Of course, we all learn how to count. I don't know who these "people" are suggesting that there's any other way to watch these, but I don't trust them! I actually do think that they exist/belong in order. I'd consider this one an "introduction" or overall concept... 2nd goes to money and power, economy, global, etc...3 is personal. I really feel they roll better in order, even though there is a bit of overlap of the themes I mentioned in each.
Not to be needlessly contrary, but most definitely DO do the 'other one' of part 2 (the acapella/poetry one on Brighton beach) after the lyric video. It's really something amazing in it's own right, and it's indicative of the wonder of his live acoustic versions of his own songs.
I saw Money Game Pt. 1 and my mind was blown. Rens way of painting a picture with his words is truly one of a kind. Part 2 is even better imo... And then there is part 3... Lets just say it transcends all of Rens work before in my opinion. The video was like a whole stage show on Broadway, the lyrics clever, the music amazing, the message behind it all sincere and deep. You are gonna love it!
Here's my take; along with factual statements made by Ren & others, on the messaging & performative aspects of Money Game Parts 1. Hope this helps you in absorbing the overall message Ren is portraying.✌❤ Part 1: Is in a similar format to Ren's Tale of Jenny & Screen & Hi Ren, which can be considered live performance pieces that are shot in 1 take.🤯 Ren has commented that this was his first attempt at this style of one take video production & it took them almost 180 takes to get this shot right especially with all the choreography & music involved. In essence, Ren is introducing everyone to all the hypocrisy in the west & the seeds that have been sown around the world that created this money game & how we all live blind to it daily, with a metaphorical money bag tied around our heads. 💰🤑💰Ren portrays the character of Judge, jury & executioner for those who are blinded by the money game & the corruption that steams from the greed of everyone involved in it. He even draws eyes on the bagman to help him see his own errors & that of society's. When Ren attempts to carry out the final death sentence, the bagman's eyes reflect back to Ren reveling his own complacency in this MG (Hold the mirror to ourselves, we're all part of this old money game). The end carries a double meaning, 1) like a Buddhist Monk Ren burns himself in effigy as a protest & 2) This act of burning represents how we are all, as a society, just dooming ourselves in the end. Like Ren's lyrics conveyed earlier (As the world turns, the whole world burns). Can't wait until you hear 2 & 3, but make sure you do the lyric version of MG 2 because the live is incomplete with only the last verse he was just rehearsing.
The people with their heads covered are part of the Money Game. Ren's character wants to punish them for their crimes, but he can't do it because he begins to realize he is just as guilty. The eyes, for me, let the captive see what's going on and also gives the victim more of a face that humanizes him and Ren finally realizes that he to has to be punished for being a part of the money game.
Love your reactions❤🔥. You pretty much got it with your interpretation of the lyrics. Good to see you back on the Ren train, looking forward to your reaction to the other 2 parts especially part 3 It will blow your mind🤯.
@@KoalityReactions I'd always do things in order, gives context. His new song 'back on 74' is great but it also hits home because it's so different to what he's done before
yes I am glad you are getting back to Ren you have so much to catch up on he just released a new one yesterday lol. Love your reactions. The answer to who is under the sheet is his band mate from the big push Romaine Axisa is his name I probably misspelled is name but it is close he has a channel on you tube also. By the way Chinchilla also released a new song today.
Ren is the master at saying so few words and getting complete meanings and ideas across. In other words what many people have to explain with paragraphs, Ren can summarize in a few words. Yes he packs a lot of words into some of these videos that explains what others would need a whole book to explain. That is a gift and a talent people don't really think about, I hear so few that can actually do it. See how many words I needed to explain that. 😆
Great reaction video.... The man playing the guitar is Ren's Band mate from - The Big Push - Romain Axisa (AMAZING GUITARIST and SINGER SONGWRITER) ..... I think Ren setting fire to himself is to symbolise that extreme change is needed by the powers that be. Therefore changing alot of the ways we run our countries/planet earth, and find a better way.... Thanks
great reaction, i see the masked guy is the oppressor, he draws eyes on him to say look we know what your doing but do you, he then decides to burn the oppressor but before he does he comes to the realisation that he himself is part of the money game and it is himself that is to blame, as a heads up on money game part 2, there is 2 vids, one live and the other a lyric vid, the live is good but for maximum effect watch the lyric vid , it is longer and more impactful than the live one.
Duuuuude, I actually love that. I pictured Ren as the oppressor because he was in control but I actually LOVE your interpretation!!! That’s gonna stay with me.
@@KoalityReactions i was about to comment the same. I think Ren said the hooded character represents the elite being held accountable (but i read that 3rd hand in other comment sections, so could be off lol)
I feel the eyeballs are an added visual commentary on how we dehumanize people...Romain is just another faceless person until Ren puts eyes on the bag which suddenly humanizes him...making Ren unable to carry through on hurting him.
I don't think I heard anyone mention that before, but it makes sense. I always wondered why Ren stopped dousing Romain at that point and turned the gas can on himself. It's like Ren is saying when you let some light in (the eye holes, the light of understanding or seeing how things really are), the whole system starts to break down. It's interesting that Romain held up his guitar as a defense. Yes--there's great power in music, as Ren has often said. 🤠
@@KoalityReactions . My take (after much thought) . Ren: Authority, The Establishment, Control, The System. Symbolically protected from the rain, the storm, by the poncho. . "The Figure": "Us". The Population, literally "playing along", obeying instructions. . Then we get to the Politics... (Written "Peak Trump", hence immigration, "freedom of speech" vs "hate", etc) . A reference to the political system, both sides working for their collective benefit. . "There's no Left, There's no Right.... In the middle, "we" sleep". . But what happens if the population realises what is happening? Gains "sight" (Eyes). . Then, those running the System have a dilemma. . "Burn" the population, or Systemic change/ collapse . The poncho removed, the system "burns" (Revolution!) . imo 😁 . Remember the line about the saint and the child..... . Remember the protection being removed. All will become clear, eventually. . (Suffice to say, these *are not* "stand alone" pieces. Maybe when part 1 was written, possibly part 2.... But..... Part 3? Certainly not)
Oh my goodness I can’t wait ‘til you see Back on 74/Message in a Bottle Retake. It’s DEFINITELY not as in depth as any I’ve f the money game tracks are, but for whatever reason, I think you will really vibe to that one
who ever told you order dont mater did you dirty as there refrences to the first one in 2nd vid and kind of both first and 2nd in the 3rd , on the radio the order dont mater but videos do
This is my fav out of the 3, but the 3rd one is visually amazing and always brilliant ...well...because it's Ren!, he just released a new vid too. 😊, all his videos are like mini movies, he would be such a great dramatic actor!
My take on the ending of the music vídeo is that when he says "the whole world burns" he also talking about the opressor world, so when greed makes the whole burn, he is burning himself too.
Great reaction. You put in a lot of work to make sense of this video. It's the most ambiguous in the series. Maybe the eyes drawn on "sack man" represent our distorted perception from inside the money game, based on the lines "our opinions aren't our own and we follow like sheep - there's no left, there's no right, in the middle we sleep". I think the money sack over people's heads represents the money game itself (i.e. the game of power, wealth, and status, with scores tracked in units of money). I suggest reacting to "Crucify Your Culture" and "All My Life" after "Money Game, Pt. 2". They're related to the series, and sack man shows up again. Then finish with "Money Game, Pt. 3".
Ooh noted! I think someone else linked the specific videos in another comment so I’ll write this all down. And I love that interpretation! Very similar to what I was thinking with them controlling what you see (or think).
My take, after multiple views, is that by drawing on the eyes he opened our eyes, and that allowed us to see, and block what was happening. The world still burns.
The wind blowing was more happen stance than hidden meaning. It does emphasize that this was a live one take… filmed near the beach. // While Ren’s immense talent is on display, this video is also a testament to the passion & hard work his team puts into their work as this video took countless takes before they finally landed this final take.
With Ren everything is open to interpretation, he purposely leaves open every door and gives multiple meanings to his choices. For example he’s been asked many times what’s the pig’s meaning and he always answers something like: whatever means to you 🙂 Funny fact he says it took something like 137 takes to shoot this video, just to say that pretty nothing is casual…
I think there's a lot of room for interpretation in this one. The eyes, to me, are pretty close to the last thing you mentioned about them. Ren seems to be representing the oppressor with his actions, but also acting as a narrator with his words. The eyes, as I interpret them, represent the opening of our own eyes as the oppressed. He's enlightening us as individuals with this song, so it could be that. I also think it's commentary on us collectively opening our eyes since it seems we're becoming more aware as a society of what's going on, and also becoming increasingly more vocal about how we feel about it. This one is so good, and so rich with symbolism for us to interpret for ourselves! A lot of Ren's music is like that, though. So personal to him, but written in a way that gives us room to interpret it in light of our own experiences. *Edited for formating
Yes, so well said! I totally agree. My favourite part about art is that you can interpret it based on your own feelings and experiences. But I definitely saw it the way you did! A few people commented about the masked figure being the oppressor, and Ren representing the oppressed which was so interesting and totally flipped the script for me. I can see it both ways now! Very cool.
I understand your frustration of wanting to balance giving a genuine first watch, initial reaction WITH your own desire to give a more nuanced impression after giving a performance time to sit and/or multiple watches. 🙏🏻 To that end, maybe consider filming yourself watching straight through the first time to catch your Initial response… and if something warrants further consideration simple state you are pausing. Then when you come back after time to think or additional watches, you can simple tack on the second half of your reaction. It’s also possible to add time codes in your video description to delineate the sections. Either way… my perspective is you are already providing personal insights. Yet the mort comfortable you are not feeling “put on the spot” the easier your own self judgement might be. (hug)
Fun fact - it took about 185 takes to nail it. I believe he's wearing a money sack on his head, symbolizing being enslaved by money literally, and perhaps he's patronizing him until he realizes he's part of the problem himself.
I'm *thinking* that you've got it backwards. Ren is Ren. The captive is a player in the Money Game (you'll see why I think that when you see Part 3). The Money Game is about greed, not oppression. So, why does Ren back off and do himself instead? Because he's realised that he's a player too.
As a recovering perfectionist I try to remind myself that the perfect is the enemy of the good. Your reaction was very good-REN is not meant for just one listen ❤
Oh my gosh thank you for saying this! I feel like other perfectionists really get it. I struggle with it more on certain things, but I’m definitely trying to let it go in all areas! And I agree, Ren requires more than one listen anyway. 🤍
I think the eyeballs say you can "see" so you are responsible but then "Point the mirror at ourselves, Ren, We're all part of this old Money Game.I may be wrong.
The thing about Ren is there are absolute themes and parts that are completely open to interpretation, deliberately. I think u threaded that needle well, and identified both with extreme intelligence, trust your instincts and should be fine!!
As you mentioned it, it's almost impossible to catch everything in the first time. I don't think it's the best thing to make too many pause because you can just try to guess. Watch it, then give your interpretation. Reading many comments on different reaction channels, we like to see your emotions watching it for the first time because every time it's between a slap in the face to an uppercut from Myke Tyson ! 😜 Then it's time to tell us what you felt, thought...at different time. And even for you it's better, because every time it's a different experience to watch Ren and Sam work. Just my opinion...no big deal, I still like your reaction anyway 😉
So the way i have seen the symbolism in the video its Ren and the Hostage and Ren is tying to explain to the Hostage the Game. The Hostage is not just Ren's hostage but a hostage to the Money Game and as the song goes on he humanizes the Hostage with eyes but also the hostage becomes aware of the Money Game after it is explained. The hood also staying on shows that he is still stuck in the Money Game and beholden to it but at least aware. Ren not pouring the gas on the Hostage comes from the humanization and Ren internalizing that he is also part of the Money Game. That's just how i interpreted it.
What was the fuel about? It builds to a metaphor.... But initially I think it's about the blame, frustration and wanting to burn down a greedy broken system. But... _"We're ALL part of this old money game"_ and _"It's easier to blame, but point the mirror at ourselves..."_ ... WE!... OURSELVES!... He's saying that you can try to burn it down, but at the end of the day you're just as much a part of it as those you might 'blame' It ain't the money... it ain't the immigrants... it ain't the docile masses... it ain't even those in power... it's ALL of us. And whoever or whatever we'd prefer to lay blame on, isn't helpful. I believe he draws the eyes because throughout the piece he's desperately trying to wake us all up... the hood represents the sleeping masses. He wants to make us see the game. Let us see that we're complacent, we're responsible, we're part of this eff'd up greedy world. It exists BECAUSE of us and our inaction. But... for all his frustration with the sleeping and complicit masses, he knows that he too is a part of it. So, who is HE to get angry at others? It is ALL of us. But it's also him. The end sequence appears to be the stark realisation that he/us is to blame. That's how I understood it. It seems to be about how we unjustly externalise frustration and blame. And, in doing so, we commit violence - real or conceptual, against others. For me, the ending appears to be a nod to Thích Quảng Đuc ... a Buddhist monk who committed suicide by ritual immolation, in a busy street in Saigon, to protest persecution of Buddhists. His selfless act lit the touchpaper which ultimately toppled the S. Vietnamese regime. But if this IS a nod to TQD, then I'm not sure how it fits in - other than as a shorthand for powerful yet selfless acts that can bring about change. Such acts needn't be violent ... they can be as small as giving a smile to a stranger. But in this, the world is changed - even if just one heart at a time. Just my 2c, I may be way off. Anyway, great reaction!
When you do part 2 make sure you do the lyrics video not the live version. The only live version is actually only about half the song. The lyirc video is the full song ans its so much better quality.
The person in the chair represents a capitalist avatar on trial for the money game, and as Ren's character is about to punish him, he realizes that he is just as guilty.
personally, i feel like ren is playing the part of judge and romain represents the system. when he puts eyes to the system he realizes he can't destroy it so burns himself as a protest (like the monk emulations of the 70's).
So close... If you shift your perception that ren is the repressor to Judge/Jury/Executioner then you will soon realise that the person in the chair is society blinded by the money game (money bag over head). Ren confronts society with a list of crimes but each time he goes to judgement and execution (rope, hand gun, bat, petrol) he is reminded that 'we're all part of this old money game' finally he tries to open the eyes of society. But this humanises society and he has no choice but to judge and execute himself.
For me drawing the eyes represents giving the masked player the ability to see he is playing the Money Game. Yet, the player then continues to play the Money Game tune, so Ren decides to burn him. Then, turning the mirror at himself, Ren realizes he’s still part of the Money Game, so the only way out is to burn himself in protest of the Money Game, the way Buddhist monks did in Vietnam, in protest of the war and losing their freedom to practice their faith.
The end is representative of the Tibet monks that sat down legs crossed in meditation and then poured fuel on themselves and lit themselves on fire in protest to the Chinese tyrannical government. There are famous photos in time magazine of these monks completely calm yet completely on fire and dying.Rage against the machine used that same famous photo on the cover of their first album. It was a horrible and true event that happened
Bag man represents society (I think) lol It started in "Crucify your culture" Draws eyes as open societies eyes then burning it down but realizes that wont work so burns self as a cleans. That's my basic interpretation.
Yeah! But he does live performances in a lot of his videos, and there isn’t always a ton of ambient noise. Plus when you process the sound afterwards, there are ways to eliminate that noise etc. So it felt more deliberate to me, that’s all!
So the affect isn't added it was recorded live. Also historically he is wrong Rome didn't colonise Britain they colonised England and Wales they tried to colonise scotland but kept failing that why there is a wall called hadrians wall
The guy on the chair is Romain Axisa. He is as well a very good musician and a good friend of Ren. He had played with Ren in the band The Big Push
I Guess she meant who’s representing Romain, not who he is literally 🙂
@@AlexG-qv8ri I took it to mean she wants to know who the guy in the sheet is, not who he represents.
Thank you! Yes, I wanted to know who the actual person was!
Ok, no problem, I’m curious to see if she goes deep down the rabbit hole as we obviously did 🙂@@patrickquinlan3056
The big push has some great stuff! I would suggest checking them out!
def do them in order - and make sure to do the lyric video for Part 2 - not the other one
Agree. The “live” video misses half the song so lyric version for sure!
Of course, we all learn how to count. I don't know who these "people" are suggesting that there's any other way to watch these, but I don't trust them!
I actually do think that they exist/belong in order. I'd consider this one an "introduction" or overall concept... 2nd goes to money and power, economy, global, etc...3 is personal. I really feel they roll better in order, even though there is a bit of overlap of the themes I mentioned in each.
Not to be needlessly contrary, but most definitely DO do the 'other one' of part 2 (the acapella/poetry one on Brighton beach) after the lyric video. It's really something amazing in it's own right, and it's indicative of the wonder of his live acoustic versions of his own songs.
I saw Money Game Pt. 1 and my mind was blown. Rens way of painting a picture with his words is truly one of a kind. Part 2 is even better imo... And then there is part 3... Lets just say it transcends all of Rens work before in my opinion. The video was like a whole stage show on Broadway, the lyrics clever, the music amazing, the message behind it all sincere and deep. You are gonna love it!
Ahhh can’t wait!!! 😍
2 Is "Different", not "better"
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1 Is "the system.
2 Is the method.
3 Is a metaphor
I can't WAIT for you to get to Part 3!
That was my introduction to Ren and it blew my mind!!
I hope you found the start. I honestly hope there will be no end
Here's my take; along with factual statements made by Ren & others, on the messaging & performative aspects of Money Game Parts 1. Hope this helps you in absorbing the overall message Ren is portraying.✌❤
Part 1: Is in a similar format to Ren's Tale of Jenny & Screen & Hi Ren, which can be considered live performance pieces that are shot in 1 take.🤯 Ren has commented that this was his first attempt at this style of one take video production & it took them almost 180 takes to get this shot right especially with all the choreography & music involved. In essence, Ren is introducing everyone to all the hypocrisy in the west & the seeds that have been sown around the world that created this money game & how we all live blind to it daily, with a metaphorical money bag tied around our heads. 💰🤑💰Ren portrays the character of Judge, jury & executioner for those who are blinded by the money game & the corruption that steams from the greed of everyone involved in it. He even draws eyes on the bagman to help him see his own errors & that of society's. When Ren attempts to carry out the final death sentence, the bagman's eyes reflect back to Ren reveling his own complacency in this MG (Hold the mirror to ourselves, we're all part of this old money game). The end carries a double meaning, 1) like a Buddhist Monk Ren burns himself in effigy as a protest & 2) This act of burning represents how we are all, as a society, just dooming ourselves in the end. Like Ren's lyrics conveyed earlier (As the world turns, the whole world burns). Can't wait until you hear 2 & 3, but make sure you do the lyric version of MG 2 because the live is incomplete with only the last verse he was just rehearsing.
So well put togueter , I second all of it
Just reading off a screen itself is so invigorating, just imagine REN spitting a million words and also in one take, what a Legend,,,
The people with their heads covered are part of the Money Game. Ren's character wants to punish them for their crimes, but he can't do it because he begins to realize he is just as guilty. The eyes, for me, let the captive see what's going on and also gives the victim more of a face that humanizes him and Ren finally realizes that he to has to be punished for being a part of the money game.
Whoever told you not to watch them in order is a nutcake. Trust your instincts.
Love your reactions❤🔥. You pretty much got it with your interpretation of the lyrics. Good to see you back on the Ren train, looking forward to your reaction to the other 2 parts especially part 3 It will blow your mind🤯.
Awe thank you!! Yeah I can’t wait either. Plus he just released a new one! 💥
@@KoalityReactions I'd always do things in order, gives context. His new song 'back on 74' is great but it also hits home because it's so different to what he's done before
yes I am glad you are getting back to Ren you have so much to catch up on he just released a new one yesterday lol. Love your reactions. The answer to who is under the sheet is his band mate from the big push Romaine Axisa is his name I probably misspelled is name but it is close he has a channel on you tube also. By the way Chinchilla also released a new song today.
I actually saw as I was uploading this video that Ren released a new song, and I was like oh darn!!!! Ahahaha I’m so behind.
Colonizing was a way to gain fortune, be it for copper, gold, cobalt, rubber and even people for slavery. So it ties perfectly in this masterpiece.
Yeah! I said he talks about other things but they all tie in. He’s so good.
I've seen this a hundred times and never noticed the guitar is what stopped the gas can. Great catch!
Ren is the master at saying so few words and getting complete meanings and ideas across. In other words what many people have to explain with paragraphs, Ren can summarize in a few words. Yes he packs a lot of words into some of these videos that explains what others would need a whole book to explain. That is a gift and a talent people don't really think about, I hear so few that can actually do it. See how many words I needed to explain that. 😆
Thank you for doing them as 1,2 and 3. They all have something in common. Part 2 is far better as a lyric video
Great reaction video.... The man playing the guitar is Ren's Band mate from - The Big Push - Romain Axisa (AMAZING GUITARIST and SINGER SONGWRITER) ..... I think Ren setting fire to himself is to symbolise that extreme change is needed by the powers that be. Therefore changing alot of the ways we run our countries/planet earth, and find a better way.... Thanks
Extreme change. Love that!
great reaction, i see the masked guy is the oppressor, he draws eyes on him to say look we know what your doing but do you, he then decides to burn the oppressor but before he does he comes to the realisation that he himself is part of the money game and it is himself that is to blame, as a heads up on money game part 2, there is 2 vids, one live and the other a lyric vid, the live is good but for maximum effect watch the lyric vid , it is longer and more impactful than the live one.
Duuuuude, I actually love that. I pictured Ren as the oppressor because he was in control but I actually LOVE your interpretation!!! That’s gonna stay with me.
@@KoalityReactions i was about to comment the same. I think Ren said the hooded character represents the elite being held accountable (but i read that 3rd hand in other comment sections, so could be off lol)
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YOU were right.
I feel the eyeballs are an added visual commentary on how we dehumanize people...Romain is just another faceless person until Ren puts eyes on the bag which suddenly humanizes him...making Ren unable to carry through on hurting him.
Oh wow… yeah. I love that. Damn.
I don't think I heard anyone mention that before, but it makes sense. I always wondered why Ren stopped dousing Romain at that point and turned the gas can on himself. It's like Ren is saying when you let some light in (the eye holes, the light of understanding or seeing how things really are), the whole system starts to break down. It's interesting that Romain held up his guitar as a defense. Yes--there's great power in music, as Ren has often said. 🤠
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My take (after much thought)
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Ren: Authority, The Establishment, Control, The System.
Symbolically protected from the rain, the storm, by the poncho.
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"The Figure": "Us". The Population, literally "playing along", obeying instructions.
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Then we get to the Politics... (Written "Peak Trump", hence immigration, "freedom of speech" vs "hate", etc)
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A reference to the political system, both sides working for their collective benefit.
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"There's no Left, There's no Right.... In the middle, "we" sleep".
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But what happens if the population realises what is happening? Gains "sight"
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Then, those running the System have a dilemma.
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"Burn" the population,
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Systemic change/ collapse
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The poncho removed, the system "burns"
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imo 😁
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Remember the line about the saint and the child.....
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Remember the protection being removed.
All will become clear, eventually.
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(Suffice to say, these *are not* "stand alone" pieces.
Maybe when part 1 was written, possibly part 2.... But..... Part 3? Certainly not)
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Romain is "us"
@@rogerstarkey5390 Yes, agreed.
thank you for continuing to react and support my favourite artist ever so looking forward to part 3 it's a masterpiece ❤❤
Yes, I think the eyes are him opening people's eyes.
I watched Money Game 1 and 2 when I started my Ren journey, so it's cool to revisit them. Still, my favorite is part 3. Great reaction.
Thank you! I can’t wait for the others now, eep! 👀
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Bothe versions of part 2.
Lyric video first, then the Beach rap
I saw this video more than one thousand times. Enjoy it, you won't regret it 🤘🏼🎶
Others have mentioned but just adding to it: make sure to do the lyric video for part 2! (the live version only has one verse)
Great reaction enjoyed your analysis. Thanks ❤ Edited to sub and follow your Ren journey down the rabbit hole.
Oh my goodness I can’t wait ‘til you see Back on 74/Message in a Bottle Retake. It’s DEFINITELY not as in depth as any I’ve f the money game tracks are, but for whatever reason, I think you will really vibe to that one
Oooh, really? I feel like this is the first I’m hearing that too! Very excited.
@@KoalityReactions I think it's the best thing he's done, because it's Ren expanding his repertoire and it's my groove
Great reaction ❤ I would say do them in order! So many bits echo in each one.😊
The "wind" sound is actually the sound of rain outside.
The lyrical density of his writing impresses me every listen. Like you said, "not preachy" and i just vibe with his sound design as a whole.
who ever told you order dont mater did you dirty as there refrences to the first one in 2nd vid and kind of both first and 2nd in the 3rd , on the radio the order dont mater but videos do
I just seen your reaction. And love Ren and I think you are wonderful mate. And can't wait for the next one. Much love
I'm so with YOU
Please also do Ren's 'Crucify your culture'. Similar subject and great as most of his stuff x
This is my fav out of the 3, but the 3rd one is visually amazing and always brilliant ...well...because it's Ren!, he just released a new vid too. 😊, all his videos are like mini movies, he would be such a great dramatic actor!
My take on the ending of the music vídeo is that when he says "the whole world burns" he also talking about the opressor world, so when greed makes the whole burn, he is burning himself too.
now you gotta react to Romain..
awesome reaction
Great reaction. You put in a lot of work to make sense of this video. It's the most ambiguous in the series. Maybe the eyes drawn on "sack man" represent our distorted perception from inside the money game, based on the lines "our opinions aren't our own and we follow like sheep - there's no left, there's no right, in the middle we sleep". I think the money sack over people's heads represents the money game itself (i.e. the game of power, wealth, and status, with scores tracked in units of money). I suggest reacting to "Crucify Your Culture" and "All My Life" after "Money Game, Pt. 2". They're related to the series, and sack man shows up again. Then finish with "Money Game, Pt. 3".
Ooh noted! I think someone else linked the specific videos in another comment so I’ll write this all down. And I love that interpretation! Very similar to what I was thinking with them controlling what you see (or think).
My take, after multiple views, is that by drawing on the eyes he opened our eyes, and that allowed us to see, and block what was happening. The world still burns.
The wind blowing was more happen stance than hidden meaning. It does emphasize that this was a live one take… filmed near the beach. // While Ren’s immense talent is on display, this video is also a testament to the passion & hard work his team puts into their work as this video took countless takes before they finally landed this final take.
People who tell you you don't have to do them in order and talking out of their arses. Always follow Ren's numbering, they are numbered for a reason.
With Ren everything is open to interpretation, he purposely leaves open every door and gives multiple meanings to his choices.
For example he’s been asked many times what’s the pig’s meaning and he always answers something like: whatever means to you 🙂
Funny fact he says it took something like 137 takes to shoot this video, just to say that pretty nothing is casual…
Sam, the videographer said 183 cos it was their first time performing in one take.
LOL, I hear a different number from different sources, anyways it was a sh*t load of work for sure 🤣@@JoH4LH44
Great reaction as always. In part 2 you have to pick the lyric video. The live version only give you one verse of the song.
Okay, shall do! Thank you!
That's a money bag over the head of the guitar player
I think there's a lot of room for interpretation in this one. The eyes, to me, are pretty close to the last thing you mentioned about them. Ren seems to be representing the oppressor with his actions, but also acting as a narrator with his words.
The eyes, as I interpret them, represent the opening of our own eyes as the oppressed. He's enlightening us as individuals with this song, so it could be that. I also think it's commentary on us collectively opening our eyes since it seems we're becoming more aware as a society of what's going on, and also becoming increasingly more vocal about how we feel about it.
This one is so good, and so rich with symbolism for us to interpret for ourselves! A lot of Ren's music is like that, though. So personal to him, but written in a way that gives us room to interpret it in light of our own experiences.
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Yes, so well said! I totally agree. My favourite part about art is that you can interpret it based on your own feelings and experiences. But I definitely saw it the way you did! A few people commented about the masked figure being the oppressor, and Ren representing the oppressed which was so interesting and totally flipped the script for me. I can see it both ways now! Very cool.
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Waiting for pt 2 and 3
I understand your frustration of wanting to balance giving a genuine first watch, initial reaction WITH your own desire to give a more nuanced impression after giving a performance time to sit and/or multiple watches. 🙏🏻
To that end, maybe consider filming yourself watching straight through the first time to catch your Initial response… and if something warrants further consideration simple state you are pausing. Then when you come back after time to think or additional watches, you can simple tack on the second half of your reaction.
It’s also possible to add time codes in your video description to delineate the sections.
Either way… my perspective is you are already providing personal insights. Yet the mort comfortable you are not feeling “put on the spot” the easier your own self judgement might be.
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No added effects, this was recorded live in one take. The “effects” were natural ambient noises.
Fun fact - it took about 185 takes to nail it. I believe he's wearing a money sack on his head, symbolizing being enslaved by money literally, and perhaps he's patronizing him until he realizes he's part of the problem himself.
He couldn’t see a gun to his head or a baseball bat. Then he has to watch.
I'm *thinking* that you've got it backwards. Ren is Ren. The captive is a player in the Money Game (you'll see why I think that when you see Part 3). The Money Game is about greed, not oppression. So, why does Ren back off and do himself instead? Because he's realised that he's a player too.
16:54 the eyes that he has drawn are meant to look like sheep's eyes.
As a recovering perfectionist I try to remind myself that the perfect is the enemy of the good. Your reaction was very good-REN is not meant for just one listen ❤
Oh my gosh thank you for saying this! I feel like other perfectionists really get it. I struggle with it more on certain things, but I’m definitely trying to let it go in all areas! And I agree, Ren requires more than one listen anyway. 🤍
I think the eyeballs say you can "see" so you are responsible but then "Point the mirror at ourselves, Ren, We're all part of this old Money Game.I may be wrong.
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The thing about Ren is there are absolute themes and parts that are completely open to interpretation, deliberately. I think u threaded that needle well, and identified both with extreme intelligence, trust your instincts and should be fine!!
That’s so kind!! I don’t trust myself at all, so there’s the problem. 😅😂 Appreciate you! 🤍
As you mentioned it, it's almost impossible to catch everything in the first time. I don't think it's the best thing to make too many pause because you can just try to guess. Watch it, then give your interpretation. Reading many comments on different reaction channels, we like to see your emotions watching it for the first time because every time it's between a slap in the face to an uppercut from Myke Tyson ! 😜
Then it's time to tell us what you felt, thought...at different time. And even for you it's better, because every time it's a different experience to watch Ren and Sam work.
Just my opinion...no big deal, I still like your reaction anyway 😉
ambient noise... recorded live at the shore... kinda under a boardwalk thing. noises are the waves breaking on the beach behind the bars...
The end; essentially Ren realizes we are *all* part of the money game. An echo of "Hi Ren" "Gotta kill you, if you want to kill me"
I don't think so.
Perhaps the oppressor, realizing he no longer has power, self destructed? Just a theory.
So the way i have seen the symbolism in the video its Ren and the Hostage and Ren is tying to explain to the Hostage the Game. The Hostage is not just Ren's hostage but a hostage to the Money Game and as the song goes on he humanizes the Hostage with eyes but also the hostage becomes aware of the Money Game after it is explained. The hood also staying on shows that he is still stuck in the Money Game and beholden to it but at least aware. Ren not pouring the gas on the Hostage comes from the humanization and Ren internalizing that he is also part of the Money Game.
That's just how i interpreted it.
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you should Do Ren back on 74 /message in a bottle retake
Apparently this toke more than 150 takes!
Damn. 👀
you should also react too Ren Seven sins
What was the fuel about? It builds to a metaphor.... But initially I think it's about the blame, frustration and wanting to burn down a greedy broken system. But... _"We're ALL part of this old money game"_ and _"It's easier to blame, but point the mirror at ourselves..."_ ... WE!... OURSELVES!... He's saying that you can try to burn it down, but at the end of the day you're just as much a part of it as those you might 'blame'
It ain't the money... it ain't the immigrants... it ain't the docile masses... it ain't even those in power... it's ALL of us. And whoever or whatever we'd prefer to lay blame on, isn't helpful.
I believe he draws the eyes because throughout the piece he's desperately trying to wake us all up... the hood represents the sleeping masses. He wants to make us see the game. Let us see that we're complacent, we're responsible, we're part of this eff'd up greedy world. It exists BECAUSE of us and our inaction. But... for all his frustration with the sleeping and complicit masses, he knows that he too is a part of it. So, who is HE to get angry at others? It is ALL of us. But it's also him. The end sequence appears to be the stark realisation that he/us is to blame.
That's how I understood it.
It seems to be about how we unjustly externalise frustration and blame. And, in doing so, we commit violence - real or conceptual, against others.
For me, the ending appears to be a nod to Thích Quảng Đuc ... a Buddhist monk who committed suicide by ritual immolation, in a busy street in Saigon, to protest persecution of Buddhists. His selfless act lit the touchpaper which ultimately toppled the S. Vietnamese regime. But if this IS a nod to TQD, then I'm not sure how it fits in - other than as a shorthand for powerful yet selfless acts that can bring about change.
Such acts needn't be violent ... they can be as small as giving a smile to a stranger. But in this, the world is changed - even if just one heart at a time.
Just my 2c, I may be way off.
Anyway, great reaction!
Plato, Socrates, Shakespeare, Chaucer, Dillon, 2Pac and now Ren.
When you do part 2 make sure you do the lyrics video not the live version. The only live version is actually only about half the song. The lyirc video is the full song ans its so much better quality.
The person in the chair represents a capitalist avatar on trial for the money game, and as Ren's character is about to punish him, he realizes that he is just as guilty.
personally, i feel like ren is playing the part of judge and romain represents the system. when he puts eyes to the system he realizes he can't destroy it so burns himself as a protest (like the monk emulations of the 70's).
Yes! Someone else has this view too and I really love that version. I can totally see that now too!
Completely the opposite.
REN: System
Romain: population.
Ending: The system burns..... Revolution!
So close... If you shift your perception that ren is the repressor to Judge/Jury/Executioner then you will soon realise that the person in the chair is society blinded by the money game (money bag over head). Ren confronts society with a list of crimes but each time he goes to judgement and execution (rope, hand gun, bat, petrol) he is reminded that 'we're all part of this old money game' finally he tries to open the eyes of society. But this humanises society and he has no choice but to judge and execute himself.
For me drawing the eyes represents giving the masked player the ability to see he is playing the Money Game. Yet, the player then continues to play the Money Game tune, so Ren decides to burn him. Then, turning the mirror at himself, Ren realizes he’s still part of the Money Game, so the only way out is to burn himself in protest of the Money Game, the way Buddhist monks did in Vietnam, in protest of the war and losing their freedom to practice their faith.
The end is representative of the Tibet monks that sat down legs crossed in meditation and then poured fuel on themselves and lit themselves on fire in protest to the Chinese tyrannical government. There are famous photos in time magazine of these monks completely calm yet completely on fire and dying.Rage against the machine used that same famous photo on the cover of their first album. It was a horrible and true event that happened
Bag man represents society (I think) lol
It started in "Crucify your culture"
Draws eyes as open societies eyes then burning it down but realizes that wont work so burns self as a cleans.
That's my basic interpretation.
Totally! That’s sort of how I saw it too.
Try this.
Listen to Pink Floyd. Money.
Then.
The Who. Won't get fooled again.
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Then watch this again.
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Trust me, in a few years’ time there will be colleges given on university to dissect Ren’s lyrics and visuals. 😊😂
Use the lyric video for MG part 2 please, much better than the live one. Thank you ♥
The ambient sounds like wind, etc. are natural because he is mic'd up. This is a live performance. 🤷♂️
Yeah! But he does live performances in a lot of his videos, and there isn’t always a ton of ambient noise. Plus when you process the sound afterwards, there are ways to eliminate that noise etc. So it felt more deliberate to me, that’s all!
@@KoalityReactions This one is older so he probably didn't have as high quality equipement available to him. Wait until you see MG3! 🤯
Definitely do the lyric video for MG2, not the spoken live version.
When you do Part 2, You want the official Lyric version, NOT the Live version.
this is live and one take
Where's part 2 and 3?
Wait until 2 and 3
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Hey 👋 where'd you go? I like your reactions but you seem to have stopped 😕
So the affect isn't added it was recorded live. Also historically he is wrong Rome didn't colonise Britain they colonised England and Wales they tried to colonise scotland but kept failing that why there is a wall called hadrians wall
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