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- Does India need long-range Air to Air missiles like the Russian R 37 & American AIM 174?
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I think many people are still missing a point when discussing these ultra long range missiles i.e radars. F18 from which AIM 174 was tested simply does not have radar capabilities to guide this missile for even 200+ kilometers. In order to deploy these kind of ultra long range missiles you need electronically integrated combat systems like Aegis which the American navy uses. You will need forward deployed stealth fighters like F-35 to relay guidance and tracking data to the missile. In a combat scenario F18 will be used just as missile carriers and will be fired from standoff ranges so their maneuverability is largely irrelevant. After that it becomes the job of forward deployed assets like F-35 or EA 18 Growlers to guide the missile to the target. We simply do not have this kind of capabilities as far as I know. We first need to develop systems like Aegis which is a monumentally difficult task for us as our military hardware is extremely diverse. Even if somehow we magically get ultra long range missiles, we wont be able to properly use them to their fullest abilities without integrated combat systems.
Tbh stealth & range combine, first hit first win .
Good point. People wrongly equate bvr capability with range of missile truck radar. Once missile is released either ground, air or satellite guidance can control its flight.
We have awacs😂 to guide them
@@Sinner85 will we have awacs always ready to respond.
Note O ur Sukhois have typically very high RCS . To counter against this big disadvantage and to maintain first sight first hit probability we have to have very long range RADARS and very long range missiles . insertion point at end
Abhi airforce ko kuch nhi pta hoga....jab koi conflict hoga tab inko yaad ayega..ki hme iski jarurat hai...
Note O ur Sukhois have typically very high RCS . To counter against this big disadvantage and to maintain first sight first hit probability we have to have very long range RADARS and very long range missiles . insertion point at end
The short answer is, yes; absolutely!!!
That's a su27 cockpit 2:18 in DCS 🔥
actually chinese made long range pakistani PL-15 missile ko dekhte huye hamare india ko bhi 400 km long range ki R-37 missile ki behad zaroorat hai, actually ye kehna bilkul galat hai ke long range missiles behad bhari hain, ab hamari Su 30MKI aur Tejas mein lagi air launched Brahmos missile ka wajan 2650 kg hai tou air to air long range missile R-37 missile ka wajan mehaj 510 kg hai.😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
These long range missiles are only effective with AWACS in large numbers. Bharat needs to buy Embraer so platforms like AWACS can be purchased in large numbers. This is what the PLAAF and USAF already did!
Understanging is With SEBEX 2, our existing missiles weight can be reduced & range be increased with equivalent fuel in place of reduced weight
Good information sir
Kya hame sahi me jarurat long range missile ki ye sochne ki bat h dosto
Note O ur Sukhois have typically very high RCS . To counter against this big disadvantage and to maintain first sight first hit probability we have to have very long range RADARS and very long range missiles . insertion point at end
@@shaktimaan1064 Bhai sarcasm me bol rha tha dhruv raate ka copy kr rha tha
Any update about Hjt 36? 20 years of an IJT is frustrating. I know, its development has been delayed due to initial design flaws but then why did HAL experiment with design? They could have kept design similar to Suryakiran. L39 albatross and Yak 130 look so good and are cheap but even after all changes, HJT 36 design looks bad.
India is incapable of making world class equipment.
It's made in India
India can't win war with two squadron of Rafael. Tejes is not a substitute of Rafael or F 15. Learn from Ukraine war : second biggest armed forces could not dominant due to low quality aircraft and missiles.
Go for Western origin weapons. Proven technology.
Jai Hind
Bro they still don't use their 10 Percent air power
What about your so called America invasion of talbian 😂😂😂😂 . Western wepon 😂
I think India should go for PL 15😂
I agree mostly. But you have also look at the cost.
Yes of course India already have this type of missile which is known as Astra MK3 the problem is its testing and production should be gear up
Astra mk-3 upadte ??
Note O ur Sukhois have typically very high RCS . To counter against this big disadvantage and to maintain first sight first hit probability we have to have very long range RADARS and very long range missiles . insertion point at end
India need everything
Indian airforce abhi 😴 rhi hai
Phle koe 27 feb 2019 ka inzaar hai phir kuch sochhte hai
Astra mk2 150km+range ?
Astra mk3 250km range ?
sorry abhi to 😴 💤 s😴
jai hind
Ok
World ki best A2A missile Pakistani PL-15 hai Jis ki range infinite hai,😅
Jitna man chahe bada lo 160, 200 , 300 , 400km sab ne apne man se iski range khud hi set ki hui hai 😅😅😅😅
Baki Chinese PL-15 ki range 145km hai unhone to zuhai airshow me world ke samne public kar di thi,
Par Bharat pak ke mahan defence exfart manne ko teyar hi nhi hai, kahte hai wo to china ka propaganda tha 😅
@@UnknownGunman10 export range is 145 km. Export variant has always decreased range. But arguing with pakistan means..... 😂
@@Vartik-jr4qr then why PL-12 export version name is SD-10 not PL-12E,
E means export ! just a UA-camrs theory
Wo galat nhi thy ye kuch logon ny Pl-15 or Pl-21 ko mix kr diya jb Ye khabar saminey ayi k China aik missle py kam kr rha ha jis ki range 400km ho gi tu kuch hi arsey bad jb Pl 15 aya tu analyst ny ye smja k yahi sayad wohi missle ha jis ki range 400km ha lkn us waqt bi kucj log keh rhy thy k ye Pl 15 ha wo PL 21 ho ga lkn Indians ny hi khud hi hype create ki k 400km range ha or Pl-15e version ki 145km ha or real mei thori zaida hi ho gi kiun k hamesha military waly apni cheez ko thora kam dikhatey ye aik military strategy hoti ha or Jo China k pass Pl 15 ha us ki range 180km fighter jets k liye ha or agr koi awas ho tu 250km tk bi target kr skta.
@@muhammadzakriya1761 😁😁😂😂😂 isliye to kah raha hu ki PL-15 ki range infinite hai, ab dekho tumne apne man se iski range 250km set kar li 😁😂😁 aur bada le koi rok nhi hai
@@UnknownGunman10 Infinity nhi mei ny bola jo American analyst sochtey wo bta rha
Sdfr is joint venture between Russian and Bharat
Exactly
Why deleted 1st one
It has monitization issue, it will be made public, once it is sorted
@@DefenceMatrix U missed Israeli Rafael defense made SKY STING long range BVRAAM.
Can u make a dedicated vid on it and it's prospect in IAF incase Europe denies Meteor integration😊
pakistan ke jf17 mein instal long range air to air missile ki wajha se beshaq bharat ko bi long range air to air missiles ki zaroorat hain, pakistan ko hasil chnese pl-15 ko counter karne ko bharat ke liye 400 km range ki russian r-37 hi ek sahi option hai......russia ne bharat ko bhi r-37 missile ki offer ki thi jisse bharat ne inkar kar diya tha, problem thi ke r-37 siraf Su 30MKI mein hi lagai ja sakti hai.🤨🤨🤨🤨🤨
Chalo ye bhi sukar hai ki tilashmi missile PL-15 saste tayare par sirf chapti dharti par hi lagi hai 😅😅😅 kyuki real earth par to aaj tak kisi ne integrate hue dekha nhi hai
Note O ur Sukhois have typically very high RCS . To counter against this big disadvantage and to maintain first sight first hit probability we have to have very long range RADARS and very long range missiles . insertion point at end
Kisko kya Kab acanak zarrorat pad Jaye kisi ko nahi pata hoti hain. Just like satellite images during kargil war.
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हमारी महान विश्व विजेता IAF को क्या जरूरत..😂
अगर जरूरत होता तो आधे दशक पहले ब्रह्मोस द्वारा दिया गया प्रस्ताव IAF कब का स्वीकार कर चुका होता..चीन जब तक IAF के 1-2 नेत्र ना गिराए IAF का नींद नही खुलेगा जैसे अभिनंदन प्रकरण के बाद हड़ बड़ में BWR,SDR लिया गया
😂😂😂 su-57 is heavy fighter
600 kg is nothing for it
So don't miss guide
Mitior not use any war to vo missile pepper me hi behatar hai even Europe mai bhi frnace ko chodke har country aim 120 jada use karti hai same question qura pe bhi uske answer hi dekh leta
It is a disaster video seriously. First of all do not call r37 as jugaad like aim 174. AIM-174 is a surface to air missile converted to air to air only for jugaad. It is 850kg and 3 mach capable missile and USA has made it for drones and tactical missiles only. While russian R37-M is a 500kg mach 6 hypersonic air to air missile which is quite maneuvereble. And it's 400km is for cruise glide profile(AWACS and missile interception) 300km is for direct shot for jets with high G manueveres. And astra mk3 is also india-russia joint venture which could be based on russian R37. So sir please for god sake end the american bias and at least appreciate R37 success. It got the biggest range air hit 217km distance on Ukraine su27 most probably by su57. Aim-174 is jugaad but R37 is not.
Channel owner is literally american fanboy. He literally try to compare trash can jugaad aim 174 with real hypersonic r37 missile which has seen quite a success in Ukraine.
And some people's comments get automatically deleted too.
Exactly. See how he made video on what india can learn by american aim120 missile. Like man those are obsolete missile today. France has 200km meteor, russia has 400km r37 and india is making 350km astra 3 with Russia, but this genius owner has to make video on what we can learn from american 1980 era aim120 with only 160km range🤣
@@Abhinandan-c9s fanboy is a bit too far BUT it is hard to disagree I don't know why he is like that good channel but small issue
Okay, lets understand it. R-37 is a derivative of R-33 missiles, developed for MiG 25s, for long range interception of American long range bombers. They were never made for fighter aircraft interception. The derivative R-37 is more capable in long ranges due to better electronics. The missile is not as manuverable as you are saying it is. Yes it has some success in Ukraine, but you have to keep in mind, how many of them were fired to have one kill. The actual hardkill numbers is pretty low, but the missile was able to force the enemy to go defensive and leave the mission.
That's why they are not widely used even in RuAF. Only recently being integrated to Su 35 and still not integrated to Su 30SM. Not even exported properly even after being available for export
Now coming to SFDR, no it is not a derivative of R-37 and No India is not developing it with Russia only for the Ramjet engine assistance has been taken
har missile ke pro and cons hoty han...meteor ko Europe ke lea banaya gya ha jo mostly land area ha....meteor agar oxygen air le lati ha tu high altitude pe tu oxygen wase hi kam hoti ha...i think karachi or Arabian sea pe meteor deadly misslie ho gi but Loc jesa region ma PL15 ko edge ho ga
to PL 15 ka weight to dekho, waise bhi LAC pe normal fighter jets ko manuver karna tough hota hai to heavy missiles ke sath operational capability loose hogi.
Missile aircraft ki tarha subsonic speed par fly nhi karti , 3 mach par airflow bahut high hota hai to sufficient oxygen milti hai hai
Oxygen ka level 7000 m Tak same hota hai. 7000 m ke bad woh Kam hone lagta hai. Isilye normal cases me pl-15 ko koi advantage nahi hoga
@@shivamkumar3362 bro agar pl15 ka weight 220kg ha tu meteor bhi 190kg ki missile ha so etna farak nai pare ga
@@max2008abhi bro agar pak ind yah china india ke beech air fight hwi tu wo kashmir region ma ho gi waha yah combat 15500m ki height pe ho ga and waha pl15 ko edge ho ga
Missile power of iran
Very long range bvr missiles
Answer is YES
But then VLR BVR missiles have their own issues , esp the idea of guidance ( normally such missiles will be used by 4.5 gen fighter which will use a guidance from a forward 5th gen aircraft which will provide guidance to the system)
Su 30 mki can be a bomb/missile truck with amca flying ahead tracking the target and sharing the data via data links.
Most of these vlr bvr missiles will not be used against fighters because the KP at such ranges against agile targets will be very low (even for sdfr/TR systems let alone older solid booster or a dpp system)
But these can provide a valuable addition which helps keep enemy force multopliers out of the fight or limit their use in contested airspace
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