Milwaukee M18 Batteries - Watch Before You Buy!

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  • Milwaukee M18 Batteries - Watch Before You Buy!
    A test to see how much more run time you get out of a standard milwaukee m18 xc battery VS a milwaukee m18 xc 5.0 hour battery.
    A two pack of the standard milwaukee m18 xc batteries is $139 dollars.
    A single Milwaukee M18 XC 5.0 battery is $129 dollars.
    Which is the better deal?

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  • @VCGConstruction
    @VCGConstruction  6 років тому +8

    Batteries Tested Under Load : ua-cam.com/video/sb-cYbzSmH0/v-deo.html

    • @ryanray8983
      @ryanray8983 5 років тому +1

      I am a Dewalt guy but love your video. You think like I do.

    • @raymondpoteet8920
      @raymondpoteet8920 5 років тому

      @@ryanray8983 I'm so sorry! LOL

    • @simplejack2489
      @simplejack2489 5 років тому

      Toast

    • @ernestwalden3894
      @ernestwalden3894 3 роки тому

      How should I store my m12 and m18 batteries for a year or 2. Charged or dead ?

    • @Synic08
      @Synic08 2 роки тому

      Half full.

  • @stoneyswolf
    @stoneyswolf 5 років тому +25

    The bigger battery has a higher amp output so runtime isn't the only thing to consider. Volts are speed amps are power cell count is total storage.

    • @WizzRacing
      @WizzRacing 3 роки тому

      The output is the same...As they are fixed number...As a watt is a watt...

  • @livewiregto
    @livewiregto 6 років тому +6

    Sincerely appreciate guys like you who do this stuff for people you’ll never even meet

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  6 років тому +1

      We appreciate that James, funny thing is we actually do meet up with the #VeryCoolGang!!

  • @1fnjo790
    @1fnjo790 2 роки тому

    I bought a 1/2 drive Milwaukee fuel 18V 5.0 impact gun this past October and the plastic battery shell split in two at the seam and fell away from the tool yesterday. Never dropped the tool before. Battery is pretty heavy, and automotive work in cold garage with repetitive shock of impacts and the plastic shell let lose and split at the seam

  • @anonanonme2463
    @anonanonme2463 5 років тому +8

    Good video, I've known about the two vs. One for years. Friends laughed at me for buying the two packs all the time and running them on a gang charger, battery goes dead grab another and keep working while theirs went dead and they kept snitching my batteries while theirs were charging.

  • @Brandonjraw
    @Brandonjraw 5 років тому +7

    The ah rating isnt just about run time it's also about available amps. The tools have alot more torque the higher the ah so higher is better

    • @WizzRacing
      @WizzRacing 3 роки тому

      No it's not.. The rated amp output is right on their sight....Your not going to exceed that limit...
      You want proof. Learn electrical ohms law...As a watt is a watt...Be like shoving 30 amps into an appliance that can only handle 500 watts. You just get longer run time. That is it...
      Oh.. And that extra power comes at a cost. Higher heat... Something all these cordless makers understand.,They want you to burn up that tools. Just as the warranty expires. As their not stupid...

  • @court2379
    @court2379 5 років тому +4

    I see lots of comments about the larger battery providing more torque. Amp hours are not the same as Amps. A 5Ah battery does not inherently produce more torque than a 3Ah one. It depends on tools power draw. The battery voltage is the same for both, so to get more Ah they are putting groups of batteries in parallel. Due to internal resistance in the batteries each group can only provide a fixed current, so adding more groups provides more total current. If the tool doesn't draw more than the smaller battery can provide before it reaches the limit of the internal resistance, then there will be no differences in performance.
    Also I believe this test is misleading. Because these batteries were run continuously they got very hot. Lithium batteries have temperature shut offs. The larger battery probably shut off due to over heating, not due to running out of power. It has less surface area to disipate the heat, relative to the number of cells in it. It should last about 30min longer.
    I would reconduct the test, running for ten minutes, and then resting for ten over and over until they stop. That will provide more realistic real world use and allow for cooling.
    I agree that the two 3Ah batteries are the better buy though at 6Ah total, and the cooling and ability to charge at the same time as the other is in use is more useful.

    • @Synic08
      @Synic08 2 роки тому

      ....a larger battery has less voltage drop.... lithium battery’s shut off at a low voltage mark.... they hit this mark under load.... usually your tool after sitting a moment will still run... this being said, a larger battery, one with more cells will have less voltage drop, because each individual cell is working less, by dividing the load, thus increasing the voltage to the tool, thus increasing the torque....
      Larger battery’s provide more torque....
      You can get more torque from different cell types that have a higher discharge rate... this is usually called its “c” rating... C rating is directly related to the capacity vs discharge... but, you could have higher performance cells in a smaller battery, that beat a lower performance cell in a larger battery... not the case here

    • @court2379
      @court2379 2 роки тому

      @@Synic08 They aren't going to design the motor to pull current at a rate that exceeds the C rating of the single set of four 18650 batteries. It would ruin them or cause them to catch fire. So adding another set in parallel is going to have negligible effect as the first set can already supply the needed current and thus the voltage drop will be small as well.
      The size of the battery does not determine torque. That statement is false. The internal resistance and resulting current output is related to torque, but only if the motor is designed to use it. Yes within the same manufacturing method a bigger battery will have more surface area, can react chemically faster, and can output higher current. But using a different chemistry or even manufacturing method can produce a smaller battery with higher current output.
      Regardless the point is to stop getting people from thinking the Ah rating is the power output when it is and the available work, not how fast it can be consumed. The c rating determines that, and still doesn't mean the motor or control electronics are designed to use it if the larger battery can supply more current.

  • @timnash6870
    @timnash6870 3 роки тому

    TIM from Canada no matter what you were using Milwaukee , Bosch, Dewalt,.. Ryobi... or any of the other major brands if you can score 2 batteries in pack for the same price as a single battery you should pick this up

  • @chocolat4hogs
    @chocolat4hogs 4 роки тому +4

    These charge tests and value per dollar videos are so informative to me. Thank you

  • @RR-qf9re
    @RR-qf9re 6 років тому +1

    Even if the xc was exactly half of the 5.0. The 2 xc are better because of rotation. With one 5.0 you have to stop working for 30 minutes to wait for charge. Plus weight is an issue too if you working long hours.

  • @jesusfimbres2636
    @jesusfimbres2636 6 років тому +145

    Lol..." Are these batteries new?" No! We'll, why not? "Because Milwaukee doesn't fund this channel... I do!! So we are going to use some slightly used batteries.
    Awesome!! That was hilarious. Great video! 👍

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  6 років тому +3

      Glad you enjoyed it!! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @idmaft
      @idmaft 5 років тому

      I have a 28 volt impact by mil

    • @Gionics3c
      @Gionics3c 5 років тому

      Priceless😂😂😂

    • @alfredomarquez9777
      @alfredomarquez9777 5 років тому +1

      I have received several laptop battery packs that the laptops were signaling the "Connect the charger" message at briefer and briefer intervals, pointing to wornout batteries. BUT, as I opened them and checked the individual cells voltajes, I found that the cells were almos fully charged! SO, WHY the damn laptop was signalling the owner to "connect the charger now" at sooner and sooner times?As I wanted to use those cells (18650) in my older drills and cordless tools, I proceeded to recharge them with my TRITON charger meant to recharge NiCads, NiMHs, Li-Ions, LiPos and even Lead-Acid batteries for aeromodelers. The cells accepted charge normally and have provided YEARS of extra use...So I think that Laptop manufacturers install those small chips at the battery not only to adminístrate and monitor the recharge, and to balance it, but that they have found a cheap way to "wear-down" the laptop user patience in order to make him go and BUY A NEW, EXPENSIVE and INCOMPATIBLE battery pack sold only by them to replace the original "used" and "worn" batteries, that misteriously, have perfectly good Li-Ion cells, capable of perfectly driving the larger currents that cordless tools demand. Those extra chips in the laptop battery could be tricking the user that he needs an expensive new battery ON PURPOSE, even when the cells are still good? Can they do it based on a simple Discharge-Recharge counter, or a calendar counting the days... What do you think?

    • @aus_aircon_ref_mech6671
      @aus_aircon_ref_mech6671 5 років тому

      Cracked me up ! 😂😂😂😂

  • @myrbs13
    @myrbs13 5 років тому +5

    5.0 all day... if not the 9.0! Love the fuel tools own a ton of them

  • @justintaylor99
    @justintaylor99 6 років тому +2

    From what I understand, the 5.0 and 9.0 are higher output, meaning that your tools should be more powerful, so this test is good but that should be considered because you could get more cuts per charge, I've noticed my cordless hole hawg works much better on 5.0 and 9.0 than my 4.0 and below.

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  6 років тому +1

      That’s what we heard as well Justin, we did run an “under load” as well!

  • @TheBoardWoodworker
    @TheBoardWoodworker 6 років тому +17

    Hey guys let's do this same test with the batteries under load to see if the result changes. We might be surprised. Keep up the good work guys live the content

  • @SawyerMotorsports
    @SawyerMotorsports 6 років тому +1

    Try this same test with the fuel impact...the Xc battery will not provide the amperage needed to produce 1400ft lbs like the 9.0 will. It’s been tested many times. You’re correct about “run time”, but dollar for dollar, torque and “workload” is where the larger batteries stand out.

  • @austinsonger388
    @austinsonger388 6 років тому +4

    Try doing that while actually using the tool on a material. U also failed to mention the 5.0 puts out power than those regular xc batteries.

  • @mysterycomment1553
    @mysterycomment1553 4 роки тому

    Not to mention that you can always have a battery on the charger while using the other. Plus the 3.0 actually charges faster.

  • @Lakecenterlawncare
    @Lakecenterlawncare 6 років тому +77

    Run the same test under load.

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  6 років тому +3

      We did ua-cam.com/video/sb-cYbzSmH0/v-deo.html
      Test rig might need some fine tuning, but under load the results are shocking!

    • @Lakecenterlawncare
      @Lakecenterlawncare 6 років тому +2

      Wow. I am now subscribed. I should have checked out more of your videos before I commented! Thanks and keep up the good work!

    • @ravenoutwind3077
      @ravenoutwind3077 6 років тому +3

      xactly your test is crap

    • @kmorness
      @kmorness 6 років тому +3

      I agree, this test was crap. I used a Sawzall to cut down 4 trees (ranging from 7-9" diameter), and my two XC5.0 batteries and one charger were nearly able to keep up. Cutting through thick wood caused the battery to overheat at 50% capacity, then I'd swap to my other battery. Eventually I had either dead or hot batteries. But with branches and smaller stuff, the batteries could keep up without overheating. I'd rather have two stronger batteries, than four weaker ones, simply because I'm switching less often. But I never buy standalone batteries, I get them as promo deals with some other tool. I'm about to get the weedtrimmer kit that comes with a leaf blower and a XC9.0 battery and another charger. So now I'll have 3 batteries and 2 chargers. Don't think I can cause 3 batteries to go down.

    • @jlinkhart
      @jlinkhart 6 років тому +1

      kmorness out of curiosity did you use a normal sawzall blade or did you use a tree pruning blade? I just noticed they make them and was curious how much better they work. I’d imagine they work a lot better than a normal blade.

  • @jeremyd9826
    @jeremyd9826 5 років тому

    Let me stop you at 5 min. Time is money, an additional 5, 10, 15 min of runtime on one battery is worth the extra money imo. Some days I barely use my tools, some days I burn them out in 10min. the faster I finish the more I can make. The extra money spent initially makes up in time down the road for the longer lasting battery. I'm limited on space for tools as materials take most of it. I dont have time to wait for a battery to charge. I greatly appreciate the video!

  • @960wattoffgridrv
    @960wattoffgridrv 3 роки тому

    I have two M18 5.0AH batteries. I did have 3. One was stolen. Later I bought the m18 chainsaw. Picked up a 9.0AH battery. The new battery cuts out every few seconds. Tried it in other tools to lighten the workload on the battery. Ended up smashing the battery with an axe. I'll remember to buy a 2 pack of the smaller batteries. They charge faster and between rotations to and from the charger, they work around the clock for me.

  • @DaleCarterDrives
    @DaleCarterDrives Рік тому

    Nice video Another advantage of two batteries is when one dies, throw the charges one in and keep working while the dead one charges. Tip - let the dead one cool off before charging it. Also, if some choad in the site “borrows” a battery, you still have one.
    The 5.0 takes longer to charge and makes the tool heavier.
    There are times when you want the bigger battery, like on an impact wrench or hammer drill, just because the smaller batteries die too quickly under heavy loads. I learned that drilling and setting a bunch of masonry fasteners on a project.

  • @IMKINDOFABIGDEAL13
    @IMKINDOFABIGDEAL13 5 років тому +1

    I would lije to say that if you are looking for a battery for a larger tool like a roto hammer, circular saw or sawzall the 5.0 may be a better choice if you are more concerned about the battery lasting longer between changes.

  • @DanielSmith-br1zi
    @DanielSmith-br1zi 4 роки тому

    I go to a used tool store and get milwaukee 5.0 batteries that look brand new and are most likely used for a month, lightly. I pay 100 for 2. When using a hole hawg to mix structure lite in a bucket, they run out after making only 2 bucket loads. Also, they really aren't the best for making 3" holes or above through thick wood. But maybe they arent meant for such things anyway. They last me almost 8 hours when cutting pvc, copper, and light materials etc.

  • @joellerue850
    @joellerue850 6 років тому +11

    Some tools require more amp hour output which you get out of the 5.0 however those 3ah batteries are great

  • @douglashicks4859
    @douglashicks4859 5 років тому +1

    Good video. We all know the batteries cost more than the tool itself so I look for deals on the 5.0 batteries. Just picked up 2804-22 for 149.99 at my local home depot. 2- 5.0ah batteries and m18fuel hammer drill.

  • @mystang88
    @mystang88 2 роки тому

    I get what you're saying and it does make sense. But I work on a lot of big job sites with no power or sometimes a generator to charge. Gotta have multiple batteries. I'm currently rolling with 2) 9.0's, 2) 5.0's and 2) 4.0's fully charged everyday plus my job has 6) 5.0s on the jobs.

  • @cp070476
    @cp070476 5 років тому

    The 9.0Ah batteries are superb! just the right size can even use them with combi drills. I have a 12.0Ah bit big that's used on my SDS.

  • @markaitchison2960
    @markaitchison2960 6 років тому

    You forget to mention that the higher amp hour battery will provide more power to the tool to cut through tougher materials. It’s not all about run time.

  • @timnash6870
    @timnash6870 3 роки тому

    TIM from Canada 2 is always better than 1.. if you were doing the lawn care and you have Milwaukee M 18 fuel equipment you can run two pieces of equipment than you can with the standard one battery... if this is my choice and I am at Home Depot and there is a 2 battery pack.. I will always buy2 battery pack over single battery... this will always be my choice

  • @chicaromero3994
    @chicaromero3994 5 років тому +1

    Thanks for showing which 1 was a better deal.

  • @ebenezerservices6363
    @ebenezerservices6363 4 роки тому

    Well the bigger battery is for bigger task or more power; running time matters little depending on the task in hand, for exsample an skill saw will perform better with the 5 amp, so again depending the task and the tool; it's my humble opinion im not an expert but ive been using battery tools for over 25 years and electric tools as well.

  • @melaniesalvadorcubas8322
    @melaniesalvadorcubas8322 Рік тому

    You would have to test the tools with load, not test them on empty, if the tests are cutting, you can see the difference in amperage that lasts when both batteries are cutting the materials.

  • @arizonaresponse
    @arizonaresponse 5 років тому

    very helpful. I just bought a battery powered Sawzall as dragging my 25 year old old corded model up a tree with a hundred foot extension cord, was inconvenient. (The mid priced one, brushless) I got a good (estimated) 30 minutes run time on out of my XC, and it was recharged faster than it took the next one to die. Also have a XC 4.0, but didn't notice any real difference. I was contemplating buying one of the new super-batteries, but was struggling to rationalize why a 30 minute heavy load run time was a bad thing - especially when I can just pop the second battery in and keep going.
    FWIW, the cordless "Super Sawzall" really got me excited on a manly-man visceral level (Cue tim Allen from Tool Time - rugh, rugh rugh!), and I can see some value to the orbital blade action option, but holding it over my head with one hand, made me quickly realize the smaller one was going to be better for my purposes.
    Will watch the load test video.

  • @oby-1607
    @oby-1607 6 років тому +9

    Size matters. It's not about the money.

  • @davidgunther1282
    @davidgunther1282 5 років тому +9

    Yup. “New” batteries are only new till the first time you use them. Sweet video bro.

    • @adamschoenherr3057
      @adamschoenherr3057 4 роки тому

      but they come depleted and you need to charge them first. so they're kinda not new anymore by the time you're actually capable of using them for the first time.

  • @ryanjewell9832
    @ryanjewell9832 6 років тому +1

    I got my 5.0 batteries with stand lights, on clearance at a local home Depot for 149.00 with the stand light, 5.0 battery, and standard charger. Didn't think it was a bad deal so I got two.

  • @nickb7040
    @nickb7040 4 роки тому

    I know what your saying but in the m12 line the 6ah battery kills the 2ah for torque and actual performance. That was why I purchased 3 of them not just for run time!

  • @jlinkhart
    @jlinkhart 6 років тому +1

    The 2 pack is $99 right now, so that makes it an even better deal than the 5.0 My question when I saw the new 5.0 batteries and the 2 packs reduced to $99 was “whats wrong with the 4.0 batteries? Is there a problem with them and they’re phasing them out? Or just offering another option?”

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  6 років тому

      They are coming out with 12.0 batteries that could be why....

  • @jackiechan_wtf4041
    @jackiechan_wtf4041 6 років тому +1

    I always buy all of my Milwukee tools and battery from either Amazon, E-bay or private seller.
    For example, I bought two 5.0 batteries for only $102, while one is sold for $109 at HD.

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  6 років тому

      Wow you got all the moves.... those 5.0 batteries, are they legit Milwaukee, capice?

    • @jackiechan_wtf4041
      @jackiechan_wtf4041 6 років тому +1

      @@VCGConstruction There are those "Chinese knockoffs" batterys, so I avoid them. Yes they do sell genuine true Milwaukee brand.
      Tommorow, I'm gonna buy the Fuel 1/2 impact Wrench for $170. In store, it would've cost $229+

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  6 років тому

      That’s the deal cuz!!

  • @lovemym16
    @lovemym16 4 роки тому +2

    Milwaukee had the 2 pack of 3.0 batteries on sale in thier Amazon store for $55.99 two weeks ago. Grabed two packs.

    • @ngk330
      @ngk330 4 роки тому

      drew hood want to send me a set ;) I need to find a deal like that haha

  • @andrewengland971
    @andrewengland971 5 років тому

    Except the 3.0 can’t hold up in the cold like the 5.0 and higher. I have a 9.0 that’s been attached to my impact and just sit in my truck. Only use it for wheels or brakes. I’ve had it about a year and charged it 2 times. It’s still full now from the second charge about 5 months ago maybe 6.

  • @seymourscagnetti1413
    @seymourscagnetti1413 6 років тому +1

    i am 62 now. i wish i were young again. the name of our gang was the LATIN FROGS, if someone pissed us off we would be forced to hop. i remember when i could jump around just like Vince. i remember it like it was yesterday. man, do i miss those days! i think Vince could be a LATIN FROG, if he wanted. (EXCELLENT REVIEW BY THE WAY)

  • @nattysawer
    @nattysawer 6 років тому

    Theoretically, but depends what you are buying the batteries for! Do you buy more amps or runtime! Maybe the 5.0 will run longer or just as long in a real world use case. I wouldn't recommend using a 3.0 on my cordless 10" miter saw. Remember more amps more power. This is kinda like comparing a 8 amp side winder to a 15. What will be more productive in the end?! Remember if you are a contractor your time is money!

  • @uniquesoundsolutions
    @uniquesoundsolutions 6 років тому +5

    Excellent video! Original. Are the XC actually 3.0 batteries? I always carry enough batteries based on the workload for a job. From my knowledge Milwaukee tools that need more amperage operate different when using a smaller capacity battery. My M18 vacuum sounds decidedly different when running a smaller battery as opposed to a 4 or 5.0 battery. So in light of that it pays to have an assortment of different batteries. (If one can afford them?)

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  6 років тому +1

      Thank you D. Knibb! Yes we agree, different batteries depending on the tool and the work!

    • @ultraorange1
      @ultraorange1 5 років тому

      D. Knibb same here, full size saw and sawzall like 5.0 and up. I should test if my impact are better kn the 5.0 or 2.0. I swear it kicks harder on the 5.0z

  • @james10739
    @james10739 6 років тому +1

    I feel like that answer was pretty obvious because the xc is 3ah right so 6 amp hour vs 5 and even if it was the exact same 2 seems better unless you already have plenty of batteries like at least 1 per tool you are planning on using then maybe if they were exactly the same 1 would be better just less space

  • @lsxbird7874
    @lsxbird7874 5 років тому

    ome thing though that does matter. The larger the battery, the more powerful your milwaukee impact can be. i have the 1400 ft lb impact. when i had a 2.5 amp hour battery on it, i couldnt break very tight LS engine crank bolts loose. Nor could my matco 900 ft lb air impact. Put my 5.0 battery on it, and it zipped right out. Put the 12 ah battery on it, and it increases the torque past the 1400 ft lb mark

  • @timdewitt1196
    @timdewitt1196 4 роки тому

    The first mistake is buying M18 batteries at Home Depot. I get a 2 packs of 5.0 Ah XC batteries plus a charger for $170 on amazon.

  • @supa_scoopa_and_mighty_scoop
    @supa_scoopa_and_mighty_scoop 6 років тому +1

    I use a 5.0 on my Milwaukee flashlight(2352-20). That thing last me like 2 1/2 days on a single charge. Using it for a 8 hour day

  • @chrisjones6165
    @chrisjones6165 5 років тому +1

    At 169$ I got 2 9.0 batteries and a rapid charger. Only way I'm buying batteries alone is when there on deals. Other than that buy a kit

  • @MichaelMccluskey
    @MichaelMccluskey 6 років тому

    For guys like me that like to get stuff done it's a lot more efficient to carry 9.0 batteries and not have to change them very often and carry fewer batteries around. Time is money and stopping to change batteries and charge batteries is a waste of time to me. Also they can power all the milwakee tools with no lag (blowers, vacuums, circ saws, ect.)... to each his own tho.

  • @CaptnBeeBop
    @CaptnBeeBop 2 роки тому

    Not only that but you've got a 2nd battery you can charge while you use the one in your tool. Easy winner

  • @joarflesja1516
    @joarflesja1516 5 років тому +2

    I have 6 5amp, 2 4amp, 2 2amp and two rapid chargers. 🤪 Great video and thanks for shereing 😊

  • @KleinGuyJon
    @KleinGuyJon 5 років тому +1

    I bought the 2 XC M18 on black friday last year at home depot for $99 that was a sweet deal now its around $132. Crazy huh lol? The twin pack is definitely worth having.

  • @boxingpunchalot9521
    @boxingpunchalot9521 6 років тому +1

    With a load the difference would be obvious.Even more if you would be using a Fuel milwaukee tool. The Fuel technology is the only one capable of giving extra power depending on the amp hour of your battery pack

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  6 років тому +1

      We did load testing and the results will be published this week! Thanks for watching!!

  • @markmeister2444
    @markmeister2444 3 роки тому

    But if you were working these two tools under the same work load would you sill achieve the same time difference between the two?

  • @galaxytraveler5779
    @galaxytraveler5779 4 роки тому

    So i read about faulty batteries and sure enough, mine has the charger rapidly flashing green and red. I heard sometimes they need to be 'jump started' with another battery or a 9 volt, but my battery has 1 bar of power and will power the drill. So i guess my battery is defective?

  • @chitywok4290
    @chitywok4290 4 роки тому +1

    Got my XC 5 for 42 bucks free shipping. Bought 2 of em once the first one came in. That guy raised his prices 20 dollars now 😞 is the 6 much better than the 5s? They say high outputs

  • @scottsena6760
    @scottsena6760 5 років тому

    For me? Weight, power, and longevity are three completely different priorities that you match for the specific tool and use.
    I’ve found that it’s best to have plenty of small, and go two deep with the XC/High Demand 5.0 and above. (You can keep things easy on your arms, have no bs reserve power for those tools that go through juice, and have XC torque where needed.)
    Also? Shop smart and if your a contractor? Develop a relationship with your Milwaukee rep....talk about service.

  • @donnymazinga5295
    @donnymazinga5295 6 років тому +1

    Ferguson Enterprises had the 2-Pk on sale for $104.99. At that price there was no way I was going to pass it up! 👍🏻

  • @jaygames1980
    @jaygames1980 6 років тому +4

    I invested in m12 line perfect for Automotive work

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  6 років тому +2

      It is a good line for automotive work!! We are heavily invested in the m12 line. Thanks for watching!

    • @whatfreedom7
      @whatfreedom7 6 років тому

      Have you had any experience with the 12 v screwgun or the 1/4” ratchet? I’m considering buying those and curious if their any good. My original plan was go with Bosch but their a piece of shit. First time I dropped the 1/4” impact a bearing fell out. No big deal I put it back together and used it for a while then my charger crapped out just out of warranty like everyone else’s. I won’t go with Bosch again.

    • @jaygames1980
      @jaygames1980 6 років тому

      whatfreedom7 I have two 3/8 ratchets since I do auto repair highly recommended, no experience with the screwdriver and I have the 3/8 impact m12 also love it over my 20v DeWalt stuff

    • @reptileguardian941
      @reptileguardian941 6 років тому +1

      M12 line rocks. I was doing a little project this weekend. Working with wood. Had all my m12 tools out. Each had a job. It was beautiful. Also was using a Milwaukee 2.4v "baby" screw driver drill. It's probably discontinued by now. Impossible to find online. Should look into it though. Nice little fella.

    • @reptileguardian941
      @reptileguardian941 6 років тому

      whatfreedom7 - I have both. Not a mechanic. Haven't used the 1/4" ratchet extensively. It does alright though. I've used it to do some work on my car. No complaints. Good torque.

  • @harleydavidson4105
    @harleydavidson4105 6 років тому +45

    In canada 🇨🇦 (MONTREAL QUEBEC) today there is a super special deal.........Milwaukee 9.0 Ah batteries, $ 99 canadien dollar around $65 USA dollar.... I bought 10 batteries ,my wife is going crazy lol

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  6 років тому +5

      The more the better!!! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @harleydavidson4105
      @harleydavidson4105 6 років тому +3

      VCG Construction... if i buy more she will kick me outta the house lolo... keep up the good work! Great videos

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  6 років тому +2

      You gotta walk the fine line bro!! 🤣🤣🤣

    • @harleydavidson4105
      @harleydavidson4105 6 років тому +1

      VCG Construction I always do 👍🏻

    • @jorgeguerra6749
      @jorgeguerra6749 6 років тому

      At what store?

  • @MrMetalhead85
    @MrMetalhead85 6 років тому +2

    Under load the 5.0 will last longer. I'm not talking from the side if my neck... all power tools I have is milwaukee.
    It's been tested on the field, where really matters

  • @iare19
    @iare19 6 років тому +3

    I only buy milwaukee batteries when they come with tools. 3x cheaper :D also mainly 5ah batteries. Angle grinder robs so much power.

  • @thewholls7176
    @thewholls7176 3 роки тому

    Good video..... I’m still a fan of corded tools...... cordless is handy for the pro but way more expensive on every level...

  • @bdragonseven
    @bdragonseven 5 років тому

    Truthfully most of the new Milwaukee batteries are running 5+ Samsung 18650 cells in series. Most of the tear downs I've done and have seen are 25R variants from Samsung. There's cheaper/high performing companies that produce 18650's on par with Samsung's quality. Some of these other batteries are rated between 3000-3600 milliamps with burst discharge amps at 40 and a nominal discharge rate of 20 amps. I've wanted to see for a long time what the major difference in tool performance would be if someone switched the batteries out that come from the factory in the red lithium packs.

  • @PARKERBROTHERSPLUMBING
    @PARKERBROTHERSPLUMBING 3 роки тому

    Unfortunately looking For an alternative to Milwaukee their batteries are a struggle to remove. I have to use A prybar with every battery and almost every tool including the chargers to remove them.

  • @ucitymetalhead
    @ucitymetalhead 6 років тому +1

    good point though hopefully they have a two pack of 5 amp batteries at some point.

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  6 років тому +1

      They do have a 2 pack, but not in stores at the depots I’ve been to! Gotta look online!

  • @TheJankoid
    @TheJankoid 5 років тому +1

    And now a year later you can get a 2 pack of the 5.0 batteries for $130.

    • @PowerScissor
      @PowerScissor 5 років тому

      ....and they contain about $30 worth of lithium cells at wholesale price, so with their bulk orders they are probably paying $10

  • @coreyandtey4106
    @coreyandtey4106 5 років тому

    What a genius!!! A 3 amp hour battery against a 5 amp hour battery .......

  • @flytheedge
    @flytheedge 6 років тому +5

    But with the 5.0Ah battery, aren't you getting more torque?

    • @court2379
      @court2379 5 років тому

      Only if the smaller battery couldn't supply enough. The voltage is fixed and the load resistance shouldn't change, so the power demand would not change. If the small battery could not supply enough current to meet the demand, then yes the bigger one would out perform it. I would guess that is not the case though and the bigger one would simply last longer.

    • @salvadordollyparton666
      @salvadordollyparton666 5 років тому

      You always have a tradeoff with 18650 cells, which is what these battery packs are built with. 10 total, 2 paralell sets of 5 in series. The smaller packs just have 5 in series to get the same 18-20 volts but not having the other set run in paralell, they lose mah. When you build an 18650 cell, you can either have very high drain, capable of producing 20-30 amps each at 3.5-4.2 volts depending on charge rate, or you can have one with more capacity (mah- miliamp hours) makita batteries used Sony cells, which are hybrid chemistry and have lower internal resistance and you get higher output but with still decent battery life. Millwaukee uses samsung, from what I can tell from my batteries without completely tearing them appart. They seem to get hot when under high load and shut off until they cool down. But you lose a bit of the high drain ability with more ah, which doesn't necessarily mean you'll get much longer run time. If the batteries are stressed, a lot of power is lost as heat. And heat is also just NOT good for lithium cells, or fast charging. Better to charge longer at a lower rate, which produces less heat and gives longer battery life. This is all just gimmicky to sell more batteries, yes some tools will work better and longer with different ah battery packs. But when no one understands the real difference, it's more just a gimmick. You can have cells with really high mah ratings, but they lose that ability to produce 20 or 30 amps without frying, or worse.

    • @salvadordollyparton666
      @salvadordollyparton666 5 років тому

      So actually, you get MORE torque from lower ah packs. In theory, anyway. Without having exact cell specs can't really say for certain, but when you raise the capacity you lose amps.

  • @ruggiero1371
    @ruggiero1371 4 роки тому

    You cannot judge battery this way number 1 it's not under load and number 2 the 2 batteries have different cell technology And over the course of charging them and using them some of the cells will be Operate different get 2 brand new Batteries And run the test again and you will see that The test will come out completely different

  • @colemayes443
    @colemayes443 6 років тому +1

    It depends the tool your running also, in my 1' fuel sds it takes at least a 4.0 to get the full performance.

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  6 років тому

      Ahhh, you given us an idea for a video!! Thanks we appreciate it!!!

    • @colemayes443
      @colemayes443 6 років тому

      Also my buddy has the hole hawg and he says it loses power on anything below a 4.0

    • @jayrife5949
      @jayrife5949 6 років тому +2

      my hole hawg over heats 4.0 and 5.0 batteries, 3.0 cant really even be used when it in high. but slap a 9.0 on it the tool is a beast. you are correct needs load.

    • @dmgprelude23
      @dmgprelude23 6 років тому

      I use a 7/8 sds daily and I'll only put a 5.0 battery in it.

  • @lproachg23
    @lproachg23 3 роки тому

    What I'd like to know is does the bigger battery have more power. As in does it bog down less and cut faster

    • @lproachg23
      @lproachg23 3 роки тому

      Also does it make a difference under a load

  • @Ichibat
    @Ichibat 5 років тому

    Milwaukee performance tools is superb but when u accidentally drop it the first thing will break is the battery terminal because it is made of brittle plastic

  • @nickruscigno3633
    @nickruscigno3633 2 роки тому

    HELLO SIR, I HAVE A M18 MILWAUKEE CIRCULAR SAW. I USE THE BASIC BATTERIES ON IT AND IT LASTS FOR A FEW MINUTES. MIND YOU I ONLY USE THIS TOOL TO CUT DOWN PALLETES AND WOOD CRATES. THE BATTERIES DIE IN A FEW MINUTES AND CONSTANTLY STOP WORKING. WHICH BATTERIES SHOULD I BUY?

  • @kevindunne513
    @kevindunne513 6 років тому

    I always get my batteries with my kits. Which normally are 5.0. You're crazy if you think buy batteries alone is any sort of a good deal!

  • @lunch6360
    @lunch6360 6 років тому

    Being a tradesman that owns 2x3ah 2x4ah 2x5ah and 1x9ah Milwaukee batteries, I can tell you that bigger is better, under load there is no comparison, my 3ah and 4ah batteries are only used in my radio now
    ( unless the task is minor and the 5’s and 9 are being used ) the 5ah and 9ah do all the heavy lifting:
    drills
    impact drivers
    1/2 inch ratchet drivers
    grinders
    reciprocating saws
    circular saws
    His opinion of buying 2 batteries is a good 1 but when you buy 2 weak batteries and you drain both before the first 1 has had the time to recharge, it’s kinda pointless.
    Buy the cheap batteries if you must but if you intend on using your tools for more than just a demonstration in a foam box, lash out and buy 2 stronger batteries..
    I’m not saying you need 9ah, the 5ah are awesom but I wouldn’t go lower than 4ah..
    You can never have too many batteries 😎

  • @mrbill3576
    @mrbill3576 6 років тому +1

    Love my red tools I use the heck out of them and have simply jumped ahead of the game and bought all 90ah they are crazy and last a very long time

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  6 років тому +1

      The 9.0 are nice!! We have a few. Cant wait to see the 12s

    • @mrbill3576
      @mrbill3576 6 років тому +1

      VCG Construction this 12 thing sounds crazy I hope they come out now

  • @mattwalden9402
    @mattwalden9402 6 років тому

    Depends on the tool dude.... my 9 amp battery replaced 3 5 amp batteries.....

  • @architecturehappy
    @architecturehappy 4 роки тому

    i wish all reviews were this straight forward - great job !

  • @chrispysnap6249
    @chrispysnap6249 5 років тому

    Should you wait till the battery goes dead before charging ?

  • @BRo-qx4xm
    @BRo-qx4xm 4 роки тому +2

    Love the videos! Welp in my case I own (12) m18 batteries. I carry them in truck and alternate them.

  • @CL9_Lobster
    @CL9_Lobster 3 роки тому

    Home depot has sale rn, m18 8.0 high output and 3.0 high output (2 pack) for 169

  • @dennisboyer8309
    @dennisboyer8309 5 років тому

    I have the M18 10 inch miter saw. Will the 5.0 wdrive the saw as a back up

  • @kirbyman1kanden7pf
    @kirbyman1kanden7pf 4 роки тому +1

    the foam molds are smart

  • @94blockmarauders07
    @94blockmarauders07 6 років тому +1

    Yah bought the 9 amp for my 2 gen wet shock vac hopefully the new 12 amp fits

  • @Not_TyMo
    @Not_TyMo 6 років тому

    Run time is not the issue. Power delivery is the reason for buying the 5.0

  • @Ram-fv5ls
    @Ram-fv5ls 5 років тому +1

    I work on big job sites so I would want to carry the extra weight. Believe me everything adds up

  • @jordanwilcox4723
    @jordanwilcox4723 3 роки тому

    What is the is difference between the normal m18 5 amp battery and the m18 5 amp high demand battery please also would the normal m18 5 amp be fine for a grinder as i will not be using it all the time

  • @mitchjones2821
    @mitchjones2821 6 років тому +1

    My opinion, my XC’s are older than my 5.0’s. But I have noticeably more more under load with my 5.0’s. So it’s tough to base value on runtime alone. Doesn’t Milwaukee advertise more runtime and power with each step up in battery type? Like if you were cutting a yellow pine 2x12 with a saws-all with a fully charged XC, then with a fully charged 5.0, it’s crazy better with the5.0

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  6 років тому

      Our test under load may have in fact proved that! ua-cam.com/video/sb-cYbzSmH0/v-deo.html Check it out!

  • @migmog3060
    @migmog3060 6 років тому

    I got the m18 fuel hammer drill and impact driver for $449 and got a m18 fuel sawzall, 9.0amh battery and a flashlight for free

  • @cuts-ur-dck-off
    @cuts-ur-dck-off 5 років тому +5

    0:10 how did this guy know I was at homedepot looking at Milwaukee tools and planning to buy batteries for my Milwaukee power tools his probably right behind me oohh nooo

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  5 років тому

      👁c👁
      ---------- 😂🙀👁😂

    • @beefsupreme5291
      @beefsupreme5291 5 років тому +1

      the only smart way to buy Milwaukee batteries is with a tool. the battery if taken care of perfectly should last you half your adult life or 5 years everyday construction. buy the best battery kit with the tool(anytool) you can with the best sale price of the quarter.

  • @ThunderCat19D
    @ThunderCat19D 5 років тому

    Does the 5.0 give you not only more run time but more power as in torque

  • @853pipelife
    @853pipelife 5 років тому

    Bigger batteries provide more amperage = more power. Put those batts to a test under load.

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  5 років тому

      We have a video of these batteries under load

  • @HandyWyo
    @HandyWyo 6 років тому +4

    Channels like this fill in the gap largely left out by mainstream cable conglomerates and the failure of public funded tv to let people host shows. Thank you so much for everything you do.

    • @VCGConstruction
      @VCGConstruction  6 років тому

      Thank you for the support!! We love filling gapssss 😀😂

  • @williamwinn948
    @williamwinn948 6 років тому +1

    Love the 5.0 but the 9s are the best

  • @josephribecca5040
    @josephribecca5040 4 роки тому +1

    I love your mechanical explanations LOL

  • @macdoctor562
    @macdoctor562 5 років тому

    This isn't exactly fair, both are used batteries but are they used the same or is one newer than the other?

  • @Timothy-NH
    @Timothy-NH 4 роки тому +1

    As soon as I saw the video, my end thought was that with 2 batteries, you can have one charging while using the other.

  • @robertbutler1576
    @robertbutler1576 5 років тому

    Yeah, so how do they do under load ? You did not mention that the bigger battery will generate more torque .