The grim truth about Sam Mitchell's Hawks demolishing Clarko's Roos - Sunday Footy Show

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  • @rohandoe8361
    @rohandoe8361 3 місяці тому +80

    Come on Damian, say it! The Hawks winning games is form of Tanking.

  • @AtariPCnet
    @AtariPCnet 3 місяці тому +17

    Clarko 100% isn't the right coach for North. I don't want to sound ungrateful for what Clarko did for Hawthorn but many of us knew in the years leading up to him finally going that it was the best thing for the club moving forward as the game had moved past him. He made poor list management decisions bringing in guys for another tilt at a Premiership when we needed to face reality and start the rebuild (O'Meara, Mitchell, Wingard), he had us playing an defensive game style which wasn't pretty and didn't win many games, he stubbornly played guys out of position like Connor Nash who was headed for the delist pile.
    Sam Mitchell was a breathe of fresh air in comparison. He made the hard list management decisions, "a form of tanking" as Damo put it, in moving O'Meara and Mitchell on and as a result our midfield flourished with the likes of Worpel and Newcombe and driving the midfield. He has completely changed our game style to be more attacking and everthing coming together the recent results speak for themselves. He's playing guys to their strengths such as Nash mentioned before he also has been driving our midfield. And then there's been some astute recruiting. The difference between the two is night and day.
    I feel sorry for North fans because you've been sold a lemon.

    • @taxads7791
      @taxads7791 3 місяці тому

      & yet their president, the great Sonya Hood, was hosting victory laps when they signed Clarko..carrying on like Napoli when they signed Maradona in the 80s, not realising Clarko's best days were almost 10 years ago.. may as well have signed Sheeds, or Malthouse, or better yet Denis Pagan

  • @danieljdtaylor
    @danieljdtaylor 3 місяці тому +30

    Hawthorn’s tanking is going extremely well for them this year

  • @crazychips123
    @crazychips123 3 місяці тому +96

    Damo doesn’t wanna talk about how the hawks “tanked” with their rebuild

    • @tysongibbs5809
      @tysongibbs5809 3 місяці тому

      Please!😒

    • @user-ln8we1ud9c
      @user-ln8we1ud9c 3 місяці тому +8

      The hawks tanked ? North have been bottom 2 for 5 years in a row 😳 and begged for assistance despite the assistance they were already getting

    • @dutchvanderlinde2488
      @dutchvanderlinde2488 3 місяці тому +1

      hawks tanked in 2004 and it worked..great club at drafting..then their is a lot of garbage clubs who cannot draft well

    • @swamistyle
      @swamistyle 3 місяці тому

      Don't worry Damo will start rehashing the racism saga again if the hawks get too much more positive media

    • @CoreyJones-kq1wj
      @CoreyJones-kq1wj 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@@dutchvanderlinde2488 you don't think the hawks got lucky in that draft getting roughhead and Franklin with their picks ?
      Richmond could have picked Franklin pick one or roughhead

  • @patkelly6349
    @patkelly6349 3 місяці тому +37

    Damo the assassin. A little dobber at school I bet

  • @darkmatter7301
    @darkmatter7301 3 місяці тому +18

    This is where Damo is a flog. Last week he says the Saints winning games at the end of the year is meaningless and gives no real kudos to it.
    Then a team like North who doesn’t win games at the end of the year he hammers. So clearly winning games at the end of the year is not meaningless, seriously just bagging everything he can.
    Yes terrible loss by North but just spitting out contradicting statements every week.

  • @Johnzki14
    @Johnzki14 3 місяці тому +6

    So sick of people saying Clarkos been here for two years. He coached like 4 games last year.
    2024 was his first full year and he can see the problems and what needs work. He’s turned a struggling club around before, I believe he can do it again.

    • @thetwogardens6048
      @thetwogardens6048 3 місяці тому

      Yeah , he will be coach of the Tassie Roos Soon ?

  • @Anfa18
    @Anfa18 3 місяці тому +6

    With the amount of issues North has had not only in the last few years but just in 2024 it's amazing how many players have resigned. 2 season ending ankle injuries by round 3 or 4 and then Tarryn Thomas problem. The only big name player at North who hasn't resigned is LDU who is still contracted till the end of next season. Xerri - signed till 2029, Sheezel signed till 2030, Zurhaar 2029 and Larkey 2029. Wardlaw, McKercher and Duursma are contracted till 2026 with their first contracts. The core is there but the biggest issue is the age of the team and lack of experience.

  • @peterbozich4433
    @peterbozich4433 3 місяці тому +19

    As a North supporter hard to believe we are still so uncompetitive.

    • @troy8979
      @troy8979 3 місяці тому +1

      To be fair, it's been a very even this year apart from a cpl of teams .

    • @IterImpiusnp
      @IterImpiusnp 3 місяці тому +5

      Feeling your pain. Looked like they’re about to become good, only to then crumble in a big heap 😞

    • @tubester4567
      @tubester4567 3 місяці тому +3

      We cant blame Clarko its not his fault. North is lucky he even took the job. North's recruiting has been bad for years but the real problem is the AFL who allows draft picks to refuse to play for teams like North, while allowing expansion teams like GWS to get endless A listers. North should have JHF, and Harley Reid right now. Whats the point of a draft if players can refuse to go to some clubs?
      I used to think it was North's fault but now I really think the AFL is deliberately killing North and they want them to die. The whole AFL system is rigged, the fixture is ridiculously unfair, and the game is being ruined by ridiculous rule changes and poor skills across the whole comp.

    • @samrobinson6396
      @samrobinson6396 3 місяці тому +2

      They’ll pop. Next year tipping is going to be a struggle because North will start to improve, west coast will still be terrible, and Richmond will be spooners for two years

    • @therandomherodb3378
      @therandomherodb3378 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@tubester4567what??? North could have had reid but beat gc to lose the number 1 draft pick and you let jhf go when you could have kept him he was under contract

  • @jerseyforhawks
    @jerseyforhawks 3 місяці тому

    Dominating. ❤

  • @xkimopye
    @xkimopye 3 місяці тому +7

    North keep stepping on rakes though. Found a great player in Tarryn Thomas, he kept screwing over north’s trust with abhorrent behaviour. Wanted Daicos, couldn’t get him with father son rule.
    Took JHF, he sooked back to Adelaide. Missed out on Harley Reid by not tanking, missed out on Sam Darcy from father son rule. Couldn’t get Ashcroft because of father son rule. Hired the best coach of the last 20 years, then old hawthorn problems interrupted his coaching.
    They’ve been at the bottom or there abouts for about 5 years and still don’t have a number one pick in the team. And north will likely have to settle for pick 3 because once again, father son rule.

    • @AlonsoRules
      @AlonsoRules 3 місяці тому +1

      Father Son Rule is a joke, it needs to go. So many drafts have been compromised by this.

    • @CoreyJones-kq1wj
      @CoreyJones-kq1wj 3 місяці тому

      ​@@AlonsoRulesyou're kidding right ? Daicos to Essendon or Darcy to GWS lol

    • @iceyd2226
      @iceyd2226 3 місяці тому

      Hawks have had a much worse hand in the draft past 4 years most years they ended up with basically pick 7 or 8 even after finishing 3rd last and they have taken un wanted fringe players and turned them into near on all Australians it's culture and recruitment that's held north back

    • @christopherantonopoulos8360
      @christopherantonopoulos8360 Місяць тому

      Father son is a great rule. Think of how Calsher feels playing for Hawthorn and feels.
      And Luke Hodge has 3 boys.
      One will play in backline and one will a forward and another in the guts.. I think rather son rule rules

  • @JustinSteele-gd5nu
    @JustinSteele-gd5nu 3 місяці тому +15

    If Clarko can't fix North, tell me who's out there that could?
    There ya go, just can the club 😂

    • @anthonylynch4737
      @anthonylynch4737 3 місяці тому

      Simmo.

    • @dutchvanderlinde2488
      @dutchvanderlinde2488 3 місяці тому +1

      yeah they were poor with no fans when they were great from 1993-2000 now are the most irrelevant club i think in the afl and probs the worse since demons around 2011 or dying fitzroy

    • @brad2064
      @brad2064 3 місяці тому +1

      Sam Mitchell would be much more effective, the game has moved past Clarko.

    • @sonnyjim7579
      @sonnyjim7579 3 місяці тому +1

      Malcolm Blight

    • @JustinSteele-gd5nu
      @JustinSteele-gd5nu 3 місяці тому +2

      @@anthonylynch4737 Clarko is apparently the best coach in history lol

  • @Andy-o2f
    @Andy-o2f 3 місяці тому +1

    The difference between the Hawthorn & North rebuilds is a sombre lesson in what happens when you gut your list too hard & too fast, and unfortunately Clarkson inherited this shot show. NMFC 2018-2024 is a lesson in all time administrative incompetence. I mean, what else do you expect from an AFL club that puts a sociologist in charge?

  • @ScottCassidy-c8f
    @ScottCassidy-c8f 3 місяці тому +1

    When did Hawthorn tank?

  • @taxads7791
    @taxads7791 3 місяці тому

    Wasnt Sonia Hood doing victory laps when they signed Clarko..practically telling the world to prepare for a dynasty of multiple premierships

  • @AlonsoRules
    @AlonsoRules 3 місяці тому +14

    Why has the AFL not been more realistic with the North situation - are they afraid of a big court case or Bulldogs style Fightback? North are not up to AFL standard.

    • @brendanh8193
      @brendanh8193 3 місяці тому +1

      What are you implying? Are you saying that they should get a compensation package? Probably not. Are you saying that they should be kicked out? Since when has performing poorly had any bearing on their continuing status? Never has.

    • @HeywoodJablowme7
      @HeywoodJablowme7 3 місяці тому +2

      Maybe because the afl won't acknowledge they have created this problem to begin with?
      Thanks to free agency where top players only go to top clubs not bottom clubs despite equalisation being the "reason" it hasn't worked.
      Father son and academies also mean north have never truly had access to the ACTUAL best talent in the past 5 years.
      Nick daicos was the real number 1, had to go with the risky jhf, couldn't get jef walker, Sam Darcy, ashcroft, ugly hagan the list goes on and on.
      Pretty sure those players would improve north's ability to compete but afl will deny the system they've created has led to this mess.

    • @CoreyJones-kq1wj
      @CoreyJones-kq1wj 3 місяці тому

      ​@@HeywoodJablowme7father son been around for ages. Not an excuse and Horne Francis is a good player

    • @1908fcim
      @1908fcim 3 місяці тому

      ​@@HeywoodJablowme7 Who is Jef Walker?

    • @HeywoodJablowme7
      @HeywoodJablowme7 3 місяці тому

      @@1908fcim Jed Walter

  • @brad2064
    @brad2064 3 місяці тому +6

    The game has moved past Clarkson. Hawthorn pulled the trigger on him for a reason.

  • @jackwaite4035
    @jackwaite4035 3 місяці тому +19

    No one bringing up how the media ran with the false Clarkson allegations and forced him out of the club for half of his tenure? Undermined his trust with the players? Nope? Fair enough 👍

    • @SiloGrain
      @SiloGrain 3 місяці тому +7

      False? 😂

    • @jackwaite4035
      @jackwaite4035 3 місяці тому +8

      @@SiloGrain you’re right, any word uttered by an aboriginal is true 👍

    • @Trixter1771
      @Trixter1771 3 місяці тому +5

      ​@@jackwaite4035 You've got the intelligence of a 3 year old I see.

    • @jackwaite4035
      @jackwaite4035 3 місяці тому +1

      @@Trixter1771 Nice straw man 👍

    • @never7745
      @never7745 3 місяці тому +5

      @@jackwaite4035every bit of Clarko’s history points to him being fully capable of it, it doesn’t look good

  • @IterImpiusnp
    @IterImpiusnp 3 місяці тому

    Out of those players Kane Cornes mentioned on a 5yr contract: The only one that’s a star is Griffin Logue. Zurharr is close, yet too inconsistent

  • @englishquizfactory
    @englishquizfactory 3 місяці тому +5

    This has seriously gone on long enough. Nth Melb needs to fold as a club. With Tassie coming in, theres no room for Nth Melb. Unfortunately, it’s just so obvious. The club is doomed

  • @mattymac2012
    @mattymac2012 3 місяці тому

    Pies had the best story lol

  • @andyandrew7557
    @andyandrew7557 3 місяці тому

    North should try to target Jack McCrae from the dogs as an experienced player if they dont have to give up much. They are interested in Wines from and Parker but I think McCrae would be a good fit at North for leadership.and hes an experienced finals player with the Dogs.

  • @jimmyriddle5246
    @jimmyriddle5246 3 місяці тому

    One day ( I'm not sure when), Barrett will say something worth listening to. But I'm not holding my breath

  • @tysongibbs5809
    @tysongibbs5809 3 місяці тому

    North Should Be Way Above Playing Like An All Abilities Side By Now, But Yet? No Progress Has Been Made. Full Review Needed & Whoever Says Hawks Tanked! SHUT IT!🤐

  • @adrak91
    @adrak91 3 місяці тому +2

    AFL has 2 to many teams in it, bottom 2 finishers should go back to the state comp for a season every year. would make the competition fairer and give them a chance to develop assuming they can win the VFL. then they come back into the AFL and 2 other teams drop out-relegated.

    • @lucaseric8679
      @lucaseric8679 3 місяці тому +3

      This is the worst idea I've heard trying to fix this issue 😂
      You think they would improve if a lower leauge? You think players would want to stick around players reserves? How will they survive once they drop half their members because they're not playing in the top flight, against the best, in the best stadiums.
      If you want to relegate a club, we would probably need to have a population of around the UK's to have a talent pool big enough to allow that many clubs and players to even exist.
      How would you like it if your club bottomed out and everyone wanted to just get rid of you lol we need to stop talking about trashing a 100 year old club.

  • @hipsterrob3591
    @hipsterrob3591 3 місяці тому +4

    Clarckson wasnt there last year too busy dealing with his old club, its not surprising they've had a backward step this year they lost their prized key backman letting everyone score on them.
    Its odd cornes says he knows that blues were injury affected and forgets pies and tiges were also on there it was an unexpectedly soft run on the back end for the hawks
    The blues last would flog west coast by similar margins last year then lose to competitive teams. This commentary is a bit clueless.

    • @HeywoodJablowme7
      @HeywoodJablowme7 3 місяці тому +2

      North lost goater and CCJ in the first 2 games.... logue played 2 games for the year, wardlaw,.simpkin, sheezel at the end, fisher, combden all missed games.
      North's first 5 games were against grand finalist Brisbane, Geelong at Geelong, freo, preliminary finalist gws and preliminary finalist Carlton....
      With the youngest list in the league here you go kids, take on the best of the best and good luck getting early form and continuity in your season....
      Next year north's first 16 teams will all be against the top 8 teams.... twice....and all away games.... go on young guns, improve and show us what you got.

  • @SuspectAccount
    @SuspectAccount 3 місяці тому +3

    Clarko stealing a living. If he had any honour at all he'd resign. I don't expect it.

  • @Tanche92
    @Tanche92 3 місяці тому

    Gee

  • @Andy-o2f
    @Andy-o2f 3 місяці тому

    WHY is the "question mark" never about the clown show that IS the NMFC board!!! How much longer can they throw coaches under the bus and get away with it! WHERE is the Walsh Report?!

  • @anthonylynch4737
    @anthonylynch4737 3 місяці тому

    The whole racism scandal ruined the momentum with Clarkson at North .Give him another year,and if things don't improve bring Simmo back home to North..

    • @user-ln8we1ud9c
      @user-ln8we1ud9c 3 місяці тому

      Excuses excuses. Clarkson has had more draft capital to work with then west coast and hawthorn combined but still couldn't do better it's a terrible effort.

    • @anthonylynch4737
      @anthonylynch4737 3 місяці тому

      @@user-ln8we1ud9c Well maybe Simmo might be better at North in 2026.

  • @rosscurrant8940
    @rosscurrant8940 3 місяці тому

    So Mitchell is using the same game plan that Clarko used at Hawthorn and he’s coach of the year lol. Go back to 2018 and just change the names, game plan is identical. Hawthorn s only advantage at this point over everyone else is fitness, they run and spread and run all day. Fitness matters most in the modern game. They are elite and that’s not a head coach attribute

    • @garthodowd6846
      @garthodowd6846 3 місяці тому

      😂 clearly you're not a Hawthorn supporter and you don't watch their games .
      Sam coaches NOTHING like Clarkson..
      But nice try.

    • @rosscurrant8940
      @rosscurrant8940 3 місяці тому

      Maybe you need to watch a bit closer lol. It’s not about who is who. But yeah, you believe what you want 😂

    • @glennwalker2996
      @glennwalker2996 3 місяці тому

      ​@@rosscurrant8940clarko played keepings off chip chip chip! Sam has gone with versatility and not 2 but 4 elite small forwards! No were near clarko plan! Not even close! Clarko had 2 swingmen silk and hodge! Sam has weddle day amon newc ciss now battle mckenzie watson ginni moore all versatile! And all teams are lucky to have 2 dynamic small forwards hawks have 5! No were near clarko style not even close! Fast fit run all day machine and 13 players under 23 good luck stopping this new powerhouse with battle and barrass next year and even more top trades next 5 years! 🤎💛💪🏆🏆🏆🏆 more coming next 10 years! We are the second youngest team in the comp and in last 12 weeks the best most dangerous team in the game! Good luck stopping this new powerhouse by hawks yet again! 😂

  • @Dontomatios
    @Dontomatios 3 місяці тому

    About time they called this dump club out , no matter the propaganda king and Montagna try spread

  • @brucejensen3081
    @brucejensen3081 3 місяці тому +2

    Helps when you have all Australian premiership players to trade for picks and bottom out for 5 years.

    • @TheDiablo3WD
      @TheDiablo3WD 3 місяці тому +4

      Which premiership player did we trade for picks?, we just drafted well in the draft, MSD and traded for players not getting a game for their own clubs in Chol, Ginnivan, D'Ambrosio and Meek ect

    • @moistie
      @moistie 3 місяці тому +1

      Here's the draft breaking stash of picks Hawthorn got for trading out:
      Hodge and pick 44 to the Lions for pick 43 and 75
      Mitchell, pick 54 and pick 72 for pick 52 and 70
      Lewis, pick 57 and 68 for pick 48 and 66
      Hill for pick 23
      Hell of a haul for those Premiership players.

    • @jsequine927
      @jsequine927 3 місяці тому +1

      More like nailing just about every trade, rookie, and draft pick since 2018 turns you into a contender. We got diddly squat for our “All Australian” stars, including Lance Franklin, who was worth 3 first rounders at the time.

  • @LordChester33
    @LordChester33 3 місяці тому

    Clarkson has taken North for a ride.

    • @garthodowd6846
      @garthodowd6846 3 місяці тому

      How so ?
      They didn't have to offer him a contract

  • @DunningKrugerJnr
    @DunningKrugerJnr 3 місяці тому

    Browny has a bad base of spitty mouth with his fake choppers 😂

  • @Ruggedrails
    @Ruggedrails 3 місяці тому

    Hahaaaahhhhaaaa so much keyboard warriors

  • @jsequine927
    @jsequine927 3 місяці тому +1

    Remind us of your opinions on the Hawks last season and after round 5 Damo? You’re 25 years into your career and your analysis seriously needs to be looked at. Can’t keep making horrific calls and coasting through another season

  • @Ruggedrails
    @Ruggedrails 3 місяці тому

    List changes needed
    At North
    Stephenson thank you good luck
    Drury thank you good luck
    Hamish free thank you good luck
    Aidan Corr thank you good luck
    Luke McDonald thank you good luck
    Trade out Coleman jones Logue Fisher Tucker
    Targets- Lord port power
    Riccardi GWS
    Baker and Rioli Richmond
    Noble Collingwood
    Pittonett Carlton
    Pickett Melbourne

    • @Ruggedrails
      @Ruggedrails 3 місяці тому

      Love Duursma but definitely not showing his true talent enough yet needs to be put in next year is a 2 goal a game player regularly but his defence needs work worth the risk as he definitely has the ability
      K Dawson and Will Dawson with Comben down back Archer bring in Maley as well our defence will improve as we produce a lot more attack time to trade all our picks for good players who are not stars but fit into the style of play we are capable of attacking football

    • @Ruggedrails
      @Ruggedrails 3 місяці тому

      And finally get Zac Touhy as an assistant coach need the Geelong mindset in our club

  • @darrensharman971
    @darrensharman971 3 місяці тому

    I'm a North supporter yesterday was shocking but we do need help we need an experienced player or 2 to help drive the culture hopefully we can find some this off season but we definitely need another assistance package with picks that will help us land an experienced player

    • @_..Justin-Case.._
      @_..Justin-Case.._ 3 місяці тому +7

      If you need another assistance package you need to leave the AFL

    • @darrensharman971
      @darrensharman971 3 місяці тому

      @_..Justin-Case.._ the afl will not allow that to happen again

    • @PeterM1-qx1tz
      @PeterM1-qx1tz 3 місяці тому

      Fck mate do you expect the other clubs to just hand you a premiership cup? West Coast are playing as pathetic as your mob are but at least they aren't squealing like a ten year old girl who didn't get a pony for Christmas . ... the Eagles were bottom of the ladder in 2010 from memory... they turned it around WITHOUT special assistance, and won a flag in 2018, Stop your whining and get on with it man!!

    • @PeterM1-qx1tz
      @PeterM1-qx1tz 3 місяці тому

      Eagles were bottom in the early 2010's they turned it around and won a flag in 2018... So north do NOT need a special assistance package, they need to stop expecting handouts , knuckle down and get to work.

    • @metalgodz69
      @metalgodz69 3 місяці тому +4

      if a player has a choice to go to either north melbourne or geelong ( This is just an example .don't jump on my back ) where do you think that player will go ????
      last round the bottom 3 side's lost by a combined total of approx 220 point's ....packages my arse , clarkson has to make some brutal call's .
      Hardest decision's r the the most painful to make .....just make them for the right reasons

  • @paulverdon4362
    @paulverdon4362 3 місяці тому +1

    these guys are painful, why did i watch that, w⚓'s

  • @paulmatters2641
    @paulmatters2641 3 місяці тому

    Kane is a true son of the prison bar crowd. There is no hanging fruit he hasnt picked, no bloke on the floor he hasnt put the pommie revolver into. Typical of the coach booing, stretcher booing and banana throwing bunch of grubs.