The Greatest Mak'Gora So Far, INSANE Skill
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after the makgora baiting Hozi did with the gearswaps, he deserved to die 100% to someone that just outplays him :) happy to hear him say he invested a lot of time in this char, minutes before dying.
100% I'm glad someone said it. Lost all respect for him.
Rat rogue falls again, the bait switch sealed his fate weeks ago
What do you expect? There is pretty much 0 chance to beat mage as melee in classic... that is the only chance. You just showed you have no idea and you never accept any Mak'Gora in your life🤡🤡. You should have respect just by the fact, he accepted it against the game
why?@@bigmarty6670
100% agreed, that baiting is the lamest shit imaginable
Got me refreshing your channel all day every day Xaryu. Always happy when I see a new video posted. Thanks for the content dude.
Just subscribe an hit the bell noti and u won't have to waste your time bro lol showing how smart u are Lil bro lol
Bro you are good asf at calling out and letting us now whats up. And your reaction is always funny too, keep up the good work xar.
he's a multiple rank 1 mage in retail. he is a master of his craft. we love to see it
Except for noticing mage was using rank 1 frost bolt XD, I’m just taking a piss though, that was really good commentary.
the offensive ice block at the end to apply pressure on Hozi was fucking perfect. that aint a blunder at all, that was asserting dominance and taking the upper hand
He called the mana shield a blunder not the ice block
I believe it was the blink toward Hozi at the end that was called a blunder. The ice block at the end to block the iron grenade was masterful.
my man stayed stealth until character creation
One lesson we learned in HC makgora, never fight a mage
That mage was also insanely good. Like ziqo/xar level good. Not many mages in the game could have pulled off that. Lots of arm chair twitchful glads will say it was nothing but to play PERFECT and outplay for 20min straight is insane.
yes because the fights are always 15 minutes
Except the Level 30 Mak'gora tourn on PTR was won by a warrior
Yeah he only faced rogues@@jrblackify
30 sec sheep so good xD@@nuck-
(baits people with BiS gear in mak'gora's and kills them)
Then proceeds to make excuses when losing an even duel
"I'm not trying to be toxic guys"
I'm glad hozi lost.
Amen!
what does BiS gear mean?
@@derel5880 he put low gear and bait ppl to makgora, when they accepted he switched to bis gear on that lvl..or almost bis ale kill them easily
best in slot@@derel5880
@@derel5880best in slot, ie best gear he could get at that level
IMO this is a rogue-favored duel. For one, FAP is more effective for a rogue than any potion is for a mage. Second, mage has no ice barrier yet, but rogue has pretty much all his major pvp tools already at this level.
No IB, but rogue (with prep) is lacking a lot of burst damage as well in 30% critdmg and cold blood. I think rogue v mage at the 35 bracket is still favored because of how powerful magic resist potion is early on, as well as hozito's ability to bandage to nearly full
Crazy duel
the mage was fucking nuts with the instant blizzard reactions to both vanishes.
This perfectly illustrates what is possible at the top 1%. I'm pushing 50 (I was mid-20s when Vanilla came out), and all I can do is watch this in awe. There were a couple of times where I knew what was coming, but for the most part, I just had to watch and wonder with my mouth wide open. Wow, I've played a rogue before (never that well), but I've never taken a mage to max level. I think I will!
Need an update chief, you living the mage dream??
mage played that borderline perfect
That was an amazing duel. Hozito needed to hard reset after that last blind but of course it's hard to play that disciplined, especially when streaming. GGs
This is not a mage favored duel. I remember Xar called it a 50-50 duel back in classic., and that was even when the duels were normal and pots weren't allowed. The fact that people can use fap on a two-minute cooldown definitely makes the duel rogue favored. The mage simply outplayed hozi in this duel.
Yeah cause chain poly doesn’t completely negate fap. Chill out you 1400cr classic Andy.
That mage was actually crazy.
That was the best duel I've ever seen.
How to always catch a rogue vanish: macro a mouseover rank 1 blizzard > when casting spells spam this macro directly over them. If they vanish you will immediately cast blizzard and catch them.
How to win rogue vs mage: get improved sprint to counter nova/slows
The mage deserved that, one of the best performances I've ever seen
That was the only time I sat up properly to watch a WoW vid.
So as a mage if you drop a portal and click it before you die is that a way to save your character lol would it work?
Yeah but you would get coward debuff
Please jeep the hozi dying content coming!
Hozi thought he had it with cringe resist pots. So glad he got bodied
he should have started to use the shoot ability earlier. Would have been even closer, if not a win. In the first exchanges he was not using it, and he could have.
HOLY gigachad mage, the rogue had 10 times better gear too, the amount of life was ridiculous
That was the craziest duel ive seen in vanilla holy shit what a nailbiter
Awesome duel, great breakdown
Best dual I’ve ever seen.
After seeing Hozi play like a real POS and bait people with gear swaps I really enjoyed seeing karma catch up to him.
This is the guy you need to worry about in real life…
Why do you say that
Best duel and comentating! This waz great!
sap > cheap (without breaking sap) > re-stealth > sap > cheap (without breaking sap) > gouge > death ray + evisc. If mage doesn't block that, it's over. GG, you now have 2 free blinds the mage can't get out of. fap + sprint at that momentum and mage can't do shit. Hozi is just not used to the matchup.
This is without pointing out Hozi's actual mistakes in the duel as well.
At 60, it's also rogue favored. You just can't deal with a rogue that knows how to keep up a momentum with imp sprint x2, vanish x2, blind x2, and that's just regular toolkit. Factor in spider belt, faps and whatnot, and rogue just can't lose. They will never sit a nova.
This is why that in actual duels between 2 good people, that understand the game, only certain consumes are agreed upon (which is usually just health pots and mana pots).
I'm happy to see hozi die. If you wanna get ears from the other faction through mok'goras, awesome. But he was actually baiting members of his own faction, and that is pretty shitty.
theres no actual pvp in hardcore, why would he care about factions?
Awsome commentary !!!
Love the rogue/mage duels. Something pure about them.
I think the reason is that they are both the ultimate glass cannons of 2 opposite extremes, with every other class in between. This is also part of the reason why classic is superior- retail doesn't have anything pure about it
Ziqo talks about the magic resistance potion thou :)
This is the best duel I've ever seen in classic.
So nice to see the karma come back for the rogue for doing that shitty gear swap duel in the barrens.
This was so fun. Thanks for the commentary too.
love how every clip that one streamer is in he trashtalks and then dies
8:22 he could hide before trees................
That was one of the worst "decked" rogues I have ever seen, full of resistance pots, and still lost that. The mage basically beat him 4 times in a row if it weren't for the OP resistances.
Sweet duel, best I've seen.
What addon are they using that shows status effects fight above their heads
Great duel but people like that are the worst “I lost cause I don’t even play this game” meanwhile hes a beast and already had a 60 priest in HC bloodsail Buccaneers
Never used spider belt from what i see.
Is that PRE from SOM? :) bis mage pvper
Holy .. Great duel!
Mage played it almost perfect
Rogue used free action potion and gives blind😂
Mage was Prepare. Literally.
Well, I'm simply not cut out for a makgora, these players are kinda nuts
what is the item used on hozi at 6:38?
So if you sit you get 100% crited when hited??
HIS BLUNDER was getting baited by chat and not resetting waiting for CDs for that 5 minutes
When you play for the crowd, you need to please the crowd.
Specially if you want that 200$ reward.
He just crumbled under spectators-demanding-spectacle pressure.
Both players did amazingly well! Anybody who doesn't see this, is biased or hasn't played wow classic at all.
I've seen some comments saying that classic is boring because it's simpler than retail. More complex doesn't mean better every time. Look at Dark Souls- that game is far simpler even than wow classic, and yet beloved by most people worldwide. In fact, I'd argue that the more attainable skill cap of classic, is what makes the game better than retail wow. I should add that imo, wotk had the perfect amount of complexity, at least pvp wise.
Wow retail PVP these days is full on bullshit. Every class has self healing. Spells barely do ANY damage. Everyone has 10 million HP. Every tiny fight becomes a boring slugfest like Destiny. yawn.
If you watch Ziqo's review of this duel, you realize Hozito actually made quite a few mistakes
y did he use spider belt, y didnt he swapped trinkets the time he got the stealth off after beign ktied all day to the net. y didnt he use his trinket on that last frost bite.
I disagree on this being a mage favored duel. In typical WSG/AB play where a rogue isn't in an isolated 1v1 environment with no outside influences and likely has 1 or several cooldown missing you could say it would be mage favored. But in a 6+ minute long duel with all cooldowns available and with multiple FAPs this is not a mage favored duel anymore. With all tools, potions, engi items, and consumables at your expense rogues are the king of 1v1 dueling, this has been well known for classic era for a while (world of roguecraft?), and although vanilla WoW is very rock paper scissors rogues have the most amount of winnable matchups over other classes and builds (SL locks are strong 1v1 too). There are several things hozito could have done to essentially guarantee a victory and he missed them. One gouged blink at the beginning at 0:20 -ish would have forced an early ice block burn, potentially allowing that death ray to connect afterward. Rocket helm at the end there when the mage was wanding with ice block down, low hp, and no mana and it would have been over for the mage. That being said the mage played really really well and against probably 99% of other mages hozito would likely have bodied them. I think hozito underestimated him, just my personal opinion judging by how hard he went in at the beginning and didn't save energy for gouge and didn't position himself to be able to even get attempt a gouge on that blink. Getting a gouge off there would have completely changed this fight.
The johns 😂
I love watching high level duels like this.
Great duel, thanks for content.
Hozi botched the opener three times, he would have won otherwise. It was pretty close though!
what server is this on?
You don't get guaranteed crit from people sitting down anymore. At least not on Classic release, but maybe they de-fixed it. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong
You're wrong.
It doesn't trigger on-crit effects like Enrage if you sit down though.
Hozi played it p good, but if he had prevented the final poly he woulda won. He shoulda maybe tried cheapshot tricks in sap, the garrote 5pt rupture before his sap breaks.
Hozi played garbo
are we sure Xar and hozito were actually friends with how much xar was rooting for the mage? XD
This mage will be legend now. he defeated hozito
Should of use Magic Dust, it has a much longer range than you think. You have to stand still to use it (He tried to use it while running at the mage while in range to cast it).
He also had trinket up at the end and didn't use it.
Good duel.
3:45 can someone explane me the reason why to use Counterspell vs rog? in this case for example
to keep him in combat
mages are too fucking op in classic, the rogue literally has no way to shorten the distance
Level 1 frost bolt to keep the slow up
The satisfaction seeing hozi die after that priest bis video is indescribable. Karmas a B
hozito didnt pressure him enough. If he applied garrotes or ruptures or even gouged his blink once it would be GG in opener.
agreed but gouging blink is like the penultimate rogue pvp move vs mages not many can even do it. took me years of dueling and BGs on classic private servers to get it down
@@mistfitsable its rather simple tbh you just cheap shot insta gouge its just baiting the mage to use his only out of stuns
@@Genmurasaki idk maybe but i think a good mage, like the one in this video, isnt going to waste his block there if he gets gouged before blink goes off. He will just wait for the rogue to open again and insta blink since it wouldn't be on cooldown. You are right however that method does work on most average mage players though. Hitting gouge on the blink, blinking the mage into an incapacitate is game changing for the fight. They at that point HAVE to block as the rogue is running at them. By the time they block and unblock the rogue is in range to blind them immediately coming out of the block before they can cold snap. At this point ice block AND blink is down and the rogue can pretty much clap them in a stunlock.
I could watch mage vs rogue all day.
Not sure why Hozi doesn't trinket the slow/nova at the end. If he connects with sprint and the mage being oom its over.
Cause it doesn’t remove it
rogue trinket doesn't remove roots or slows. charm, fear and poly only. the pvp trinkets remove different things on different classes on vanilla.
Thanks. I know the pvp trinkets are different but I thought the rogue trinket did slow. Should of wowheaded first lol. My bad!!
@@d3lus10nhe needed improved sprint. I always take imp sprint on a pvp server. Otherwise mage eats your lunch all day.
DAMN!
Xaryu needs an oscar tho
true, mage played it really well.. but also, rogue played it very bad
he couldve two shot him since the opener.. he has literally every resist pot you can have, he didnt get any damage the first 30 secs and instead of closing gap he was backing off like a puss
GO OUTSIDE 😂🤣👍🤣😂
Another Makgora, another mage win.
Dude with all those pots etc u can use its not mage favor duel.
Probably not going to watch someone who lets his own chat bait him into salt
legendary mak gora
you can UD racial out of the gnomish stun, pretty sure.
Mage played 99% perfect. Anyway. Clearly the right guy won the duel :D
he ruined it making excuses at the end
Great duel, great plays
poly, poly, block, poly, poly, frostbolt, frostbolt - man this mage is playing really well...
Shhh... You gonna trigger them frost mage's trying to explain of skilled their class is...
damn that was close though. GG Josito, much respect
There should be a higher chance to resist rank 1 spells based on your level. Rank 1 frostbolt spam is absolute aids.
That is why he had level 1 just to keep slowing up on him not for the damage
Why didn't the mage just stream snipe the rogue to find him in stealth? Its a mak'gora, anything goes, right?
Don't most streamers use a delay?
@jrblackify I think twitch has a 30 second delay base so yeah it probably wouldn't work huh.
Saved trinket for next char:D
Mage was badass. But plenty of bad mages out there too that would have gone down hard. Everyone seems to fear mages in HC, but I won't accept duels because that's not what I'm there for. And I suck at PvP so I'd definitely die, even if by all rights I should win.
" I suck at PvP so I'd definitely die, even if by all rights I should win" - what??? Hahah, that sounds really dumb. If you suck at pvp then by all rights you should LOSE. As you would, since you suck at pvp as stated by yourself...
Guess the mage is 200$ richer now.
Though is that even allowed on twitch? I thought real money prizes are against TOS or does that only count for rng giveaways?
Xar I would love to see more New World content from you. Mage build, PvP, 1vsX, dps tests. The new PvP system. Outpost rush etc. etc. With so much new content and changes in the game, now it’s the best time for it.
My main back in vanilla was a rogue and I still remember how hard it was to win a duel against a mage in low level. You have to play it so perfectly ... and often that isn't enough. It's all depending on the mage, if he plays flawless there isn't really much you can do.
Rogue tears. So tasty. Not even a main of either class
@commanderpp with the proper trinkets, pots, talents, and excellent rogue play, it's a 50/50. All a mage has to do is show up, though. So, no, an average rogue vs an average mage is not a 50/50. Not even close.
watching streamers die makes me zmile
after having so many victims where he changes his gear after duel accept , him dying like this feels like sex
Does the loser perma death?
Yes
He should fix his nameplates😂 it shows the cc 3 times lol
did rouge actually made a mistake by not waiting 2-3 minutes more for vanish to come off cd ?
Of course but it's very lame to wait that long so it's fair play from him to not wait.
@@RaimaNdlame or death, choose one
@@RaimaNd it is more lame to die at lvl 35
i was the mage