'Oumuamua Finally Explained Using a Brilliant Analysis
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Hello and welcome! My name is Anton and in this video, we will talk about an incredible study that may have once and for all solved the mystery of 'Oumuamua - the interstellar visitor detected in 2017.
Small correction: the red stuff on Pluto is also made out of tholins which are organic compounds that often provide that color.
Papers: agupubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.c...
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A really good blog post about this: thinkingscifi.wordpress.com/2...
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Small correction: the red stuff on Pluto is also made out of tholins which are organic compounds that often provide that color. A lot of the surface is nitrogen ice too, but it's not necessarily the main reason behind the "redness" of Pluto and similar objects.
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Awesome Video
I was gonna say that but you beat me to it Anton
@@raym6791 ok
Anton will you adopt me?
As a former employee of Caltech, I can attest that academic institutions are all in on this opportunistic idea predation. Their PR departments maintain constant contact with news outlets to make public any and all findings, preliminary or otherwise, in near real time. They’re competing for precedence, publicity, funding and Nobel laureates.
You said it in a much nicer way.
exactly wild theory and money squandered to research it.
But the media is also culpable, looking for anything to sensationalize, even if it means drawing wrong (though popular wishful thinking) conclusions just to attract views and make a buck...
Having been in, and out, of academia I'd say that for every self-promoting egotist there are dozens of dedicated scientists driven by the desire to understand what's around us. Taken out of context, many of the questions being asked can sound foolish, but that can be said of most things out of context. I dare say that you misunderstood the point being made in the video. @@paulbattenbough1002
I saw this in the 90s as a graduate student. Much of the spin you saw in the media for a particular scientific story was created in the University and then given to the News Network. We all should be more skeptical about popular science articles. Although, it's hard to see where the motive for spinning what appears to be a pure science topic, people don't realize the amount of money that is on the line.
Popular Science articles kinda serve the same purpose as those advertisements for prescription drugs. Why would they show these to the general public? It's to influence the people that control the money.
Dear Anton, please can we have THAT on a t-shirt.
"keep your mind open, but not so open that your brain falls out". Priceless !
This is not an original quote though
It’s actually a GK Chesterton quote from a century ago
Haha
Thanks Anton, great quip at the end; ‘Keep your mind open but not so your brain falls out’. Love it ❤
We have a quote like this in Spanish. Very good!
“…..not so open that your brain falls out.” - I hate that when that happens!
i find it weird that no video discussing Omuamua ever shows the actual images taken from the object.
I know, 1-2 blinking pixels are not all that amazing, but it would show people how drastically fantasized the artist impressions are. And to make it 100% clear that we didn't see it as clearly.
There’s no image of it, just hypotheses
@@TalkinKush That is not true.
@@grant1390well, the image is just a dot. Who know what the surface actually looks like
@@bb5979 Of course it is just a dot. Though it was also observed spectroscopically.
Is it just me? The object ejected invisible gases heated by the Sun which would cause it to move away from the Sun, but his image of its path at 3:30 shows it moving CLOSER to the sun than expected?
" You don't want to become so open minded that the wind whistles between your ears " - Absolute Legend
Terence?
I’ll listen to the wind over my own judgment honestly lol
@Sean Matheney that's the one I know;-)
@@jasonpassofaro3305 this guy's a legend ^
Too late I already got tinnitus
As a scientist, I really appreciate the early section about scientific rigour. But I believe this social media process is the next phase of scientific communication with the public. In an ideal world, scientists making outlandish claims get the "story" into the public consciousness and then more grounded science communicators can join the conversation and explain the true story. Keep up the brilliant work Anton!!!
Anton my friend, it's been fun watching you develop over the years, Your content is always first rate, well-conceived and presented. And you are experiencing the full Norm Abrams effect. I'm really impressed with how natural and idiomatic your English is getting. It's time to become a Patron.
So basically we have rejected hypothesis it was "uncontrollable Battlestar Galactica shaped object" in favor that it was "somewhat rusty Millenium Falcon shaped object"
@@Pyxis10 No it wasn't "aleins"
*_IT WAS ALIENS!!!_* 👽
That's real science for you, c'mon man!
yeah space trash from another society out there.
Exactly my point as well. 😂😂😂
It's obviously a piece of a world blown up in an intergalactic war far, far away.
Mark Twain had a great saying about being misled. "It's easier to fool someone than to convince someone that they've been fooled".
Yesss
No I haven't!
LMAOooooo, Dunning Krugger effect is strong in the comment section
Which is why they teach the Theory of Evolution in schools as though it was fact.
Plato's Cave Allegory
When I heard about the pancake shape, I immediately figured that it simply HAD to be an interstellar sunfish. I begrudgingly acknowledge that the alternative you discuss here has the inside track. But the interstellar sunfish hypothesis has NOT been definitively refuted!
The gullibility now days is off the chart!
No one truly believed it was a spaceship, with the exception of one guy...
How interesting, please share the data 😁
"Keep your mind open, but not so open that the brain falls out" quote of the decade right there.
I love that saying but hear it from rather close minded individuals sometimes haha.
Too late for that, I need to find my brain again.
Twas a good'un wannit!
@@crono3339 reminded me of Jack Sparrow in the 3rd one when he'd dropped his brain!!
I believe that was a quote from one of Carl Sagan's books.
I've watched many of your videos. You do a great job of explaining a diversity of scientific matters without dumbing it down. Great use of visuals, too. My father who was a junior high teacher would have loved your productions. If you want to see another teacher producing good videos on very different subject matter, try History Hustle; he also has an unusal accent (to American ears) , odd personal style and loads of enthusiasm. Thanks again.
Why so unusual when in USA and Canada we have a plethora of immigrants who speak fluent English with accents? It's not so unusual to me since I hear all accents from people from abroad and our regional accents of English spoken all over the continent every day. What's your accent like?
Oh, you found one of my missing smashed red potatoes! Wondering where that went...
Boil red potato, (or any small waxy type potato) skin on till its just cooked through,
Cool the potatoes enough to handle them , and smash the potato on a cutting board with the flat of a large knife or bench scraper to about 1/4" thick, forming it into a ragged flat disc, the potato needs to be still firm enough to be squashed without falling apart.
put potato disks into a fry pan with a bit of hot butter and fry flipping once till both sides are crispy, season to taste with salt and pepper or a BBQ rub mix as it cooks.
Serve a few as a side on each plate with grilled meat, and a salad or hot vegetable - you'll see why i was so upset my smashed potato went missing.
@@stinkyfungus I'm not sure if that's science but it sure sounds tasty!
@@BavonWWCooking is chemistry.
I feel like someone took extra care to make the pancake version of Omohamoa look like the Millennium Falcon
So I wasn't crazy lol
Brilliant. Here's the new artist impression [puts up image of a something that looks even more like a spaceship - millennium falcon]. I jumped to conclusions
I'll have to delete my comment now...
And the Baltic Sea anomaly...
Oumuamua*
You can't fool me, Anton. That's the Millenium Falcon. :-D
lmao that's what I thought right away
The Hutts got pissed Han's ship is still around so they froze it in Carbonite...
Just what I was thinking!
@@TheMoulie Great minds and all.
@@pkkiller_apathy4568 They do that, those pizza people.
....'keep your mind open, but not so open so your brains fall out"....I love it! Brilliant, informative video
Thanks for emphasizing how good science is done.
Thousands of years from now when Voyager enters an alien solar system, the aliens will look up and say, "Nah, it's just ice, mate"
No one uses mate like that anymore, so no, they won't say, mate, sorry.
Or Voyager will land on a planet inhabited by a medieval society. They'll melt down the gold record for its precious metal value and chuck out the rest of the probe as trash.
@@Mscape7 who hurt you, mate?
@@Mscape7
Dafuq kind of weird comment is this? What do _you_ know, lol?
Sup, mate..
3:00: “Something similar to what you see right here”
Anton’s Barber: Yes sir! ❤️
Chocolate rainnnn
Woah! That's so cool that watch his videos
Well this is the last place I'd expect to see Tay Zonday
Tay you absolute legend you
Yo Tay whats up playa?
Thank you Anton for always making excellent content. ❤
Very enjoyable information Anton! when it comes to being level-headed you have one of the flattest heads out there, by definition you have a very sound mine and probably one of the most level heads out there! you're an asset to the science community!
My only gripe is Anton's analysis always falls on the scientific establishment's cool reasoning side. l like a bit more speculation and imagination in my science and not so much kowtowing to the general outlook of the NASA indoctrinated 'community' . We know they lie just as in politics. I'd much rather watch science that challenges the orthodoxy
Now we are sure of it: Anton is working for the aliens, finding all possible arguments to hide their presence in our solar system
So THAT explains his smile at the end of his recent videos. It all falls into place now.
Yeah I never bought that "this is a Canadian accent" business.
My first suspicion is that he called me wonderful
He may be an alien, but he’s so darn lovable!
Trying to tell us these things aren't because of aliens is just the sort of thing an alien would do.
I thought that red image was a joke, it looks like a fossilized Millenium Falcon.
I was hoping I wasn't the only one
It does! Completely!
Shit. Beat me to it lmao.
It reminded me of something but I couldn't put my finger on it.
Same here! Either Han got lost trying to beat his record for the Kessel run. Or someone smashed a huge ball of red play-do.
Perfect introduction, perfect pedagogy, perfect explanations. Great job.
perfect blablabla
Peerless kneeling
@@richinoable What does Peerless Kneeling mean?
I've been a subscriber for years but this is my first comment. I was really bought into Omuamua, but your rational explanation was still so interesting and I learned a lot! In some ways this makes me feel better that we aren't yet a true space-faring civilization yet, so we didn't miss our one chance to intercept a Rama-like space probe. Great video, thank you!
Aliens watching this video: "Our camouflage was a success!"
Wow
Lol!!! That's Hella Funny🤣🤣🤣
We are the supreme beings in all of the galaxies that exist. Other life forms are behind us. We will be the first to invade another planet.
@@bobbywalsh7767 nope, there are many higher civilization out there in our galaxy some of them already came on earth before.
Giant raw stake.
It was a reflection of Venus on a weather balloon filled with swamp gas!
Now, that's a mouthful, worthy of Project Blue Book!
Close, but we still have to figure out where does the basking owl or barn shark fit into all this.
@@gooberclown it's MIB.
I couldn't see anything for all the vitreous floaters in the way...
Just a mass hallucination.
Move along folks.
continue your work
you give us a calm and solid look at scientific enterprise
Thanks Anton. How big is this object, I wonder. 🤔
If it happens to return, and hits Earth I and fellow believers will be standing at the predicted impact site with a large banner reading, "WELCOME, we love you!" Famous last words. Lol
Alien craft is not any conclusion that any scientist came to regarding this object. At most they were saying we should not rule out that it could be an alien craft.
Wikipedia (which provides references in case you'd like to follow-up) says, "On 26 October 2018, Avi Loeb [an Israeli-American theoretical physicist who works on astrophysics and cosmology and is the Frank B. Baird Jr. Professor of Science at Harvard University] and his postdoc, Shmuel Bialy, submitted a paper exploring the possibility of Oumuamua being an artificial thin solar sail accelerated by solar radiation pressure, in an effort to help explain the object's comet-like non-gravitational acceleration..."
I guess you used the word "conclusion", so yes - it was not a conclusion. It was "exploring the possibility", which is a step-up from "not rule out".
Simply mentioning a possibility (regardless of how unlikely) will cause the media to announce it as a fact. They do it all the time.
"PROBABLY" doesn't fit in that sentence. We finally know that we don't know what Oumuamua was.
Excellent explanation, Anton! Thanks very much for all your great work :-)
Maps of the bottom of the sea show 5km wide pixels.
Ego scientist: "Hey, I found a lighter one, must be the Titanic"
Surely, The aliens designed it so we’d think it wasn’t alien :)
Thats why we built the pyramids.
@@bsodcat no one knows how they built them . There are only theories no definitive proof of how they were actually built so accurately using primitive tools.
@@fordism.01 likewise... this study is a theory... backed up with solid science and logic... but a theory nonetheless. And it will remain so forever without additional observations.
And the Nazca lines.
@@fordism.01 Are you serious?
Stop listening to Ancient Aliens, that shit is brain rot.
I can't believe this happened in 2017, that's insane. Where did the time go?!
No where. Time is a word humans created to dumb down one of the key fundamental parts of the here & now, to provide others with the human condition to find relevance.
@@floydthedroid5935 ok buddy, he was just saying how time as flown since 2017, it seems like maybe a year or so ago
@@conorhennell2623 ok buddy
@@conorhennell2623 repspect the droid simpleton
Oumuamua is a time stealing probe, from a distant star system, and took it all. 😅😅😅
If you want to use the bar of soap analogy, you have to recognize the peculiarities that apply: the eroding forces (in the case of soap, friction; in the case of this object hypothesis, cosmic rays) must act predominantly parallel to the plane of motion for that soap to become a smooth flat disk. Or, but another way, if you were to rub the soap around randomly in your hands, you might end up with something that is indeed more like the cigar shape (or any of an assortment of other shapes). I suspect that if the hypothesis about the cosmic ray erosion is accepted, then it has some association with the way planets orbit around are star in a disk-like configuration.
Dropping said soap was also a missed opportunity to point out the darker possibility of what first contact could entail.
John Michael Godier is that you? I hear his voice when i read this@seanparker4461
I appreciate you addressing the subject of ego, because it's something we rarely consider without ego getting in the way.
Me: Leave me alone Anton, I just want to believe!
Anton: Hello wonderful person. No.
No worries.
This piece of space junk doesn't discount the reality of ET.
Far from it.
It could still be a ship purposefully surrounded by nitrogen ice to protect it during the journey. Good camouflage as well. They switch on tumble mode and silent mode in the event they are spotted by intelligent beings.
Goodbye
This NEEDS to be top comment
The Big Picture - have you *NEVER* seen the state of mankind's society the world over? It was just thoroughly explained in this video why some of the most intelligent among us are complete morons. Why would aliens, who switch to tumble and silent mode when spotted by intelligent beings, switch to that when spotted by people on earth? That makes absolutely *no sense* whatsoever in any way, shape, form, fashion, fantasy, or imagination. 🤦
How do you not have a million subscribers? This is such an awesome channel. No click bate, no crazy talk, no flat earth stuff. Just good old fun science. Thank you! 🙏🏾
He's a flat-Oumuamua-er.
I'm getting there! thanks though
even your question is fake as you do not really want to know!
He will, people will find him eventually
becuzz''' all da Haterz r democrats'''''' ;|) LoL''''''''''''''''
This is a great video Anton!
I about spit out my coffee this morning while watching this, it’s so funny. Great work, Anton. G
"its cigar shaped, its a ship!"
Wait its a pancake.
"Its the millennium pancake! That's a ship!"
And the round ones are death stars, right? :-D
Do channeling to answer that !
No .......it is a Blamange cloud.
Lol
I swear i've seen you somewhere Firestorm.
The alien theory is alive and well. The piece of material was part of the remnants of a system destroy by the Death Star. Damn you Vader
Good point
I find your lack of faith disturbing.
@Ratso Fatso Maybe someone pushed it from afar?
@Ratso Fatso Unless our calculations were incorrect!
Tarkin
As a poet in Japan, I took inspiration from Oumuamua and named the improv poetry/music/voice/ sound group after it.
I do poetry, my son does physics. We both love astrophysics.
I prefer Captain Disillusion’s motto: Love with your heart, but use your brain for everything else.
Digest with your gut, but use your brain to think.
Morals don’t matter if u kill someone to prevent deaths in ur ship, maybe u will be out to death but 2 deaths instead of many more
I mean parasite
Captain Disillusion is probably paying a lot of alimony now.
The healthiest and most successful relationships I know of started out with no passion involved. Turns out your brain is more reliable for love than your heart too.
Anton: “beautiful Pluto”
Pluto: 🥰
Great video as always I appreciate the education haha. Nice cut!
I'm so fascinated by this whole thing
Most people probably haven't seen the movie Aniara, but omuaua reminds me of it, an old spaceship with a dead society just floating through space.
That movie was sooooo sad! But good🧐
Always Rendevous with Rama was the first, the progenitor
I was thinking RAMA myself.
@@marcusalexander7088 How any anyone not?
Arthur C Clark, the greatest. Grew up on his work.
"Finally know" and "Probably" shouldn't exist in the same sentence.
It was probably definitely not aliens for sure!
Agreed, its one or the other.
@@Aaron-oe8xw In most ways i agree with you guys but on the other hand, Finally know and possibly are not entirely exclusive. When A person is trying to learn something (look at code breaking) trying one thought over another is how to determine if that thought might be valid or is not valid. Basically it is part of the learning process.
but they can so the english language suks LOL
Anton seemed kinda pissed off in this video, he "probably" wanted to put an end to the alien theory as much as possible.
Methinks he doth protest too much.
Lol, love that line: "Keep your mind open, but not so open that your brain falls out."
Judging by the thumbnail, I'd say it's a sirloin steak shaped like the Millennial Falcon
2:59 um, Hello? That's obviously the Millennium Falcon. Apparently after too many jumps to hyperspace.
hahaha
"we finally know what it PROBABLY was, maybe" is weird way of saying we still dont know
It was clearly just a piece of interstellar ice with swamp gas evaporating off it. Nothing to see here. And anyone who says anything else has a mind so open their brain felll out.
Thanks Anton! Very illuminating perspective on the Solar system as well as Oumeamea!
Good introduction, and well said all throughout, some "scientists" behave like rock musicians instead of real scientists, totally correct.
Lol, I love how he chose his words carefully, " A pancake like shape." He could of easily said, " Disc." Which has aided to a plethora of conspiracy theories.
Wait!
The aliens are not only visiting us, they’re serving us breakfast.
At least he didn’t say it was saucer shaped!
... Unidentified Flying Pancake-shape; Unidentified Flying Saucer-shape: same thing; both are Unidentified Flying Objects.
That the scientists pretend to have any idea what this was, is a conspiracy theory
Flying pancakes
"Keep your mind open, but not so open that your brain falls out" lol brilliant, thanks Anton.
Let us keep our minds open, by all means, as long as that means keeping our sense of perspective and seeking an understanding of the forces which mould the world. But don’t keep your minds so open that your brains fall out! There are still things in this world which are true and things which are false; acts which are right and acts which are wrong, even if there are statesmen who hide their designs under the cloak of high-sounding phrases.
- Walter Kotschnig November 8, 1939
@@sleepycalico aliens or not aliens, our world, as of today, is hardly the work of those whose brains didn't fall out, by all standards.
I'd question the merits of whoever reigns over science since 1939, because they sure don't want to change their habits. blind skepticism has become so rampant, it's practically dogmatic. I dare anyone seek out any kind of non-prescribed explanation of reality, as if there is a central governing body deciding on what is truth, a priori.
it's both funny and tragic at the same time, how nobody seems to get that the picture is inverted, and that those words got misplaced.
I was going to say the same, but I thought I'd check the comments first!
I enjoy your response, but I don't entirely understand it. I googled Walter Kotschnig and saw that he was a Foreign Service officer who was present at the formation of the United Nations and who went on to represent the United States at conferences worldwide for more than a quarter century. So, as that is the lead info from his obituary, I'm going to guess he wasn't also a scientist. The scientist who said that (most recently) is Anton. But I think it's a perfectly sensible thing to say, no matter who is saying it, in whatever field, at any time in our history.
The state of our world today actually *might* be partly attributable to people whose brains didn't fall out. lol But I take your point. Thanks for your wonderful response, wonderful person.
@@milanstevic8424 Oh, on further thought, I think I know where this went weird. I was just quoting the original usage of the expression.
I was listening to this on the radio today, very cool
I like it I like it a lot! I appreciate your due diligence, you're good! 👍🏼
Anton: "It more likely disc-shaped"
[alien theory intensifies]
It's the Millennium Falcon! :-)
@@minarchist1776 🤣 That’s what it looked like to me too!
@@minarchist1776 the Millenium Falcon lies at the bottom of the Baltic Sea....
@@minarchist1776 "IT'S THE MILLENNIUM FALCON!! I CLAPPED WHEN I SAW IT!!!" XD
Flying saucer, confirmed!
AMEN, Anton. As a scientist, it has been my observation over the years that the "discipline" of science is actually 40% egos, 40% agendas, and 20% real science. For me it got downright depressing.
at most 20, at most. I left the "scientific community", which is a propagandistic term for the outside. Yet, leaving just made me to understand that the area science still provides intellectual peak experience. Ergo I mixed, stayed scientific without the need to meet the ego-trippers
@@monnoo8221 You would enjoy Avi Loeb's book. Highly recommend, based on your comment, if only for the parts unrelated to the controversial chunk of rock.
The worst thing is that these folks are the ones who get all the attention, drive all the grant dollars, and push science in the wrong direction.
This is the reason I don’t blindly believe the government and other dimwits that tell us to “trust the experts and scientist”. It’s an annoying situation, for being sceptical towards what is being portrayed as the “truth” or scientific consensus in some matters, portrays you as a science denier. When in reality it has nothing to do with denying science, but rather that the conclusions presented isn’t convincing enough and in a lot of cases comes of as biased, or in many cases, they’ve decided on the outcome first, then looked for ways to make it happen.
It is true that one builds a reputation in science, good or bad. One case in particular that comes to mind is a historical article that was in the American Journal of physics some decades ago. I was doing research for my honours thesis, and for a break and some light reading looked at an article showing a picture of Sir Isaac Newton’s original paper on gravitation. I noticed that the formula was copied down wrong. Along come some of my peers eager to leave. I pointed the error out, and was met by skepticism. I allowed myself to be dragged off to lunch, promising myself that I would check it out later. Being busy with my studies, I never got back to it. A few years later, on student did point it out and cemented his reputation in the community.
Apart from the lesson to “if you see something, say something,” it must be noted that those reviewing Newton’s paper didn’t take the time to follow through with the calculations. I point out that the equation was wrong, not the theory.
Having had a tendency to do derivations myself, rather than just accepting them (the schrodinger equation, for example), I failed to follow through when it was most important for me to do so.
Wow this video is crisp! I love it!
Alien talk aside, it is still very cool that one of the prevailing theories is that this is a chunk of a planet from another solar system. That is really cool.
We FINALLY KNOW what oumuamua PROBABLY was 😂. I like when people say they know something and use "probably" in the same sentence)
Sure. That´s science´s way of saying " we know as much about it as we probably ever will, because we can´t collect more data now, we can only re-analyse the data we have so far."
You can't expect anything more intelligent from Anton.
@@will2see don't say that. He is cool and smart guy, the new science video every day it is tons of work
@@user-gf3zq5pb8m He does make a lot of assumptions and present them as facts tho.. I unsubbed ages ago
Yeah he has become a clickbait guy, becomming a fake news soldier
"we finally know what it might probably have been with uncertainty"
😂
😂
“A guess”, IOW….
exactly
finally probably definitely maybe ... possibly .
I've read the two articles and they are full of controversial assumptions and simplifications. Just to mention some, they're dealing mainly with words on the fact that the tumbling speed (not yet fully decomposed) didn't change. Also, the averaging of irradiation is questionable. The jump in albedo from 0.1 to 0.64 (and I recall that 0.72 was also "available", from Triton) allows a large range of fit, reducing a lot the necessary size; still, the variable acceleration implied, besides 1/d^2, is not treated, nor the color correspondence to that high albedo. In the second paper, they describe a possible collisional formation starting with Pluto-like surfaces; still, if the estimates are correct, why no such N2 icebergs were ever observed in our own solar system, in the Kuiper belt, for instance? More, if they dominate the statistics, why Borisov was not N2? I'm not saying is a bad explanation, is just a possible one and I consider unfair to address the Loeb's interpretation as a personal wish for glory; he already had enough and his work is just another modeling, with a certain number of free parameters, maybe less than Jackson&Desch's one. Just because that one is ET and "is never ET" does not allow personal remarks to come out. To be understood: I'm not an ET hypothesis supporter, I'm a supporter of impartiality and, as long as assumptions and errors are declared, all works are valid and they do not compromise the science.
Fascinating. Seems logical Lt. Anton.
Scientists: It was alien technology.
People: YAY!
Scientists: Actually it was a chunk of ice.
People: AWWWW.....
Journalists: COULD ALIENS USE ICE TECHNOLOGY INSTEAD OF METAL AND SILICON CHIPS?
Or, the other way around, at least for those who think like Hawking on the matter.
I want one!
Clearly didn't watch the video or how Anton talked about it if that's what you got from this video.
"It may be ugly, but its the fastest rock in this sectar"
Not only that, it's the ship that made the Kessel run in under twelve parsecs!
"You may not like it, but this is what peak asteroid looks like"
@@3zzzTyle Wait until LSST is in operation in a few months. More formally known as the Vera C. Rubin observatory, from a mountain top in Chile, it will scan the skies continually and find all sorts of previously-unknown faint, slow-moving objects. Suddenly we'll see lots of interstellar visitors, maybe Planet 9 (if it exists), more stuff in the Kuiper Belt and Oort Cloud, etc. Minds will be blown.
I want one!
Imo it's a beautiful object. Far from ugly
Excellent explanation. Thanks.
I very much agree with the first part of the video, as we all are kinda disapointed in science today because of what Anton refered in the beggining...admiting your wrong is the FIRST STEP to regain confidence from public. The FAKE SCIENTISTS had me almost GIVING UP on science completly, as a lot of NONESENSE was getting coverage...
Thanks Anton!
This Just In:
Recently discovered fossilized Millennium Falcon seems to
confirm Star Wars did in fact happen a long long time ago.
In a galaxy far far away
@@jarvissystems4334 Yes.
@@jarvissystems4334 Baltic Sea Anomaly ;)
In a galaxy right here.....
Damn you beat me to it .
It always reminded me of the book Rendezvous with Rama, so my hope is still that it’s aliens.
Of course you hope it’s aliens, we all do, but what you probably meant is that you still think that it’s aliens.
I can tell you that it’s not, even if it was it would be so unlikely that it would be hilariously funny.
Use logical basis for your understanding else you will loose in life. It’s like chess
@@generalhypocrisy1876 life is a game we cannot win, mortality
It’s a funny game I must say, I like games but I’m also very good at them. So much to learn from so much simplicity, but it is indeed the devils game
@@generalhypocrisy1876 I'm not saying its aliens. But, you can't say for certain that its not aliens. Unless you have a really fast space ship no one knows about.
Nothing is certain in science, the word certainty is probably the most human word there is because it’s simply just a word to get a point across.
I’m certain on something is the same as saying that I believe in something in my world, I hope that makes sense since we could be living in different realities according to that
Thank you. Good presentation
The statement "we finally know what X probably was" is a wild statement.
"Keep your mind open, but not so open that your brain falls out" Got to admit i'm using that from now on.
That was originally a Richard Dawkins quote if I’m not mistaken.
Not ....
😂 ditto
So that’s what I should do
I think that one's been ruined for me, having first heard it in a church as a kid.
Back here because of PBS SpaceTime! So glad they gave this Wonderful Person a shout out for all his dedicated work!
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They recommend the book: Extraterrestrial to me and I got it on audible regardless of what the object is thought be the book has a lot of fascinating ideas that opened my mind to some really creative and excellent thought ideas to do like the thought of space acreology looking for extraterrestrial space junk
You never know.
This guy is litterally a guy who reads reports with little to no grasp on the information.
I love this channel 🙏🏼
Thankyou for this informative video. I kind of like the idea of a space cigar from another solar system.
Anton: "Dear Dr. Avi Loeb..."
Ah, the comment I was looking for.
Kind of an ugly letter.
Your Chanel is absolutely brilliant! I’ve learned so much from you. I hope you know there are many of us that appreciate what you do. Sharing knowledge , inspiring the imagination in such a way the average person can understand is a gift. Thank you! I can’t get enough of the science of what’s out there!
refreshingly honest. Thumbs up dude!!
Cool. Thanks for sharing.
Sticking with it's the Millennium Falcon out of fuel after a Kessel run.
Yea, I think so as well. It happened long long ago in a Galaxie far far away.
People would probably stop believing weird things if they made the real answer as interesting as Anton does.
Excellent point!
maybe but they will definitely not stop labeling weird things as such based on their dogmatic views
Ahhhh...patience in evaluating observations...what a noble concept!😎🤙
Nice explanation that covers most of the observations. So good chance of being (at least approximately) right.
I had the good luck to have some very good science teachers in grade school. I had a PHD Chemistry teacher that was good as well for 3rd year + university students but he couldn't relate to lower level students. If i were lucky enough to have Anton as a science teacher some 50 years ago it would have been a complete blast to have science explained and so easy to digest. A bit late but thank you for the knowledge you share each day.
"It was definitely a chunk of dwarf planet" It was NOT definitely a chunk of anything. It might have been a number of things.
Indeed. This is a very very unscientific thing to say. An ice chunck chipped off a Pluto like impact??? And Anton know for sure this is it? Come on. First of all: great that the community finale catches on that Pluto collided with charon causing sputnik planitium impact zone and the red dot on charon and its equatorial crumble zone. But to suggest Oumumua is pure ICE??? Come on aton use your brain. Pure ICE is Never observed, and would never survive the extreme structural stress around the sun, just look at interstellar comet borisov desintegrate on aless tressfull trajectory. Moreover , spitzer st would have notice nitrogin evaporating. In all: a crappy chunck of science Anton!
@WonderDrugEchinacea Yes. And the straw clutching has been intense. I have read the paper. We have never seen free frozen nitrogen in space. Free frozen nitrogen, if it could exist, would be very short lived. The trajectory of Oumoamua and it's speed tell us it's ancient. I cannot believe this hypothesis.
An what ever it was it very very weird and like nothing we have seen before or since. An there not enough data to confirm any solution to the problems.
@@RWin-fp5jn spitzer is our best source of data for this object and yet it detected nothing which match any comet or asteroid, which is extremely strange .
@WonderDrugEchinacea People are making assumption to try an fit a tiny slither of data An they desperately looking for a natural solution to that slither data, so far all of their solutions however doesn't make much sense.
nice clear . . . really cl ear and informative and i will be tuning in on a few more ...thank you friend , peAc3, davis
So, an old soap bar that's reflective, not an alien cigar invasion. I guess I didn't need to restock my bunker. I'm tuckered out bedtime
"We probably know what it was
We know what it probably was
We think we know what it was
We think we know what it probably was
We think we probably know what it was
We probably think we know what it probably was."
You might want to ask NASA if they're hiring.
tbh the only thing thats going to tell us the truth is Project Lyra
Maybe they could probably be sort of almost possibly be onto something like,
Totally right... Or nearly.!! 😀
@@darrenwoolley51 I think you're probably right
In fact, I know you're probably right
I think
You are an amazing science communicator, seriously. Thank you for keeping the course and not going down the Rabbit hole of conspiracy and clickbait crap. Science NEEDS more people like Anton.
yeah, channels that showcase fresh journal papers in a fairly dry way are the best, in particular this channel and suspiciousobservers.
@@BlackMasterRoshi hard pass on Suspicious0bservers, which is a pseudoscience wank fest run by one of the least likable humans on the planet.
Thanks, Anton. Wouldn't mind hearing about next year's comet. ☄
Wish you the best for 1 mil subscription
I watched Avi Loeb talk about the object on joe's podcast and from what I remember he made no claims as to whether it was alien-made or not, but that to rule out the possibility while the possibility remained for the sake of your own scholarly reputation was not only stupid, but irresponsible and unexciting and that he felt there was enough unanswered questions about the object to warrant the possibility.
That said he made a lot of other appearances after that and certainly got a lot of attention so maybe he did say more plainly it was alien-made. Anyways this explanation is as good as any even if the image does look like an interstellar bunghole. Another great video thanks wonderful fella
The thing is, many explanations were being thrown around apart from the alien craft. Loeb wasn’t saying it was aliens, but he was annoyed to put it mildly that many academics mocked the idea of it being synthetic in origin while openly promoting ideas of it being made of materials that have never been observed or created. Their ideas were/are just as implausible as the craft but discredited the idea without presenting a counter argument to it. His argument is very fair
Another point that Avi makes is that the hypothesis the object is alien space junk or whatever is objectively more plausible than other ideas that have somehow gained a lot of traction. E.g. think about string theory with many extra dimensions that we cannot see, or multiverses.
Avi is just trying to sell books by making himself look like a poor brilliant martyr. The guys a charlatan.
@@rrson648 “Guy’s a charlatan” by being Harvard’s Head of Astronomy? He’s making a critique of the current status of academia, not only this, but the privatization of scientific data funded by taxpayers, amongst other things, which many other important people have pointed out as well. He’s sharing his viewpoint like anyone is allowed. He a respected figure. What now, every scientist that sells books is a charlatan as well?
Go back to your couch and eat your rubbish, greaseball
I also read Avi Loeb’s book ( EXTRATERRESTRIAL) and the above two / three posts are pretty close to my personal interpretation of Loeb’s position. I don’t remember Loeb saying it must be aliens, only that it was possible that it could be.
I think the main thrust of Loeb’s book, and his interviews that I heard, is that for scientists to proclaim that it absolutely is not a fabricated item is incorrect.
Keeping an open mind about that possibility, until new data (if ever) becomes available, is reasonable. Selectively crucifying Loeb for mentioning this possibility, when other “crazy”, unprovable (currently) ideas seem to be acceptable scientific dogma (string theory, multiverse, etc...) seems to be unfair.
Loeb laid out a couple of solid reasons why it might be an artificial object. My “gut” tells me that the object was probably natural in nature. My critically thinking brain allows for the possibility of other possibilities.
This new analysis of the old (original) data is yet another possible explanation of what Oumuamua might have been. Kudos to these scientists who keep working the problem.
Kudos also to Loeb for pushing back against the ossified section of the scientific community that says “it ain’t never aliens ever, end of topic, and stop bring it up”.
G’night wonderful people and peace ✌️.