Nursing schools accused of issuing bogus diplomas
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- Опубліковано 5 лип 2024
- Around 8,000 fake degrees may have come from several schools owned by the same company.
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The first thing about any school is to check to see if they are accredited
They knew and didn’t care.
They were
Believe me, they didn't care, they wanted the short cut.
That’s dangerous
99.9% of what you learn for nursing is learned when you get your job. You learn some in school but you barely learn the basics. What you need to look at is the Educational program. Are they upset because people were able to pass the Nursing Boards without all the training they say you need? Nursing Boards are not easy.
It took 4 years to become an RN going on 17yrs👏👏 now BUT it was one of the Hardest things I've ever done in my life...Blood sweat and tears...I'm glad I pushed through and best decision I ever made. My advice you want to be a nurse GREAT....just go through a real school.
I WANT EVERYONE of those students/Frauds/dummys to be held accountable for there actions this is a Disgrace
A huge red flag 🚩 is when the school only takes cash....and doesn't use or qualify for Pell Grants or other loans
Stop looking for shortcuts!!!
Why would I put my life in someone's hands who look for shortcuts. Crumbling healthcare system...
Wow that's crazy SMH
When you go to a strip mall where people sell bootleg DVDs in a store a few spots down for your nursing degree.. how are you surprised.
Yeah I saw the list on Texas board of nurses. Of ppl who had their license revoked or lied about being licensed crazy.
Wow, I thought they taught classes but were not accredited. I had no idea it was this deep. This is scary.
The board of nursing should only allow students to take the nclex from accredited colleges/universities period.
Well there’s are way they got around that do. Many may be did it I. A particular stay that was more lenient on credentials. That state should have their requirements changed
@@c.edales740 it is the state fault for allowing them to take care of others...very sad....poor patients and their families.
@@moij5962 while the state has a responsibility. They go hand in hand. People are to desperate to be nurses. Unfortunately the nursing profession is plagued by people who are lacking in character, morale and ethics. This this what happens. That school was on probation for a while. In addition to that if anyone called the state of Florida they would have known. However paying thousands of dollars for becoming a nurse without attending classes was more important. Being unlawful and unethical was more important. Jeopardizing peoples lives was more important. Most of these persons don’t do the state board in Florida. They went out to Nevada. Now the state board of nursing in Nevada needs to tight requirements for lincensure. It’s more than pay money and not attending classes to be a nurse. It takes good judgement, character and hard work. At a time when the profession is faced with overwhelming low staff ratio and other factors. The least that needed are persons who are no committed to accountability.
@Sara I just found out that when the school are brand new, they have to get 2 years of students attending and passing the Nclex before they can become accredited. So if the boards only allowed students from accredited schools take the nclex, then how would the schools begin?
So it didn’t strike you that something was wrong? You attended no CLINICAL or LAB? And finished “school” for $17,000 and then “graduated” and sat for NCLEX? They want pity when they should be charged. Even if you still went to “classes” you didn’t do clinical work.
Thank you! Her mom was a nurse ffs so she should have known better!
Who in first place allow these schools to operate? I would go after the Department of Educations in those States and even the FED USDOE if they allow or provided Student Loans in those institutions
They started the illegal activity after they were approved to operate. Neither the government or the board of nursing can predict and bar approval before the crime happens.
The board of nursing of fl
Well the feds are involved, now!
@jewels24k does not matter when they started the illegal activites. It was the board of nursing of fl responsibility to keep up with regulations, since those schools are not accredited by any other agencies. i find that hard to believe that they needed the fbi to tell them that these transcripts we're fake . They knew... they we're negligent and didn't care as they needed those nurse's by any means necessary, to slave in their shitty ass healthcare system . Especially down there in FL . the board was the same one who placed multiple of those same schools on probation , for low passing rates.It's bs the board of nursing of fl need to be
Investigated as thoroughly as those schools we're. alot of those people we're immigrants. Hispanics Haitians and africans . Trust and believe they had help on the inside. one thing about immigrants they are afraid of law inforcement , if they knew they would be caught so easily, they wouldn't have gone this far so someone had them convinced that this would be legit
@pinkleather6725 It does matter when the illegal activities were committed. They can only take action after the crime is committed. The transcripts were attained illegally through legally approved schools, whether they were accredited or not. There is a difference between approval and accreditation. A school can have a provisional accreditation until their passing rates/time periods are met. However, the bigger picture here, which is what I don't think you realize, is that the schools were actually legit schools. That wasn't the problem. The problem was they were selling the degrees/diplomas/certifications without many of (but not all of) the students actually doing the work and passing didactic and clinical competenies. So again, yes, it does matter when the crime happens. The crime was not done before approval. Had it been, then of course, the schools would never have been approved. Once the crimes were discovered, they were all shut down.
She was like I went to 12 months of nursing school what do you mean my nursing diploma is fake.
Please, there is no excuse that could justify obtaining a nursing license without attending class and the clinical rotations. Patient safety is at risk. Every nurse that paid for their schooling without attending class should have there license revoked. The nurses must prove that they submitted their assignments, provide documented correspondence from their professors every semester and provide proof of the documented clinical rotations that coincides with the school's curriculum. Without the appropriate documentation, all licenses should be revoked.
Well I don’t care about her or what’s she said
@@frankmike263 all students who did not attend classes and clinical should be arrested.
Some of those "students" should be charged, too. If they took no classes.
Exactly, if they bought the degree.
The licensing body fined one of them $150,000.
How about charging the people that let these institutions run to begin with. The department of health and education where are they? Next should be Caribbean medical schools.
No short cut in medicine my 🤝 dear... folk lives is attached!!
This lady is in denial
Some of these schools were accredited then later lost accreditation. How are those students to blame? There's always two sides to a story . Some schools had several complaints against them that were closed out by the state. Those who were truly victims should be given opportunity to turn things around.
$17000??!!! Jeezus!!
this is scary, I spent 2 years taking my pre requisites, and waiting for my luck coz a lot of schools in Cali are doing lottery. Decided to go for LVN program so I can do LVN -RN bridge ( no waiting on this program). Total of 7 years to finish my BSN , I cried, almost gave up to pass the class. This is so unfair , sometimes i wonder if some nurses really went to RN program because I encountered a lot who don't know shit at all. we went to clinicals 3 days a week you should learn or know something?
So desantis comes to nyc to talk about crime yet look at what is going on there
If they looked it up they would know the lpn u can obtain in a year or 2 at the right school. Not something u can just buy and then take a test
You can do it in 1 year and yes, they sell those too.... illegally of course.
Everything in life is for sale. We just don't all have the money or lack of morality to buy.
A lot of these students crying victim know what they did. You don't just go to a couple of classes and think you earn a degree. Especially if you were asked to pay 15k. The people that passed the nclex definitely had some background, so I knew it wasn't that easy. They took a shortcut, and they should be banded from nursing for life. The woman hiding herself during this interview, in my opinion, knew she did wrong. If you did nothing wrong, why hide your face and be anonymous?.
Because until they're convicted they're still allowed to work. She doesn't want to put her livelihood in jeopardy even though it will be eventually......
@@kmarcpark How about, if you/your loved one were the patient?
Not everyone went in and bought a degree. She said she attended class in person and online. When covid came along students didn't even do clinicals.
Well insome cases they was saying the classes was online and in person but it was only 9-12 months... They almost got me..... But I been a Nurse aide for years so certain stuff was a red flag that's why I didn't do it
She said she doesn't blame "the job," she blames the school.
Oh My! All 8000 Florida fake nurses should be in jail.
It is so hard to get into nursing school in my state. Only people with great grades and teas score get in. There are 50 spots for 300 people on a waiting list in my school. ASN to become an RN takes about 3 years. I am sorry she became an RN in 12 months how?...
What a shame!
Didn't the agent say, "It's unfortunate for those that did the right thing and went through the program"? So he is saying some of these nurses did the program the right way, but that is not what they reported before. The truth gradually coming out and I feel bad for them now.
They are dumb. There is no right way to get a nursing degree in a year. So no they did not do the right thing.
@@shaylinmonk9208 You can become an LPN in a year. There are LPN to Rn programs that are 12 months.
@@controlmyownlife8902 yup in newyork the boad of education i paid 1,200 for the lpn got it in 10 months then paid 3,000 for my rn in12.working at a hospital sence 2003 but they no longer have those.classes.
@afro Puerto Rican dang!
I missed out on that one!
I didn't know you can take nursing classes online
The nursing board should be investigated too because how was these people able to pass the NCLEX test
Because the school was accredited. They were fine. Then they got greedy. Now everyone is going to pay.
Believe me, these student knew this was a shortcut! They probably weren't smart enough for a real nursing school. No pitty here. U want them taking care of your family members. Short answer... No!!!
I took correspondence course to become chief of surgery at Lincoln hospital and was shocked when I was fired after they saw degree printed on used papers with white out.
Why would you even want to go this route? You're not LEARNING to be a nurse. I'm glad this happened because God forbid one of these people have to help my family members. Smdh. Stop trying to take the easy way out and actually do the work it takes to become a REAL nurse.
I just don’t understand scammers. They leave destruction everywhere. But you have to be diligent as well and check several sources
I don’t feel bad…. they knew the risk they were taking…just didn’t think they’d get caught 🤷🏾♀️
All of them knew what they getting into. They all need to be charged as well.
@@roberthetondreau1206 agreed
if they didnt take classes how did they sit for NCLEX they need to investigate that part as well no way they could pass the tedt without the schooling.Jts a chaun all the way to State Board of Nursing.
I just met a student who said their school
Cut their learning to online. And they cut their preceptorship and also stopped responding to concerns and questions. I will report this school
As well . I don’t think it’s the students fault. And they can’t get their money back.
They all wanted to be quick nurses. We are dealing with peoples lives ….. there are no shortcuts.
First of any body can open up a school but the accreditation is what matters. But I really think NO SCHOOL SHOULD BE TEACHING ANY COURSE IF THE ACCREDITATION HASNT BE IMPLEMENTED.
A lot of people don’t know the difference so please stop making people feel stupid. All they see is training and nursing. Especially if you can get financial aid.
I found that out from a union class I took.
If they don't know the difference they have no business being in medicine.
@@terryl.cooper That's why they're going to school to know, To learn.
"I:m sad because I paid for nursing diploma without going to classes or clinicals.... where be my refund".... lmao, these people....
It’s hard to believe her story especially when she said her mother is a nurse. The mother should have known something was up🤷🏽♀️
This is what happens when you take out trades and technical skills out of high school s in the US. The people buying them had to be in the field for yrs without certification or a degree and couldn’t increase their pay rate bc of it. Nursing is mostly hands on experience. It has to be in you not on you.
There is an expression that if it sounds too good to be true. Then it probably is sorry for all of these people who were taken to the cleaners by people who just want to make money... So sorry for you but you must go to an accredited school or no one will hire would be foolish to hire some 1 who does not have their. 4 year degree. And to take a state exam and pass it... As they say we have to have people who are qualified to take care of the patient and have the proper education as is true with any field as a retired nurse. I am so sorry that these places are out there taking advantage of people but there are no shortcuts to becoming a nurse
It's palm beach...I'm not surprised
Florida…the state of little governmental oversight
Big fkn shock there.
The girl interviewed said she went to school online and in person for a year. Everyone I know that has a nursing license had a four year degree (at least/masters sometimes), one year practicals, then the exam. How did she expect to complete degree in such a short time? Sounds wrong, even if she doesn't think it was.
No my daughter went to a jr. college where u could get a practical nursing degree in a year and a registered nursing degree in two years.They had small campuses all over the area, so if u couldnt work out your schedule or u just lacked one class to finish u could drive to a town a few miles away to a different campus and take the class there..
Blame yourself hon. You should have checked your school first.
Oh really those schools have long been scrutinized by the state. Students we’re looking shortcuts too. They are not innocent
Were these schools acredited? If they were who gave them that distinction? Not only that, where were the clinical hours done? It's not just attending class. You need clinical hours to sit for the NCLEX and minimum standards to be granted an associates degree. If those standards were not met, whether you sat in class or the school was accredited, etc. that degree was not earned. As a consumer of higher education, they should have done their homework, compared curricula to other schools offering the same degree, and research graduate rates as well as NCLEX passing rates.
somehow they should re-evaluate this prerequsit classes why I need history class for nursing teach me the skill not the theore.
Well-rounded human, since this profession allows you to take care of people from all walks of life
It's Florida...3rd wrld state 🙄..
Nathan isn’t that the truth
When you try to get a degree from the back of a barbershop in strip mall of course degree is going to be fake.
Did she pass the nursing test that’s what I want to know why would you get a lawyer knowing that your diploma is fake😂
She went to an accredited school with an accredited program that not only allowed her to sent for licensure but also prepared her for licensure. She was a licensed nurse working as a nurse. Now the school has been stripped of accreditation.
How is that her fault? How could she have known? I went to school that was on the list that the state approved. She learned what she needed to learn to pass a national exam and people are still saying she was an idiot.
People can be the worst.
"IT'S unfortunate for those that did it the right way".. Sir you can't penalized those that did it the right way..But he did say they would look into it case by case
this is dangerous to the public, throw them in prison!!!
Most of these schools were approval that is way they got to sit for the boards. Many of the students were LVNs so they have experience.
How you going even to work you don’t understand what an electrolyte or anything like that , sad! Then a patient comes in throwing up blood what a you going to report to docs …… nuh nursing shortcut is wrong
The question should be, Did you have the knowledge to take care of other humans? Have you hurt anyone? They Keep asking about the students instead of the humans they take care of😥😨
Exactly. God forbid anyone eas harmed! This is such a knock to those of us who poured our blood, sweat and tears into OUR profession
News person.
Ask ......How did they pass the NCLEX?
This is so wrong
In this woman's case she went through the program but it was not an official program. I hope that the department of education will help prep former students for a more traditional program.
They need to trace where they have worked to see if there has been any life threatening and avoidable medical issues while under their "care". These people are not innocent they were willing to risk people's lives. Who knows where they were hired to work by using fraudulent documents. That's someone's mother, father, sister, brother, best friend ect that they gave pretend care to.
All of them knew what they were getting themselves into. They ALL KNEW!! Come to NYC hospitals they’re here too…..many of them are from those same schools.
When she was caught committing fraud... they knew what they were doing
How could she not know that she needed to attend a 4 year university to get her RN? Sounds like she wanted a short cut. Sorry.
You can't expect to become a nurse without proper training, so you don't, idk, accidentally injure or kill people.
Nah, there is a 2 year program for nursing. Registered nurse with associates degree
There are plenty of one year programs. Look up Jersey College that’s for 15 months if your already an LPN
@@v.cookiefuentes3073 I looked them up. No mentions of what accreditation they have PLUS most of their "schools" are located in... wait for it... FLORIDA.
@@ambivertical you would need 2 Associate degrees = 4 years for RN. LPN is for 2 years
@@Sleepy__Joe__ No, there is a 2 yearAssociates degree for RN. LPN degrees are average 1.5 years and some even 1 year. This is how it is in U.S
You can thank the nursing shortage and the covid pandemic for this
Nurses shortage in Florida!!!
I was wondering why I would meet all the black immigrant nurses who got there degree in florida. Im like why all these black immigrants getting there degrees in Florida? lol
From my research, the owners of these schools are immigrants or first generation. There is definitely an underlying story. Who were the majority of these students enrolled in those Florida, Texas and New Jersey schools.?
I'm sure they all failed the nclex
She knew
Her mom's a nurse, supposedly, so she had to know better.
@@terryl.cooper right
Exactly
Of course she did. Her mama is a nurse, so she helped her study for nclex. She should have advised her better
All nurses should be required to obtain At minimum a BSN from a accredited university before obtaining any type of nursing licensure.
Good luck with that. Already a shortage and you're proposing more time in school? 2 years is all you need, anything more is just more specialized training
@@tylanebrown730 , Yes, that's what I'm suggesting...the quality of nursing will increase, and nurses will be in a better position to demand the salaries they rightfully deserve. Some nurses today lack professionalism and clinical knowledge despite having a so called license.
@dellevan1 I don't disagree with you but that same argument was mad 30 years ago when they tried to phase out LPNs. Fast forward to 2023 and LPNs are still not phased out abd actually being used in hospitals where I live. They can demand BSNs when there's no longer a shortage, until then, they'll just be pushing more people away from pursuing the career. I work in the hospital, so I'm very up close to the situation.
@dellevan1 um, teacher here. It doesn't work that way. Many of us have graduate degrees for which we worked hard. When we try to demand salaries we deserve, the public calls us lazy and berates us.
How did they pass the qualifying and licensing exams ? Ans. Easy. Somebody else was paid to sit down and take the exam for them.
She say she attended class for one year to be RN? No ma'am go back to school.
Those who are asking how did they pass NXCLEX, it's not hard to pass this exam, you have multiple choices. My 8 year old does these kind of questions by picking ABCD and always comes with 75_85%. I can say this exams sometimes it's by lucky. When I did mine, we were surprised that the most smart girl in class didn't pass the first time.
For those of us who went to class, failed, went back and did again, did clinicals 3 days a week and labs, this hurts.
The only opportunity they should be given is to go back to school and do it the right way. They participated in fraud, they knew it was wrong, but they did it anyway. And now they have money to spray on lawyers..they MUST not be given a pass
Exactly! It took some of us @least 2years to obtain an ADN, not to mention the time spent in taking prerequisites for the program.
She didn’t say RN. He said nurse.
The NCLEX isn't easy. I'm not sure where you got that from. I knew students who took it a few times. It's not just multiple choice, and it's timed. It has selected all the apply, pictures, and listening to different parts of the lungs and heart sounds...etc. I completed my LPN to RN in one year.
You could tell by the way the degree was written it was fake. Very sad. You simply can not shortcut your way to being a nurse...😢
BYEDEN said he was top of his class….
Hey just like Trump University!
DeSantis state huh?...lol..
His state is doing better than ours
And he is going to run for president
@@maribelmaldonado252 if he wins I imagine we can all get fake nursing diplomas...
@@nicolemonrue your state is handing out fake nursing licenses too?...hope you don't get sick...
He's still the truth. Blue states are far gone.
That time u are spending hiring a lawyer, you shld think twice and have a plan B in place. I would enroll in a university and get my 4 yr degree while i wait on the judgment. Most universities do 3 yrs for BSN, as long as you have your pre-reqs
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