Diane Character Analysis (Bojack Horseman) | Therapist Reaction
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Diane is a very well-rounded character in Bojack Horseman. She begins as a strong, independent, and opinionated woman looking to further her career. What you find throughout the show is that her drive and determination become lost in her own expectations of herself and what people think of her. She is a great character to do my first character analysis on and I can't wait to do more, and not only from Bojack Horseman!
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Oh my god. I understand Diane more. You’re everyone’s personal therapist, and you’re always there to help and listen. But when you want to vent, you’re ungrateful or whiny. Poor Diane.
9:43 - 12:13 This exact point is brought up by Charlotte Carson in Season 2 Episode 11 "Escape From L.A."
"It doesn't matter where you are, it's who you are, and that's not gonna change whether you're in California or Maine or New Mexico. You know, you can't escape...you."
I've always related to Diane but especially now this video really hit. I just got out of a relationship with someone who never really knew me then took a trip to another state hoping it would give me some sort of clarity on wtf I'm supposed to be doing with my life and how to be happy but I felt more alone and bad about myself than I ever have. I've been considering getting on meds for a while now but that trip really convinced me to do it because I finally realize the only way I'm going to be happy is if I start working on myself and that is the first step. Always relying on other people to tell me what to do and how to feel has left me so empty and directionless.
It's like Diane hasn't learned about her emotions, what they tell her. She can't listen and understand what her emotions are telling her. So instead of looking inwards for answers, she gets passive, runs from them or wait for others to tell her what they think or expect her to do. And that, i think is the development we get to see following Diane's story.
I hope you do videos on the rest of the Bojack characters!
Mr. Peanut Butter is an interesting subject
Hello
I just recoded a Mr peanut butter video
Hope to put it up next week
Watch this space
This channel is so underrated. Keep it up!
This video really hit me in a way I didn’t expect. I definitely see that I’ve had a passive mindset, sort of expecting other people to know/tell me what I should do. I know what makes me happy, but I think I need to have a more active mindset around grad school and work. I can’t just wait for others to tell me what the right next thing to do is. I just need to start doing.
I haven't watched a lot of Bojack, but the way you broke down Diane's character was beautiful. I related especially to having everyone make decisions for me. I was abused by a narcissistic, yet loving mom who dictated everything for me. And as I am healing my traumas, I want to gain the courage to learn, make mistakes, and grow. I still struggle, but you have me something to think about :)
I relate so much to Diane (Even to an uncomfortable level) that this felt very much like a counselling session. Great analyisis!
I'm so glad you've decided to do another video on Bojack. The show and it's characters helped me realize a lot of maladaptive behaviors in myself that I hadn't recognized until seeing them portrayed on screen. This show really is something special. Keep up the good work!
"I can't bare doing anything" is such a good way to describe depression, but I can't even bare to call anyone
Loved it! Can't wait to see more. It's amazing how much insight you're able to glean from these characters without watching the show from the beginning. A credit to both you and the writers. It makes for a very fresh perspective, and I hope you keep it up.
I just ended a friendship with someone who was a lot like Diane. I became her Diane, cheering her on and promoting her growth while never really asserting much of myself into that friendship. This meant that almost all the focus was on her needs, which was what I thought I wanted. We hung out for two years with neither of us knowing what my true value was. I had to break it off because I realized the friendship wasn't serving my needs at all. This could have been avoided had I valued myself and acted accordingly. Good friendships/relationships are about knowing, truly, what you can offer to each other and accepting that.
Sounds a lot like Diane and Bojack. They're admittedly very similar.
Have you ever thought of doing an analysis of the Wilkerson family (Malcolm in the Middle)? While it’s a sitcom, there’s generation after generation of emotional abuse to be picked apart there. Lois is especially fascinating in that she’s a narcissist who can never admit when she’s wrong and I’d love to see what you think of her and where you think the family members would’ve ended up
As in “where they would’ve ended up since they refused to grow or learn”
They have a last name?!
Any chances of Princess Carolyn making the list of characters? She appears to be one of the most adjusted but is actually quite vulnerable.
i cried more than expected watching this, and i’m not quite sure what to do with that. this was a great video, thank you for sharing.
Always happy to see more people covering this show, I love it so much.
I'm sorry.. This is a very superficial analysis.. you keep commenting on the superficial aspects of the things that happen.. like "don't be passive, figure out what you want" or "don't focus on the past" or "just write something else"..
You're missing really crucial parts about Diane's character.
It's all about feeling as if something is fundamentally wrong with her.
Did you notice when she's talking to Princess Carolyn and starting to panic about what would it mean if she didn't write (and essentially didn't make sense) of the trauma, she's saying "does it mean that all this time I could have had good parents"? This is obviously an impossible and completely illogical thought, but it speaks to how her family made her feel that her suffering was her fault. She's struggling with the suggestion that she was the one who made everything difficult for herself and her trauma was all in her head, and if so, if she could just "snap out of it" and be light and happy, then her parents were right about her all along. It's a catch 22. So the focus in therapy with someone like this, who has complex PTSD from relational trauma, is validating them and helping them trust themselves.. otherwise the lie from childhood eats everything up.
I actually really needed this today. Thank you.
This video felt like it was directed at me! It gives me fear, but more optimism to change my life!
Love this. Made me realize I relate so much more to Diane than I saw before. I'm looking forward to seeing you dissect Mr. PB
How do people actually find good therapists or counsellors? I've been to 5 theraputs already and this video has helped more then most sessions I've had😞
Bojack stole d and Mr peanut butter stole his thunder
This was a great analysis! Thanks for taking the time! :)
If I can make a suggestion, I think it'd be cool if you checked out Avatar the last airbender. The character of Prince Zuko especially goes into issues of codependency and damaged self-truths
Please do crazy ex-girlfriend next
It's on the list
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i mean,,, mr peanutbutter & diane had a pretty mutual breakup. i think by the end they're just in contact as friends. obviously there's a few pangs of guilt once in a while, and that'll change. but i'm a little uncomfortable how you treated their respect for eachother after their breakup as a negative.
this vid needs more views. superb
Lovely video!! Thank you for sharing!
Amazing channel and thank you so much for doing this work, it's so important to raise awareness. You're really good! We want more analysis :)
Your videos are really interesting
Mr. PB trying to do nice things for the person he loves doesn't make him a bad guy. I dislike how the writing of the show tries to write Mr. PB as the bad guy. Additionally, Diane uses her access to Bojack to write a book to stab him in the back. She turns in a draft that Bojack condemns (which suggests she had ulterior motives all along), and out of her anger leaks a portion of it to the public. When confronted with this, she never apologizes, she gets her way and actually hurts Bojack more. Diane was never the moral compass of the show.
Sorry, I know this comment is from a few months ago now, but I wanted to mention that Diane does apologize to Bojack, but only after he directly confronts her about it. Still better than her not apologizing tho, and she does specify to Bojack that she genuinely feels sorry and isn’t just telling him what he wants to hear.
This is wonderful and eloquent.
Over the course of this series, it becomes apparent that Mister Peanutbutter is a HUGE narcissist, but a...benevolent one. You would probably know a better term for it than me, but the gist is that Mr. Peanutbutter legitimately, honestly wants everyone around him to be happy, he just doesn't get that the things that make him happy don't make everyone else happy too.
For example, the thing where he gets the cameras on Diane during the press conference. He did that because he LOVES the spotlight, loves being the center of attention, and he loves Diane and wants her to be happy, so he's trying to give her her equal time in that spotlight, but he doesn't understand that it doesn't make her feel happy and gratified, it makes her uncomfortable.
Mr. Peanutbutter is a very well meaning person who only wants to make everyone around him happy. And it's really interesting to see his character develop because over the course of the series, we start to see a lot of frustration coming out at his apparent inability to make the people he cares about happy. He begins to get seriously upset at what he perceives as the ungratefulness of the people he's trying to brighten the lives of. Of course, their ungrateful because the things he's doing actually make them uncomfortable, embarrassed, anxious, and angry, but he doesn't understand why because those same things make him happy. He's a pretty tragic character when you get to know him.
8:20 Okay, I actually have a little relevant experience here. My wife is a cam girl (if anyone wants her links just ask) and I do occasionally feel some jealousy over it. In my case though, I just have to remind myself that it's just a base emotional reaction with no real justification. And I do. And then it passes.
I think it helps a lot that we've been poly or some other variation of open since we first got together, and as a result we've developed a very strong foundation of trust and communication.
A lot of people just aren't good at putting themselves in other people's shoes. It's essentially a lack of cognitive empathy, but that alone doesn't make a narcissist.
Mr Peanutbutter is not entitled, manipulative or arrogant, but he does have a lot of self confidence which might confuse people. He does have a need for attention but he actually overcomes it by the end of the series (ending up with no romantic partner).
Conversely to a narcissist, he's also a bit of a people-pleaser, as he struggles with telling people when he's upset about their actions. He effects himself and others negatively with toxic positivity.
Oh God. You’re just describing me right now.
I almost moved to another state b/c my friend was going there for school and I wanted...SOMETHING. I felt stagnant (heck, I still do) and i thought a change in environment would give me SOMETHING. I also started seeing a therapist not long before that and she basically said something similar to what was said here: that my environment would change, but the stuff I have issues with is still with me.
I'm still struggling with knowing what I want, and just working on myself in general.
The only positive thing that i can identify immediately is that when I look back on who I was before I started therapy and where I am now, I can see progress.
It's slow, it's hard, and I feel like there's always a reason to quit b/c what's the point?
But looking back, I can see how I clung to that pain the same way Diane did regarding her frustrations on why she couldn't create the book she wanted. That the pain 'was for nothing' and I needed it to validate some aspects of myself.
Sometimes I still feel that way; but I always end up remembering that I don't like where I was before I started therapy, so I try to keep going, and i feel kinda hopeful? I guess? Hopeful that I will be able to find myself and find out what I DO want the more I continue to work on myself.
Mr. PB is toxic but I also think Diane could have communicated her struggles more. she dragged herself down
Love it
Love it!
Wait 29 comments wow I just assumed this would be really popular lol
am i the only one who thought diane was annoying?