Yeah, you nailed it. 'Grinding to pull a slot machine arm is not fun' Shame had good potential as you said, but the red flags you point out are now obvious.
I honestly wish I didn't have to make a video like this. I love MMOs and just gaming in general. I never want a game to fail, but I also can't just ignore the amount of issues and red flags that keep popping up in this game either. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't make content just for clicks. If I personally play a game, enjoy it, and it seems legit I'll make content for it and recommend it. I those things aren't there I won't.
@@trandel_elentI'm upset with how fast the base deteriorates Like even when not being attacked Also I'm still trying to figure out how to keep the mob from swarming the base
Surprise, surprise. This is NetEase after all. All their games are riddled with pay to win mechanics, and unfortunately this game is not going to be any different. It is unfortunate because this game is really cool. :(
@@trandel_elent You have to report the bad as well as the good. That gives it an honest shake. I have enjoyed all of your videos about the game, and I do hope they refine and polish it.
@@SmallBEANville Same. The genre is absolutely begging for a decent game that is fun and engaging, especially after the trainwreck that was The Day Before 🤣. If the Dev's can resist the urge to go down the path of greed and laziness and aim instead for making a game for long-term growth, they'll have a banger on their hands in no time at all.
You got to remember this is in beta they're not going to release everything for a beta game plus when this game comes out everything's going to be erased anyway they're just giving you a taste of what this game is going to be like just give it a chance
On another Point another thing that I would love for this game to have is the option of people queuing for great ones because sometimes I'm in the world by myself and are looking for somebody to fight them I wish I would give you an option to queue with somebody else
They should just make it like valheim. Box price ($20 or $30 or something), and move all the blueprints to bosses, achievements and RNG in zones. There is enough of a game here that even solo or with friends you can play through a decent amount and ignore the wish machine anyway. Just get rid of it.
And that's the sad part of all of this. There is tons of potential in this game already that the Dev's did not have to resort to using BS like a slot machine at all. Once Human has some really solid bones they could have built the rest of the game around to make something really fun and engaging. But instead of doing that they actually took content out of the game and locked it behind a gambling mechanic.
@@Paelmoon how many buy to play game become successful??? is not all about if the game have the price i will worth it the answers is no there's a lot of games that free to play but still successful for example warframe cosmetics is the one gib the developers money in that game they just need to remove that gotcha thing and make it pure cosmetics pay . this game need more fix 1st main reason why players quit at cbt cuz its lag not optimize , memory leaks and lots of bugs and only have 1 region server
i think this game has a lot of potential but with a game like this it is very easy to fail. they need to make sure that there is enough content to keep people playing for 100+ hours and have seasonal content releases or you gotta add new content regularly. also they really need to rework and balance the resources. its so annoying to have to farm charcoal, acid, and glass for hours.
I agree with you on the statement that there are improvements needed to keep the PVE players attention and i hope that by the time once human gets its full release the end game content will be there
even weeks ago, I would run around and everything is empty. My server was on low population with 400 players queue (which makes no sense because after waiting for almost 1 hour everytime I assume 'omg the server is gonna be stack if there is atleast 400 waiting to join' but no lol. ) no one around any POI or even in big settlements ... I looked up multiple server and its the same. Even when it said Medium population, I would go to the teleportation tower to switch 'zone' and all of them were at Low... I just assumed they lie about the population or it doesnt work at all. It's so depressing to run around for hours and see maximum 5-10 players. The chat is pure trash and there is no one to do the season bosses. My server did not even complete the first season quest of killing the boss 200 or 300 times. This means, EVERY other season quest will be IMPOSSIBLE to fufill if you can't fufill the easiest. Not to mention that this type of game, the longer the server is up, the less people are going to be in it and NO NEW PLAYER will ever join because of the PVP aspect. They had to stop people from joining the beta even though the game is dead. It's a fun game only if people are willing to play it sadly.
Yeah, it was honestly super depressing streaming the game and playing it for hours yesterday and not running into anyone at all pretty much the whole time 😔. If it wasn't for the fact I had some awesome people in my stream and we were chatting it up I would have stopped after 15 mins or so lol. And you're right, games like this need players that want to play the game and interact with each other, and that's just not happening that much anymore.
The lack of other people honestly didn’t bother me. I liked not running into hoardes of other players - it felt more realistic to the world. ( you still occasionally encounter someone). This was as opposed to when I logged in the very first time and there were houses EVERYWHERE. I hate that. New World had this where there were camps everywhere. But now that I think about it, I get what you guys mean. Also, the way servers work, if you come in late or can’t get a new server, it’s a bit wonky for new players. You almost need to be able to spin up your own private servers to play with friends. My mind always just goes to valheim. Just make it operate that way. But if they have it free to play, thier thinking and how to make money is distorting the games system - in a bad way it seems. Hmmmm.
One of my major three complaints: 1. No Servers for the EU. I live in Germany and having a ping of over 100 is not fun in the long play. 2. It gets repepetive relative fast. After the second, hence even after the first Zone. The Gameplay loop is mostly the same. It is fun... but only for so much. Minecraft for example, hast loops that breathes new things into it. For example: In the beginning, you get yourself some wood with your Hands, then with stone, then with Iron. But after that, you can enchant your equipment like your axe. You can get "ambushed" by Illagers(?) out of nowhere, etc. 3. The Gacha problematic. It will be F2P of my knowledge... and I hate that. I would like to spent 35-40 Dollars for that Game, but not wanting to add one or two zeroes to it. Almost every single F2P game, ist P2W. There are exeptions, but they are rare. I can't think of an F2P game in the Asian region, that is not P2W. So yeah. Everything else. When they remove most of the bugs, smooth the animations, new graphics, performance, etc. It would be a good game, because it is Fun. But not, when they add more Gacha mechanics or letting this "Wish Machine" in the Game. haha Edit: if they are focus PvP too much... hell nah.
Your complaint about the servers doesn't make much sense at the moment. The game is in BETA and therefore only has a server in North America. Obviously when it officially launches there will be servers in all four corners of the world. I'm from South America and I have about 120ms of ping, but for PVE content I didn't have any problems, and in PVP I managed well.
What time of day are you playing, what time zone? It was also Christmas most people were doing family stuff yesterday until the evening. I think it's Beta so people aren't as dedicated to it, they should merge but I don't think they know how to with the buildings. They opened so many at launch because everyone came from Day Before. I'm on G world 2 and there's usually an event when I open the map, Im lower level so I am still exploring the map.
Yeah, I got to the end, grinded, built my base up, got decent weapons/gear but there was nothing to do in the last zone.... it was just farming for mats to keep my bass from rotting and getting bullets.... game def has potential and is on the right track, just needs to be polished and more incentives for PvE scenerios... maybe even shrink the world a bit
the gacha system will kill the game slowly. i'd rather grind it out in the open world to farm for guaranteed blueprints than farming echo stones and possibly die from other players and just lose your gacha at the end of the day
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I had just got to the point of where I need better gear and here I am grinding to get starchrom. Thanks for clearing up what I am doing lmao. Rather wait at this point. Feels like no end result worth grinding.
You're welcome and thank you for for the comment! Yeah, sadly the Starchrom grind is real atm 😅. Unless you have a dedicated Hive to grind those out together it's a drag. Hopefully they will put blueprints back into the game itself instead of locking them behind a slot machine and give players more PVE content to progress with before the game is release.
PvE players need a reason to team up, so put the blueprints from the wish machine into the harder tiers of the bosses, and have higher tiers. cant just be bullet sponges though, include new mechanics etc, so the PvE players have to team up to get the blueprints. Keep the shop for cosmetics, fashion, skins for vehicles/weapons. Look at Destiny / Halo. can still spend money, but its not Pay2Win. I hated the Wish Machine, I do play a lot solo, but would like to team up more. I have made a few friends teaming up for bosses, but its easier to just join a current chat request than ask friends because they may be doing different things. People create their own single person hives just to increase their base building limits eg power production. Hives need to work better as a community tool.
I played it for almost 6 hours, & I didn't find any other player on the SERVER. The next day I played it on another SERVER where a friend was, so I had to make another character, but shortly after that I got banned on that server for no reason; supposedly, these random bans are due to a bug caused by payments that other players make on premium accounts.
The public event thing reminded me of destiny 2 on release, there was nothing to do end game on release but go around to public events, which the main loot was material that didnt have a use yet, lol.
If this is really true, it's really sad, the game has so much potential. Maybe, someone can leak the server files and make a private server that people actually play if they really do intent to make this game p2w.
They dont intend to make it p2w. and the game is in a closed beta. CLOSED BETA. meaning the game isnt even CLOSE to release- and people speak like its a released MMO; players will and will not exist in closed betas. the private server your asking about is the ONE we have.
@@sieykes That's the problem in all honesty, so far most gaming companies always say ''We do not intend to make it p2w'' and yet in the end they will in some sort of way. I really hope you are right however.
i had so much fun until level 45 and found the world to be smaller than i thought with the north zone not having that much to it. I'll play on release for a few weeks and prob drop it.
there are a lot of player in the newer servers but I get your point, I also reach the "endgame" but it seems lacking, and yeah the slot machine is a bummer, MAYBE if the points where farmable but you have a limited amount and its all quest that not every player is interested in, there are A LOT of weapons me and my friends want to try but they are lock behind that machine and is awful, a few times now a friend has commented "I wander if there is a better [insert weapon type here]" just to check an see they are obtained in the slot machine and not in a city or quest, I still have hope in the game but I admit its just wishful thinking
@@hoopla5502 they are obtainable not farmable, there is a limit on how much you can get per "season" and also the slot machine has "draws" that can run out. if they replaced that with energy (that is farmable) it wouldn't be THAT bad but we'll see
@David.-.Garcia I mean can you not kill elites to get cortex's and then refine them into starchrom , I get it's not a good system but that is farmable .The draws are limited which is bad, but saying you cannot farm starchrom is false
@David.-.Garcia nah acid is the refinery spots you can find at points of interest, those put you in pvp when you do it. The refinery just starts a wave based attack at your base. Save em up it's nowhere near ideal but you can get starchrom from them
I started playing a week ago for the first time. There were players… yesterday… I saw 1 person. We friended each other. There aren’t enough players! I have a feeling this game won’t be around in 6 months. Sad. I love building and designing homes. I like the combat and a lot of the game mechanics. Just a shame…
Wait so before this beta you got BPs from killing bosses? That actually pisses me off so much. Gocha systems are seriously so toxic as soon as I seen the wish machine i was already rubbed the wrong way. And i can already see the P2W its going to turn into. And on release if it does end up P2W i will not give it my time. In terms of gameplay loop and open world stuff, this world is absolutely massive i mean we have access to 1/16 of it. How many other bosses will there be? Will the level cap stay at 50? Will server size be big enough to make it feel alive? I have so many questions on what they plan on doing.
Yep. They used to be attainable just by playing the game. That is until the Dev's decided to take content out of the game and lock it behind a slot machine. And that's the sad part about all this. The game does have some really good bones to build on. If the Dev's decide to actually try to made a solid, fun, and engaging game they could have a banger for sure. But that's if they decide to avoid the greed and lazy game design of resorting to P2W tactics.
Yeah it’s really weird honestly, even in the update video you did for me, I hadn’t known that blueprints were drops originally… that at least would make sense, this new “season” metric is boring, I finished the last boss and I have nothing to do so I’m just building and farming to raise my Hive’s rank.. They really need to go back to a drops based metric as this gacha crap isn’t it. + how “reinforced” and basic buildings barely make a noticeable difference between level 15 enemies. I have loads of echos to purify… and nothing to do with them as it’s entirely pointless honestly… I’m mass grinding bronze pickaxes to sell just so I can reset my skill tree and remove all my points into the reinforced stuff.
starchrom is hard to gain after you finish the journey and there is a weely limit to the base defend purification. After these, the only way to get starchrom only come from echo defend while it forces PVP and so rare.
People leaving the game because we can't do bosses/labs with other people on different servers imo. There's no cross server play currently so people can't help each other out because there will be 2 people on one server that wants to do it, and another 2 people on 2 different servers but they can't join together. They also need to make the mystery chest give 1-2 blueprints after the initial so that people will still go into the strongholds etc
Eh, I think putting BPs in Mystery chest might be a tad too easy but I agree there needs to be reasons for people to get out into the open world. My suggestion would be to have Public Events reward random BPs so players actually want to do them. Maybe put some harder world bosses that can be found roaming some of the more open areas that players could cooperate together to take down.
I play on Stardust A World 2 and i actually come across some players here and there. Coming and leaving towns, lower levels looting around and occasionally people asking for people to LEA... Dunno a thing about any other servers tbh and yes, its not like when we have to wait a 10k queue just only to join... But i guess once people reach level 50 and try LEA and don't get much progress there they just left? About public events i always see a Dakini one up somewhere... A few hours ago even spawned on top of me lol
I play on Stardust A world 2 and after streaming for 4 hours yesterday we never saw anyone at all in the open world lol. Maybe one time we saw a player, but I think that was in a hubtown. And I think there might have been one time when someone was looking for a boss and was saying anything using ingame chat. And it's not just people hitting lvl 50 then leaving, even on the newer servers players are starting to resort to asking around in Discord because they can't find anyone ingame. As for Dakini that might as well not even exist since almost no one bothers with it. I just now checked our servers status on how its doing in the seasonal challange and it showed a whole 23 people have done Dakini and only 20 have cleared LEA. And since Stardust A was one of the first servers that does not look great at all.
@@ShyMun Yeah, I totally agree. Again, I played the shit out of this game and made tons of content. I don't hate the game or want it to fail at all. But you can't fix problems if you ignore them and don't say anything about them. And I'm afraid that if the game keeps going down it's current path it's going to fail. Sure it'll get tons of players in its first few weeks because it'll be the new shiny game in town. But what about the weeks and months after that?
Hi, me and my friend also play on stardust A world 2 and we both already hit 50 and we barely see anyone and the first time dakini arrived we only saw 5-6 players in that event
@@Keanu-LeeOmarCAlawi Yeah, at least you have a friend to play with lol. A lot of players aren't quite as lucky 😕. As for the Dakini event that's actually a good turnout 😂. I've never seen anyone there any of the times I have tried it. And if you check out the pictures I posted earlier all of this is starting to show up in the fact that Stardust A wasn't even able to complete some of the recent Seasonal tasks for the server. And I'm hearing the same thing from players in many of the other servers as well.
Recently a streamer had live hosting a dev. He said there will be BP's in the dungeon. Also there will be purely cosmetics in the dhop, as well as in the battle pass. As for the Starch, he said that they are open to anything and will listen what community wants. Also they will work on raid system and better way if grouping players and also want to make cross server aviable as well. And revamp the AI cause they are kinda retarded as they are right now ( his words xd) 1 season will last 6 weeks with a reset wiping everything. Then implementing new weapons, new enemies with different abilities, etc. Also cosmetics u buy would be shared across ur account not tied to ur chatacter, and there will be pets in the game. Now I don't want to end up looking like im coping I really wish for game to succeed and I'm being a bit more lenient since its betta and they seem pretty open about everything and pushig bugfixses everything other day. I still tend to keep low expectations honestly cause lots of games kinda shoot themselves in the knee already so im trying to stay neutral and just wait and see. Already had tons of fun in the game, but as it stands now the endgame content is nonexistent at best.
I saw that stream and I really do hope that is the case. I really do enjoy large parts of the game, or I wouldn't have made all the video I have or poured hundreds of hours into playing it 🤣😅. I think it has tons of promise, but as I have said before I have to be upfront with my community when I see something that is going sideways or could be a issue in the future. I really do hope they put blueprints back into the game because that was a huge mistake and provide more PVE content for sure. As for the P2W what matters is what they actually release, not what the promise. As much as I want to take them at their work the game is being published by NetEase and they have their reputation for a reason. Anyways, thanks for dropping by!
I started playing this game last Friday and have spent over 20 hours of game play. I have only seen 4 players in all that time. I'm very disappointed at the fact that they wipe everything after just 6 weeks and you have to start over again. I play ESO all the time and that's my go to game. I've played it for three years and I love it. This game is just one big disappointment. I may leave it after the season finishes.
@@ParanormalGirl5 Yeah, the closed beta's before the last one the game was so different compared to what it is now. It's really sad they made the changes they did at the last minute. Lol I love ESO too. That and Guild Wars 2 are the few games I keep going back to over the years. I've thought about making content for ESO from time to time but wasn't sure if anyone would be interested 😂.
I think they are still testing. And hold alot of content from the Beta. Also alot of PVE player already stop playing due to not trying to be spoilt by going too deep. Atleast for me, casual PVE player, I just hit lvl14 and already thinking want to stop and play when the game is release. But yah I do feel the blueprints at the machine is annoying. But I think they won't be going down that route. Cause seem like China already in progress to have strict rules on monetization and gacha element.
Also i dont think people are taking into account is this game is going to have seasons .. meaning it wont always be the same game play , also a rather largwe portion of the map isnt even accesable right now
The public events is just not rewarding at all, we get controller and small amount of materials, which leads to PVE players to just not do the public events. Every time I go to public events I end up doing the lower level tiers to just solo it. Because no one can solo those lvl50 public events and the rewards are not just simply not it. 1. It would be better to have like artifact box where we can get blueprints. 2. More rewarding awards, like Acids and materials that are simply hard to farm.
Totally agree. They need to give players a reason to interact with each other and get out into the Open World. Right now there really aren't any reasons to do that.
Personally, I enjoyed the game, but why I stopped playing is this: 1. No Europe Servers. 2. Did not want to play way too much into it, being a BETA I did not want to spend too much time into it, knowing that the progress is wiped. I also want to be excited for when the game releases, and I want to have a bit of mystery about the content that is there. 3. No friends to play PvE or to play together. Had just 1 who entered like 2-3 hours in a weekend. Had to rush him to complete the PvE content while I was farming gathering making side missions while he was away. But ye, I think is hard to get players to play together in your team, especially after the start of the game. I even offered to wait for people with the elevator on the level 10 mission, there were 2 players around there, no one joined. So not the most social experience. 4. Lack of zonal PvE Events 5. Gacha Blueprint Machine
Once human is like Cookie Clicker: upgrade to earn more money. In Once Human, it's about gear, weapons, the Energy Link and the in game currency in general. That being said, even though the game has some surprises here and there that are quite entertaining, all the layers of the game are the same. Once Human shares similar issues with the old game Firefall, developed by Red 5 Studios. Even though the game faced declining player numbers due to several factors, players were outraged due to the in-game betting system introduced. This system made me quit the game entirely. Additionally, Firefall was simply a victim of its own ambition, trying to be too many things at once and failing to find its own unique niche in the crowded online market. It seems like once human is taking the same path. What I'm curious about is how microtransactions will be implemented and if it will be linked to the in game currency and the slot machine. There are so many warning signs pointing in the same direction regarding potential 'pay-to-win' issues and how in-game currencies will be rewarded, achieved, and used. Time will tell, i guess...
i used to love playing firefall and i also like playing once human cause it's like it a bit but yea i think the foundation is there but they need to improve what they have a bit and as you say eliminate bs rng, a lot of other looter shooters do this aswell cause nobody likes their progression being locked too hard on rng ( i also play destiny so i should know this)
@@ipunchedu8884 They need to eliminate the identical layers. I'm currently at level 36 and about to confront boss number 4. So far, the path and overall experience leading up to each boss have been identical-literally 100% the same. It involves finding a specific x numbers of items in settlements, opening the 2 arch reactors, and then defeating the boss. This pattern also extends to gear and weapons. You search for particular items to upgrade gear and weapon tiers, and this pattern repeats with every boss you defeat. Exploring the world yields the same results: identical buildings, layout, enemies, berries, and animals. The only aspect that keeps me engaged at this stage is constructing houses and relocating them across different zones on the map, hoping that the three players on my server will purchase something from my vending machine. Let's hope there will be some new innovations to this game upon its release, because at it's core it's a really good game for sure.
You are right.. i play this game for almost a week solo. I got to the end game and i dont know what else to do... Farming the currency is really slow. I hope they let us farm bosses to get fragments or events.
Lol most likely. That's pretty much the one of the only reasons to be out in the Open World once you're done with the Mystery chest. And that grind is also one of the reasons why PVE players are being turned off by the game too 😞.
I got in on the 17th and the world was flooded with people playing and in chat 3 days later i dont see anyone cant even find a group to do the boss fights so i just got to the point where i was overleveled and just do them myself. Thats my biggest complaint it just seems empty of players
Yeah, MMOs need PVE players to survive and thrive. And there just is not enough content and too many red flags that are driving PVE players away. Without them you don't have people that want to chat and make friends, or find others to play the game with and you end up with what we're starting to see now, a big empty world.
Im on stardust Q tons of people on there. Most bases ive came across have active people. But they should probaly slow down on opening new servers. Ive also hear their are 4000 people limit on a server not sure if that is true. But ya hope this game gets better.
Yeah, they just dropped thousands upon thousands of codes since Christmas 😂. I don't doubt that there could be tons of people running around now. The real question is how many of those people will be sticking around after a few days, a week, two weeks. There were tons of people playing the game on the first day of the beta when I started too. There were massive queue timers and everything. But that didn't last very long. In less than a week if that the queue timers were pretty much gone and in probably less than two weeks people were starting to run into issues finding anyone out in the open world. Barely 3 weeks out and you had players on the Discord channel trying to find groups and servers failing seasonal tasks. I honestly don't know what the Dev's goals are at this point, but if they don't figure out how to retain players for more than a few weeks this game isn't going to see much long-term growth at all.
Oh wait, you say a slot machine that may drop goodies? You do know the origin country of this game right? They are slot machine addicts. Plus and I'm not sure of this but there are security issues with your personal data when you sign up to this game. It's all there on the Steam forums.
Slot machine mechanic wont change. Gotta remember 1 its netease. And 2 this game will also be for mobile. Land of the whales/cash cows. They wont not add somethiing for the mobile players to blow their money on.
Hopefully. There's some really solid foundations to build off of, so I hope the Dev's take the time between now and release to do just that. Hopefully they won't make the same mistake that New World did and wait till the last second to realize they're going down the wrong path and then try to correct the course.
Oh yeah, don't doubt that one bit especially since they just dropped thousands of activation keys over the past few days 😂. But as you mentioned, how many of these new players are going to actually stick around past the first two zones is what's going to matter.
Except for the fact it's not just today. These servers have been going into low pop status since about after the first week of the beta being started and it's only gotten worse from there. We've seen it from the server status page at login and we've been seeing more and more people trying to find groups in the OH Discord for well over a week now because they're not seeing anyone at all in the game.
It lacks endgame content, plain and simple, grinding quests for coint to roll the gacha is not an endgame interesting enough as far as I see , this game is awesome, but it has the same problems as V rising, the journey itself is impressive, but it reaches an end (and only PVP is not a viable endgame option, it needs PVE aswell since a lot of ppl dislike PVP)
Then you have to be constantly creating new content - the usual MMO problem. This game isn't an MMO. They call it that, but it isn't. It's like the division, or Valheim.
@@Paelmoon or do season content like destiny 2, and many live services, or just accept that it will be a game where ppl will come, play, finish it and go away, it can be an mmo, it can not be a mmo, you can even call it bananas for all we care, the problem is still the same.
atm it looks like they are gearing up for a pay to win game :( i will spend money buying the game but i WILL NOT play a pay to win game as much as i love this game.
It's definitely a possibility. NetEase is the company that Blizzard teamed up with for Diablo Immortal and we all know what a huge P2W scam that turned out to be.
its because the weapons sux the missions you asking me to do requires much powerful weapons the punishment you get from soloing base defence while you r melting some relics for the starchromes the gacha machine the known future of the game being from f2p to gacha money grab game so everyone cautiously playing this game I hope they change gacha mechanics and the freaking blueprints its just must be optinable from boss fights as before I'm sick of all the gacha games all over the world this must change why they don't listen they have life time to rework there game and multiplayer aspect of the game and hives/warbands the limited power generators and deviations so you only have to have only one running deviation nothing more and better that one that requires no power supplies that one that gives wings the butterfly daTs It
Thing is it’s already a f2p so you have to make your money through the wish machine the thing we are lacking is content in general if they add a skill leveling for crafting, fishing, combat things like that it’ll give more people a grind even a grand exchange where people can sell acid, wood, and stone they just need to add more reasons to play every f2p needs a way to make money though
No they don't need to resort to a gambling mechanic to make money at all. Path of Exile has been completely F2P since day one and they have just grown and the games gotten bigger year after year for a decade now. Gacha gambling mechanic are nothing more than greed and laziness in game design.
I try to give every game a fair shake. Bias works both way. But after hundreds of hours played I sadly have to agree that does look like where it's heading unless the Dev's make some pretty big changes.
The game overall declines once you reached mid to end game. Base building is fun, however you are limited by space, and amount of items you can have built in the base. Gear is horrendous. It feels like you would have a steady incline to buildcrafting, however thats a lie. The game gives you the illusion to progression, but once you hit the final region they unlock. Your progression is put to a halt completely. Leveling weapons is an absolute grindfest to do more damage, and most set bonuses and weapons became obsolete. A Tier 5 weapon you want to reach from calibration +7 to +8 is around 435 stardust. That is an insane amount. Many of you would say thats not alot, but when you put it into perspective of needing to upgrade everything in your arsenal, its an insane amount to farm. You only get a limited amount of controllers to farm dungeons and silos. Once you used up your controllers, you need to do dailies to get less than a handful of controllers. Your bounties are capped too, so you cannot farm it consistently. The endgame is about a never ending farm for Acid, and a never ending grind for Stardust. It is absurd, and dont think about putting upgrades into armor, this game have enemies that are literal aimbots with projectile based attacks. You WILL take alot of damage regardless how much health you have, bosses can oneshot you, so tanking is impossible and not suggested. With the release of LEA dungeon and the Dakini event, the AI are overly tuned and the devs are so out of touch with the community and what is considered reasonable grind and straight up annoying. Sure you can argue that content are meant to be played with friends. Except that means you need to grind and farm for double the amount of materials, and that takes up even more time to even begin doing endgame content. On top of that the game have the tendency to bug out horribly when played with a team. Me and my friend repeatedly have a dungeon where the bosses and enemies health are twice if not tripled in health for no reason and that is only when we play together. We know the health increased because we noticed the damage we are doing are so different in difference instances of the run. Its too buggy to play with friends and its too hard and overtuned to play solo. There needs to be a balance, and also the very VERY lack of reward without controllers. I ran a hard mode silo and with a controller the boss drops 99 stardust, without controller is only 22. That is absurd.
Yeah, you nailed it. 'Grinding to pull a slot machine arm is not fun' Shame had good potential as you said, but the red flags you point out are now obvious.
I honestly wish I didn't have to make a video like this. I love MMOs and just gaming in general. I never want a game to fail, but I also can't just ignore the amount of issues and red flags that keep popping up in this game either. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I don't make content just for clicks. If I personally play a game, enjoy it, and it seems legit I'll make content for it and recommend it. I those things aren't there I won't.
@@trandel_elentI'm upset with how fast the base deteriorates
Like even when not being attacked
Also I'm still trying to figure out how to keep the mob from swarming the base
Surprise, surprise. This is NetEase after all. All their games are riddled with pay to win mechanics, and unfortunately this game is not going to be any different. It is unfortunate because this game is really cool. :(
@@trandel_elent You have to report the bad as well as the good. That gives it an honest shake. I have enjoyed all of your videos about the game, and I do hope they refine and polish it.
@@SmallBEANville Same. The genre is absolutely begging for a decent game that is fun and engaging, especially after the trainwreck that was The Day Before 🤣. If the Dev's can resist the urge to go down the path of greed and laziness and aim instead for making a game for long-term growth, they'll have a banger on their hands in no time at all.
You got to remember this is in beta they're not going to release everything for a beta game plus when this game comes out everything's going to be erased anyway they're just giving you a taste of what this game is going to be like just give it a chance
On another Point another thing that I would love for this game to have is the option of people queuing for great ones because sometimes I'm in the world by myself and are looking for somebody to fight them I wish I would give you an option to queue with somebody else
Agree
@@danielsegura3451 this is an awsome idea.. damn... genius
I'm in the live version and I've seen only 4 players ever.
I wouldnt trip off the gacha machine if the 500 1 time rolls werent all bottom tier duplicates
That shits horrendous
They should just make it like valheim. Box price ($20 or $30 or something), and move all the blueprints to bosses, achievements and RNG in zones. There is enough of a game here that even solo or with friends you can play through a decent amount and ignore the wish machine anyway. Just get rid of it.
And that's the sad part of all of this. There is tons of potential in this game already that the Dev's did not have to resort to using BS like a slot machine at all. Once Human has some really solid bones they could have built the rest of the game around to make something really fun and engaging. But instead of doing that they actually took content out of the game and locked it behind a gambling mechanic.
Unfortunately that will not make NetEase enough 💰💰💰💰💰
no one going to play this game if they make it buy to play
@@potatopc9205 Then you have to put up with some sort of monetization. They are a business, that presumably wants to generate revenue.
@@Paelmoon how many buy to play game become successful??? is not all about if the game have the price i will worth it the answers is no there's a lot of games that free to play but still successful for example warframe cosmetics is the one gib the developers money in that game they just need to remove that gotcha thing and make it pure cosmetics pay . this game need more fix 1st main reason why players quit at cbt cuz its lag not optimize , memory leaks and lots of bugs and only have 1 region server
i think this game has a lot of potential but with a game like this it is very easy to fail. they need to make sure that there is enough content to keep people playing for 100+ hours and have seasonal content releases or you gotta add new content regularly.
also they really need to rework and balance the resources. its so annoying to have to farm charcoal, acid, and glass for hours.
Exactly, when you grind for hours and hours you ask yourself, does this make any sense? Everyone knows the answer.
I agree with you on the statement that there are improvements needed to keep the PVE players attention and i hope that by the time once human gets its full release the end game content will be there
even weeks ago, I would run around and everything is empty. My server was on low population with 400 players queue (which makes no sense because after waiting for almost 1 hour everytime I assume 'omg the server is gonna be stack if there is atleast 400 waiting to join' but no lol. ) no one around any POI or even in big settlements ... I looked up multiple server and its the same. Even when it said Medium population, I would go to the teleportation tower to switch 'zone' and all of them were at Low... I just assumed they lie about the population or it doesnt work at all. It's so depressing to run around for hours and see maximum 5-10 players. The chat is pure trash and there is no one to do the season bosses. My server did not even complete the first season quest of killing the boss 200 or 300 times. This means, EVERY other season quest will be IMPOSSIBLE to fufill if you can't fufill the easiest. Not to mention that this type of game, the longer the server is up, the less people are going to be in it and NO NEW PLAYER will ever join because of the PVP aspect.
They had to stop people from joining the beta even though the game is dead.
It's a fun game only if people are willing to play it sadly.
Yeah, it was honestly super depressing streaming the game and playing it for hours yesterday and not running into anyone at all pretty much the whole time 😔. If it wasn't for the fact I had some awesome people in my stream and we were chatting it up I would have stopped after 15 mins or so lol. And you're right, games like this need players that want to play the game and interact with each other, and that's just not happening that much anymore.
The lack of other people honestly didn’t bother me. I liked not running into hoardes of other players - it felt more realistic to the world. ( you still occasionally encounter someone). This was as opposed to when I logged in the very first time and there were houses EVERYWHERE. I hate that. New World had this where there were camps everywhere.
But now that I think about it, I get what you guys mean. Also, the way servers work, if you come in late or can’t get a new server, it’s a bit wonky for new players. You almost need to be able to spin up your own private servers to play with friends.
My mind always just goes to valheim. Just make it operate that way. But if they have it free to play, thier thinking and how to make money is distorting the games system - in a bad way it seems. Hmmmm.
One of my major three complaints:
1. No Servers for the EU. I live in Germany and having a ping of over 100 is not fun in the long play.
2. It gets repepetive relative fast. After the second, hence even after the first Zone. The Gameplay loop is mostly the same. It is fun... but only for so much. Minecraft for example, hast loops that breathes new things into it. For example: In the beginning, you get yourself some wood with your Hands, then with stone, then with Iron. But after that, you can enchant your equipment like your axe. You can get "ambushed" by Illagers(?) out of nowhere, etc.
3. The Gacha problematic. It will be F2P of my knowledge... and I hate that. I would like to spent 35-40 Dollars for that Game, but not wanting to add one or two zeroes to it. Almost every single F2P game, ist P2W. There are exeptions, but they are rare. I can't think of an F2P game in the Asian region, that is not P2W.
So yeah. Everything else. When they remove most of the bugs, smooth the animations, new graphics, performance, etc. It would be a good game, because it is Fun.
But not, when they add more Gacha mechanics or letting this "Wish Machine" in the Game. haha
Edit: if they are focus PvP too much... hell nah.
Your complaint about the servers doesn't make much sense at the moment. The game is in BETA and therefore only has a server in North America. Obviously when it officially launches there will be servers in all four corners of the world. I'm from South America and I have about 120ms of ping, but for PVE content I didn't have any problems, and in PVP I managed well.
What time of day are you playing, what time zone? It was also Christmas most people were doing family stuff yesterday until the evening. I think it's Beta so people aren't as dedicated to it, they should merge but I don't think they know how to with the buildings. They opened so many at launch because everyone came from Day Before. I'm on G world 2 and there's usually an event when I open the map, Im lower level so I am still exploring the map.
Yeah, I got to the end, grinded, built my base up, got decent weapons/gear but there was nothing to do in the last zone.... it was just farming for mats to keep my bass from rotting and getting bullets.... game def has potential and is on the right track, just needs to be polished and more incentives for PvE scenerios... maybe even shrink the world a bit
the gacha system will kill the game slowly. i'd rather grind it out in the open world to farm for guaranteed blueprints than farming echo stones and possibly die from other players and just lose your gacha at the end of the day
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I had just got to the point of where I need better gear and here I am grinding to get starchrom. Thanks for clearing up what I am doing lmao.
Rather wait at this point. Feels like no end result worth grinding.
You're welcome and thank you for for the comment! Yeah, sadly the Starchrom grind is real atm 😅. Unless you have a dedicated Hive to grind those out together it's a drag. Hopefully they will put blueprints back into the game itself instead of locking them behind a slot machine and give players more PVE content to progress with before the game is release.
PvE players need a reason to team up, so put the blueprints from the wish machine into the harder tiers of the bosses, and have higher tiers. cant just be bullet sponges though, include new mechanics etc, so the PvE players have to team up to get the blueprints.
Keep the shop for cosmetics, fashion, skins for vehicles/weapons. Look at Destiny / Halo. can still spend money, but its not Pay2Win. I hated the Wish Machine,
I do play a lot solo, but would like to team up more. I have made a few friends teaming up for bosses, but its easier to just join a current chat request than ask friends because they may be doing different things.
People create their own single person hives just to increase their base building limits eg power production. Hives need to work better as a community tool.
I played it for almost 6 hours, & I didn't find any other player on the SERVER. The next day I played it on another SERVER where a friend was, so I had to make another character, but shortly after that I got banned on that server for no reason; supposedly, these random bans are due to a bug caused by payments that other players make on premium accounts.
The public event thing reminded me of destiny 2 on release, there was nothing to do end game on release but go around to public events, which the main loot was material that didnt have a use yet, lol.
If this is really true, it's really sad, the game has so much potential. Maybe, someone can leak the server files and make a private server that people actually play if they really do intent to make this game p2w.
They dont intend to make it p2w. and the game is in a closed beta. CLOSED BETA. meaning the game isnt even CLOSE to release- and people speak like its a released MMO; players will and will not exist in closed betas. the private server your asking about is the ONE we have.
@@sieykes That's the problem in all honesty, so far most gaming companies always say ''We do not intend to make it p2w'' and yet in the end they will in some sort of way. I really hope you are right however.
bro is pressed @@sieykes
i had so much fun until level 45 and found the world to be smaller than i thought with the north zone not having that much to it. I'll play on release for a few weeks and prob drop it.
there are a lot of player in the newer servers but I get your point, I also reach the "endgame" but it seems lacking, and yeah the slot machine is a bummer, MAYBE if the points where farmable but you have a limited amount and its all quest that not every player is interested in, there are A LOT of weapons me and my friends want to try but they are lock behind that machine and is awful, a few times now a friend has commented "I wander if there is a better [insert weapon type here]" just to check an see they are obtained in the slot machine and not in a city or quest, I still have hope in the game but I admit its just wishful thinking
It is one big red flag. But the points are farmable but it's just slow
@@hoopla5502 they are obtainable not farmable, there is a limit on how much you can get per "season" and also the slot machine has "draws" that can run out.
if they replaced that with energy (that is farmable) it wouldn't be THAT bad but we'll see
@David.-.Garcia I mean can you not kill elites to get cortex's and then refine them into starchrom , I get it's not a good system but that is farmable .The draws are limited which is bad, but saying you cannot farm starchrom is false
@@hoopla5502 oh sorry I didn't know it gave starchrom, for some reason I thought it was to farm acid or stardust source lol
@David.-.Garcia nah acid is the refinery spots you can find at points of interest, those put you in pvp when you do it. The refinery just starts a wave based attack at your base. Save em up it's nowhere near ideal but you can get starchrom from them
I started playing a week ago for the first time. There were players… yesterday… I saw 1 person. We friended each other.
There aren’t enough players! I have a feeling this game won’t be around in 6 months.
Sad. I love building and designing homes. I like the combat and a lot of the game mechanics.
Just a shame…
Wait so before this beta you got BPs from killing bosses? That actually pisses me off so much. Gocha systems are seriously so toxic as soon as I seen the wish machine i was already rubbed the wrong way. And i can already see the P2W its going to turn into. And on release if it does end up P2W i will not give it my time.
In terms of gameplay loop and open world stuff, this world is absolutely massive i mean we have access to 1/16 of it. How many other bosses will there be? Will the level cap stay at 50? Will server size be big enough to make it feel alive? I have so many questions on what they plan on doing.
Yep. They used to be attainable just by playing the game. That is until the Dev's decided to take content out of the game and lock it behind a slot machine.
And that's the sad part about all this. The game does have some really good bones to build on. If the Dev's decide to actually try to made a solid, fun, and engaging game they could have a banger for sure. But that's if they decide to avoid the greed and lazy game design of resorting to P2W tactics.
Yeah it’s really weird honestly, even in the update video you did for me, I hadn’t known that blueprints were drops originally… that at least would make sense, this new “season” metric is boring, I finished the last boss and I have nothing to do so I’m just building and farming to raise my Hive’s rank..
They really need to go back to a drops based metric as this gacha crap isn’t it.
+ how “reinforced” and basic buildings barely make a noticeable difference between level 15 enemies. I have loads of echos to purify… and nothing to do with them as it’s entirely pointless honestly… I’m mass grinding bronze pickaxes to sell just so I can reset my skill tree and remove all my points into the reinforced stuff.
Yea I'm not feeling the gacha machine honestly. It could be a good game but I keep reminding myself netease is involved
starchrom is hard to gain after you finish the journey and there is a weely limit to the base defend purification. After these, the only way to get starchrom only come from echo defend while it forces PVP and so rare.
Yeah it sucks, I couldn’t even try really any of the cool builds I dreamt up cos of starchrom issue. Shame, cos the game def interested me at first
People leaving the game because we can't do bosses/labs with other people on different servers imo. There's no cross server play currently so people can't help each other out because there will be 2 people on one server that wants to do it, and another 2 people on 2 different servers but they can't join together. They also need to make the mystery chest give 1-2 blueprints after the initial so that people will still go into the strongholds etc
Eh, I think putting BPs in Mystery chest might be a tad too easy but I agree there needs to be reasons for people to get out into the open world. My suggestion would be to have Public Events reward random BPs so players actually want to do them. Maybe put some harder world bosses that can be found roaming some of the more open areas that players could cooperate together to take down.
I play on Stardust A World 2 and i actually come across some players here and there. Coming and leaving towns, lower levels looting around and occasionally people asking for people to LEA...
Dunno a thing about any other servers tbh and yes, its not like when we have to wait a 10k queue just only to join... But i guess once people reach level 50 and try LEA and don't get much progress there they just left?
About public events i always see a Dakini one up somewhere... A few hours ago even spawned on top of me lol
I play on Stardust A world 2 and after streaming for 4 hours yesterday we never saw anyone at all in the open world lol. Maybe one time we saw a player, but I think that was in a hubtown. And I think there might have been one time when someone was looking for a boss and was saying anything using ingame chat.
And it's not just people hitting lvl 50 then leaving, even on the newer servers players are starting to resort to asking around in Discord because they can't find anyone ingame. As for Dakini that might as well not even exist since almost no one bothers with it. I just now checked our servers status on how its doing in the seasonal challange and it showed a whole 23 people have done Dakini and only 20 have cleared LEA. And since Stardust A was one of the first servers that does not look great at all.
@@trandel_elent Just checked the season phase to see just what you said... Kinda sad tbh didn't though the server is actually this empty :/
@@ShyMun Yeah, I totally agree. Again, I played the shit out of this game and made tons of content. I don't hate the game or want it to fail at all. But you can't fix problems if you ignore them and don't say anything about them. And I'm afraid that if the game keeps going down it's current path it's going to fail. Sure it'll get tons of players in its first few weeks because it'll be the new shiny game in town. But what about the weeks and months after that?
Hi, me and my friend also play on stardust A world 2 and we both already hit 50 and we barely see anyone and the first time dakini arrived we only saw 5-6 players in that event
@@Keanu-LeeOmarCAlawi Yeah, at least you have a friend to play with lol. A lot of players aren't quite as lucky 😕. As for the Dakini event that's actually a good turnout 😂. I've never seen anyone there any of the times I have tried it. And if you check out the pictures I posted earlier all of this is starting to show up in the fact that Stardust A wasn't even able to complete some of the recent Seasonal tasks for the server. And I'm hearing the same thing from players in many of the other servers as well.
Recently a streamer had live hosting a dev. He said there will be BP's in the dungeon. Also there will be purely cosmetics in the dhop, as well as in the battle pass. As for the Starch, he said that they are open to anything and will listen what community wants.
Also they will work on raid system and better way if grouping players and also want to make cross server aviable as well. And revamp the AI cause they are kinda retarded as they are right now ( his words xd)
1 season will last 6 weeks with a reset wiping everything. Then implementing new weapons, new enemies with different abilities, etc.
Also cosmetics u buy would be shared across ur account not tied to ur chatacter, and there will be pets in the game.
Now I don't want to end up looking like im coping I really wish for game to succeed and I'm being a bit more lenient since its betta and they seem pretty open about everything and pushig bugfixses everything other day.
I still tend to keep low expectations honestly cause lots of games kinda shoot themselves in the knee already so im trying to stay neutral and just wait and see.
Already had tons of fun in the game, but as it stands now the endgame content is nonexistent at best.
I saw that stream and I really do hope that is the case. I really do enjoy large parts of the game, or I wouldn't have made all the video I have or poured hundreds of hours into playing it 🤣😅. I think it has tons of promise, but as I have said before I have to be upfront with my community when I see something that is going sideways or could be a issue in the future. I really do hope they put blueprints back into the game because that was a huge mistake and provide more PVE content for sure. As for the P2W what matters is what they actually release, not what the promise. As much as I want to take them at their work the game is being published by NetEase and they have their reputation for a reason. Anyways, thanks for dropping by!
I started playing this game last Friday and have spent over 20 hours of game play. I have only seen 4 players in all that time. I'm very disappointed at the fact that they wipe everything after just 6 weeks and you have to start over again.
I play ESO all the time and that's my go to game. I've played it for three years and I love it. This game is just one big disappointment. I may leave it after the season finishes.
@@ParanormalGirl5 Yeah, the closed beta's before the last one the game was so different compared to what it is now. It's really sad they made the changes they did at the last minute.
Lol I love ESO too. That and Guild Wars 2 are the few games I keep going back to over the years. I've thought about making content for ESO from time to time but wasn't sure if anyone would be interested 😂.
I think they are still testing. And hold alot of content from the Beta. Also alot of PVE player already stop playing due to not trying to be spoilt by going too deep. Atleast for me, casual PVE player, I just hit lvl14 and already thinking want to stop and play when the game is release.
But yah I do feel the blueprints at the machine is annoying. But I think they won't be going down that route. Cause seem like China already in progress to have strict rules on monetization and gacha element.
Also i dont think people are taking into account is this game is going to have seasons .. meaning it wont always be the same game play , also a rather largwe portion of the map isnt even accesable right now
@@brandonholt-little3305 true, the season journey actually is a quite interesting mechanic.
People need to understand, Division 2 is the KING
Welp back to the front where grinding and leveling is REWARDING!
The public events is just not rewarding at all, we get controller and small amount of materials, which leads to PVE players to just not do the public events. Every time I go to public events I end up doing the lower level tiers to just solo it. Because no one can solo those lvl50 public events and the rewards are not just simply not it.
1. It would be better to have like artifact box where we can get blueprints.
2. More rewarding awards, like Acids and materials that are simply hard to farm.
Totally agree. They need to give players a reason to interact with each other and get out into the Open World. Right now there really aren't any reasons to do that.
Personally, I enjoyed the game, but why I stopped playing is this:
1. No Europe Servers.
2. Did not want to play way too much into it, being a BETA I did not want to spend too much time into it, knowing that the progress is wiped. I also want to be excited for when the game releases, and I want to have a bit of mystery about the content that is there.
3. No friends to play PvE or to play together. Had just 1 who entered like 2-3 hours in a weekend. Had to rush him to complete the PvE content while I was farming gathering making side missions while he was away.
But ye, I think is hard to get players to play together in your team, especially after the start of the game. I even offered to wait for people with the elevator on the level 10 mission, there were 2 players around there, no one joined.
So not the most social experience.
4. Lack of zonal PvE Events
5. Gacha Blueprint Machine
Once human is like Cookie Clicker: upgrade to earn more money. In Once Human, it's about gear, weapons, the Energy Link and the in game currency in general. That being said, even though the game has some surprises here and there that are quite entertaining, all the layers of the game are the same.
Once Human shares similar issues with the old game Firefall, developed by Red 5 Studios. Even though the game faced declining player numbers due to several factors, players were outraged due to the in-game betting system introduced. This system made me quit the game entirely. Additionally, Firefall was simply a victim of its own ambition, trying to be too many things at once and failing to find its own unique niche in the crowded online market. It seems like once human is taking the same path.
What I'm curious about is how microtransactions will be implemented and if it will be linked to the in game currency and the slot machine. There are so many warning signs pointing in the same direction regarding potential 'pay-to-win' issues and how in-game currencies will be rewarded, achieved, and used.
Time will tell, i guess...
i used to love playing firefall and i also like playing once human cause it's like it a bit but yea i think the foundation is there but they need to improve what they have a bit and as you say eliminate bs rng, a lot of other looter shooters do this aswell cause nobody likes their progression being locked too hard on rng ( i also play destiny so i should know this)
@@ipunchedu8884 They need to eliminate the identical layers. I'm currently at level 36 and about to confront boss number 4. So far, the path and overall experience leading up to each boss have been identical-literally 100% the same. It involves finding a specific x numbers of items in settlements, opening the 2 arch reactors, and then defeating the boss. This pattern also extends to gear and weapons. You search for particular items to upgrade gear and weapon tiers, and this pattern repeats with every boss you defeat. Exploring the world yields the same results: identical buildings, layout, enemies, berries, and animals. The only aspect that keeps me engaged at this stage is constructing houses and relocating them across different zones on the map, hoping that the three players on my server will purchase something from my vending machine.
Let's hope there will be some new innovations to this game upon its release, because at it's core it's a really good game for sure.
You are right.. i play this game for almost a week solo. I got to the end game and i dont know what else to do... Farming the currency is really slow. I hope they let us farm bosses to get fragments or events.
They went to grind Acid and never came back
Lol most likely. That's pretty much the one of the only reasons to be out in the Open World once you're done with the Mystery chest. And that grind is also one of the reasons why PVE players are being turned off by the game too 😞.
I got in on the 17th and the world was flooded with people playing and in chat 3 days later i dont see anyone cant even find a group to do the boss fights so i just got to the point where i was overleveled and just do them myself. Thats my biggest complaint it just seems empty of players
And even at public events your lucky to not be doing it solo
Exactly man nobody to even talk to with man
Yeah, MMOs need PVE players to survive and thrive. And there just is not enough content and too many red flags that are driving PVE players away. Without them you don't have people that want to chat and make friends, or find others to play the game with and you end up with what we're starting to see now, a big empty world.
Im on stardust Q tons of people on there. Most bases ive came across have active people. But they should probaly slow down on opening new servers. Ive also hear their are 4000 people limit on a server not sure if that is true. But ya hope this game gets better.
Yeah, they just dropped thousands upon thousands of codes since Christmas 😂. I don't doubt that there could be tons of people running around now. The real question is how many of those people will be sticking around after a few days, a week, two weeks.
There were tons of people playing the game on the first day of the beta when I started too. There were massive queue timers and everything. But that didn't last very long. In less than a week if that the queue timers were pretty much gone and in probably less than two weeks people were starting to run into issues finding anyone out in the open world. Barely 3 weeks out and you had players on the Discord channel trying to find groups and servers failing seasonal tasks.
I honestly don't know what the Dev's goals are at this point, but if they don't figure out how to retain players for more than a few weeks this game isn't going to see much long-term growth at all.
Oh wait, you say a slot machine that may drop goodies? You do know the origin country of this game right? They are slot machine addicts. Plus and I'm not sure of this but there are security issues with your personal data when you sign up to this game. It's all there on the Steam forums.
they need to make public crisis event have schedule that ppl can look into it,instead off blindly guess and open a map all the time
They need to make Public Events worth doing at all. The current rewards are not worth the time or effort to do them currently.
Slot machine mechanic wont change. Gotta remember 1 its netease. And 2 this game will also be for mobile. Land of the whales/cash cows. They wont not add somethiing for the mobile players to blow their money on.
Yea I’m prob done after level 40 u don’t level I can’t find meme points and it takes 3 days to level once…shame
Well, it is a beta. Hopefully there's a ton more content planned for 1.0
Hopefully. There's some really solid foundations to build off of, so I hope the Dev's take the time between now and release to do just that. Hopefully they won't make the same mistake that New World did and wait till the last second to realize they're going down the wrong path and then try to correct the course.
@@trandel_elent as a new world player myself i am a bit worried about what their plans are for each season
South of Overlook Town collecting saltwater :)
It cost to much to make a adrenaline shot. So I just logged out and uninstalled. Too much grinding for me.
maybe the devs will listen if not they go broke
add back in social interaction take note everquest success in this area
Yeah I fail off… I still luv the game tho… I just burnt out.
I'm fairly new to the game and I see a lot of people in the lvl 1-10 strongholds fairly often. Outside of that yeah its dead.
Oh yeah, don't doubt that one bit especially since they just dropped thousands of activation keys over the past few days 😂. But as you mentioned, how many of these new players are going to actually stick around past the first two zones is what's going to matter.
There is no player only grinder only
Can it be because it's the hollidays and people want o be with their families??????
Except for the fact it's not just today. These servers have been going into low pop status since about after the first week of the beta being started and it's only gotten worse from there. We've seen it from the server status page at login and we've been seeing more and more people trying to find groups in the OH Discord for well over a week now because they're not seeing anyone at all in the game.
It lacks endgame content, plain and simple, grinding quests for coint to roll the gacha is not an endgame interesting enough as far as I see , this game is awesome, but it has the same problems as V rising, the journey itself is impressive, but it reaches an end (and only PVP is not a viable endgame option, it needs PVE aswell since a lot of ppl dislike PVP)
Then you have to be constantly creating new content - the usual MMO problem. This game isn't an MMO. They call it that, but it isn't. It's like the division, or Valheim.
@@Paelmoon or do season content like destiny 2, and many live services, or just accept that it will be a game where ppl will come, play, finish it and go away, it can be an mmo, it can not be a mmo, you can even call it bananas for all we care, the problem is still the same.
atm it looks like they are gearing up for a pay to win game :( i will spend money buying the game but i WILL NOT play a pay to win game as much as i love this game.
It's definitely a possibility. NetEase is the company that Blizzard teamed up with for Diablo Immortal and we all know what a huge P2W scam that turned out to be.
ya it sucks but im still having fun
its because the weapons sux the missions you asking me to do requires much powerful weapons the punishment you get from soloing base defence while you r melting some relics for the starchromes the gacha machine the known future of the game being from f2p to gacha money grab game so everyone cautiously playing this game I hope they change gacha mechanics and the freaking blueprints its just must be optinable from boss fights as before I'm sick of all the gacha games all over the world this must change why they don't listen they have life time to rework there game and multiplayer aspect of the game and hives/warbands the limited power generators and deviations so you only have to have only one running deviation nothing more and better that one that requires no power supplies that one that gives wings the butterfly daTs It
Playing for junk parts are lame. Give me items in the world. Not blueprints
Gasha system.. yeah don't like it.. nice video!
Thing is it’s already a f2p so you have to make your money through the wish machine the thing we are lacking is content in general if they add a skill leveling for crafting, fishing, combat things like that it’ll give more people a grind even a grand exchange where people can sell acid, wood, and stone they just need to add more reasons to play every f2p needs a way to make money though
No they don't need to resort to a gambling mechanic to make money at all. Path of Exile has been completely F2P since day one and they have just grown and the games gotten bigger year after year for a decade now. Gacha gambling mechanic are nothing more than greed and laziness in game design.
few example just cosmetic F2P game, Poe,LoL,Dota,Fortnite,Apex,CS,Valorant,Naraka[by netease] game still have small ray of hope.
@@entaer Yeppers. There are plenty of games that have used the F2P model without resorting to greed that have done great.
i told everyone this gonna be a gacha game with p2w mechanics 🤣🤣🤣
I try to give every game a fair shake. Bias works both way. But after hundreds of hours played I sadly have to agree that does look like where it's heading unless the Dev's make some pretty big changes.
No lie . Kinda boring. I wanna be able to find weapons and armor in the wild while grinding. I never see other players
The game overall declines once you reached mid to end game. Base building is fun, however you are limited by space, and amount of items you can have built in the base. Gear is horrendous. It feels like you would have a steady incline to buildcrafting, however thats a lie. The game gives you the illusion to progression, but once you hit the final region they unlock. Your progression is put to a halt completely. Leveling weapons is an absolute grindfest to do more damage, and most set bonuses and weapons became obsolete. A Tier 5 weapon you want to reach from calibration +7 to +8 is around 435 stardust. That is an insane amount. Many of you would say thats not alot, but when you put it into perspective of needing to upgrade everything in your arsenal, its an insane amount to farm. You only get a limited amount of controllers to farm dungeons and silos. Once you used up your controllers, you need to do dailies to get less than a handful of controllers. Your bounties are capped too, so you cannot farm it consistently. The endgame is about a never ending farm for Acid, and a never ending grind for Stardust. It is absurd, and dont think about putting upgrades into armor, this game have enemies that are literal aimbots with projectile based attacks. You WILL take alot of damage regardless how much health you have, bosses can oneshot you, so tanking is impossible and not suggested. With the release of LEA dungeon and the Dakini event, the AI are overly tuned and the devs are so out of touch with the community and what is considered reasonable grind and straight up annoying. Sure you can argue that content are meant to be played with friends. Except that means you need to grind and farm for double the amount of materials, and that takes up even more time to even begin doing endgame content. On top of that the game have the tendency to bug out horribly when played with a team. Me and my friend repeatedly have a dungeon where the bosses and enemies health are twice if not tripled in health for no reason and that is only when we play together. We know the health increased because we noticed the damage we are doing are so different in difference instances of the run. Its too buggy to play with friends and its too hard and overtuned to play solo. There needs to be a balance, and also the very VERY lack of reward without controllers. I ran a hard mode silo and with a controller the boss drops 99 stardust, without controller is only 22. That is absurd.
Netease