Nice video! A few points I'd like to add too: - Chiara is definitely one of the best (if not THE best) bruiser right now --- so much so that she got nerfed in just the first week of release. She can easily 1v3 thanks to her shields, her Q, her R resets and her built in sustain from R makes her extremely difficult to take down if your team is not coordinated. - I would argue that (Mai and) Leon, tonfa specifically, is/are support characters. Both characters are usually delegated to being healing wind bots thanks to the sheer amount of utility and zone control that they offer. Pair Mai/Leon with any competent DPS and the team will steamroll. That said, glove Leon CAN pump out good damage if the player is skilled enough but playing a more supportive role allows Tonfa Leon to provide much value to the team. - As for tanks, I would probably replace Eleven with Estelle. Estelle effectively shuts down long ranged threats (Adina, Haze, etc.), can keep a teammate alive forever with ult + Violation Protocol, and her damage is nothing to be scoffed at. - I would classify Theodore (and to a lesser extent, Priya) as utility mages instead of supports... they both can squeeze out lots of damage while bringing tons of utility to the table. Johann is probably the only "true" ranged support. - As for melee assassins, instead of Echion, players can also consider pure attack-Red Sprite-Axe Jackie, and Daniel. Both are simple enough to play while having the ability completely obliterate their target. - As for the ranged mage DPS, I would argue that Hyejin is top-tier along with Adina simply because of the amount of utility, agency, and flexibility that her playstyle brings. She is not easily caught out of position, she has a good blink ability, AMAZING crowd control in her W, and her built in fear lets her control engages easily. She also pumps out damage like no tomorrow with her Q!
great points! there are so many characters that can fulfill similar niches in the game right now, which really goes to show how much thought NN put into balancing. i believe that chiara is kind of similar to DA echion where she’s more of a team check than anything. in my personal experience, she’s terrifying when i play low dps low cc characters, but seems made of paper when i play characters like eva or adina. i can definitely see what you mean though! leon and mai are definitely supportive characters! but leon is technically still able to comfortably 1v1 or even 1v2 certain characters and threaten them with good damage and generally builds a mix of tank and skill amp items. i think that interaction does barely classify him as a bruiser, which is why i put him there. a bruiser that shields, ccs, and is still bulky and threatening… estelle is definitely great! but i think many players are still experimenting with whether she is better played as a tank or skill amp mage. thats why i chose not to include her, when by tomorrow she might (kinda) lose her tank role for a mage melee burst role i agree that johann is the truest support in the game! i just felt obligated to slide in a few other characters so that he didnt automatically win and bait people into playing him. his main value is for auto attack comps, and plenty of people have been enjoying mages lately. i totally forgot about daniel for this video! i hadnt ran into him for a few days, but he’s definitely the best ad focused assassin. jackie is kind of similar to DA echion for me, where shes a great assassin against weak comps, but can be focused and destroyed instantly by good comps. definitely still a good choice though! not everyone can play their comps effectively hyejin definitely seems good, but i didnt consider her to be on the same level as adina since her rework for 1.0 took a lot away from her. i will have to try her out! thank you again for the comment! might steal a few things for video ideas when i start running out
@@myaaniflakes I can definitely see where you're going! It's a shame I haven't seen much DA Echions in our games over here in Asia. Most (if not all) just go pure tank Black Mamba vampiric bloodline. And yes, do try out Hyejin! I've been a Hyejin main(ish) in early access and was also worried that her utility and CC would tank, but no! Her W feels smooth to use and the rapid fire Qs + safety of her E makes her a terrifying DPS. Her R is just cherry on top as zone control tool. Do max Q>W>E>T and R whenever. Shuriken is a much easier weapon to play as it has access to Death Rune for hex damage and Frost Venom Dart which frees up Skadi's for other arm options!
I played in beta and understood how to play. Now i have no idea what to do in 1.0. Even full build or full gold, i do no damage and get 100-0 by a sneeze
the squads environment has definitely changed a good amount since beta. what character are you playing? it might be useful to check your replays and see whats happening
chiara does have a lot more healing and shielding, but it's probably much easier to feel your impact as elena as you freeze and mess with your opponents!
@@myaaniflakes yup i really like it when see enemies freezeout, also when i play as Chiara i really like whe the E skill connect and the enemy rooted overtime. Btw Will you make a video guide or you playing some character ?
@@rasisulhubbi9316 i might make character guides in the future! the reason why im not making any right now is because it's the preseason, so its possible that many of the "strong" characters that i've mentioned are nerfed by the time i make a guide im happy with :(
As a support Adina enjoyer I'm confused that you mentioned only her damage potential, kind of ignored amount of utility and cc she can use so it's kinda if you main Adina you can play both roles, being a support or dps Also, how about assasins? Like, they're not really hard and all, but still, btw for me twins(Debi and Marlene) are assasins, at least for now while there wasn't a balance patch yet Plus I'd put Nicky into frontline to master and Felix into bruiser category Overall, good vid
i mostly downplay adina's support potential because i experimented with her back when her heal was about 60-70% stronger! i cant deny that her support and sustain are still great, but her sun conjunct is so good, that it overshadows her potential support utility. she could easily be a support if she was rebalanced into one, but right now she's just much better as a damage dealer. the assassins class was supposed to be looped into the melee burst class, but i forgot that term while i was recording the video. nicky and felix are definitely classified as those roles! i just think their numbers are a bit too low to comfortably recommend to everyone.
@@myaaniflakes for sure,Adina's support potential could've been better,but i do think that she's the best at that role for me currently,since priya didn't really had one and john got hardly nerfed,and yet,don't forget that at least her heal depends on your allies too i mean adina threw her double star at you,there is no high damage skill shots or cc in a fight SO STAY IN THE HEAL BRO
@@chino200ms im happy to hear you chose such a fun character to play as support then! there's not much that's more satisfying than winning a fight and knowing you did everything great as adina. and yeah, allies walking outside the healing field is a pain. the only ones that stick around are the ones who experienced the +150hp ticks back when it was way stronger 😭
Just got back into the game after the 1.0 release, really enjoyed the video and subbed, looking forward to future content and enjoy your vacation!
Nice video! A few points I'd like to add too:
- Chiara is definitely one of the best (if not THE best) bruiser right now --- so much so that she got nerfed in just the first week of release. She can easily 1v3 thanks to her shields, her Q, her R resets and her built in sustain from R makes her extremely difficult to take down if your team is not coordinated.
- I would argue that (Mai and) Leon, tonfa specifically, is/are support characters. Both characters are usually delegated to being healing wind bots thanks to the sheer amount of utility and zone control that they offer. Pair Mai/Leon with any competent DPS and the team will steamroll. That said, glove Leon CAN pump out good damage if the player is skilled enough but playing a more supportive role allows Tonfa Leon to provide much value to the team.
- As for tanks, I would probably replace Eleven with Estelle. Estelle effectively shuts down long ranged threats (Adina, Haze, etc.), can keep a teammate alive forever with ult + Violation Protocol, and her damage is nothing to be scoffed at.
- I would classify Theodore (and to a lesser extent, Priya) as utility mages instead of supports... they both can squeeze out lots of damage while bringing tons of utility to the table. Johann is probably the only "true" ranged support.
- As for melee assassins, instead of Echion, players can also consider pure attack-Red Sprite-Axe Jackie, and Daniel. Both are simple enough to play while having the ability completely obliterate their target.
- As for the ranged mage DPS, I would argue that Hyejin is top-tier along with Adina simply because of the amount of utility, agency, and flexibility that her playstyle brings. She is not easily caught out of position, she has a good blink ability, AMAZING crowd control in her W, and her built in fear lets her control engages easily. She also pumps out damage like no tomorrow with her Q!
great points! there are so many characters that can fulfill similar niches in the game right now, which really goes to show how much thought NN put into balancing.
i believe that chiara is kind of similar to DA echion where she’s more of a team check than anything. in my personal experience, she’s terrifying when i play low dps low cc characters, but seems made of paper when i play characters like eva or adina. i can definitely see what you mean though!
leon and mai are definitely supportive characters! but leon is technically still able to comfortably 1v1 or even 1v2 certain characters and threaten them with good damage and generally builds a mix of tank and skill amp items. i think that interaction does barely classify him as a bruiser, which is why i put him there. a bruiser that shields, ccs, and is still bulky and threatening…
estelle is definitely great! but i think many players are still experimenting with whether she is better played as a tank or skill amp mage. thats why i chose not to include her, when by tomorrow she might (kinda) lose her tank role for a mage melee burst role
i agree that johann is the truest support in the game! i just felt obligated to slide in a few other characters so that he didnt automatically win and bait people into playing him. his main value is for auto attack comps, and plenty of people have been enjoying mages lately.
i totally forgot about daniel for this video! i hadnt ran into him for a few days, but he’s definitely the best ad focused assassin. jackie is kind of similar to DA echion for me, where shes a great assassin against weak comps, but can be focused and destroyed instantly by good comps. definitely still a good choice though! not everyone can play their comps effectively
hyejin definitely seems good, but i didnt consider her to be on the same level as adina since her rework for 1.0 took a lot away from her. i will have to try her out!
thank you again for the comment! might steal a few things for video ideas when i start running out
@@myaaniflakes I can definitely see where you're going! It's a shame I haven't seen much DA Echions in our games over here in Asia. Most (if not all) just go pure tank Black Mamba vampiric bloodline.
And yes, do try out Hyejin! I've been a Hyejin main(ish) in early access and was also worried that her utility and CC would tank, but no! Her W feels smooth to use and the rapid fire Qs + safety of her E makes her a terrifying DPS. Her R is just cherry on top as zone control tool. Do max Q>W>E>T and R whenever. Shuriken is a much easier weapon to play as it has access to Death Rune for hex damage and Frost Venom Dart which frees up Skadi's for other arm options!
I played in beta and understood how to play. Now i have no idea what to do in 1.0. Even full build or full gold, i do no damage and get 100-0 by a sneeze
the squads environment has definitely changed a good amount since beta. what character are you playing? it might be useful to check your replays and see whats happening
Great content, i was Chiara main as a tank, but as soon as i play elena it feels elena is better than chiara
chiara does have a lot more healing and shielding, but it's probably much easier to feel your impact as elena as you freeze and mess with your opponents!
@@myaaniflakes yup i really like it when see enemies freezeout, also when i play as Chiara i really like whe the E skill connect and the enemy rooted overtime.
Btw Will you make a video guide or you playing some character ?
@@rasisulhubbi9316 i might make character guides in the future! the reason why im not making any right now is because it's the preseason, so its possible that many of the "strong" characters that i've mentioned are nerfed by the time i make a guide im happy with :(
@@myaaniflakes well thats fair, keep up the good work man, IM looking forward to your guide. tbh i enjoy your explanation alot
All about them bruisers though. I'm more on board with Chiara myself.
As a support Adina enjoyer I'm confused that you mentioned only her damage potential, kind of ignored amount of utility and cc she can use so it's kinda if you main Adina you can play both roles, being a support or dps
Also, how about assasins? Like, they're not really hard and all, but still, btw for me twins(Debi and Marlene) are assasins, at least for now while there wasn't a balance patch yet
Plus I'd put Nicky into frontline to master and Felix into bruiser category
Overall, good vid
i mostly downplay adina's support potential because i experimented with her back when her heal was about 60-70% stronger! i cant deny that her support and sustain are still great, but her sun conjunct is so good, that it overshadows her potential support utility. she could easily be a support if she was rebalanced into one, but right now she's just much better as a damage dealer.
the assassins class was supposed to be looped into the melee burst class, but i forgot that term while i was recording the video. nicky and felix are definitely classified as those roles! i just think their numbers are a bit too low to comfortably recommend to everyone.
@@myaaniflakes for sure,Adina's support potential could've been better,but i do think that she's the best at that role for me currently,since priya didn't really had one and john got hardly nerfed,and yet,don't forget that at least her heal depends on your allies too
i mean adina threw her double star at you,there is no high damage skill shots or cc in a fight SO STAY IN THE HEAL BRO
@@chino200ms im happy to hear you chose such a fun character to play as support then! there's not much that's more satisfying than winning a fight and knowing you did everything great as adina.
and yeah, allies walking outside the healing field is a pain. the only ones that stick around are the ones who experienced the +150hp ticks back when it was way stronger 😭
wtf lol at 3:01 thats me :D
it was fun fighting you and your team! i hope you didnt mind me jumping you after we were both full build
@@myaaniflakes lol no problem im not super good on adela i was just trying her out
whats a good jenny build
anything that has skill amp and attack speed! i think it’s mainly important to remember to upgrade to devils marksman as soon as possible
hart is so cringe and overbuffed, i lost a 1vs1 Isol vs Hart after i got 2 free auto attacks, had 2 weapon mastery above, and i hit Q
🥶 not a great sign when you play fights better and get stat checked harder