Pokemon Unite Devs ABANDON Game For Pokemon Unite 2.0?

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  • @spragels
    @spragels  10 місяців тому +104

    Tin foil hat lovers click like here

    • @Always100AlwaysStrong
      @Always100AlwaysStrong 10 місяців тому +2

      I just like clicking buttons. **Click**

    • @reecesxpieces
      @reecesxpieces 10 місяців тому +1

      I love tin foil, could wear as a hat, could use as a liner for air frying

    • @drawingartcreation2990
      @drawingartcreation2990 10 місяців тому +1

      LoL

    • @mrsdragonite
      @mrsdragonite 10 місяців тому +1

      I have three tinfoil hats, ha!

    • @Ushku
      @Ushku 10 місяців тому +1

      Tin foil hats protect you from the zombie apocalypse

  • @notrab13
    @notrab13 10 місяців тому +49

    I don’t know how one can claim that the global version hasn’t been neglected the last few months. The large amount of time M2Y went unnerfed, the lack of any significant additions during and after two year anniversary, no new map, recycled Halloween event, very bad Blaziken release, no new emblems, etc. all indicate to me how little time, money, and effort is being spent on the game. I don’t care why the game has been neglected and I don’t care about China, but to look at what’s happened these last few months and think that’s all ok seems willfully ignorant:

    • @vags7831
      @vags7831 10 місяців тому +5

      Agreed
      Past few months the updates have been significantly slowed down. No new emblems etc as you said.
      I think there will be quite some time until Timi stop updating the global version BUT the game is on life-support right now.

    • @markmushyguy
      @markmushyguy 10 місяців тому +10

      EXACTLY. I hate when Jake posts these videos like you’re all basically crazy. And where he says Nintendo and Pokémon Co. wouldn’t let that happen… they’re allowing and have allowed it to happen without a say or without a recognition.

    • @berserk2638
      @berserk2638 10 місяців тому +5

      Yeah, it was 4 emblem updates spaced evenly every 3 months. They finished Johto emblems back in February which was 9 months ago. They also should have rebalanced the absolutely awful red and pink emblems so that most of the emblems didn’t reduce your defense. If you have to invest in 7 red, and the best color scheme you can get is 7 red/4 white, I’d hope the majority of the emblems aren’t going to leave me at -15 defense

    • @TheShuuman
      @TheShuuman 10 місяців тому

      It's all okay

  • @SiberianNinja-Jin
    @SiberianNinja-Jin 10 місяців тому +55

    Honestly, I've just been ignoring the Chinese stuff cause it doesn't look that great IMO. If ppl really think they've abandoned the global version, they don't understand game development & what goes on behind the scenes. China usually has different versions of many games from what I guess just to be different. The only ppl that can shutdown our version of PKMN Unite is The Pokemon Company. Remember that. They have the last say along with Nintendo.

    • @spragels
      @spragels  10 місяців тому +15

      True

    • @vaibhav668
      @vaibhav668 10 місяців тому +9

      its much better imo, current version is unplayable for f2p players.dont throw the "you just dont know how to play" at me, i have been playing since first official release but i had to leave because its fucking unplayable

    • @josephakintoye174
      @josephakintoye174 10 місяців тому +14

      ​@vaibhav668
      Skill issue tbh.

    • @Eragon_RH
      @Eragon_RH 10 місяців тому +13

      ​@@vaibhav668in what way is it "unplayable for f2p players"..
      If you've been playing since release (even with breaks) you could/should have every pokemon, almost all held items at level 30 (even tho you only need lvl20), basically every emblem
      Nothing in the game is locked away or extremely hard to get for f2p players
      Out of everything Unite does bad this isn't one of them

    • @julianomaxter
      @julianomaxter 10 місяців тому +5

      @@vaibhav668 lol, bro, 2 years playing and haven't get good yet?? LMAO

  • @dinogolfer
    @dinogolfer 10 місяців тому +81

    While I don't think that they are abandoning the global release or anything, I think you're a bit too hopeful about the new stuff being added to the global version. It's very much the standard for most games that get sent to China to be completely new games with tons changed about them, so I honestly don't think any of these changes will come over. I'm not sure why that's the case, it might be needed to be able to release the games in China since they're far more strict when it comes to what games can release at all, but it's the truth nowadays sadly. The only things I think we'll get from that version are the new pokemon and holowear, which I think they'll probably continue to push to the global version FIRST regardless.
    And on the argument that Pokemon Company wouldn't be okay with doing that - Pokemon Quest is a perfect example. The game released globally to moderate success, then they made a completely new version for China a few years later that continues to get updates (has all of Johto and Hoenn mons) while the global version hasn't gotten a single update past initial release. I'm not saying that's what is happening here, like I said I don't think that they will ever abandon the global version of Unite, but I don't think we'll be getting any of the COOL changes from the Chinese version either.

    • @ComPTonRiLLO
      @ComPTonRiLLO 10 місяців тому

      We need to stop playing Chinese games where they do this crap

  • @salmence100
    @salmence100 10 місяців тому

    Understandable, everything you said makes sense. Unfortunately, we have several examples of pokemon games continuing to be developed in China, and abandoned elsewhere. Did you know Pokemon Quest has been getting updates since launch? Meanwhile we simply have the launch.

  • @searkahn3055
    @searkahn3055 10 місяців тому +12

    If pokemon unite 2.0 was to take over the first game, they could at least let people transfer their stuff from the original game to the new one

    • @base-vegeta3611
      @base-vegeta3611 10 місяців тому +1

      But then they wouldn't be able to re-sell you all of your holowear

    • @Twocell4u
      @Twocell4u 10 місяців тому +1

      If a merger happens, they will definitely do a huge reset. It will get backlash and the game will die. And I play the global release all the time. Its sad to think, but maybe money is all the devs care about.

  • @mennogamesnl2638
    @mennogamesnl2638 10 місяців тому +1

    The title really scares me since i played the game Overwatch a lot but the devs abandoned the game for 5 years to work on Overwatch 2 they gave us teasers that showed insane stuff, it was supposed to be god tier level but when it finally came out we got the same game, all that was shown nothing of the big stuff actually came to the game.. they abandoned a game for 5 years to work on a game to then tease it, hype it up and then abandon the game and release it barely any different from Overwatch 1 and Overwatch 1 got closed so you can't play it anymore.. the only big change is skins got really expensive..

    • @Drop0sauce
      @Drop0sauce 10 місяців тому

      Lmao and anyone with a brain is gonna just freely play it maybe spend the 10 or 20 but you can see these games won’t last like Fortnite has I don’t see unite lasting 5 plus years with this bs formula 6 weeks you get a bug fix then another 6 weeks you get a small set of buffs and nerfs that usually leave the game in the exact same state for 6 or 7 months then we get a noticeable patch that is ultimately still the same game year 2 we don’t even get a new map got 1 new quick match mode that mediocre and still all items are the same for over 2 years I’d argue that people who play unite are just broke or have no system because why would you play unite so much knowing you could come back after 6 months to pretty much the same game

  • @ItMeAyayron
    @ItMeAyayron 10 місяців тому +1

    Timi has conditioned us to expect the worst possible decision at every turn. The rumors gain credence when you consider their track record for not making clear and obvious improvements.

  • @bimbzy2375
    @bimbzy2375 10 місяців тому +3

    I highly doubt they would just abandon the global version, there is an entire e-sports community around it so that just wouldn’t fly. The most that will happen is perhaps a merger with the Chinese version further down the line; and as long as I can keep my account and everything I’ve earned on it over the years then I really wouldn’t care. In fact I would welcome some new content, don’t be so afraid of change people.. it’s how things grow and evolve 🤷🏼‍♀️
    Side note: I would absolutely dance with Mr. Mime

    • @alexlehrersh9951
      @alexlehrersh9951 10 місяців тому

      HoS my disagree

    • @sot8343
      @sot8343 10 місяців тому

      There's no way that the Chinese version will go global. Good odds that software is collecting user data for the Chinese government.
      The Chinese Airbnb disclose the app sends user data to the government.
      That's likely the only way apps are allowed to operate.
      Why does the Chinese version get more attention? The user base probably spends more money.

  • @krillery0ne
    @krillery0ne 10 місяців тому +1

    Hello Jake! Ive been watching you ever since 2 years ago. From then, your editing and videos have changed vastly! Im just here to say that latley ive noticed you stopped saying, "Hello everyone! Its your residence cowboy here, Yee Haw!" I really miss you saying that and I just want to kindly ask you to go back to saying it! If there is a personal reason not to, that is ok. Please, if this comment makes you uncomfortable for any personal reason, ignore it ever existed. Thanks. ❤

    • @spragels
      @spragels  10 місяців тому

      I should start with it more

  • @CapitalGames84
    @CapitalGames84 10 місяців тому +1

    And people say this game isn’t dying

  • @trina3665
    @trina3665 10 місяців тому +1

    Yeah that stuff is never coming to global version lol

  • @kevinkennedy9737
    @kevinkennedy9737 10 місяців тому

    It's a Chinese beta, I mean we keep saying beta. Same as the release beta only existed in Apac 2 years ago, China has a massive player base, and they are using the new region to test out stuff that will come to a global re release version when ready, granted the competition season is coming up soon so they need to kick it in gear, but the stuff I'm seeing in China makes me very hopeful for the grand changes coming to unite

    • @timserious7678
      @timserious7678 10 місяців тому

      Chinese market is big speciality for Mobile mobas .... Pokemon unite wants what hok mlbb and wild rift want market share
      Global will reman same maybe few quick modes and holowear will come that's about it

  • @PicasoRick
    @PicasoRick 10 місяців тому +2

    I remember having a timi phone I bought for £20 🤣 broke way faster than unite so that's something 😂

  • @moonblastx1996
    @moonblastx1996 10 місяців тому +1

    Yeah it makes no sense what people are saying about them abandoning our version or that we aren't getting anything at all from the improvements we see in the Chinese Beta, considering that:
    1) a lot of improvements are direct answers to OUR feedback
    2) most of the changes have nothing to do with China's regulations, they're just gameplay changes
    3) it would invalidate the chance for China to play in Worlds if their game is completely different
    4) it explains why our version has been stalling a bit, probably because there's a lot behind the scenes to release when the schedule is set
    5) a lot of the recent Pokemon spin-off games went through reworks at some point. Pokemon Masters becoming Masters EX and Cafe Mix becoming Cafe Remix for example

  • @twisterrrrr
    @twisterrrrr 10 місяців тому

    im cryingg, the sarcasm while adressing the people that think the devs abandoned unite is funny asl💀

  • @embernodebeef
    @embernodebeef 10 місяців тому

    Nintendo would never make it a one country game.
    MONEY IS MONEY
    They want it from all nations. That's why it's world wide

  • @ultragamer7996
    @ultragamer7996 10 місяців тому

    Nah bro, the updates are just very different

  • @actionplay1018
    @actionplay1018 10 місяців тому

    Japan should take over pokemon unite world wide version

  • @54_nirbhaynandaniya91
    @54_nirbhaynandaniya91 10 місяців тому +1

    Unite is Falling now, because of their negligence

  • @CrypticSpark
    @CrypticSpark 10 місяців тому

    If the Smash Bros leaks has taught me anything, it's people will jump to conclusions and get way to invested in theories based off limited info. After the Grinch leak, GameXplain started using it a lot as a "leak" that turned out to be false and had everyone fooled, and seemed to bring it up at every chance they could. All I commented about on a video once was no it didn't have everyone fooled and why they kept bringing it up. Got a response off someone claiming I was trying to brag or think I was smarter than others (can't remember exactly). So yeah, people can get way too invested in something and feel personally attacked if anyone dare criticise it.
    My personal view on Pokemon Unite China, based off what I heard about other games having to make changes to release in China, I'm not too surprised, and there are plenty of games with different versions that seem to be doing fine, RuneScape and Old School RuneScape, WoW and Classic WoW. If anything Unite would probably even be better off than those, because like spragels said the Chinese version off Unite is likely using assets from the existing version, so who's to say assets made exclusive for the Chinese version can't be reused in the other version?

  • @theScarletSprig
    @theScarletSprig 10 місяців тому

    Wait a sec, are you telling me that... Even though Unite was made by Chinese companies, it hasn't been available to the Chinese people.????!!

  • @ChiptuneTCG
    @ChiptuneTCG 10 місяців тому

    Why don't they just give them a chunk of money and just bring that version to the original

  • @4xI
    @4xI 10 місяців тому

    If devs really care about global version, why we still don't have a draft mode in ranked? Chinse version got it day one. Why we have a worse expierwnce with op broken mons just after the relase, when chinse players can easly don't pick up them and have better fun? There is something worng when devs chose to listen for chinse players and ignore the rest.

  • @SerothTalon
    @SerothTalon 10 місяців тому

    A lot of the times when things get split up like this, one version is typically used for market testing. "We want to try adding a hub world? Well let's push it out on the chinese server and see how it lands." A lot of the features that we see in the chinese client currently are features that showed up on global surveys in the past. Just be patient, if it performs well in the test market, it will push to global in time.

  • @BudiSetiawan-qe9ge
    @BudiSetiawan-qe9ge 10 місяців тому

    Clearly @spragels doesnt research AoV another game from TiMi/Tencent which being abandoned in favor of HoK. Clearly very clearly biased because this is pokemon game.
    2:00 completely unlikely yes, but updates getting scarce in AoV
    2:30 Pokemon game yes, but TiMi already has precedent of it (AoV)
    5:30 KIC now based on HoK by importing AoV stuffs. But AoV players is in disadvantage because the unfamiliarity.
    7:44 - consistent player base? The numbers on samsung game launcher has slowly going down
    9:28 you are also saying this without any information too.
    You need to know that THIS IS NOT TPC MAKING THE GAME BUT TIMI/TENCENT.

  • @randomedgygamer2191
    @randomedgygamer2191 10 місяців тому

    I highly enjoy unite and really hope we get that version too

  • @Xylynnt_Unite
    @Xylynnt_Unite 10 місяців тому

    hopefully it'll be world wide soon

  • @johnbob1t1
    @johnbob1t1 10 місяців тому

    I hope it works out like you say

  • @nicolasvoltasio9672
    @nicolasvoltasio9672 10 місяців тому

    Nah,I abandoned cause the game is unplayable

  • @UnwantedWolfy
    @UnwantedWolfy 10 місяців тому

    why do they get some better stuff :(

  • @xluchox5469
    @xluchox5469 10 місяців тому

    Estas equivocado, demasiado

  • @kameronrobinson1253
    @kameronrobinson1253 10 місяців тому

    this is fireee

  • @anaskywalker254
    @anaskywalker254 10 місяців тому +270

    I dont believe in the part that the game is abandoned. But the part that says "the things on the chinese server wont come to global" that is true. The company riot did this with league of legends wild Rift and other games as well. It has a lot of things on the chinese version that never came to the global version. I highly doubt we will get these really diferent things we see on the trailer on global. I hope im wrong because i want to see all these amazing things in the game

    • @ZelniteMH
      @ZelniteMH 10 місяців тому +17

      I'll also add that Konami added QOL features to the Chinese version of Duel Links that the Global version still hasn't gotten. The rest of Jake's point I agree but I don't think that it's guaranteed that some of the cool stuff CN got like drafting in ranked can come to the Global version. I hope I'm wrong though.

    • @verezul2983
      @verezul2983 10 місяців тому +4

      This, I agree. People familiar with Chinese games/Mainland devs and the way they operate may feel the same way too. I also think that, even if any of these regional-exclusive features does make it into the game, it will probably not be anytime soon. I see a lot of people being very hopeful that many of these things are going to end up in the global. China is a whole different ballgame and audience altogether. Not to be pessimistic, but I'm not going to put too much hope into this 🤔

    • @devilkazumi578
      @devilkazumi578 10 місяців тому +16

      I hate to sound mean but CN are notorious for back lashing and sending death threats to the devs whenever they don't get special things....I remember honkai was gonna give global players something special but the CN playerbase were giving them death threats so they had to cancel it and also in genshin impact the CN playerbase were killing and abusing cats because they didn't like a specific character from genshin

    • @kc12394
      @kc12394 10 місяців тому +6

      Yea, he says people are speculating and then proceeds to speculate about what might come to the game. Way too hopeful imo

    • @vulwpix
      @vulwpix 10 місяців тому +5

      THISSSS. Without mentioning the special splash arts for chromas CN server receives every patch AND they have another different platform for TFT (golden spatula) with exclusive sv content.
      Fun fact: in both games, Unite and LoL, Tencent is involved :)

  • @yodaenvy
    @yodaenvy 10 місяців тому +93

    Conspiracy Theory #34 : Jake has a secret only phantumps account that is only viewable in china.

    • @spragels
      @spragels  10 місяців тому +53

      Please don’t tell anyone

    • @TitanHydrox-wo9qh
      @TitanHydrox-wo9qh 10 місяців тому

      For more information search spragrels rule 34

    • @thefreshvince879
      @thefreshvince879 10 місяців тому +5

      onlydonphans

    • @Noriega74
      @Noriega74 10 місяців тому

      Oh yeah, the NOTspragels account

    • @luniarXV
      @luniarXV 10 місяців тому

      phantumps is crazy

  • @spragels
    @spragels  10 місяців тому +21

    People who know everything click like here

  • @morenopanni277
    @morenopanni277 10 місяців тому +38

    It's difficult because this is a global online game that we still have competitions like the world champions, but we do have proof that they abandoned a game and only update it for the Chinese version. Pokémon Quest is the example. It came out, got a few patches and got completely forgot, but in China is still updated currently even after 5 whole years and they added almost every Pokémon, instead of only the first 151 we had for the rest of the world. It's a different kind of game and scenario, but something to consider. Though I doubt it will happen for Unite too.

  • @andrew8168
    @andrew8168 10 місяців тому +9

    Why cant we have a single version? And Unite could be a good start for the Pokemon MMO that we need in our lives.

  • @Ewr-yh8tk
    @Ewr-yh8tk 10 місяців тому +9

    Unfortunately something like this has already happened, pokemon quest got a Chinese version and the global release was abandoned.

    • @spragels
      @spragels  10 місяців тому +5

      We already have a global version with 100 million downloads

    • @bautea
      @bautea 10 місяців тому

      The Quest global version is developed by TPC, and the Quest China version is by NetEast. Both Unite global and China are developed by Timi, so completely different scenarios.

    • @Drop0sauce
      @Drop0sauce 10 місяців тому +7

      @@spragelsbro most of those downloads are people who are playing on mobile and switch and there’s not even 100 million players anymore atp I’m convinced you nd Cris are more praying it changes

    • @spragels
      @spragels  10 місяців тому +2

      @@Drop0sauce i’d like you need to succeed, but if it goes away, I’ll just do another game. I’m only saying things that are true.

    • @pablojams5152
      @pablojams5152 10 місяців тому

      @@spragelsPeople are here to watch you for you, so if it’s another game that’s fine. Been watching since the beginning of Unite and even when I am not playing actively I’ll still watch your vids lol

  • @Timikyu
    @Timikyu 10 місяців тому +4

    this is one of the most clickbaity titles i've seen, atleast add a questionmark at the end o.o

    • @spragels
      @spragels  10 місяців тому +3

      It’s the topic of the vid though and it’s what people are saying. Is it click bait if it’s exactly what the video is about?

    • @Timikyu
      @Timikyu 10 місяців тому +3

      @@spragels the title is a statement, people searching up pokemon unite and seeing it will think it's true because one of the biggest unite content creators has a video titled it making people think it's actually the case, not everyone will click the video, but plenty of people will see the title and get their thoughts influenced by it
      Atleast that's what i think

    • @spragels
      @spragels  10 місяців тому +2

      I dunno I think you are really reaching here tbh but I will add a ? @@Timikyu

    • @Timikyu
      @Timikyu 10 місяців тому

      oo thank you, i have no idea if i'm reaching, could very well be the only one 😅but it's the first thing i thought when i read it and in case i wasnt the only one to think that way i figured it was worth mentioning @@spragels

    • @spragels
      @spragels  10 місяців тому

      I think if that is click bait then everything ever made is click bait. Its literally what the video is about@@Timikyu

  • @virusgames7409
    @virusgames7409 10 місяців тому +2

    Don't get hopes too high. Usually, if the game has special Chinese version, all [or at least most] of unique content stays in this version. There is a ton of Chinese PvZ versions, it's crazy. And nothing from it was added to the global version. Devs won't abandon the global version, but I highly doubt anything from Chinese version will make its way to the Global

  • @Lovve_less
    @Lovve_less 10 місяців тому +1

    They literally said none of the new updates are coming to global. Yes they abandoned it for the china exclusive version. Ofcourse theyll keep minimal updates for global and same monetization and the server up. I'm sorry spragels but this time I disagree wholeheartedly, we've seen this happen let alone them confirming in clear spoken words. The video has been translated to English. Surprised you haven't seen it? Trust me I get that it would make NO sense to have other versions but china has many different regulations and philosophies behind their games and how they operate. You can't assume they'd be able to have the same game in China, money or not.

  • @HotTacoss
    @HotTacoss 10 місяців тому +5

    This reminds me of what happened in the movie Free Guy. Abandoning the first game for the sequel.

  • @did4411
    @did4411 4 місяці тому +1

    I HOPE that timi is using the Chinese version to play around with wild ideas. It gets to a point however, where the two version become TOO different. Removing the time limit has effectually done this. World wide unite has to now release a special mode where it's first to score an amount wins. Then this mode has to be more popular than the standard ranked. it just seams too drastic...
    The moves extra upgrades are arguably more lickly to come to WW unite.... even then balancing is an issue. The world wide audience is far more sensitive to unbalanced meta's. People complain and actually stop playing. Where as in china people tend to complain less about balance issues and even less lickly to stop playing all together.

  • @MellaniePlays
    @MellaniePlays 10 місяців тому +2

    Can i give an example of a pokemon game that is neglected after an Chinese release? Pokemon QUEST for the switch. It is a fun game and the international version has only dex 1 while the Chinese version has already extra pokedexes and much more new game mechanics. English version is now totally dead.

  • @jutjorda
    @jutjorda 10 місяців тому +1

    Idk if Jake is being naive and too optimistic, or if he doesn’t know how Chinese version of global games works… Look at the comments below of how BIGGER games that have received the same treatment in terms of a global and China version exclusives. I do appreciate your work as a content creator for the game but we have to speak from precedents and not from feeling for topics like this.

  • @iliketurtles9719
    @iliketurtles9719 10 місяців тому +1

    They haven't abandoned it they still making money while doing nothing .... There should been another patch by now but they haven't done anything, pts server is dead for so long there's no draft ..... Items like leftovers and drain crown haven't been buffed or reworked to make it any decent
    If a father goes for milk and comes back after every 5 years you cannot technically call it abandoned but it's close

  • @markmushyguy
    @markmushyguy 10 місяців тому +2

    I hate seeing Jake post these videos because I feel like he’s basically making people who suspect this BECAUSE of evidence - state of the game, infrequent patches, nothing new, and no communication seem like they’re crazy or how they feel is irrelevant. Like no disrespect to you Jake but ppl have reasons and speculations and it’s annoying for you to sit and invalidate people

    • @timserious7678
      @timserious7678 10 місяців тому

      Game is trash 🗑️ ..... They don't even bother to fix bugs for months, i have stopped expecting anything and just play on weekends with friends or the in game tournament because it has draft
      Never have never will spend money on this trash game so i don't expect anything

    • @spragels
      @spragels  10 місяців тому

      The patch schedule is the same it’s always been. Pokémon have had a relatively similar release schedule. Events are happening with the same frequency as last year. I don’t think you realize that what you are saying ain’t true.

  • @spyro91rep.productions22
    @spyro91rep.productions22 10 місяців тому +1

    Pokémon unite is dead not because of players not because is broken not because there’s issues of players go idle like big babies. It’s about communication in the game. If there’s no communicating to the players is dead point unless they give us content is not dead.
    But UA-camwrs dramma about is not dead it is dead if there’s no communication same goes to online games pokemon go pokemon unite rocket league and so many more of lack of communication is not that hard to talk to the fans gives them money for

  • @taohuman4940
    @taohuman4940 10 місяців тому +1

    The chinese version looks kinda chaotic tbh. But I do want that mvp animation lol

  • @jonemillester
    @jonemillester 10 місяців тому +1

    ISTG if they release a legendary pokemon and were forced to buy a Japanese switch to play that pokemon

  • @aquablast3155
    @aquablast3155 10 місяців тому +2

    Hmm... Okay, I think the global Unite won't be abandoned, but I'm convinced that Unite 2.0 will probably have a lot features that won't ever come to the global Unite. The Pokemon Company still has a hand in this, so I'd think they would try to prevent actual abandonment. (Or take over the development of the global version somehow if TIMI has lost interest in upkeeping the global version altogether.)
    Pokemon Quest was fairly popular, but it wasn't as big as Unite. The Pokemon Company might have decided to let some Chinese devs have fun with it, and didn't bother to arrange a deal where the changes they make would be ported to the global version. They've probably talked things over for Unite 2.0 though. Just, none of us knows the details lol.

    • @pablojams5152
      @pablojams5152 10 місяців тому

      Quest was very small comparatively, and it was one of those “free to start” kind of games which just didn’t pick up very widely in the western world. The gameplay of Quest just doesn’t keep as many people in the west entertained for so long, they probably knew the game was gonna be small here tbh.

    • @josephatkinson6280
      @josephatkinson6280 10 місяців тому

      Quest was not popular, hence why it died out. The Chinese playerbase goes crazy for mobile games compared to the rest of the world.

  • @Persephone403
    @Persephone403 10 місяців тому +40

    the one thing i would like them to add to the global version of them game is the open word lobby where your fav mon is following you around and you can interact with your friends when your teamed up waiting for que..

    • @TheCrimsonTorrent
      @TheCrimsonTorrent 10 місяців тому +5

      While this may be a nice thing, it is entirely cosmetic and unrelated to the actual gameplay. I would rather them invest time in making the actual game better than creating some hub that doesn't actually have anything to do with the gameplay. I'm really not sure why they did this for the chinese version.
      Also if I want to run around with my Pokemon following me and interacting with my friends in game, then i'd just play Scarlet and Violet.

    • @dionjones6300
      @dionjones6300 10 місяців тому +1

      That sounds nice but I can only think that it'll be laggy as hell. The animated background is already laggy and they don't even look that good

    • @User_.109
      @User_.109 10 місяців тому

      Yeah bro if they added that theres must be so many player quit playing the game...

  • @crackers0413
    @crackers0413 10 місяців тому +2

    Question - do Chinese players exist in a completely different server (no chance for matchmaking with international players), or is the player base UNITE'd?

  • @nayraal
    @nayraal 10 місяців тому +2

    I like your optimism, sadly, it’s not grounded in reality Jake

    • @spragels
      @spragels  10 місяців тому

      We just had a patch that brought over changes that were in the Chinese beta

    • @nayraal
      @nayraal 10 місяців тому +2

      @@spragels Of course they’re going to bring over nerfs and buffs, they’re minuscule changes in the grand scheme of things., but the CN version will absolutely gets thing that the global version won’t. It’s the case for most games that get a CN and global release. Do I hope I’m wrong and that we’ll get a cooler game out of this? Absolutely. Do I think it’s likely? No. I don’t think the global version of Unite will be abandoned, I do agree with you on that, but it’ll definitely start to be looked at as the least appealing version of Unite

  • @spicyananaspizza
    @spicyananaspizza 10 місяців тому +1

    When I play Unite on my phone I don't have lags when traversing the menus, on the Switch it's quite bad/slow.
    In the video shown they're clearly showing a mobile version, but it's quite laggy. Can't imagine how bad it'll run on the Switch. Though, not any of our concern because we'll never get it. (r.i.p. the backpacks)

  • @gray4873
    @gray4873 10 місяців тому +2

    Im well aware they not abandoning the main game the problem for me is most of us on copium cause it’s only a beta and off the bat their game is > than the global game rn all of us even you are being hopeful for things that may not even come to global and all we able to do is be hopeful because the devs of the game that’s played worldwide decides not to let us know anything but decides to let us know everything bout the Chinese beta

  • @stepheni1105
    @stepheni1105 10 місяців тому +12

    I don't think they abandoned our game I think they just need to have more frequent balance changes. Bc if something is op we have to play a garbage meta the whole season. I don't mind when somethings strong. Just don't like it unplayable unless u play with it.

  • @EBgamesEvan45
    @EBgamesEvan45 10 місяців тому +5

    I just want Meowscarada to come out this month lol

    • @mennogamesnl2638
      @mennogamesnl2638 10 місяців тому

      I just want Empoleon to come to the game, it's design fits the game perfectly honestly i have no idea why Empoleon isn't in the game yet.. Gogoat would be a great one too, honestly, i don't know why they added Dragapult over Empoeon or Gogoat..

    • @edsbegaming507
      @edsbegaming507 10 місяців тому

      @@mennogamesnl2638I just want Alolan raichu to come to the game, and Lokix.

    • @jinji4609
      @jinji4609 10 місяців тому

      ​@@mennogamesnl2638China interview had Piplup plush so he is coming. Most of Pokken tournament mon already came to this game
      Dragapult is the most popular Pokemon of Gen 8 in 2020 poll.

    • @GreenLoaf
      @GreenLoaf 10 місяців тому

      I am more excited for Koridian and Metagross tbh

    • @ernestoh9389
      @ernestoh9389 10 місяців тому +1

      No mon will be released this month unless in the PTS.

  • @frstrspndr1478
    @frstrspndr1478 10 місяців тому +1

    Does anyone actually want this new version based on gameplay thats been seen? It just seems more chaotic qnd less enjoyable than the current version

  • @Itriggeryou
    @Itriggeryou 10 місяців тому +1

    They should do a PC version of Unite, that'll be a banger for sure

  • @Dadbot
    @Dadbot 10 місяців тому +2

    Simply put: a polished turd is still a turd

  • @imvention5696
    @imvention5696 10 місяців тому +1

    Jake and his 10 minutes of copium

  • @chareslav
    @chareslav 10 місяців тому +1

    I want to dance with my Pokemon in the game 😠

  • @Marvinosos16
    @Marvinosos16 10 місяців тому +2

    Pokémon Quest enters the chat!

  • @БезымянноеОблако
    @БезымянноеОблако 10 місяців тому +1

    Honestly, I don't mind if Chinese version has some special content for it if it's cosmetic(open lobby, skins, exclusive BP and so). What I really want from what we saw in Chinese version: 1) new game modes, 2)new upgrades for basic moves.

  • @deadzy3587
    @deadzy3587 10 місяців тому +10

    Lol, there are overthinkers, and then theres those ppl that just speculate, think of it as their truth then spread that info as if it were facts 😅🤡

  • @TheHDGamerr
    @TheHDGamerr 10 місяців тому +1

    I’m happy with the possibility of an even better game then what we have

    • @vags7831
      @vags7831 10 місяців тому

      Keep dreaming...

  • @Umbreon7117
    @Umbreon7117 10 місяців тому

    ALthough I'm not Timi Fan but whalish player ( i dont how it's possible but I'm a cool skin guy) I'm pretty sure that Chinese Unite and Normal Unite WOULD BE SAME IN RANKED and MAJOR EVENTS or at least just a similar differences. I've never heard that a game that divided himself into global and Chinese with such a big differences.

  • @entityproductions830
    @entityproductions830 10 місяців тому

    If its true(its mire likely it isnt but consider it) i wouldn't be surprised
    Honestly, i wouldn't
    Would YOU trust a company named TIMI(little timmys friend group i call it)? I wouldn't
    As of today i still don't rlly trust them to make responsible choices in development *COUGH* (MEWTWO)*COUGH*

  • @ac4941
    @ac4941 10 місяців тому

    Why people want all this Chinese stuff is beyond me, beyond things like the lobby, UI and animations, which granted I do want too.
    But.
    You all want gacha mechanics for items?
    You all want another gamemode that turns ANY pokemon into a Comfey?
    I personally also like the overdunk mechanic, although I know that's YMMV.
    But it seems to me like a lot of the Chinese changes that arent bells and whistles seems kinda cancer.

  • @hundredsg
    @hundredsg 10 місяців тому

    Please don't compare Untie with LoL + LoL:Wild Rift, as one was made for PC by the old team and the other by new Mobile team. So Riot couldn't simply port things over.
    Pokemon Unite has both on mobile made by TiMi from the start.

  • @nekuromalice241
    @nekuromalice241 10 місяців тому

    I tend to agree with you on everything but not on this one, unfortunately. I'm not sure if it's because the Chinese version, bad revenue or what it is, but the game feels... empty, unloved. I remember last year not only we got more Pokemon added, there was almost always an event to look forward to, with rewards that made it worth it, like multiple free green holowears for a lot of Pokemon, for example. I used to look forward to the Unite Weekend, it was 2K coins just for playing the game and they've now substituted it for... Platinum emblems, worthless Platinum emblems. Yes, they keep nailing each Pokemon's battle style, they're all so fun to play, but any and every other aspect of the game now seems worthless. No new maps, no good rewards, no new unique events, I think the only unique event we had this year was Tinkaton's.
    Besides all that, the game got completely unbalanced with the Mewtwos for like 2-3 months and even after the nerfs you can feel how much it just damaged the game , matchmaking couldn't be worse...
    This sounds like a complaining post, and it is, but I'm saying all this because regardless of the reason, the devs are not putting any care, effort or love into the game anymore, that's an undeniable reality. I keep playing because using each Pokemon's unique battle style is extremely fun, other than that the game is... just boring, repetitive, lifeless. Pointless.

  • @hadrielaxellecardenas5096
    @hadrielaxellecardenas5096 10 місяців тому

    I wanna be honest. It's Pokémon UNITE so there shouldn't be another version because this Global version should be accessible wherever you are with the developers able to respect and communicate and support the player base as much as possible..
    Though because of political issues and strict censorship laws, if a feature was added that the goverment doesn't want. It would possibly be banned.
    Getting a Chinese version in any game is hard enough. That's why it should just be a single version. what's the point of putting "Unite" into the name when the game itself is divided.

  • @timm5671
    @timm5671 10 місяців тому

    You can't blame people or anybody for speculating anything when TIMI doesn't have effective communication. You make great logical points but even yourself is making assumptions. TIMI has proven time and time again to put things/bad balance into the game when it doesn't make sense so of course people are going to come up with assumptions about the game.
    TIMI needs to communicate and I won't defend their game for their lack of communication when they know that's a problem

  • @adrianlujan4116
    @adrianlujan4116 10 місяців тому

    You're arguments are sound. But since it doesn't conform to my worldview I'm simply going to ignore the logic and embrace the insanity. (Fingers Stuck in ears, eyes rolled back into my head, loudly chanting la la la la la)

  • @nickrobinson9629
    @nickrobinson9629 10 місяців тому

    Those folks are thinking about it backwards. Dev's want to bring their game to China because they're pleased with the Global game's success. If they were disappointed with the Global game, why decide to double down on their disappointment and open it to a new market? That would be a bad investment.

  • @galaxymusicman
    @galaxymusicman 10 місяців тому

    Wow, the Chinese market LOVES this new feature. This probably would’ve made us a lot of money globally, too bad we abandoned it.

  • @voidninja9134
    @voidninja9134 10 місяців тому

    Chinese and global have different Dev may be same company but people they recruit for Chinese and global different people...global version share their data to Chinese and they censored for Chinese people... China always do with any game they drastically changes game ...they improve better than global most part any game. And unfortunately we can't play their version some game might able to play via vpn but mostly they locked their game with citizen security code

  • @EphemeralPseudonym
    @EphemeralPseudonym 10 місяців тому

    mainlanders are incredibly freaking entitled, I absolutely would not put it past TiMi to have global UNITE missing a lot of CN confent

  • @aldercyng7287
    @aldercyng7287 10 місяців тому

    Well china is very national and they want to make the better version for china only. I mean i could be wrong and im not trying to sound offensive or rude, im just saying other chinese games have done this. We COULD see Chinese features in global but its not guaranteed. But i agree they wont drop global, that would be terrible financially.

  • @jamesdolan3046
    @jamesdolan3046 10 місяців тому

    Blizzard the developers of overwatch basically abandoned the game for 3 or 4 years to make a sequel that was just an upgraded engine and a shop. Companies will do anything for profits even if it doesn't make sense to fans

  • @HelpfulHuntersGuild
    @HelpfulHuntersGuild 10 місяців тому

    Hell I would be okay with them moving onto Unite 2.0 if they made it run better on the switch, or just put it on pc so it doesn't run like crap. Optimization is so horrid in the menus and if they can remake it that would probably be a good idea.

  • @vagrant87
    @vagrant87 10 місяців тому

    Timi doesn't care about e-sports and much less about the game quality. We will be lucky if they keep the servers running for us to play when the chinese casino version gets 20+ times the revenue

  • @kaskjmerecollier3917
    @kaskjmerecollier3917 10 місяців тому

    Pokemon unite is a MOBAL game designed for short bursts of gameplay (L for light) honestly I wish smite had a version like this

  • @zoricgames
    @zoricgames 10 місяців тому +3

    Shout-out to all the communicative Debs out there.

    • @spragels
      @spragels  10 місяців тому +2

      Love those Debs

  • @alfathebird6564
    @alfathebird6564 10 місяців тому

    yall, there's a china version of pokemon unite is so china people can play unite. They have their own internet and their other version of app that yall usually use. There's other games like pubgm and stuffs that have their own version and they make it have something that the global version dont. I mean the company itself is a china company so yea. They prolly wanted to make an exclusivity for their product for their own country since it can only be played for their people. But prolly they should always communicate with us which is the main idea of this video

  • @LightBrandX
    @LightBrandX 10 місяців тому

    Its called the Chinese BETA. Place emphasis on BETA.
    The global version is Production ready.

  • @KamakazeTaco
    @KamakazeTaco 10 місяців тому +6

    First off, it happened with Pokemon Quest. The global version stopped seeing new content, the CN version is still going strong nearly 5 years later. Riot also did a smaller version of this with LoL and Wild Rift. The CN version gets a LOT of things that never went global. It's pretty common for games to give the CN market special/more attention. Especially considering they will send death threats otherwise, it happened with Honkai Star Rail. The game won't die, but it will probably be the unwanted step child. Given just enough attention to keep it going.

    • @pablojams5152
      @pablojams5152 10 місяців тому

      Okay but this is Nintendo, notorious for not doing anything but what they want to do lol. I know it gets muddied through layers, TPCI, and then TiMi. But still if Nintendo wants something with their IP, it goes

    • @KamakazeTaco
      @KamakazeTaco 10 місяців тому +2

      @@pablojams5152 Nintendo shares Pokémon with gamefreak and creatures. It's not only up to them. And the cn market goes nuts for mobile games, money talks

    • @trina3665
      @trina3665 10 місяців тому

      I think you meant Honkai Impact 3rd, not Honkai Star Rail. I've played Star Rail since release and I don't recall anything like that happening. Still, I agree with what you're saying!

    • @KamakazeTaco
      @KamakazeTaco 10 місяців тому

      Ooh, you're right. Mixing up my Honkais.@@trina3665

    • @josephatkinson6280
      @josephatkinson6280 10 місяців тому

      Y'all really comparing pokemon quest to Pokemon unite like they have anything in common other than the IP 💀

  • @joystickpolitics
    @joystickpolitics 10 місяців тому

    I just dont think many or any of those features coming to global. Please understand China has like over a billon people with a stilted government. If you can get your product green lit with those offcials , you really dont need any other global market.

  • @marvin-nn5wr
    @marvin-nn5wr 10 місяців тому +1

    This game not dead yet....

  • @TheLMBLucas
    @TheLMBLucas 10 місяців тому +1

    I still have no idea why they keep making the games in Chinese first when the entire planet, including China, knows basic English. They could have it ready world-wide as soon as it's ready

    • @Alexis29_
      @Alexis29_ 10 місяців тому +2

      You would be surprised at how many people don't know english

    • @TPixelAdventures
      @TPixelAdventures 10 місяців тому

      do you even realise how nationalistic Chinese citizens are?
      they aren't even allowed to say they like international brands because it "hurts the pride of Chinese-made products".
      If you think they're gonna make a game in English, think again.

  • @devilkazumi578
    @devilkazumi578 10 місяців тому +1

    Its been like this for a lot of games when the a game doesnt do well outside of asia they put all of their focus on asia because thats where all of the money is at and they neglect everyone else....NA players have this "f2p" mentality theres no money in our region

    • @EphemeralPseudonym
      @EphemeralPseudonym 10 місяців тому

      yeah, there's this stigma here against spending money on something that "doesn't matter" - whaling, essentially
      If you wanna get a whale market you're going to need to tap into demographics that are at least tangentially into K-Pop. Even when they don't spend money, they make money like crazy for their faves lmao

  • @darkling5780
    @darkling5780 10 місяців тому

    Honestly... they should just kill this game. They need a purge of this playerbase... every season player just gets worse and worse. I rather see a new game to bring some excitement.

  • @allxmike8202
    @allxmike8202 10 місяців тому +2

    I told you guys unite was dead way before they released duraladon 😂

    • @Skeletonpie.
      @Skeletonpie. 10 місяців тому +1

      It's not dead though?

  • @julio3275
    @julio3275 10 місяців тому

    Its a mobile game thats barely updated. Not a conspiracy to say it could be dropped in favor of new projects, just logic.

  • @arturoandrade8318
    @arturoandrade8318 10 місяців тому

    All I hear is Jake is being paid to push the Chinese version and forget about all the money (all $7) we put into the global version.

  • @julianomaxter
    @julianomaxter 10 місяців тому

    what i do know about the chinese audience is that they spend way more in games. so maybe pokemon unite global will survive as the more balanced version and the chinese a more casino spend your money version.... just speculating

  • @MapleSoldier69
    @MapleSoldier69 10 місяців тому

    Making a 2.0 version of a game never works. Tell me one game that got more popular with the remastered version of it, I'll wait

  • @Nanobit84
    @Nanobit84 10 місяців тому +1

    Imagine 2.0 is actually a bootleg?! I mean it’s happened with other games out there.
    Also, imagine current version goes offline and the new one 2.0 will be the new Current unite replacement like what Blizzard did with Overwatch. What mean is that it’s possible the “2.0” is built on a new engine so it can run a lot better for both mobile and Switch.