired. Joe Biden should refuse to debate that liar. Why are the newspapers NOT asking for convicted felon to step down? Shows what messed up times we are in. Biden looks like that because he is opposite a lying convicted felon & propagandist who spewed lies. Vote for Joe Biden & turn this ship around!
@@ulicalWhat a fantastic response. Shoot. Where do we go from here??
What planet are u from lmao ! Hats some dumb shit right there !
Maybe they need to get Amy Klobuchar to run!!
Biden was blinded by his Hated for Trump in this debate ...
But don't underestimate Biden , he will come back strong in the next few months , both at the Democratic convention and importantly at the Sept debate ...!!!
Rasky 2024
Im still voting for Biden. No way in hell do I want to have a convict as our president again
Did you know trump is the only president in history who's net worth dropped during his presidency and he donates his salary and the only reason he was ever indicted is because he went against crooked Brandon, would you do something if it lost you money i don't think so ... hes doing it because he cares about America.
Biden is a convict. He just hasn't been convicted because the DOJ are a bunch of criminals just as he and his administration are.
Great! Vote BLUE and have more Higher Taxes, High Food Costs, More Crime, More WARS and have all those 2 Million Migrants DEPLETE the Social Security Fund as Biden gives them free money without them putting anything into it, so when YOU go to collect, there won't be anything left in the Fund when you retire. Vote BLUE and be the Fool.
I don't want some guy who sniffs girl's hair and showers with his daughter who constantly lies and is a POS draft dodger
I’d vote for a rocking horse over donald
Americans deserve so much better than both of them.
Thank you Katy and Anthony for your great insights, very interesting .
Anybody replacing Joe has to have some name recognition. There just aren't that many Dems who are on the same level of name recognition as Joe that all Dem politicians can get behind.
Jamie Raskin
Where was CNN with calling bullshit on the torrent of lies in real time? At least with on screen annotations.