Behind Movie Town Port of Spain
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2024
- Have you ever wondered what is behind the MovieTowne complex in Mucurapo Port of Spain? The area behind the Port of Spain Trinidad Movie Towne complex was originally mudflats and a large mangrove swamp. There is a link below where you can see what they previously looked like. A lot of land development work has been taking place on this seaside property adjacent to the Audrey Jeffers Highway in west Port of Spain. In this video we look at what is happening next to the sea.
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Pointboy.
You are quite right about the backfilling of the Mucurapo wetlands. Everyone has forgotten that where Movietown is located used to be mangrove wetlands, so that land reclamation beginning even before Movietown was on a grand scale as shown by the video. The place where the Port Authority park imported vehicles used to be called Spectrum.
I do not need to explain the function of mangroves. But our administrations have a track record of destroying the environment. Years ago, under one, over 600 acres of Petrotrin's virgin forest land at Vessigny was bulldozed to make way for industrial installations. Residents were seeing all sorts of wild animals, birds and other creatures running wild (no pun intended) because their habitats were destroyed forever ! There was destruction of mangroves at Pranz Gardens, Claxton Bay also. Most of our population were not aware, and lots do not care.
If ever you are going to Tobago by the inter-island ferry, look at the mountains overlooking the North Coast. You will see getaway villas here and there, poking through the greenery of the Northern Range. Who sold land in the Northern Range ? Who gave permission for an access road to be cut from the North Coast road into the mountain ?
Reasons why the big shots are cutting more and more into the Northern Range and when floods occur officials would blame ITCZs and El Nino !
As it is, I edited my previous comment, as someone got offended. I am politically neutral.
Please click on the link below:
ua-cam.com/video/XAi3VTSdTxU/v-deo.html
Why is every discussion on issues in Trinidad seized as an opportunity to inject poison? score political points for the party not in power? Is it because of an absence of real love and patriotism? Ambition without love is a hell (literally) of a thing.
You are correct that people have forgotten that the Port Car Park and Movietowne were once mangrove.
I care. But I'm one of the many silent ones😢😢
And Crews Inn too. There used to be a wildlife habitat too
@@allysonashby5201 Not everyone will be vocal about every issue. There is room in the world for silent ones.
Back in the sixties when I was going to Fatima, that whole area, both sides of the river was all wilderness, wetlands and mangrove with lots of little crabs scurrying around. But it had one big attraction: plenty dounce trees laden with fruit. Thanks for the update on all the new development in the area.
Well the Downs trees definitely gone, even in the remaining areas of wetland in that area.
We keep losing our tradition/heritage, even down to our local fruits, but you can get apple, pears, grapes all year round.. go figga..!!!
Derek Chin only looking to make money.... slowly losing our rich greenery... what a bunch of yuck😮
@@_Miss_K_ This is not a Derek Chin project but a Government project.
@@_Miss_K_ that’s the purpose of doing business. To make money. More businesses more job opportunities for a growing economy and for citizens! Government cannot create all the jobs. It’s the job for the private sector!
Thank you for revealing the activity that is taking place back there. Be safe and have someone look out for you at all times.
It was my pleasure
Nice to see developments taking place of world class
The EMA would have had to give permission for any landfill.
If they did, the freedoms of information act would compel them to show the approval upon request.
All detail about the landfill with names would be available.
Your comment prompted me to check the UDECOTT web site and they have it listed on their web site as one of their projects. They also indicate the type of development they envisage for the area and the extent.
It is listed as Invaders Bay Development. There is also a description of the project.
@@roddyspicer Correct
You know better than most that the Chairman of the EMA was a former PNM candidate for St. Joseph.
The EMA is not an independent body. The staff is powerless in the midst of this atrocity.
@@roddyspicer that name is ironic
That is lots of land there. That place had a barrier of trees in case of bad weather etc. Its Not Worth The Price Of Progress. Thanks Brother For The View.
You are correct about the role that mangrove trees play in reducing the impact of bad weather from the sea.
Looks like another west moorings in the pipe line.
@dominiquetardieu9594 It will be a combination of Westmoorings and Movietowne. Residential, Commercial and Entertainment.
This is heart breaking to see
Had me on a nice little adventure here. Thanks for this journey!
You are welcome
They have been saying that for over 40 years now to no avail.
One day the Sea will come back and claim their own!
It may
With global warming it might be sooner than we think.
As per usual. But at the same time once it is packed properly it’ll take longer than usual
As long as they do what needs to be done, it will be fine.
Backfilling the ocean front worldwide is a very common, very straightforward, very simple process.
It's basically permanent once maintained.
@@keystone6162 Thank you for the very informed comment.
Every time I'm leaving movie towne POS I always tell myself one of these days I'll take a drive/walk to see what's going on in the back there.. thanks for this😂
You are welcome.
You always go where inquiring minds want to see…Always the first to bring us up to speed on new places or activities. Thank you!
You are welcome.
Thanks for letting us know. 🎉❤
Our pleasure!
Hmmm, I am looking at this and I have quite a few thoughts in my head... Some are not good. Thanks for your video and the information provided herein.
You are welcome.
You and me both 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾critical thinkers we are 🤔
Thank you so much for sharing. Very very nice and interesting.
You are welcome.
Interesting journey. Thanks for sharing.
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Is only one thing they'll be building round deh, and that is luxury accommodation, etc..!!
I expect there will be some of that along with various entertainment business.
@@pointboy12 marinas,hotels, and a new mall
Wrong
Thanks point boy for showing us this footage didn't think behind movie town was the ocean close by.Thanks to Lasagna Baptists for highlighting it in one of his videos I came looking for it.Great vlog as usual.
You are welcome.
Six years ago, I visited the back there, it was not that wide. They apparently reclaimed more land.
They have.
Thank you for the information 🙏
You are welcome.
That's the 1 per cent taking over Trinidad
Actually No. This is a Government project being done by UDECOTT.
@@pointboy12I’m glad you corrected Anthony and nothing is wrong with development if planned properly. Not everything is politics and nepotism.
@@madridfan2007 that is true
Mr. Chen is a Chinese from Guyana. He has nothing to do with 1 porcent.
Thank you! I’ve always wondered
You are welcome
Well informative 👏
Glad you think so!
Water clean and nice.
Yes it is.
Nice paved roads while some areas on the island filled with potholes. And you say high tides for fishing, or nice area for late night fishing/speed boats etc with quick drop offs of Gs & Ds.🤔🤔🤔 money talks!
If people wanted to use that area for high speed drop offs they would have done it when the area was mangrove so nobody could see them, not when the area has been cleared so everybody could see who in the back there.
Thank you!!!
You are welcome
The scope of wildlife in T&T is shrinking rapidly because of bad planning and greed, soon there will be more concrete than greens, but what they don't realize is that nature always win in the end.
Yes over the very long term nature wins.
We might have to do our own little part in re-wilding the environment. Mossyearth and Leave Curious on UA-cam show how they are working in different countries to do so.
@@TriniMonstera Re-wilding is a great way to go, but the four biggest problems when comes to wildlife in T&T is that
(1) greedy developers will stop at nothing to fulfill their thirst for greed;
(2) there are some people who are not educated enough about the importance of those wild animals and bees and other valuable insects and the environment around them.
(3) that some people just do not care about the wildlife
(4) not enough strong enforcement or laws with real teeth for the rules on hunting and environmental care.
I remember seeing deer running in T&T (Santa Cruz) back in the 70s that gone, they held someone in South with 35+ agouti in his freezer, the scarlet ibis is being targeted and eaten...it seems like even though there is a hunting season, people hunt year round, Our rivers are becoming dry rivers. it is nonstop raping of the land in T&T, and nobody really cares..
To re-wild Trinidad and Tobago, they first have to make strong laws followed by no-nonsense enforcement and they would need at least a 5 year ban on hunting. But we can only dream :)
I work n one of the tall buildings on Wrightson road. From there you could see it is a massive project. I asked the same question you asked, didn't the government say "no"?
I have now learnt that it's the Government that is doing the project through Udecott.
Well done 😊
Thank you
Reminds me of the changes that took place at the Western Main Road and Diego Martin Junction. Now Westmoorings Mall. Back then there was the Fatima sea scout boat house that was our start point to row from Cocorite to Monos Island to camp in 1962-63. What were we thinking???We left with three sea scout row boats and came back together. Yes ...Justice Stanley John was part of that experience. Thanks for the memories...rowing past future MovieTowne
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when mother nature decide to take back what is hers, the wetlands that was there for a reason, as the saying goes " those who don't hear does feel"
When that occurs it will affect everything from Sea Lots to Westmoorings as that entire coast was originally mangrove.
Heartbreaking indeed!!
That's why woodbrook and st James does flood so bad
Some people believe so.
Wow!
LOL thanks very much for your video.
You are welcome.
Winds of Change bro! Money talks... Natural Environment suffers!
I am not sure who is responsible for filling the land, however I believe it is Government using UDECOTT.
That's why we have an EMA and not an EPA...We are allowed to pay to pollute
Thanks for highlighting. So sad that birds are no longer there.
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They're in caroni River
Remember going on a tour with tourists board when I liked away
Good all-days
Hopefully the 💧 don't flood back
Up.
As that take years to happen.
For water 💧 to take back land
As I am older now.
Just like downtown POS
South Q. Where the bus 🚌 terminal is
What happened whenever 🌧 rain
Falls it floods there
Now 😢
@@sipvypkbj103 it will be interesting to see the drainage plans for this area.
Enjoyed the video. But this land reclamation was done years ago and the govt is now developing it ,However the public consultation for its development required by the ema act has not taken place as far as I am aware.
what! they developing land and loosing the nature. right now i am lost because everything looks so different.
THANKS A LOT
Yes they have started
Losing not loosing
@madridfan2007 ok, sometimes texting gives typos
Wow. Just today I saw the road and wondered what they were doing back there. I wonder if they got a certificate of environmental clearance for such an eco sensitive area.
I would assume so as Udecott is doing the work.
Old video of site done years ago should be shown alongside. Great documentary though ✅
Thank you. It would have been nice to add old photos if I had them.
Thanks pointboy
You are welcome
So much under develop land in the country they couldn't find anywhere else the greedy rich business people and the government don't care about anything except money I wonder how many of them would take their wealth with them when they die , this really upset me I think the EMA is responsible to
The loss of habitat probably destroyed the wildlife that the birds relied on for food.
That would be part of it but I think also the constant trucks filling the area would have driven them away.
A nice mixture of entertainment, hotels restaurants and multipurpose buildings. Extension of the city.would be nice. To boost tourism!
I believe that was the plan when Derek Chin wanted to get permission to develop the land. I do not know what Government intends for this area.
@@pointboy12 . We are each other worst enemies. The fight down when it comes to development in this country. Is why we haven’t been able to properly develop our country.
@@brownsugar2271 Yes any development provokes strong emotions.
@@brownsugar2271 there can be development without the need for destruction. A lot of nations have found a way to balance both without complete destruction of one. But, it requires proper thought processes, which apparently we are in short supply of down here 😒
Back when they first started development, the area of Woodbrook started flooding, and now it will be worse.
It would be interesting to find out if any bodies were ever found in there. Years ago there was an old homeless woman who use to travel in the taxi with me most mornings and sit in POS all day. On evenings she would travel back and could be seen walking into that area and I have not seen her for years. I always felt like she might have died in there.
Never heard of any bodies in that area.
dude u sound tiger he's a trini singer from the 60's he has a lot of hits .. great vid by the way
Thanks for the compliment on the video and voice. I did not know about a singer called Tiger in the 1960. I do know there was a calypsonian called Growling Tiger but I think he was before 1960.
@@pointboy12 he was called young tiger he sang a song chicken and rice ...plz look him up on youtube ...the name will sound funny it its a hit and he also went abroad to do jazz which made he above a lot of local artist
@@pointboy12 sry about that but he was called young tiger, he sang a song chicken and rice , listening to it now I thought he was u becz u both sound the same artistically and intellectually too , he also left trinidad and did songs in the Uk which gave him a big name above other trini artist .. look him up on youtube... young tiger (chicken and rice)
Nicee i look forward to it i think since Patrick manning days he had plans to partner with Derick chin to make invaders bay amazing for the public....Hope it comes into fruition one dah
I also hope that whatever is developed there is something that everyone can enjoy.
they bring all the land when the come on the ships. they own it they put it there
I suspect they're gonna buildup a place like BOAT QUAYin Singapore, with the view of the water and huts with music and culinary from around the world. Ah jus feel so ! Worked for a short while in Singapore
That was the plan when the private developer wanted to do the project. However with Government I do not know what they intend.
Was there not plans to expand a entertainment area called streets of the world? There you get a taste of every country in one spot ...
@@thevideoof8795 That was Derek Chin's plan but it was not approved. Instead Government has been doing the reclamation.
@@pointboy12 what's is reclamation? So what will they build there ?
@@thevideoof8795 Reclamation is basically filling swampy area with soil to make it solid land.
It is for Steeets of the World. Chin recently announced he was going ahead with the project
No. That is a concept that Chin had but this is now a Udecott project.
maybe a good place for a condos to be built.
If they built them those persons would have lovely views.
That is why Woodbrook will have more flooding because there is no place for the water to run off and be absorbed ,😢
Nice place for sandals to come and set up
@@anandsankar697 They wouldn't choose there because they want somewhere with sandy beaches.
I remember seeing a video a few years ago, that Mr. Chin was making a "park" with all sorts of atttactions; haven't heard or seen anything since about it and I thought maybe it was all in my " imagination" or a dream.
So maybe this is it.
Mr Chin has created the park, it is at the side of Movietowne next to Marriott. The cleared land is a different parcel.
what do u suggest would be the best times for high tide?
The timing of High Tide changes every day.
I was told it's UDECOTT.
I am not sure how true that is
Yes it is Udecott
THIS IS CRAAAAZY!! ALL THT WORK QUEITLY DONE????😮😮😮
I believe that whole area was reclaimed land fill even before movie town was built. They now paved access road, probally prepping for who knows what.
Where the port is located was reclaimed land but this portion was mangrove originally.
@@pointboy12 yes it was mangrove before they destroyed the mangrove and filled that entire area. I was working flour mills at the time.
Reclaim land. Unnatural. Beware of earthquake after completion
I do not think that earthquake is a risk but they have to ensure the land is properly compacted and settled to avoid sinkage.
What is earthquake liquefaction?
Liquefaction takes place when loosely packed, water-logged sediments at or near the ground surface lose their strength in response to strong ground shaking. Liquefaction occurring beneath buildings and other structures can cause major damage during earthquakes.
@@senhouses Yes you are correct about the possibility of liquefaction.
thanksaa
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Yes yes. The foreshore highway was not always there. Neither was the national stadium and Jean pierre complex. All on reclaimed land. They are clear on the plans, was in the newspapers hence the road being open
You are correct.
Who knew? Pointboy, you are a great teacher, local historian, ,faithful custodian of the culture, a national treasure. The commenter, brownsugar, has put it perfectly. Love your work on the history of "Sando".
Thank you. I have some other historical themed videos planned for this year. Most likely they will be in August.
@@pointboy12 Please take your time : editing these videos requires a great deal of time and effort. Here, trying to be considerate even as I salivate. Peace, love, and may you be safe.
It is on UA-cam, yes! The narrator/reporter begun in the middle of nowhere with his story. No one understands what and where he is talking about.
@@Theresa-kd5im Review the video and listen then you'll know where this project is located.
That is a lot of devastation
Yes it is a very large area that has bee back filled.
@@pointboy12 hmmm
This has been taking place over 2 years but people never noticed.
Exactly, future devastation for sure. I swear sometimes the powers that be forgets Trinidad is an island and not a huge country.
@@annieromany3493 agreed
Wow!! That's a lot of reclaimed land! At the expense of marsh and mangrove?? Hmmm ... 😮 You're lucky nobody stopped you?🤔
When i was going I wondered if someone would stop me, however there was no one present to raise any objection.
Enjoy this video sea breath taking thats a lot of of land
Mean time wild life suffers 😂 thanks
There use to have mangrove to protect the coastline.
Yes mangrove does protect the land in times of storms.
@@pointboy12 not only in times of storms but also from erosion.
@@saffirasamaroo5963 Correct
i wished they had used some of that land to extend the port, its getting very cramped and the tobago ferry terminal is getting worse everytime i see it .
I agree, putting the ferry service there would be a good idea.
The port is to be relocated offshore the land from invaders Bay to the Hyatt will be reserved for mixed use, multistory housing, commercial, entertainment, administrative and hotel purposes.
@pointboy12 the ferry is to be relocated there as per last strategic plan, along with a marina.
@@dalehinds I did not realize they planned to go offshore with the port.
@@dalehinds I saw that they planned to put a marina there but didn't know they planned to put the ferry port there.
Was there a road when you were visited last time?
No paved road. There was a dirt road on the side alongside the Maraval River which flows thru the western edge of this land.
That is a huge area, I guess time will reveal what happens next
Absolutely correct.
Taxes in millions
I feel another residential area like Westmoorings coming to fruition, … ‘quietly!’
MANGROVES are so, so very important for our fragile eco-system! Here we are, destroying it all for what?!?!🥲🥲🥲🇹🇹
UDECOTT has said that residential is part of the plan.
This is unbelievable that this could continue to take place...l am asking what happens to the sea front? Who will inherit the sea front...ls it going to be the people of Trinidad and Tobago? Or the developers who are claiming this property?
What was the argument in place for this? As l remember our first prime minister said the sea front and beaches belongs to the people of Trinidad and Tobago...l am asking again is that still so?
I have subsequently learned that this is a Government project being done by Udecott.
@@pointboy12 Thanks much for your response...but as usual a government that does not informed us of what is going on... everything is a big secret.
I am just as curious,so I will want to see all there is to see.
I think we are all waiting.
Take a drive/walk in Aranguez South all the way to the swamp borders. The story tells itself.
I will go one day to see.
Is that land reclaimed from the sea?
No it is not reclaimed land but it has been back filled.
I remember that place long before Movie town came into existence..... the ocean. Wait a minute, they going to damage the natural wildlife again?😮😮😮😮😮
It is allready done.
Strange How ALL The Media So Very Quiet Re. This Development...Who Or Which Company Doing This...?! *Hope It's My 1- 5% Buddies...!* 😂😅
It is being done by UDECOTT and they have been filling for 2 years.
Same thing they did to create westmoorings. And you can see mangrove saplings already growing on the water’s edge, as will always happen in that area. When the foreshore was built, there was no mangrove on the seaward side except at the river mouth, now the mangrove stretches half was down the highway and even grows on the landward side.
Predict a new housing development coming there soon.
Thank you for adding to the discussion and reminding that the Foreshore and Westmoorings were also reclaimed land. I have subsequently learned that this is a Udecott project.
@@pointboy12 Of course, that's not to say that I agree with what they are doing. It seems that every time that the mangrove stabilizes, someone comes and moves the coastline further out.
Wonder what the EMA has to say about this? Guess money talks and average citizens suffer the consequences of the effects. Not excluding the wildlife. What's the purpose of teaching the inportane of the mangrove in schools etc when you allow it to be destroy for financial gains. Smh
Agree with you !
I fish there for years but haven't bin there for a while with this video hope people don't flood the place to fish and leave it stink
Yes that is a problem in Trinidad. When you show something, plenty people go and leave their rubbish.
That was a wet land and swamp area with birds and some animals. Its state lands. Which Gov't division authorised its backfilling, clearing and to whose bnefit.
You have asked a question that I cannot answer.
You are correct i's is Derek Chin's mega project - MovieTowne's Derek Chin to open T&T to the world see article in today's Trinidad Guardian June 27, 2024 - 80 acres of land
Will have to try and get a copy.
More space for hurricane to pass through with nothing to stop it. I guess they are probably creating a Trinidad Miami.The question is , who or what will be occupying those spaces. God come down and save us.🙏🕊✝️🥳
That is an interesting question. I believe a variety of businesses will want to operate there.
Fair to say I have never wondered what is behind movietowne nor do I care lol
That is fair enough.
Price of progress I will say
That is what some will say.
The EMA is really incapable of making any moral decision on behalf of the mangrove and its nurseries breeding young fish, crustaceans and birds.
The Chairman of the EMA was once the PNM candidate for St.Joseph
The poor EMA staff. How helpless they must feel.
Such a pity that bird habitat is no longer. The swap you mentioned and the trees all gone😢
It would have been nice if they kept a few more trees.
25 years ago we did a school project there on the scarlet ibis. Shame to see the unsustainable development of this last piece of wetland and fish breeding grounds.
The Amazon in "RIO" animated film much?
Shouldn't this be protected wetland...?
I would have thought so but apparently it is not.
It's reclaimed land, reclaimed for this purpose.
Sorry Google changed Lasana name.
There is a big sing out front we're it states what development is taking place
I had not seen the sign but I have since gone on the UDECOTT web site where they outline the intentions for the area.
@@pointboy12whn the sea start to bc up thn whole of p.o.s will drown wht already happening thy doing wht thy wnt
protection of animals habitat they should put
It's 70 acres of land in the back there
No the Contruction Association Body took the Government to Court and won over Chin allegedly acquiring the said site. But obviously something MI6ish going on. Thats the problem with Trinidad and Tobago no equity. Back in the Day people had problems with Munro's soca village location as an example then bam NMovietowne appears and these people owe taxes which the working class have no choice in paying
At the time I made the video I did not know but I have since researched and it is UDECOTT who is doing the filling.
@@pointboy12 great video but we will see what happens there and who is included as the CEO UDECOTT ????
@@user-ov2rn6vd7i Thank you and yes in time we will all see.
With risingsea levels it will be back to marshland and sea soon again
Hopefully !
That is a current risk with all seaside properties.
The pitch on the road looks thin like 1.5” lol
I have no idea
That's called progress. But is it really
Well there are varying points of view.
I have a feeling that more than fish might be coming in.😂
That is a possibility for anywhere near the sea in Trinidad.